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Topic: Why doesn't bitcoin go up higher percentages like altcoins? (Read 714 times)

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The reason why Bitcoin does not see a higher percentage increase is that the value of Bitcoin has become more stable and it is not easy to be disturbed by giant whales. It is very easy to achieve a 50% increase in a day with a large number of altcoins. However, after a large number of altcoins are abandoned by the giant whale, the risks and benefits are at the same time. The higher the short-term benefits, the greater the risk. Therefore, the stability of btc will also make the risk of users who invest in btc become very small!
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The capitalization of Bitcoin is huge and it takes a lot of money to make it appreciate like altcoins. If we compare capitalization and trading volume, we will see a significant difference. If you want to double Bitcoin, it will take hundreds of billions of dollars to buy, but with altcoins, it will be easier.
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With some coins going up 50% or even l00% in a day or few days or in a week... any reason why bitcoin doesn't do that almost ever?  Look at binance coin and many of those other coins that are literally doubling in a week.  Now the btc dominance is going so low.  And even when btc goes up... you don't ever see it going up that much percent in a week.  I mean... its rare to see bitcoin say go up 50% in a week yet tons of altcoins do it.

The answer is very simple: such a big growth can have those altcoins that have low market cap and at one moment demand is much higher than supply. Talking about bitcoin, it already has a big number of holders and it doesn't have such sharp jumps in demand over supply. Moreover, when bitcoin grows too high, many traders open a short position which also puts pressure on the price.
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On the contrary, when Bitcoin fell, altcoins also fell more rapidly than Bitcoin. Compared to Bitcoin, investing in altcoins is a high-risk and high-yield investment choice. At the same time, investing in altcoins also needs to pay attention to the risks caused by insufficient decentralization, while investing in Bitcoin does not need to consider these issues.
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Bitcoin has a dominant position in the crypto market. Its trading volume and market value are high, and it is difficult to achieve a substantial price increase.
Altcoins generally have a low initial price, they will be easier to manipulate and the price increase will be high. However, the price of altcoins generally also changes with the price of Bitcoin.
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You can see the percentage of Bitcoin from the beginning to the present.
You see how much of the altcoins with relatively large gains are still alive.
If you want Bitcoin to increase more, then you can use more funds to trade Bitcoin.
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You are probably comparing Bitcoin to hype coins from some chain where more investors are only aiming for a short-term profit. They will shill the coin until they earn an incredible increase, and they will eventually plan for a safe exit.
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Altcoins increase from the lowest price at the beginning. When more people buy, they will increase the price according to demand, which will show a high upward trend.
The price of Bitcoin has risen a lot since its appearance, and now its price is very high and its market value is relatively large, it is difficult for this high-priced currency to show a big upward trend.
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Well, I would like to share my knowledge on this subject with you Smiley
Indeed, Bitcoin is mostly less than altcoin and I will tell you why!



Altcoins are more volatile than Bitcoin because some investors like to speculate on altcoins.

• It is easier for whales to "manipulate" the market because the marketcap of altcoins are so smaller compared to Bitcoin (of course what I said is relative, not all altcoins necessarily behave like this way.

• FOMO of investors, because they see altcoin values ​​skyrocket in a short time, and they don't want to be left out, so they buy a certain altcoin blindly to keep up with that valuation.

• Another example, it is easier for an altcoin to rise 25% in the last 24 hours than for Bitcoin to rise 25% in the same period. This discrepancy is related to value/marketcap.

• I'll give you an example that fits perfectly with the examples I said above.
In this year, January/2021, DOGE was worth ~$0.01 and it reached its ATH in May of this year, of approximately $0.71 (appreciation of ~7,000%) while Bitcoin in that same period, appreciated "only" 113%
Another interesting example that also illustrates this, is the Shiba Inu (SHIB), had a monstrous appreciation in that short space of time.

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With some coins going up 50% or even l00% in a day or few days or in a week... any reason why bitcoin doesn't do that almost ever?  Look at binance coin and many of those other coins that are literally doubling in a week.  Now the btc dominance is going so low.  And even when btc goes up... you don't ever see it going up that much percent in a week.  I mean... its rare to see bitcoin say go up 50% in a week yet tons of altcoins do it.
Yes, that is how it is supposed to be now. Bitcoin used to be like all those altcoins that you’re seeing, and going up more than 50% and 100% in a day, and that’s when it was still new and highly volatile. But, as it keeps growing, things starts to change. The more the market cap grows , the less volatile it becomes.

And the good thing about this is that anyone can hardly manipulate the price of Bitcoin, unlike other coins that can easily be pumped and dumped by whales. But for those people who are looking for 100% increase and more in a day, sorry you’re not going to be getting that.

Because Bitcoin is an old coin, the percentage increase is never as high as altcoins. As you have explained, Bitcoin was very volatile in the past,
but now since the price has been high, the movement of Bitcoin is much more stable. So if we want to get a big profit, most people prefer
a new project. But the risk is high too, because many are manipulated by whales. Therefore, a new project usually when the pump is high,
recovery takes a very long time. There are even some new projects that have become deadcoins, because after going up, they were dumped
and did not recover again.
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There are coins that have gone up by 400% in one day (Boom token) and they never went up again. It's because of artificial pumping by whales, they buy in bulk the shitcoins when they are at their lowest and sell by manipulating the market at higher prices.
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With bitcoin a 50% increase in a week is unlikely, because the transaction volume as well as the value of Bitcoin is too large, but a 50% decrease in a week is completely possible and has it happened before long.
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With some coins going up 50% or even l00% in a day or few days or in a week... any reason why bitcoin doesn't do that almost ever?  Look at binance coin and many of those other coins that are literally doubling in a week.  Now the btc dominance is going so low.  And even when btc goes up... you don't ever see it going up that much percent in a week.  I mean... its rare to see bitcoin say go up 50% in a week yet tons of altcoins do it.
Yes, that is how it is supposed to be now. Bitcoin used to be like all those altcoins that you’re seeing, and going up more than 50% and 100% in a day, and that’s when it was still new and highly volatile. But, as it keeps growing, things starts to change. The more the market cap grows , the less volatile it becomes.

