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May 02, 2014, 08:00:01 AM
#50
Maybe because it has no confirmation for its' theoretical basis. In countries and societies where all races are mixed there're no proof for racist's primitive postulates.

seems like you never visited Bosnia&Herzegovina Cheesy

but this thread actually won't get us anywhere, so I'll just lock it, I'll conclude with saying no matter if someone is racist or not he's still equal to us Cheesy
we're all equal Smiley
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May 02, 2014, 03:33:06 AM
#49
Maybe because it has no confirmation for its' theoretical basis. In countries and societies where all races are mixed there're no proof for racist's primitive postulates.
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May 01, 2014, 10:48:08 PM
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I think it is a complex discussion that has many variables to be considered.  This issue is something that has been and will be discussed for a long time to come.
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May 01, 2014, 04:15:46 PM
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Where was the 'burn' exactly? And minorities don't have special rights nor do they usually want them, but they do want to be treated the same as everyone else, but of course idiots like yourself believe the bullshit propaganda spewed by ignorant racists etc. And look up Einstein's quote on nationalism.

I know all of that, and of course einstein thinks differently, he left his country, he had to leave, he had no reason to love it, he didn't even originate from there, he can't understand the love towards something that has been in your family for thousands of years

What country has your family been in for thousands of years? And why not have a love of the planet you are on or for your species instead? They go back a bit further than the bit of dirt you just so happened to have been shat out on to and now somehow feel some sort of affinity for it.

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And minorities don't have special rights

that's bullshit and you know it
A teacher gives me an F I complain and get another F

A minority gets an F, says the teacher hates him because he's *instert nationality here*, gets an A, + everyone treats him like a god for the rest of the year.

Nope. That's usually bullshit, but I guess you don't know it and just believe everything you hear.

but I have nothing against them I just think we need to be equal and never divide ourselves by nationality
one should not get special treatment because he comes from a different nation
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May 01, 2014, 03:31:25 PM
#46
minorities do want affirmative action though.. i don't know where i stand on that issue, but you could argue that they want special treatment.

The term 'minorities' refers to a hell of a lot of different people and I think you're making a mass generalisation there. I think the majority of minorities just want to be treated equally, as it should be. I'm sure there are some that would like special treatment - and there are non-minorities that would like that too - but they tend not to get it or be in the minority themselves.
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May 01, 2014, 03:24:58 PM
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minorities do want affirmative action though.. i don't know where i stand on that issue, but you could argue that they want special treatment.
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May 01, 2014, 03:20:56 PM
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Where was the 'burn' exactly? And minorities don't have special rights nor do they usually want them, but they do want to be treated the same as everyone else, but of course idiots like yourself believe the bullshit propaganda spewed by ignorant racists etc. And look up Einstein's quote on nationalism.

I know all of that, and of course einstein thinks differently, he left his country, he had to leave, he had no reason to love it, he didn't even originate from there, he can't understand the love towards something that has been in your family for thousands of years

What country has your family been in for thousands of years? And why not have a love of the planet you are on or for your species instead? They go back a bit further than the bit of dirt you just so happened to have been shat out on to and now somehow feel some sort of affinity for it.

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And minorities don't have special rights

that's bullshit and you know it
A teacher gives me an F I complain and get another F

A minority gets an F, says the teacher hates him because he's *instert nationality here*, gets an A, + everyone treats him like a god for the rest of the year.

Nope. That's usually bullshit, but I guess you don't know it and just believe everything you hear.
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May 01, 2014, 03:14:20 PM
#43
Where was the 'burn' exactly? And minorities don't have special rights nor do they usually want them, but they do want to be treated the same as everyone else, but of course idiots like yourself believe the bullshit propaganda spewed by ignorant racists etc. And look up Einstein's quote on nationalism.

I know all of that, and of course einstein thinks differently, he left his country, he had to leave, he had no reason to love it, he didn't even originate from there, he can't understand the love towards something that has been in your family for thousands of years

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And minorities don't have special rights

that's bullshit and you know it
A teacher gives me an F I complain and get another F

A minority gets an F, says the teacher hates him because he's *instert nationality here*, gets an A, + everyone treats him like a god for the rest of the year..
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April 30, 2014, 05:40:37 PM
#42
Where was the 'burn' exactly? And minorities don't have special rights nor do they usually want them, but they do want to be treated the same as everyone else, but of course idiots like yourself believe the bullshit propaganda spewed by ignorant racists etc. And look up Einstein's quote on nationalism.
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April 30, 2014, 02:59:29 PM
#41
(Though both are stupid really).

