Topic: Why does an account get autobanned? (Read 406 times)

The information that a forum account has been autobanned should be changed if you ask me. I am surprised that we don't see more topics in Meta with members asking why was this account automatically banned or why did a bot ban member X. "Auto" and "automatic" suggests that it wasn't done by a person, but in some automated way. Only if you are here long enough or you make some basic research, you will find out that each ban is issued manually by a real human being after investigating if a permanent ban is the best course of action or not.   

Actually, Dr. Osh is the registered and copyrighted name of Dr Osh Cosmeceuticals London is a premium skincare line in its purest form, containing natural and active ingredients. Note the copyright symbol in the picture. So, this name is protected by copyright law. Well, I'm just saying

This could also be a complete coincidence and nothing more. Besides I have seen someone mention that the legendary Dr.Osh has never appeared in this forum for about 1.8 months. This means that he is not a regular name and would not likely be imposted by anyone.

Assuming the username was like Welshe, LoyceVe etc we could easily assume it is a clear attempt for imposter.
If the OP can buy your idea of applying for a name change it will be fine.

Just some thoughts, if you wanted to keep two accounts as separate identities, you probably don't want to name them something similar, as that puts eyes on you, and starts the allegations. So, while it might be a reverse psychology attempt, it's probably better to just never have that attention on you in the first place.

So, while the usernames are similar that doesn't automatically mean they're linked, and we can't accuse users of that just because their usernames are similar. Well, technically almost identical. However, I'm not sure if that name is known for something? Maybe a character from a show or something? Since, admittedly the chances of having identical usernames is rather low, although a quick search doesn't yield anything. I guess what I'm trying to say is your assumptions might actually be right, and good instinct, but it's probably best we cover all angles first since without knowing all the context, and why they do have similar names we can't jump the gun, and just come to a conclusion based on gut feeling. Something that non admins likely don't have; in terms of context, especially considering the age of the accounts.

Although, that's besides the point. Dr.Osh i.e the Legendary account isn't banned, and therefore it's not like it would be ban evasion in the first place. The only thing that could be going on is a user posing as another user which obviously would be bannable. However, I imagine one of the users probably more likely the newer of the two could request a username change if the situation is deemed non malicious, and basically done unknowingly, since it probably will cause confusion in the long run. I'd have thought theymos would see that as a valid reason. I think there might have even been a case of this before, although I might be wrong on that.

The real question is whether this was an attempt to pose as the other user, which I guess would be hard to tell. Since no public attempts seem to have been made. The only way would potentially be through personal messages, but they'd have to be reported to know that. I guess the admins can take all the information provided, and work it out themselves as they have a little more information to work on. We're all working on an assumption here which probably isn't the best idea. Obviously, it's a good idea to bring this to attention though for all parties.

Usually, users that are looking to pose as others tend to make their moves privately rather than publicly. I've had a quick check over Dr.Osh's (legendary) posts, and they don't appear to be offering any services, that could be easily exploited this way; at least by threads created.

The above is my thought pattern when seeing things like this, and it's usually why I don't act upon any reports that don't have conclusive evidence, since I think it's better that the higher ups if you will, take a look at it instead.

Good question Let the global moderators or administrators decide. Because if he gets nuked by regular moderators, all of his posts will be deleted, including this thread. If you're interested in my personal opinion, I think this imposter is no different from other imposters banned on this forum.

That's why I'm telling everyone about this, but I don't know exactly if this is really intentional or not because in general the two accounts are very similar ^{[impersonate identity].}

Even if the OP wasn't trying to impersonate anyone else I really can't trust it as well as reason. I didn't try to tag it with anything, but maybe this would be a good option to prevent something the main account that has the same username would not expect.

I wonder what the next step, does the OP really have to be banned for this case?

I'm just wondering, how do you know that lovesmayfamilis is a DT member? 


So you claim that your choice of name, which happens to be the same as another member on the forum, is merely a coincidence? Well, I hope you can see how that can be a problem.

I have a lot of respect for DT 1 and DT 2 members. But you can't slander someone for no reason. .