And the good thing about this is that anyone can hardly manipulate the price of Bitcoin, unlike other coins that can easily be pumped and dumped by whales. But for those people who are looking for 100% increase and more in a day, sorry you’re not going to be getting that.
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The price of Bitcoin is higher, and the higher the price, it is difficult for the price to increase significantly.

No. Price has nothing to do with it. It's the total market cap.

You can have a cryptocurrency with only 1 coin worth a million USD and all trades are don on fractions of this one coin that are worth 0.1 USD or something. Would that mean that this coin is more stable than bitcoin because a single unit is worth more than bitcoin? Cheesy

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 The price of bitcoin is having a big movement but compared to other altcoins due to the volume it just feels like it doesn't have a lot of movement, With a trillion market cap of course it's gonna be difficult to move a high percentage of it like 50% pump or 50% dump.

You could easily notice the profit in some altcoins because the volume is low, so for example an altcoin that could 1$ each of your 1000$ could buy a thousand of this altcoin compared to bitcoin where that thousand dollars could only buy .0.026 bitcoin.

From 1$ price of altcoin it could easily pump up to like 10$ in a few million in its market cap, and with that's altcoins it's already an x10, compared to bitcoin where the price is moving from 30k$ up to 60k$ which is a lot of movement already but volume is low.
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If we calculate the percentage increase in the short term, the percentage increase in Bitcoin is not too significant compared to altcoins that are capable of tens to hundreds of percent in one day.
But look at the long term what percentage increase in bitcoin. This proves that bitcoin is more stable than altcoins. All altcoins are also based on the bitcoin price because all altcoins use BTC pairs.
Long-term investment in bitcoin will be more profitable, but it should be noted, that Bitcoin or altcoins both have a volatile price.
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With some coins going up 50% or even l00% in a day or few days or in a week... any reason why bitcoin doesn't do that almost ever?  Look at binance coin and many of those other coins that are literally doubling in a week.  Now the btc dominance is going so low.  And even when btc goes up... you don't ever see it going up that much percent in a week.  I mean... its rare to see bitcoin say go up 50% in a week yet tons of altcoins do it.
Well it’s not like we all don’t know that Bitcoin is able to hit that high and keep going. But things have changed this time around, Bitcoin is not like it used to be in the past years when it would go up by over 50% in a few days and also crash by 50% in a few days. That was when the market cap was very small and back then it can easily be manipulated by people, but things have changed this time around and you can’t manipulate the market so easily this time around.

The market is strong now and has a huge market cap, so it doesn’t fluctuate that much any longer. I don’t really see anything bad with that, if you can invest and have patience there are still times that it is going to reach that high. Just have patience.
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A very good question and I really like it. This was my question when I first entered the crypto market. I've been through value rallies and I'm very aware of Bitcoin's price rise.

The capitalization and volume of Bitcoin are huge, so for Bitcoin x2 worth in a week or a day, it takes a huge amount of money to maintain the value, to do that will take hundreds of billions of dollars. Obviously, such Bitcoin pumping wouldn't have been possible without some extremely good news accompanying it.

Altcoins have a lower capitalization and volume, so depending on the capitalization and volume, it is easy or difficult to pump money to make it increase in price. If we look at altcoins with a market cap of $1-100 million, their volatility is much greater than that of altcoins with a capitalization of over $1 billion.
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Bitcoin has a high market value, while other altcoins have a low value. A few percent increase in Bitcoin requires huge amounts of hundreds of millions of dollars or billions of dollars. But for altcoins, just a few million dollars or tens of millions of dollars makes altcoins grow by a few percent.
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Although cryptocurrency is not like other altcoins that will increase by 50%-100% a day, Bitcoin has gone from 7000 US dollars to 60 million US dollars in the past few years, which is probably the increase that other altcoins cannot achieve. btc can be held for a long time, But other altcoins can only obtain short-term profits and cannot hold it for a long time.
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The price of Bitcoin is higher, and the higher the price, it is difficult for the price to increase significantly.
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Because the market value of Bitcoin is much higher than that of altcoins, this is a very simple problem, and a mathematical method can solve it.
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Cryptocurrency has better security. Compared with traditional banknotes, cryptocurrency does not need to be carried around, so it will not be stolen; In the transnational business, there is no need for cumbersome procedures to exchange the currency of other countries.
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The answer is simple, that is because mostly altcoin doesn't worth as much as bitcoin, so increasing the price even 100% is quite easy if the value of that coin is still low or small. It will be harder for $10,000 coin to increase 100% than $10 coin right? That's why, even if bitcoin only increases for like 10%, but since the value of bitcoin is already high than the increase will be higher compared to other altcoin, even though that altcoin might increase 100%.
Other than that, it's cheaper to buy altcoin rather than bitcoin, so the price of altcoin will be more likely to increase higher, since many people will use it for trading too, not for long term investment.
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With some coins going up 50% or even l00% in a day or few days or in a week... any reason why bitcoin doesn't do that almost ever?  Look at binance coin and many of those other coins that are literally doubling in a week.  Now the btc dominance is going so low.  And even when btc goes up... you don't ever see it going up that much percent in a week.  I mean... its rare to see bitcoin say go up 50% in a week yet tons of altcoins do it.

Well duh!