What else should a brainwashed pommie think.
ohh snap, burn on you Cheesy

Here's a better question:

Why is it acceptable to make fun of culture but not subculture?

because today minorities have special rights instead of equal rights

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It's usually Nationalism that makes borders.


what's wrong with nationalism? Cheesy

Because it's stupid.

why is nationalism stupid?

you need to love your country in order to defend it Cheesy

Defend it from who? Other nationalists? Do you know the difference between Patriotism and Nationalism? (Though both are stupid really).

let me answer by a quote

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Nationalism is a belief, creed or political ideology that involves an individual identifying with, or becoming attached to, one's nation. Nationalism involves national identity, by contrast with the related construct of patriotism, which involves the social conditioning and personal behaviors that support a state's decisions and actions.[1]

I like both Cheesy

btw people who weren't nationlists started wars too
annexed other countries, the nationalists were the ones that stood up to them Smiley
along with  the patriots of course Cheesy
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April 30, 2014, 02:43:34 PM
#40
(Though both are stupid really).

What else should a brainwashed pommie think.

Can you expand on what you mean exactly by 'brainwashed pommie' and the reasoning for it?

There is nothing left you could fight for. You country is fucked up. You were brainwashed by all that jewish multicultural political correct bullshit.
That's my opinion. And btw. my country is also fucked up. Nothing left to fight for. But at least i know what's going on and I don't accept it.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFE0qAiofMQ#t=38s

Ah, so you're a racist and an anti-semite? Although the Jewish one is kinda new, it's usually plebs complaining about the Muslims who are supposedly 'ruining' 'their' country. And I don't know what I've been brainwashed by exactly. It looks to me as if you're the one who has been brainwashed.

Are you really from the UK or what does "Kingdom of the United" stand for"?

No i'm not racist and i'm not an anti-semite. You would go to jail in austria if you say something wrong against jews or if you would deny the holocaust. lol
Some Jews are very intelligent. Especially the Ashkenazi division. That is the reason why they control many of the media and big businesses.
And about races I would say that the caucasian and mongolid race achieved more than the negroid race. But does this make me racist? I don't think so. And why should i deny the truth?

And i was brainwashed and accepted it but it was for nothing. I was forced to leave vienna because of cultural alienation and rising crime. There was no future for me anymore.

And what does brainwashed mean anyway? Everything is relative. I'm just sailing with another ideology than you. My own one. And not with an ideology implanted by TV, society and political correctness.
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April 30, 2014, 02:37:01 PM
#39
extremism is not the way. if you are hypersensitive to race, then racism wins. make fun of all races and ethnicities equally. black people refer to each other as "nigga" in order to strip the power and meaning in the word.. just laugh about shit instead of taking it so seriously.

inversely, i met a black woman who was angry at the "white man" and referred to them as "white boys." she was not very fond of them, yet she was ultrasensitive about her blackness. how would you feel if a black person called you a "racist honky ass white boy"?
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April 30, 2014, 02:06:39 PM
#38
Here's a better question:

Why is it acceptable to make fun of culture but not subculture?
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April 30, 2014, 01:46:23 PM
#37
(Though both are stupid really).

What else should a brainwashed pommie think.

Can you expand on what you mean exactly by 'brainwashed pommie' and the reasoning for it?

There is nothing left you could fight for. You country is fucked up. You were brainwashed by all that jewish multicultural political correct bullshit.
That's my opinion. And btw. my country is also fucked up. Nothing left to fight for. But at least i know what's going on and I don't accept it.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFE0qAiofMQ#t=38s

Ah, so you're a racist and an anti-semite? Although the Jewish one is kinda new, it's usually plebs complaining about the Muslims who are supposedly 'ruining' 'their' country. And I don't know what I've been brainwashed by exactly. It looks to me as if you're the one who has been brainwashed.
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April 30, 2014, 01:28:20 PM
#36
(Though both are stupid really).

What else should a brainwashed pommie think.

Can you expand on what you mean exactly by 'brainwashed pommie' and the reasoning for it?

There is nothing left you could fight for. You country is fucked up. You were brainwashed by all that jewish multicultural political correct bullshit.
That's my opinion. And btw. my country is also fucked up. Nothing left to fight for. But at least i know what's going on and I don't accept it.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFE0qAiofMQ#t=38s
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April 30, 2014, 01:16:51 PM
#35
(Though both are stupid really).

