Why is Iran obsessed with nuclear energy and isn't seeking renwable energy?

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Quote from: KingScorpio on January 06, 2020, 05:58:17 PM

what is wrong with iranians why are they upholding nazism so much?

I personally dont blame Iran for such attitude as history proves that any agitation in middle east leads to Iran being cornered at most times. Iran miss their persian times and control they had during that period. The sense of insecurity and scarce resources among its people leads to such attitude of hitting back and hard whenever required. This leads to them not leaving the nuclear notch and having nuclear missions to produce more such warheads.

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I think Nazism is the wrong thing to do because there are many countries not just Iran that support slavery Iran is not looking for renewable energy by accident because of nuclear power because they will not own small things They will attack those countries who are not concerned about the renewable or independence of the people and who will give them freedom Iran therefore, is seeking a nuclear-based source of energy but not renewable energy.

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Quote from: Artemis3 on January 07, 2020, 02:14:52 PM

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Quote from: franky1 on January 06, 2020, 07:21:03 PM

many topics have shown you got no clue what nazism or slavery really is. time you invest in a couple history books

iran just dont want the yanks being the puppet masters. iran is not threatening america. they just want the yanks out of iran.

it america that want to be a superpower by invading other countries and weaken the inhabitants

i know very well what nazism is, its nationalist socialism a langauge based group creation that then ads race, history and geography to the mix,

unfortunately iran is obsessed with nuclear weapons, and thats why conflict is escalating.

So does North Korea and i don't see any escalation there... For what reason Trump ordered the assassination of some random general but to provoke them even more? Maybe he needs more support back home. Hey just like what they say happens in North Korea all the time "to keep the masses united behind the great leader" isn't?

the problem with north korea is that it is not religious, religious regimes are expected to be much more dangerous, as they consider the world some kind of a virtual reality, or video game.
additionally a north korea konflikt might still escalate.

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Quote from: KingScorpio on January 06, 2020, 08:03:10 PM

Quote from: franky1 on January 06, 2020, 07:21:03 PM

many topics have shown you got no clue what nazism or slavery really is. time you invest in a couple history books

iran just dont want the yanks being the puppet masters. iran is not threatening america. they just want the yanks out of iran.

it america that want to be a superpower by invading other countries and weaken the inhabitants

i know very well what nazism is, its nationalist socialism a langauge based group creation that then ads race, history and geography to the mix,

unfortunately iran is obsessed with nuclear weapons, and thats why conflict is escalating.

So does North Korea and i don't see any escalation there... For what reason Trump ordered the assassination of some random general but to provoke them even more? Maybe he needs more support back home. Hey just like what they say happens in North Korea all the time "to keep the masses united behind the great leader" isn't?

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Quote from: KingScorpio on January 06, 2020, 05:58:17 PM

what is wrong with iranians why are they upholding nazism so much?

It seems a national desire of iranians to reassert the influence and stronghold thst their country once enjoyed. Iranians crave nuclear strength mainly because of deep sense of insecurity they have and their vulnerability towards their enemies like Iraq, Saudi Arabia. In previous years , there have been tensions among arabian countries where Iran has found itself alone cornered by others and such incidents have lead to present attitude of Iran and its people.

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Quote from: johnwest on January 07, 2020, 11:43:28 AM

This is the same argument when India tried the nuclear testing in previous decades. India already started using the renewable energy but needed the nuclear because of the neighbors. Similarly Iran has too many enemies in its neighboring countries. And its not from years but decades now, where Iran is constantly trying to enrich the Uranium. But its true that Nuclear is the most efficient source for lots of energy creation.

Nuclear energy is just a story the Iranians tell the world to get them from their backs but it's no surprise that the whole thing is about getting Nuclear weapons mainly as a deterrent to the USA and Israel. They feel that the US will start respecting them like the North Koreans and wouldn't move against them just because they have nuclear weapons.

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This is the same argument when India tried the nuclear testing in previous decades. India already started using the renewable energy but needed the nuclear because of the neighbors. Similarly Iran has too many enemies in its neighboring countries. And its not from years but decades now, where Iran is constantly trying to enrich the Uranium. But its true that Nuclear is the most efficient source for lots of energy creation.

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The real reason why Iran wan't nuclear energy is most of the rival nation of Iran has it. Weapons are not only for aggression, they are also a defense strategy.
The whole world was used to be bullied by 2 superpowers in the past and they didn't wanted others to match their power. That's why they restricted others from gaining nuclear power and weapons. Even today you need to take sides to survive. But there are many regional powers that has rose to the level of superpowers. The Europe and most of the world is still divided into Russian and American lobby, but the regional power of China and India are also not ignorable.

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It's a guarantee against an attack by the US, or other powers at that. Seriously, I'd be disappointed at them if they still don't have any operation nukes since they seem to have started far earlier than China.

Quote from: coins4commies on January 07, 2020, 12:09:23 AM

Nuclear power is the most reliable carbon free energy source. Renewables don't come close in terms of reliability and gross energy production.

We'll probably have to eventually switch to renewables, even uranium can run out. But yeah, in the meantime, nuclear would be the bridge transitioning from coal and petrol. Plus they don't emit much CO2, for the greens that are worried about climate change.