It is easier for something small to double in size then it is for something big.  Btc is a crap investment these days as to double your money you would need to go from (at peak) $60K to $120K which is a hell of a jump.  That would mean a lot of investment and would probably take years.  Eth going form $1K to $2K or Doge going form $0.1 to $0.2 is much more managable. 
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You probably don't need a trillion dollars as the price we see does not reflect the money that actually was used to buy up those Bitcoins, but you certainly need a considerable amount to move the price or market cap by 50% or even a 100%.
Simple explanation to a noob question. In fact the people who put so much trust in altcoins should understand the moving the market for altcoins is way easier even for a mid-cap bagholder who is looking to dump their shitcoins on a bamboozled newbie because the newbie heard some news about that shitcoin. The point is in trading you need to do this research on your own and learn how the prices can be manipulated.

Invest in bitcoin because now the price has dropped. Dump shitcoins when they get high and dont look back at them. Altcoins are too easy to pump inorganically. Lets hope the OP has understood the point and will not make any such topics in future.
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To see bitcoin going up 100% in 24h someone needs to invest $1T on it... And that's really hard, the amount of money is just too big but is possible if a big company like Apple decides to spend 50% of their market cap on bitcoin.

I think only a government is capable to do a move like this. But it will not happen. What is possible is to see bitcoin going down 50% in 24h, and I feel like that will happen before the end of this year. Remember that bitcoin is a high-risk investment, so, big bumps and dumps are totally possible.

You probably don't need a trillion dollars as the price we see does not reflect the money that actually was used to buy up those Bitcoins, but you certainly need a considerable amount to move the price or market cap by 50% or even a 100%.
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To see bitcoin going up 100% in 24h someone needs to invest $1T on it... And that's really hard, the amount of money is just too big but is possible if a big company like Apple decides to spend 50% of their market cap on bitcoin.

I think only a government is capable to do a move like this. But it will not happen. What is possible is to see bitcoin going down 50% in 24h, and I feel like that will happen before the end of this year. Remember that bitcoin is a high-risk investment, so, big bumps and dumps are totally possible.
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Bitcoin and Altcoin markets are two different things so do not always put up comparison between those two. Also, the possible reason why Altcoins do pump exponentially on greater percentages compared to Bitcoin is that they are starting from the bottom price getting into an increase improving their prices and seems to be more possible to get pumped up compared to Bitcoin that have already attained greater heights compared to what it is few years ago or even even since it was created. Be just thankful that Bitcoin is still into rising but even it dumps, then it is a great opportunity to grab on.
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To make Bitcoin increase by a few percent requires an extremely large amount of a few hundred million dollars or a few billion dollars. But for altcoin, just a few million dollars or tens of millions of dollars have made an altcoin increase by tens of percent.
To evaluate the price increase factor need to look at the capitalization of cryptocurrencies and daily trading volume.
Cryptocurrencies rise in price through news or the completion of a price chart pattern. So it is very difficult to determine growth in each cryptocurrency.
The last time I saw Bitcoin grow strongly was about 10% in a day when Tesla announced it was buying Bitcoin in February of this year.
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With some coins going up 50% or even l00% in a day or few days or in a week... any reason why bitcoin doesn't do that almost ever?  Look at binance coin and many of those other coins that are literally doubling in a week.  Now the btc dominance is going so low.  And even when btc goes up... you don't ever see it going up that much percent in a week.  I mean... its rare to see bitcoin say go up 50% in a week yet tons of altcoins do it.
Altcoins you're talking about probably have low market capitalization. So it's way easier for them to be pumped and dumped, and thus they're more volatile. If Bitcoin goes up 50%, it means that there will be an additional $500 billion added to its market capitalization. This is just a crazy amount of money, so no wonder Bitcoin is way more stable. But Bitcoin did go up by 600% in one year, so I think it's still a very impressive performance. Altcoins can be better for fast profits, but it's also very easy to lose a lot with them. Bitcoin provides profits over a longer period of time, but the risks of its price going rapidly down are also lower than with altcoins.

Way easier to be pumped, but exactly as you say, also way easier to be dumped! That is the tricky part if buy low cap alt coins you can find yourself in a very unlucky spot if you don't sell in time or before the herd decides to sell. Low cap alt coins are fun to trade, no doubt, but risky as ***.
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With some coins going up 50% or even l00% in a day or few days or in a week... any reason why bitcoin doesn't do that almost ever?  Look at binance coin and many of those other coins that are literally doubling in a week.  Now the btc dominance is going so low.  And even when btc goes up... you don't ever see it going up that much percent in a week.  I mean... its rare to see bitcoin say go up 50% in a week yet tons of altcoins do it.


For altcoins there is often a price increase of up to 100% in a week but for Bitcoin it is not that easy to go up 100% in a week because the price of bitcoin is very expensive and buyers cannot afford to buy bitcoin if that happens. In general, Altcoins have very cheap prices so that buyers can buy them in very large quantities, so it's only natural that Altcoins can go up to 100%.
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The problem is that the cash flow into the bitcoin and altcoin markets is at different rates. Bitcoin has a huge market cap and if you want to increase the value of Bitcoin by 50% or 100%, it takes hundreds of billions of dollars to promote.
Take a look at the current value of Bitcoin and the acquisitions of large corporations over the past year. Bitcoin has Tesla, investment funds like Microstrategy, Ruschil, ..., big banks, Paypal ...
Altcoins have a lower market cap, lower transaction volume, so it will be easier to make them increase in price.
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With some coins going up 50% or even l00% in a day or few days or in a week... any reason why bitcoin doesn't do that almost ever?  Look at binance coin and many of those other coins that are literally doubling in a week.  Now the btc dominance is going so low.  And even when btc goes up... you don't ever see it going up that much percent in a week.  I mean... its rare to see bitcoin say go up 50% in a week yet tons of altcoins do it.