What else should a brainwashed pommie think.

Can you expand on what you mean exactly by 'brainwashed pommie' and the reasoning for it?
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April 30, 2014, 01:09:30 PM
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(Though both are stupid really).

What else should a brainwashed pommie think.
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April 30, 2014, 11:25:24 AM
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It's usually Nationalism that makes borders.


what's wrong with nationalism? Cheesy

Because it's stupid.

why is nationalism stupid?

you need to love your country in order to defend it Cheesy

Defend it from who? Other nationalists? Do you know the difference between Patriotism and Nationalism? (Though both are stupid really).
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April 30, 2014, 11:13:37 AM
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It's usually Nationalism that makes borders.


what's wrong with nationalism? Cheesy

Because it's stupid.

why is nationalism stupid?

you need to love your country in order to defend it Cheesy
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April 30, 2014, 09:53:53 AM
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It's usually Nationalism that makes borders.


what's wrong with nationalism? Cheesy

Because it's stupid.
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April 30, 2014, 09:25:34 AM
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It's usually Nationalism that makes borders.


what's wrong with nationalism? Cheesy
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April 29, 2014, 11:21:38 PM
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I think because it's a trait commonly found in adults who act like children.  Children is very closed minded views and just the general fear of what they don't understand.  
This seems to imply to me a sense of regression.

Actually, very few children are racists. Those who are were usually raised in a racist environment, with closed minded adults who have a view of live that is more cynic than any child could possibly have.

Children are usually curious to what they don't understand; hence their desire to play.

Believe it or not I feel the same way as you.  I just find both points we made to be true at the same time.
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April 29, 2014, 05:57:36 PM
#28
I never said I get to determine what you say, but I usually find only morons make such mass generalisations and assumptions.

I find only assholes look for trouble.

What trouble am I looking for exactly? You're the one who's seemingly butthurt after I pointed out your fallacy.
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April 29, 2014, 05:54:11 PM
#27


It's usually Nationalism that makes borders.

Well racism too. I mean borders between people. Borders that makes our communication between races harder...
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April 29, 2014, 05:52:03 PM
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I never said I get to determine what you say, but I usually find only morons make such mass generalisations and assumptions.

I find only assholes look for trouble.
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April 29, 2014, 05:45:29 PM
#25
I don't think...

I don't think you get to determine what I say. Regardless, you should note that statement started with "I've found"...

Maybe I should have stated I don't generally associate with angry douchebags. So maybe it's just the non-angry douchebags that find it funny.

And mexican is not a race.

I never said I get to determine what you say, but I usually find only morons make such mass generalisations and assumptions.

And no, but black is, but you're nitpicking.
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April 29, 2014, 05:36:48 PM
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I don't think...

I don't think you get to determine what I say. Regardless, you should note that statement started with "I've found"...

Maybe I should have stated I don't generally associate with angry douchebags. So maybe it's just the non-angry douchebags that find it funny.

And mexican is not a race.
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April 29, 2014, 05:28:27 PM
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You'll find a lot of what is flagged by the media as racism, doesn't not fit in to a "bad" definition of racism. Is recognising the benifits/drawbacks to physical differences between races, racist? Sure. Is it bad? No.


You know, I just watched a Jon Stewart episode recently and he rightly pointed out that while America may have done a lot to tackle racism in the country people don't actually know what it is, what you're describing is a stereotype rather than racism which is why I openly laugh at and mock people who think using a certain word or describing people in a certain way is 'racist'.

I've found the people who most appreciate stereotypes, are those that the stereotype is regarding. Black people love black jokes. Mexicans love mexican jokes. If they have to know you respect them, they take it for what it's worth.

I don't think you get to speak on behalf of what you think entire races find funny or not.

The title is pretty much self explanatory

I am sure racism is something wrong.
We are people from around the world - different races, different cultures.
We should respect each other as we are all same human beings.

In the world of today we should unite. Racism makes borders.

It's usually Nationalism that makes borders.
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April 29, 2014, 05:22:23 PM
#22
The title is pretty much self explanatory

I am sure racism is something wrong.
We are people from around the world - different races, different cultures.
We should respect each other as we are all same human beings.

In the world of today we should unite. Racism makes borders.
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April 29, 2014, 05:20:08 PM
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You'll find a lot of what is flagged by the media as racism, doesn't not fit in to a "bad" definition of racism. Is recognising the benifits/drawbacks to physical differences between races, racist? Sure. Is it bad? No.