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Sometimes in the past, the countries that determine the directions of others have gold, at some other point, its was the one with the most industralized society, later it was the currency or military power but in this generation we are fortunate to be part of, its the countries with the highest amount of chemical weapons in its arsenal that control things which is why most countries are not concerned with renewable or independence of its people rather how its being perceived in the outer world. With the provocation that happened over the weekend, only few countries have made their position known and one thing they have in common is either they are being sentimental or they know the party or parties concerned can do anything because of the amount of the chemical firepower.

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Quote from: KingScorpio on January 07, 2020, 07:52:48 AM

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Quote from: KingScorpio on January 06, 2020, 05:58:17 PM

what is wrong with iranians why are they upholding nazism so much?

This has nothing to do with Nazism, that's nonsense.

Iranian pursuit of nuclear power (and nuclear weapons) is entirely logical. Possession of nuclear weapons is the closest you can get to a guarantee that the US won't invade.

thats not true, then the hatred in the west against mullahs with nukes will turn to an asymetric war, with nonstate actors, states will not be possible to blame.

regards

I would argue that if North Korea didn't have nukes, the US would have invaded them a while ago.
You surely can't be saying there's no such thing as a nuclear deterrent?

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Quote from: Cnut237 on January 07, 2020, 07:50:02 AM

Quote from: KingScorpio on January 06, 2020, 05:58:17 PM

what is wrong with iranians why are they upholding nazism so much?

This has nothing to do with Nazism, that's nonsense.

Iranian pursuit of nuclear power (and nuclear weapons) is entirely logical. Possession of nuclear weapons is the closest you can get to a guarantee that the US won't invade.

thats not true, then the hatred in the west against mullahs with nukes will turn to an asymetric war, with nonstate actors, states will not be possible to blame.

regards

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Quote from: KingScorpio on January 06, 2020, 05:58:17 PM

what is wrong with iranians why are they upholding nazism so much?

This has nothing to do with Nazism, that's nonsense.

Iranian pursuit of nuclear power (and nuclear weapons) is entirely logical. Possession of nuclear weapons is the closest you can get to a guarantee that the US won't invade.

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Quote from: coins4commies on January 07, 2020, 12:09:23 AM

Nuclear power is the most reliable carbon free energy source. Renewables don't come close in terms of reliability and gross energy production.

but renewables are cheaper and less complicated regarding the maintenance, plus they dont create a potential environmental hazard target.

having islamic mullahs obtaining nuclear weapons is nothing great either.

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Quote from: franky1 on January 06, 2020, 08:41:15 PM

you dont even know what socialism is..

here is a todler explanation

capitalism is where corporations control the government for the benefit of corporations enrichment
communism is where governments care more for the benefit of government enrichment
socialism is where democratic elected governments by people run the country for the benefit of the people

nazi was communist

america is capitalist/communist (you can tell by the lack of social care)
iran is communist/socialist
UK was socialist but now swaying more towards capitalist

as for iran and nuclear weapons.. its their country. if they want to protect themsevles they should. the only thing they shouldnt do is threaten other countries. by thi i mean distant lands.. not american politicians within iran who try to pretend they own iran

by america overstepping their boundaries its america that are in the wrong in this case
america is the nazis' trying to take over other countries and convert people to american ways

such nonsense, communism seeks infrastructure development nazi is national socialist, it is an economic system that seeks to benefit a lingual cooperation.

i live in germany i know what nazism is. i was teached about that in my school years, and unlike you i am able to listen all nazi documentaries and adolf hitler speeches in the original langauge -> german

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Nuclear power is the most reliable carbon free energy source. Renewables don't come close in terms of reliability and gross energy production.

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you dont even know what socialism is..

here is a todler explanation

capitalism is where corporations control the government for the benefit of corporations enrichment
communism is where governments care more for the benefit of government enrichment
socialism is where democratic elected governments by people run the country for the benefit of the people

nazi was communist

america is capitalist/communist (you can tell by the lack of social care)
iran is communist/socialist
UK was socialist but now swaying more towards capitalist

as for iran and nuclear weapons.. its their country. if they want to protect themsevles they should. the only thing they shouldnt do is threaten other countries. by thi i mean distant lands.. not american politicians within iran who try to pretend they own iran

by america overstepping their boundaries its america that are in the wrong in this case
america is the nazis' trying to take over other countries and convert people to american ways

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Quote from: franky1 on January 06, 2020, 07:21:03 PM

many topics have shown you got no clue what nazism or slavery really is. time you invest in a couple history books

iran just dont want the yanks being the puppet masters. iran is not threatening america. they just want the yanks out of iran.

it america that want to be a superpower by invading other countries and weaken the inhabitants

i know very well what nazism is, its nationalist socialism a langauge based group creation that then ads race, history and geography to the mix,

unfortunately iran is obsessed with nuclear weapons, and thats why conflict is escalating.

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many topics have shown you got no clue what nazism or slavery really is. time you invest in a couple history books

iran just dont want the yanks being the puppet masters. iran is not threatening america. they just want the yanks out of iran.

it america that want to be a superpower by invading other countries and weaken the inhabitants

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what is wrong with iranians why are they upholding nazism so much?

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