Look at the capitalization of Bitcoin and understand, that the greater the turnover, the harder it is to change the price of an asset. Bitcoin has a huge number of market makers. Of course, the young asset will move much stronger in percentage terms. Do not forget, that Bictoin has already done + 1500% starting from $ 3800. And this is a lot.
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Bitcoin and altcoins are really different currency, in terms of the value you can say that they have a big difference, how could you imagine a bitcoin to go up higher percentage up to 100% of its value is $55k, it will need $110k before it will have a 100% and that will not happen for only one day because it requires a huge amount of money unlike on some altcoin that has not too much value it can double or get high up 100%.
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With some coins going up 50% or even l00% in a day or few days or in a week... any reason why bitcoin doesn't do that almost ever?  Look at binance coin and many of those other coins that are literally doubling in a week.  Now the btc dominance is going so low.  And even when btc goes up... you don't ever see it going up that much percent in a week.  I mean... its rare to see bitcoin say go up 50% in a week yet tons of altcoins do it.
Think about the price of bitcoin compared to the price of altcoin. A percentage change is the relative measure not the absolute measure. A 5% change in bitcoin price means a huge amount compared to the 5% change in a shitcoin that costs 1$/shitcoin.

Just ask yourself the question - Would it cost your a higher amount to move the bitcoin market price by 1% or a shitcoin market price by 1%? How can you reach this answer? By first knowing what the market price of the shitcoin or Bitcoin is.

This is why Bitcoin price does not change in percentage value much over a day but altcoins may undergo pump and dump and show up with 400% changes over a few hours.
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With some coins going up 50% or even l00% in a day or few days or in a week... any reason why bitcoin doesn't do that almost ever?  Look at binance coin and many of those other coins that are literally doubling in a week.  Now the btc dominance is going so low.  And even when btc goes up... you don't ever see it going up that much percent in a week.  I mean... its rare to see bitcoin say go up 50% in a week yet tons of altcoins do it.

Well, simply because Altcoins has a lower market cap than Bitcoin making it more volatile hence, it is easier to be manipulated. Bitcoin could also give that rate of profit however, it will not be possible within a week not unlike some altcoins because it will take years for Bitcoin to have numbers. However, altcoins can be a double-edged sword in a way of it could give a huge profit multiplier within a single amount of time but they can dump at a huge rate as well. If you are into quick profits then I'd say Bitcoin was not the right option for you.
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I guess that's because bitcoin price is too high already, while other altcoins price are not as high as bitcoin yet. I mean, it'll be easier for $10 coin to reach 100% rather than $10.000 coin to increase 100% right? If bitcoin go even 50%, the price already skyrocketed too much, it's kinda scary since it might be too bubbly and burst. However, other altcoin doesn't have pri e as high as bitcoin so if their price increase, it won't be too big and bubbly too. Bitcoin can reach 100% in longer time, but will surely reach it, although in one day is a bit impossible to happen.
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With some coins going up 50% or even l00% in a day or few days or in a week... any reason why bitcoin doesn't do that almost ever?  Look at binance coin and many of those other coins that are literally doubling in a week.  Now the btc dominance is going so low.  And even when btc goes up... you don't ever see it going up that much percent in a week.  I mean... its rare to see bitcoin say go up 50% in a week yet tons of altcoins do it.

The amount of fiat infusion necessary for those kind of gains get harder as the price per coin rises.

Which is why, it will be easier for Doge to reach $10 than it is for BTC to reach $1 million.

IMO, both will get there, but Doge will get there faster.  Smiley

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its simply because of the market cap. the higher the price the harder if becomes for the price to have significant price increase because you will need a large funds like exact of the market cap to double the price compare to a coin that has barely a million market. thats why bitcoins move is gradual. thats why people say you grow your bitcoin holding by trading altcoins and coverting your profits to bitcoin.
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With some coins going up 50% or even l00% in a day or few days or in a week... any reason why bitcoin doesn't do that almost ever?  Look at binance coin and many of those other coins that are literally doubling in a week.  Now the btc dominance is going so low.  And even when btc goes up... you don't ever see it going up that much percent in a week.  I mean... its rare to see bitcoin say go up 50% in a week yet tons of altcoins do it.




So have you ever asked the question why Bitcoin never increased its high percentage as the Altcoin but still invested by people? And it still belongs to the top that the currency has the highest value that everyone wants to hold. That's the problem! It is because Bitcoin values are too large compared to other currencies, so they cannot be in a day or 1 week but doubled. Moreover Bitcoin brings big profits that is what everyone wants.
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With some coins going up 50% or even l00% in a day or few days or in a week... any reason why bitcoin doesn't do that almost ever?  Look at binance coin and many of those other coins that are literally doubling in a week.  Now the btc dominance is going so low.  And even when btc goes up... you don't ever see it going up that much percent in a week.  I mean... its rare to see bitcoin say go up 50% in a week yet tons of altcoins do it.




So basically you are asking that why altcoins grow 50-100% within few days whereas Bitcoin grow 10-12% comparitavely? Making comparison among Bitcoin and other altcoins in the market is not at all valid because of huge difference between them.

Bitcoin Price is trading above $55k at this time and market cap has already crossed $1 trillion and it's not at all easy to make huge retail investments in bitcoin due to high price range.The institutional investors and billionaires have deep pockets at this time to invest huge amounts in bitcoin which is the main reason for its slow growth.But still Bitcoin is top priority of investors in the market inspite of high transaction fees.

On the other hand all altcoins combined have market cap of $1 trillion and prices of altcoin like doge,Dot,ADA,ETH,LTC are much lower compared to btc and it is easy to invest huge funds in them and percentage growth in their value is usually higher.As it was the case with doge as people invested million dollars in Dogecoin because it was trading at $0.2 and they can afford to invest any amount in these coins.