Yes, if it was the same name then the forum would have reported that such a name already existed. But for the slight gap between these two names the account is created correctly. As you can see, I have no problem with that.

Lie again. Having created your nickname, the forum will definitely inform you that such a name already exists. That's why you fixed it and added a space. There is no need to invent anything; such coincidences cannot exist. You came to the forum with a purpose, and soon, I think, we will find it out. A newbie who is interested in the issue of a ban on the forum somehow does not look like a real newbie.
Do not consider yourself smarter; we have seen a lot of stories from scammers.

I understand your point. But when I created this account I didn't know that there is another account with this name on Bitcointalk forum. And if I had known then I would never have done this mistake.

The main user you're mean (Legendary) it seems like inactive for over 1.5 months since Oct 1st. Maybe he didn't know that a very similar account username was registered on 14/11/2022 and posted regularly for several days. But it seems 1 PM for Dr.Osh (Legendary) was enough to let him know.

Imposter, seems right. People would think it was the same person if they never paid attention to the rank of the two accounts.

 

In this case, your account is an imposter. Such accounts are created for the purpose of deceiving users or scamming supposedly in the name of the person whose account name the scammer is copying. Such accounts are usually subject to a ban on our forum.

Thanks DdmrDdmr and Xal0lex for explanation and clarity. It feels good to learn everyday here. Now I have know in details how things work about bans.


Can you inbox the main Dr. Osh with legendary rank to confirm it the newbie Dr. Osh is his alt, if not, the newbie account deserves a negative tag to make it more clear that he is not related to the former.

Not necessarily.

Here's an example, Satoshi's account has been technically banned from the forum (he can no longer log into it). I doubt any reasonable person would consider his account trash. Besides, even banned accounts can be reinstated.

I don't know if your answer is actually valid and credible but something coincidental like this is always a question mark. I can even assume you're impersonating another user even if you have [space] in your username.

Temporary ban or autobann are the same, you cannot post and send PM with banned accounts. But you can log in anytime to your account just to watch.

Two most common ban reasons are
- Plagiarism
- Ban evasion

Usually the first reason is plagiarism that causes ban on other alt accounts with ban evasion.

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Sorry buddy it's not my account. And I don't have multiple accounts.


According to him everything can be done except posting or pm with Auto banned account, in my opinion, if an account is banned, then it is not possible to do anything else with that account. That account becomes trash.

Here's what theymos says about it:


And here is a description of what kinds of bans are present on the forum and how they differ from each other:

I'm not verry sure about your confession, is this your main account or something happened by chance?

Profile Link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/drosh-561859

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You will get the right answer if the question is clear. I suspect the point of your question is about account being banned due to accusations of changing hands or whatever like this. Is that true?

If a user breaks the forum rules, they would get the punishment for the particular offence, which is also at the discretion of the admin or staff.
Some offences lead to a temporary ban, some to deleted posts, and some to a permanent or autoban.

AFAIK, it can only apply to newbie members who have an activity of below 30 points. This means that a newbie who has a high activity (30+), but not enough merits to rank up to Jr. Member cannot be nuked.

From my standpoint, I think OP actually wants to understand the possibility of one getting auto banned even after complying to certain rules and regulations of the forum.
However, as the name sounds, it seems it is more likely human moderation was ignored or warnings ignored that may have been sent, hence the reason for the auto ban of ones account. We usually get message inbox or response for wrong posted threads, out of point posts and other nuisance that can make the moderators of bitcoin dish out warnings before a ban follows. If several of such messages has been sent on more than one occasion without no regards to heed to correction, then the ban follows.

I am not sure what you are asking. Can you rephrase your question?
"He" was banned because he violated one or more forum rules. The real reason is known to the moderators.


Nuking a user is the same as banning them. The only difference is that, after a nuke, their posts are deleted as well. This usually only applies to newbie members.

It's same as been banned but in this case the whole post the user ever made in the Forum will be deleted making it a Brand New account.

It's mostly done to newbie account.