You know, I just watched a Jon Stewart episode recently and he rightly pointed out that while America may have done a lot to tackle racism in the country people don't actually know what it is, what you're describing is a stereotype rather than racism which is why I openly laugh at and mock people who think using a certain word or describing people in a certain way is 'racist'.

I've found the people who most appreciate stereotypes, are those that the stereotype is regarding. Black people love black jokes. Mexicans love mexican jokes. If they have to know you respect them, they take it for what it's worth.

There are also assholes. And assholes are assholes. Racism is just an excuse to be an asshole.
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April 29, 2014, 04:56:36 PM
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You'll find a lot of what is flagged by the media as racism, doesn't not fit in to a "bad" definition of racism. Is recognising the benifits/drawbacks to physical differences between races, racist? Sure. Is it bad? No.


You know, I just watched a Jon Stewart episode recently and he rightly pointed out that while America may have done a lot to tackle racism in the country people don't actually know what it is, what you're describing is a stereotype rather than racism which is why I openly laugh at and mock people who think using a certain word or describing people in a certain way is 'racist'.
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April 29, 2014, 04:24:18 PM
#19
Define racism.

You'll find a lot of what is flagged by the media as racism, doesn't not fit in to a "bad" definition of racism. Is recognising the benifits/drawbacks to physical differences between races, racist? Sure. Is it bad? No.

I have a lot of white, hispanic, and black friends. Always have. I see every bit as much racism out of the hispanics and blacks, as I do out of the the whites. Only difference is the hispanics and blacks are open about it.

Where I grew up, no one gave a shit about your race. In the region I live in currently, it's a much bigger issue. The politics of racism are big business.
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April 29, 2014, 04:13:02 PM
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I think because it's a trait commonly found in adults who act like children.  Children is very closed minded views and just the general fear of what they don't understand.  
This seems to imply to me a sense of regression.

Actually, very few children are racists. Those who are were usually raised in a racist environment, with closed minded adults who have a view of live that is more cynic than any child could possibly have.

Children are usually curious to what they don't understand; hence their desire to play.

Yeah, this is true. Most children wont even notice the difference in skin colour. Racism is just hate and misplaced anger and those are gradually learnt later in life. If you're raised in an ignorant and xenophobic environment with racists as family, then yeah, there's a good chance you'll be a racist for therest of your life.

lol

that's so not true Cheesy

perhaps if you live in the USA lol

when you live somewhere where people with different skin colors are absent they do notice it..
they react to it, usually ask did that guy stay out at the sunlight too long or was he in some kind of an explosion, something like that Cheesy


There was only one black kid in my class in primary school and I didn't think he was any different until an adult pointed it out and referred to him as 'black'. I think it's just social conditioning. Of course there are always exceptions, but if a kid did notice the difference they probably wont care that much about it.
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April 29, 2014, 04:02:44 PM
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it's primitive because it is animalistic. a primate that sees something that does not look like its; so it becomes aggressive towards it.. which it thinks is for the sake of its survival.

eating food is animalistic too Cheesy


what's your point though?

caring about your offsprings is also animalistic

does that make it primitive too? Cheesy

I know you can see the point Cheesy

i didn't know that only 1 quality can be primitive?

primitive qualities are the "basic" ones.. the ones that primates used in order to survive. caring for offspring is one of them, being wary of species that do not look like yours is also another one.

so you're saying that racism is a basic quality Cheesy

I think because it's a trait commonly found in adults who act like children.  Children is very closed minded views and just the general fear of what they don't understand.  
This seems to imply to me a sense of regression.

Actually, very few children are racists. Those who are were usually raised in a racist environment, with closed minded adults who have a view of live that is more cynic than any child could possibly have.

Children are usually curious to what they don't understand; hence their desire to play.

Yeah, this is true. Most children wont even notice the difference in skin colour. Racism is just hate and misplaced anger and those are gradually learnt later in life. If you're raised in an ignorant and xenophobic environment with racists as family, then yeah, there's a good chance you'll be a racist for therest of your life.

lol

that's so not true Cheesy

perhaps if you live in the USA lol

when you live somewhere where people with different skin colors are absent they do notice it..
they react to it, usually ask did that guy stay out at the sunlight too long or was he in some kind of an explosion, something like that Cheesy
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I think because it's a trait commonly found in adults who act like children.  Children is very closed minded views and just the general fear of what they don't understand.  
This seems to imply to me a sense of regression.