So there are variation in Bitcoin and altcoin market which you need to understand properly and you will be have clarification of all your doubts.Bitcoin Will always remain king of cryptos.
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But bitcoin is always safer than altcoin in term of investment risk. My assumption is those altcoins which the prices are increase significantly are start to getting more mass adoption. I bought TRX few weeks ago when I tried to buy item in game, after knowing that this game is played by many people then probably they will always use this coin to buy item in that game and the result is the increasing price of it. So I bought more TRX as investment, and it works. I get profit more than 100% only in few weeks.
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With some coins going up 50% or even l00% in a day or few days or in a week... any reason why bitcoin doesn't do that almost ever?  Look at binance coin and many of those other coins that are literally doubling in a week.  Now the btc dominance is going so low.  And even when btc goes up... you don't ever see it going up that much percent in a week.  I mean... its rare to see bitcoin say go up 50% in a week yet tons of altcoins do it.




Seriously I see no reason why you should be so bothered about this rise in altcoin with the rate at which we saw bitcoin rise last year till this year, the rate is quite alarming and pleasing to see it rise to that level. Or maybe you are late to the club the rate at which you see those coin rise will be the same rate you will see it dropped and you will be amazed.
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BTC had his high percentages long ago. Now it's too big and popular for it. And it has really high fees and it's getteing used more and more by rich people and less by regular folks.
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Because the market cap and token supply of Bitcoin is very high so Bitcoin need double market cap for price doubling in a week.
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Because it's not easy to "pump" the price of bitcoin like you can with altcoins. Look at the trade volume of altcoins. They are low. Low volume means, it can be easily pumped (also manipulated). But bitcoin has high trade volume. Hence, it is not as easy as you think. Too many buy and sell orders of the same volume getting completed almost instantly every second, hence making it difficult to pump it. If it pumps a lot in short term, someone will dump it to take the profit, keeping the % of increase low. Look at most of those shitty altcoins getting pumped 10x and then dumped instantly. It's a good thing bitcoin doesn't get pumped like this. Shows healthy sign of the market.
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With some coins going up 50% or even l00% in a day or few days or in a week... any reason why bitcoin doesn't do that almost ever?  Look at binance coin and many of those other coins that are literally doubling in a week.  Now the btc dominance is going so low.  And even when btc goes up... you don't ever see it going up that much percent in a week.  I mean... its rare to see bitcoin say go up 50% in a week yet tons of altcoins do it.
Altcoins you're talking about probably have low market capitalization. So it's way easier for them to be pumped and dumped, and thus they're more volatile. If Bitcoin goes up 50%, it means that there will be an additional $500 billion added to its market capitalization. This is just a crazy amount of money, so no wonder Bitcoin is way more stable. But Bitcoin did go up by 600% in one year, so I think it's still a very impressive performance. Altcoins can be better for fast profits, but it's also very easy to lose a lot with them. Bitcoin provides profits over a longer period of time, but the risks of its price going rapidly down are also lower than with altcoins.
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With some coins going up 50% or even l00% in a day or few days or in a week... any reason why bitcoin doesn't do that almost ever?
Yea sure.



Why would you even compare that? Are you trying to forget Bitcoin is raising till this date since 4 months ago?
Almost 400% in last 4 months and you didn't even realize that if you think on long term. Many altcoins can't do the same stuff lik Bitcoin.

I know it's not by a day but it's still ridiculous to see people have such thought.

  Look at binance coin and many of those other coins that are literally doubling in a week.  Now the btc dominance is going so low.
Probably your opinion just biased at this point. Bitcoin however is still going strong and whenever you want to trade there will be enough liquidity to ensure you trade it efficiently.

Cheesy That's a good graphic to prove your point! Bitcoin performs outstandingly well given the price that it is coming from. Nobody in the world would complain about 400% in 4 months.
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That be a question but we are so thankful that Bitcoin is having like that. Its market cap could be a huge factor but is just like the demand is stabilizing which helps to maintain the growth gap and not like altcoins just shot up in one day and then it dumps drastically in the other day. I can imagine that people will suffer losses if that scenario will happen.

This is the reason why people, the majority choose Bitcoin out from altcoins as they are not worried so much that they will instantly lose their money for one day. They are not chasing about x50, x100 profit but they are securing the security of their fund and contented enough to make few dollars.
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- Indeed, when bitcoin grows too fast as an altcoin for just a short time, the altcoin market will suffer a very strong blood draw to strengthen bitcoin as the value of bitcoin is probably the highest in the market, every percent of its price increase would require a huge amount of capitalization, a few percent will not be a problem but a few tens of percent will push the altcoin down drastically and it is difficult to recover due to the confidence that has been poured into bitcoin. The current bullish regime and system is to create balance and limit altcoin sacrifices, such development will be stable.
Like what we saw this moment when bitcoin price down a lot. That makes altcoin follow to go down, and some of the altcoin drops too deep. But this conditions will be temporary and it will be back to the high price and when it go back, I think bitcoin price will have a chance to increase so high, and the altcoin will have the next altcoin season. Maybe bitcoin now is decrease a lot without knowing when it will be back to the price before.
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Bitcoin is traded in large volumes on a daily basis, so if someone buys or sells a large amount of Bitcoin, then the rest of the traders in the market will quickly equalize the value of Bitcoin. Also, Bitcoin is difficult to pump, as it takes billions of dollars, unlike some altcoins.

Yes, don't compare it with alts. Most alts have very low value as compared to bitcoin. Also, it is better for btc to have organic growth rather than pump it 100% or 200% in few days. Because we know, the drop is imminent in that case. Increasing the price of btc in the market for few percent will take a large amount of money, whereas, most alts will only take few thousands or millions of dollars to make a huge change in the market. Better if bitcoin is increasing its value with solid reasons and not just because of unfounded news in the market.
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I’m wondering also about that. The fact that Bitcoin has already gained so much at price. But I think the computation of the percentage of gains is the same as the computation for altcoins. Maybe we need more volume to pump it higher.
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It is right! I've noticed it too, but attributed it to the momentum of bitcoin and the products these altcoins offer. If we look at Binance, CZ is developing a powerful product for the community, as well as being verifiable. In Binance you can do everything with your bitcoins and cryptocurrencies in addition to obtaining money in your local currency.
It is the reason that I think because his coin BNB his price has doubled of course I support him 100%.
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Bitcoin is traded in large volumes on a daily basis, so if someone buys or sells a large amount of Bitcoin, then the rest of the traders in the market will quickly equalize the value of Bitcoin. Also, Bitcoin is difficult to pump, as it takes billions of dollars, unlike some altcoins.
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If at the beginning the price was tied to at least some specific value in dollars for electricity for production, now, alas, we must admit that the factor of speculators works quite strongly. I am sure further dependence on traders will only grow and the one who will have a market share will influence it more strongly, as in all other markets. Decentralization will not help when one guy decides to sell everything one day - we may collapse. But this is just a guess.
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With some coins going up 50% or even l00% in a day or few days or in a week... any reason why bitcoin doesn't do that almost ever?
Yea sure.