If there's no rules then there should be no purnishment, the forum here has rules and regulations that help put things into order and cordination, else people can't hesitate on changing the main motive if bitcointalk to another thing else, if you plagiarize, you will get banned or act in a way that's against the normal expectations of the he forum, but to stay safe from this, just take your time in reading the forum's rules and regulations and behave well then you're free of unnecessary fear of getting banned, noted this that behind every ban is a reason that led to the act.

DdmrDdmr buddy you say.


Now my question is, if he could not reveal the allegations of theft, why was he banned.

 
one more question what is Nuke user?

As far as I know, AutoBan is a permanent ban. The Modlog displays, amongst other things, banned accounts over the last 30 days. The type of bans listed are "Autoban user" and "Nuke user", both being permanent bans. Nuked also see all their posts deleted, but can only apply (I believe- not sure though) if Activity <30. An account that is Nukable may not be Nuked, but simply Autobanned. Temporary bans are not displayed in the Modlog.

As to why the name Autoban itself, it looks as if it originates in Automatic Ban (likely extended to manual ban), but who knows. I can tell you it is not related to a german highway though …


Not sure what you mean. In all likelihood, he was banned for plagiarism (after all, he was rightfully reported for it), although there is no public record where we can assert the exact reason.

Nuked: Permanent banned + all post deleted (account will revert to 0 Activity and 0 posts on its profile).

Yes your point is true but I don't see anywhere in the forum rules what causes autobanned.


I learned something new from your post. If it happens that there is no reason behind banning then how can we appeal. If I get the answer to this question, then the newbies will benefit a lot. It can be learned.


Thank you for presenting it so beautifully.

Let me leverage on this question and learn please. I have been seeing autoban especially when Lovesmayfamilis reports cheating or plagiarism accounts.

Permanent ban: Means the user is banned permanently and not supposed to return to the forum with another account. Though the user can appeal and get lucky in rare cases.

Temporary Ban: Means the user is banned for some days, weeks, months, years as the case maybe. The user will return to the forum after serving the ban punishment.

Signature Ban: Is allowing the user to use the forum but not using the Signature space.

What is AutoBan and how does it differ from Permanent ban?
Does it work as the name implies? Which means no moderator bans you. Maybe the ban is triggered automatically by the system codes? If no, why is it called Autoban?

the account was not automatically banned but was banned for receiving reports from trusted members on this forum for violations found on the account. usually it's because of plagiarism, you can see it in these 2 threads;

1] [Report] Ban Evasion [Requesting Admin/mod to check those and ban]

2] Report plagiarism (copy/paste) here. Mods: please give temp or permban as needed

The said banned account was likely reported for plagiarism, as can be seen here. He might have been banned due to the plagiarism shown in the prior link, or any other that was reported in a similar manner without being published on the "Report plagiarism (copy/paste) here. Mods: please give temp or permban as needed" thread.

The thing is, if anyone wants to bring information to view on a post, that is originated elsewhere, he should add a reference to it, thus avoiding plagiarism and having people thinking that it was his own set of words when, in fact, it was not.

It's normally plagiarism or ban evasion imo that leads to someone being autobanned. They can appeal the ban though too if they think there's no reason they should've been banned (but can only make one topic about it and it's the only topic they're allowed to make after being banned).

Autobans are given out by moderators too so it's sometimes possible to get an answer for why they were banned.

Going against the forum rules can lead to permaban, especially if someone plagiarized, spamming, or evade ban. We should carefully read, understand and not violate the rules, they are not hard to follow as long as you are posting appropriately.

I am new to bitcointalk forum. I don't know much about this forum. Meanwhile I am reading the rules of this forum. After that, while checking some posts, I saw a user who posts very well. His merit number is almost equal to activity. After that I noticed that his account was inactive for many days. After that I checked with bpip.org and found that his account was autobanned.
Check it out;
https://i.ibb.co/R3NYRrV/IMG-20221113-190822.jpg
https://bpip.org/Profile?id=3468810

My question is, if you do something wrong with the account, the account will be auto banned.

Those who know about this must inform me.