Why would you even compare that? Are you trying to forget Bitcoin is raising till this date since 4 months ago?
Almost 400% in last 4 months and you didn't even realize that if you think on long term. Many altcoins can't do the same stuff lik Bitcoin.

I know it's not by a day but it's still ridiculous to see people have such thought.

  Look at binance coin and many of those other coins that are literally doubling in a week.  Now the btc dominance is going so low.
Probably your opinion just biased at this point. Bitcoin however is still going strong and whenever you want to trade there will be enough liquidity to ensure you trade it efficiently.
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This can easily be googled or be realized just by common sense. But yes, we have this forum why not make use of it to make things easier and let others research and analyze the things that I am too lazy to search or analyze for myself. Lol. Seriously though, one or twoposts like this is okay, just learn your lesson next time and search first before doing anything. There are times when people here bash other people just for this type of thing. Don't want others to experience things I don't want to experience myself so Im giving you this advice. Goodluck on your future endeavors.
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If you're looking for a way to make money in a week, Bitcoin isn't really a good fit for it, because of a large market cap, but it's good for long-term investments. If you're looking for short-term trading though, it's best to use cheap alts with a much smaller market cap, like DOGE. You've probably seen how much they can change in price over a short period of time. But keep in mind that these tradings, while profitable if you buy and sell at the right time, are riskier, because if something can increase by 50% over 24h it might as well drop. Which is why, the fact that BTC isn't changing that much in price is actually a good sign.
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Bitcoin may not go up higher more than 50% in a day, not like altcoins do.
I imagine if BTC can really go up 50% in one day, the initial price at this moment is for example $60k and then 10 hours later, it goes up to $90.
Can it be?

Bitcoin may not go up so drastically in a day percentage. But you know, how percentage the Bitcoin has grown so far? And how this coin can really sustain the value and also increase the trust without any hype again?
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Bitcoin dominance is going bigger but bitcoin can not increase in just one night. Everything needs time and so do bitcoin. You only need to wait and see and patience for that. What happens to bitcoin now gives a chance for the altcoin to increase and hit the new ATH. We can see some of the altcoin trying to reach the highest price after hibernation from a long time ago.

If you see bitcoin dominance or say the price jump to the highest price in one night, people will shock and the altcoin will not have a chance to increase and doom for the altcoin. Just wait and see Grin
- Indeed, when bitcoin grows too fast as an altcoin for just a short time, the altcoin market will suffer a very strong blood draw to strengthen bitcoin as the value of bitcoin is probably the highest in the market, every percent of its price increase would require a huge amount of capitalization, a few percent will not be a problem but a few tens of percent will push the altcoin down drastically and it is difficult to recover due to the confidence that has been poured into bitcoin. The current bullish regime and system is to create balance and limit altcoin sacrifices, such development will be stable.
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With some coins going up 50% or even l00% in a day or few days or in a week... any reason why bitcoin doesn't do that almost ever?  Look at binance coin and many of those other coins that are literally doubling in a week.  Now the btc dominance is going so low.  And even when btc goes up... you don't ever see it going up that much percent in a week.  I mean... its rare to see bitcoin say go up 50% in a week yet tons of altcoins do it.



I believe that it is because of the Market Cap. The higher the MC, the harder for it to pump but its still possible for Bitcoin to be bullish but we need to expect it to rise slowly. The rate of people selling it is more than the people trying to buy it. Bitcoin does not grow its value weekly even though its possible. Bitcoin is for a more long term HODLing situation that a kid with knowledge with Cryptocurrencies should do because he/she has that life ahead. Alternate Coins are being created on the daily and all of this have the possibility to grow 50% within a day or within a week.
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Bitcoin dominance is going bigger but bitcoin can not increase in just one night. Everything needs time and so do bitcoin. You only need to wait and see and patience for that. What happens to bitcoin now gives a chance for the altcoin to increase and hit the new ATH. We can see some of the altcoin trying to reach the highest price after hibernation from a long time ago.

If you see bitcoin dominance or say the price jump to the highest price in one night, people will shock and the altcoin will not have a chance to increase and doom for the altcoin. Just wait and see Grin
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I think it is about the marketcap. Bitcoin has a huge dominance in the market now. Bitcoin marketcap has exceeded 1 trillion dollars. Hence, it is harder to see a huge amount of increase in the price.
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simple math

a coin worth $100 only needs 100 increments of $1 to get to $200
a coin worth $60k needs 60,000 increments of $1 to get to $120k

with a exchange orderbook having these increments. it takes lot of buying pressure to move a higher priced asset(actual increments are sub pennies so its a multiple of the 100-60000 respectively)

also some of the crap coins are pure speculation. they have nothing backing it so they can be more volatile
they are only used for pump and dumps. so have more frequent spikes and dips

i found the same issue when 'penny share' trading. its easier to move a investment that has a share price under $1 than it is to move a investment of $20

also bitcoin has more stable value underlying it. so the dumps dont happen as much. but with that the spikes dont happen as much either.

if a price dumped down buy 50% the correction then is seen as a 50% rise. and then speculative hype can push they by 50% making a 100%

but if a dip only occurs at 10% then the correction and hype(FOMO) would only be seen as 20%

..
the difference between a crap coin and bitcoin. the pump and dump volatility of a altcoin does not have a long term progressive growth.. but bitcoin does progressively grow. price now is much higher then price 2 years ago, which is greater than 2 years before that

dont think of altcoins as a long term asset. just think of them and use and abuse them as quick pump and dumps and return that back to bitcoin for the long term progressive growth

Yes and also penny share trading or shitcoin trading comes at another cost: liquidity cost. You can't get in and out as smoothly as you can with Bitcoin. That is worth a lot. We all had a coin I guess which we simply couldn't get rid off because the damn order book was thin or even empty.

In low liquidity and low volume coins you should sell anytime the price is slowly moving upwards. Otherwise you will be left holding the bag potentially forever.

I have a lot of wallets with some old worthless coins, damn it...
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no way .
its the btc that go up for more % than altcoins but it look small on your eyes because btc price is high than altcoins and no way altcoins can increase if btc didnt increase more %  .
btc dominates all cryptos because of its greater value and domination dont have a speed ,
its not going slow or fast but domination can end once value of btc is lower than altcoins .
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With some coins going up 50% or even l00% in a day or few days or in a week... any reason why bitcoin doesn't do that almost ever?  Look at binance coin and many of those other coins that are literally doubling in a week.  Now the btc dominance is going so low.  And even when btc goes up... you don't ever see it going up that much percent in a week.  I mean... its rare to see bitcoin say go up 50% in a week yet tons of altcoins do it.
It's because bitcoin is not being "pump", like the rest of the altcoins. And with it's massive growth already in the last 10 years or so, exponential price increase will have to slowdown. That's why as we go into 6 digits in the future, it might take some time. So don't compare bitcoins growth to altcoins pump and dump scheme.
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With some coins going up 50% or even l00% in a day or few days or in a week... any reason why bitcoin doesn't do that almost ever?  Look at binance coin and many of those other coins that are literally doubling in a week.  Now the btc dominance is going so low.  And even when btc goes up... you don't ever see it going up that much percent in a week.  I mean... its rare to see bitcoin say go up 50% in a week yet tons of altcoins do it.


I know how it feels. You are going to run out of patience if you keep waiting for months and its growth just increment just 3% unlike other altcoins that grew up to 300%. I think this relates to the price as well. People just don't buy a huge amount of BTC if you take a look at the orders on the exchanges and this is because its price is already high. Comparing it to altcoins which its prices somehow are less than $0.10.
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Bitcoin have huge market cap this why. You shouldn't put more than 15% from your protofilio in bitcoins is the lowest retun on investment.
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1. Altcoins have much lower market volumes and market depth than Bitcoin, you need much less money to move their markets.

2. Altcoins are overhyped, lot's of investors are ready to throw their money at them hoping for very quick gains, which creates bubbles.

3. Bitcoin used to be much more volatile in the early days, but it's not a sign that alts like DOGE are going to mature into Bitcoin's real competitors or even replacements. Their growth is just a bubble with no fundamentals behind them, while Bitcoin has solid reasons to grow - it's a secure payment system with 12 years of history and used by millions. No altcoin can claim the same.
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Say you had a shovel of dirt and you put it in the middle of a street. Anyone who comes up can easily take the same dirt and move it away. Now say you create a large pile of dirt. Hundreds of shovels of dirt, one over another. How easy is it to move the dirt now?

The more dirt there is, the harder it becomes to move it. Same goes with Bitcoin vs alts. Alts are the one shovel of dirt, Bitcoin is the hundreds. It doesn't take much to move the value of an asset worth a total of $100k as market cap. But with BTC, we're talking about trillions right now.

Money doesn't grow in trees. I get it that the US gov created so much money last year out of thin air, but that comes with a cost just like everything else. Bitcoin's price increase costs time. Alts volatility costs the risk of getting screwed all over by them.
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The price is already too high while the market capitalization also high aswell, 10% of 10$ is 1$ and 10% of $60000 is $6000 that alone already make it hard for bitcoin to gain price increase percentage more than 10% and there's also the market cap where the bigger it is, the harder for that coin to pump. You can easily pump some altcoin with just $100000 and it could triple the initial price but with bitcoin $100,000 is nothing. But you should also know that the more easy it is for a coin to increase its price to thousands percent of its initial price, the easier as well for that coin to get dumped into the bottom.
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We can say that such a thing is impossible. Bitcoin has a billion dollar volume of money. even one percent increase is worth millions of dollars. Therefore, it is difficult to increase or decrease.
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With some coins going up 50% or even l00% in a day or few days or in a week... any reason why bitcoin doesn't do that almost ever?  Look at binance coin and many of those other coins that are literally doubling in a week.  Now the btc dominance is going so low.  And even when btc goes up... you don't ever see it going up that much percent in a week.  I mean... its rare to see bitcoin say go up 50% in a week yet tons of altcoins do it.




Maybe simple way to say is, how much money to pump Bitcoin, and how much money to pump altcoin. Like if 1-1 with $50k+ can be used to pump altcoin how many percent, and bitcoin is only a few percent. I think simple way to describe is like that, we need a lot of money to pump bitcoin but i think it is better to pump it slowly like now.
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If you look at the short-term price ranges, you will definitely be disappointed with what BTC is currently doing. Especially if you are looking at it in percent. But if you add all the necessary changes from the genesis up to now, you will be blown away. No other coin is doing that yet.

So if you are looking to profit from speculation, it's best to check other coins. But if you are a hodler and you believe in BTC, then just HODL.
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All these currencies have low market capacities and cannot maintain these strong rises.
The small market capacity and the difficulty of producing more of them makes the price easily increase with the increase in demand, which is often pumped and dumped to achieve some gains.
It is a dangerous strategy and you can profit from it if you buy at a low price and sell when the rise occurs, but the opposite will be dangerous if you are lured by the highs.
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So what you are expecting? Double Bitcoin price every week? So where the price of Bitcoin will end? You are comparing Bitcoin with altcoin price, but have you notice even an altcoin dump 4x in a day? So same behavior are you expecting from Bitcoin as well? Altcoins pump and dump within a short time. Even you could lose your portfolio from alt dump. Just imagine, if Bitcoin behaves like an alt then it wouldn't take time to turn your portfolio almost ZERO. An altcoin is to just play in crypto markets, and whales are playing with it. It's quite easy to make a pump into altcoin since the price is lower, but it's quite complicated to manipulate Bitcoin price lately since the price has raised a lot. But if you feel that you should move into an altcoin, then feel free to do, but just be ready to see a dump portfolio.
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simple math

a coin worth $100 only needs 100 increments of $1 to get to $200
a coin worth $60k needs 60,000 increments of $1 to get to $120k

with a exchange orderbook having these increments. it takes lot of buying pressure to move a higher priced asset(actual increments are sub pennies so its a multiple of the 100-60000 respectively)

also some of the crap coins are pure speculation. they have nothing backing it so they can be more volatile
they are only used for pump and dumps. so have more frequent spikes and dips

i found the same issue when 'penny share' trading. its easier to move a investment that has a share price under $1 than it is to move a investment of $20

also bitcoin has more stable value underlying it. so the dumps dont happen as much. but with that the spikes dont happen as much either.

if a price dumped down buy 50% the correction then is seen as a 50% rise. and then speculative hype can push they by 50% making a 100%

but if a dip only occurs at 10% then the correction and hype(FOMO) would only be seen as 20%

..
the difference between a crap coin and bitcoin. the pump and dump volatility of a altcoin does not have a long term progressive growth.. but bitcoin does progressively grow. price now is much higher then price 2 years ago, which is greater than 2 years before that

dont think of altcoins as a long term asset. just think of them and use and abuse them as quick pump and dumps and return that back to bitcoin for the long term progressive growth
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because bitcoin price ver high right now. Meanwhile, to make the percentage increase in price high, bitcoin transactions must be large. And this cannot be done by everyone.
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With some coins going up 50% or even l00% in a day or few days or in a week... any reason why bitcoin doesn't do that almost ever?  Look at binance coin and many of those other coins that are literally doubling in a week.  Now the btc dominance is going so low.  And even when btc goes up... you don't ever see it going up that much percent in a week.  I mean... its rare to see bitcoin say go up 50% in a week yet tons of altcoins do it.




Your account created almost 4 years ago , you have gained 26 merits , and you actively posting in this forum for long time.

Yet..

- You are still Noob for this thing

- You are still Stupid to accept or understand the fact.



Bitcoin value is more than 25x Higher to the second high ranking coin .. Can you imagine if the price of Bitcoin increases 50%? this will cost at least more than half of the total capitalization of the market, If bitcoin will take this path? for sure you will never see those Shitcoin increasing like what you are saying now.
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This is an unrealistic expectation by far. It is very different for BTC to go up by 100% in comparison to some coin with a much smaller market cap. It requires a lot of money to push BTC another 100%.

Still saying that is possible though but just harder to achieve.
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You are one ungrateful son of a bitch don't you know that? Just look at the price of bitcoin of the past 2 years and say that shit again, if you want to get rich quickly then bitcoin is not the best place for you to invest in because you want to get the big money real fast. And you said that alts double in a day or week then why not invest in it?
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That's why a lot of redemption goes to altcoins.You look at the DOGE chart and notice that the price rose 81% in one day:



This means dominating the market and increasing the volume of transactions, this is the essence of Altcoins. But why is Bitcoin always at the top of the digital currency table?
Because it has the largest volume of transactions and is the king of all digital currencies. Bitcoin may not double in a week, but it has grown from 7,000 to 60,000 in a year.
Still do not see bitcoin worthy of kingship?
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It's way easier to pump the price of some altcoin,that has 1M USD daily trading volume,than pumping the price of Bitcoin Core,which has billions of dollars daily trading volume.
I don't understand why you should be complaining about this.If you want higher profits and higher volatility(higher risk),just pick altcoins(the trusted ones,not the shitcoins).If you want stable profits and less risk,then pick Bitcoin.
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The bitcoin market and the altcoin market are different segments, I think altcoins are easier to pump or dump at any time. and see usually the altcoins that are pumping quickly will easily dump. bitcoin is better to be able to pump slowly but consistently. and one more bitcoin for some people is used as an investment asset so many people hold bitcoin rather than altcoin
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With some coins going up 50% or even l00% in a day or few days or in a week... any reason why bitcoin doesn't do that almost ever?  Look at binance coin and many of those other coins that are literally doubling in a week.  Now the btc dominance is going so low.  And even when btc goes up... you don't ever see it going up that much percent in a week.  I mean... its rare to see bitcoin say go up 50% in a week yet tons of altcoins do it.

Yes, but don't cry.

That's simply because of the market cap, when Bitcon was worth much less it also had higher percentage changes. With $1T market cap it's much harder to move the price, and yet it's still the most profitable asset, more so than those shitcoins. You can play to get the movements of those shitcoins right in the short term but it's like playing roulette.

And I'm not worried about the market cap. Bitcoin loses market cap with respect to 10,000 shitcoins? LOL Let's compare one to one to see.

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With some coins going up 50% or even l00% in a day or few days or in a week... any reason why bitcoin doesn't do that almost ever?  Look at binance coin and many of those other coins that are literally doubling in a week.  Now the btc dominance is going so low.  And even when btc goes up... you don't ever see it going up that much percent in a week.  I mean... its rare to see bitcoin say go up 50% in a week yet tons of altcoins do it.



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