Actually, very few children are racists. Those who are were usually raised in a racist environment, with closed minded adults who have a view of live that is more cynic than any child could possibly have.

Children are usually curious to what they don't understand; hence their desire to play.

Yeah, this is true. Most children wont even notice the difference in skin colour. Racism is just hate and misplaced anger and those are gradually learnt later in life. If you're raised in an ignorant and xenophobic environment with racists as family, then yeah, there's a good chance you'll be a racist for therest of your life.
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April 29, 2014, 03:52:30 PM
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Being afraid of something unseen before and different to yourself is normal. Forming a stereotype of something you have little understanding of is normal too. Feeling uneasy about that stereotype is still normal.

BUT being hostile towards a person just because the person is different or fits an unpleasant stereotype, is primitive/uncivilised. That "difference" could be weight, gender, sex orientation, and race is just part of it.

Racism is a subset of a general "inequality". It just seemed to get centre stage.

There is different degree of racism/inequality in everyone. It is entwined with pride, fear, and anger. A civilised person learn to subdue and primitive person let it dictate.

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April 29, 2014, 03:06:30 PM
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I think because it's a trait commonly found in adults who act like children.  Children is very closed minded views and just the general fear of what they don't understand.  
This seems to imply to me a sense of regression.

Actually, very few children are racists. Those who are were usually raised in a racist environment, with closed minded adults who have a view of live that is more cynic than any child could possibly have.

Children are usually curious to what they don't understand; hence their desire to play.
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April 29, 2014, 03:02:19 PM
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it's primitive because it is animalistic. a primate that sees something that does not look like its; so it becomes aggressive towards it.. which it thinks is for the sake of its survival.

eating food is animalistic too Cheesy


what's your point though?

caring about your offsprings is also animalistic

does that make it primitive too? Cheesy

I know you can see the point Cheesy

i didn't know that only 1 quality can be primitive?

primitive qualities are the "basic" ones.. the ones that primates used in order to survive. caring for offspring is one of them, being wary of species that do not look like yours is also another one.
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April 29, 2014, 02:45:14 PM
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it's primitive because it is animalistic. a primate that sees something that does not look like its; so it becomes aggressive towards it.. which it thinks is for the sake of its survival.

eating food is animalistic too Cheesy


what's your point though?

caring about your offsprings is also animalistic

does that make it primitive too? Cheesy

I know you can see the point Cheesy
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April 29, 2014, 02:12:26 PM
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There are many levels and extremes of racism. IMO Primitive forms of racism are not typically found in large quantities although they do still exist. Primitive forms meaning someone looking at someone and wanting to kill/enslave/or stay away from JUST because of the color of a humans skin. This is the only form of racism that should be considered primitive.

I think the form of racism that exists these days is more stereotyping then pure racism and comes from the interpretation that a majority of crimes are committed by minorities & gangs and is fueled by the perception that minorities and gangs are primarily blacks & mexicans.

I personally do not agree with stereotyping either, but I wouldn't call it primitive.
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April 29, 2014, 02:01:48 PM
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it's primitive because it is animalistic. a primate that sees something that does not look like its; so it becomes aggressive towards it.. which it thinks is for the sake of its survival.

eating food is animalistic too Cheesy


what's your point though?
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April 29, 2014, 01:20:01 PM
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it's primitive because it is animalistic. a primate that sees something that does not look like its; so it becomes aggressive towards it.. which it thinks is for the sake of its survival.

eating food is animalistic too Cheesy
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April 29, 2014, 11:31:08 AM
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it's primitive because it is animalistic. a primate that sees something that does not look like its; so it becomes aggressive towards it.. which it thinks is for the sake of its survival.
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April 29, 2014, 10:37:30 AM
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Because it was based on people who never left their towns in the 1800's
Who's the stranger/traveler
Oh hes not from here
He must be evil
We don't take kindly to your kind coming around these parts GTFO
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That's basically it, racism is an off-shoot of xenophobia ( being scared of foreigners ), the Romans are an example of a mixture of xenophobia and racism where they thought themselves superior and had a paranoia when it came to outsiders visiting their country, for whatever reason it spread to simply being about colour, probably because as people interacted with each other they probably realised they couldn't really 'just' be afraid of foreigners anymore.

As for supremacists they're just basically the same type of people except massive cunts.
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April 29, 2014, 10:11:20 AM
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Do you really think a mature, sophisticated adult would even ponder on the idea that one race is superior than another?

doesn't everyone think their something is better then someone elses? Cheesy

I think racism started out as a love your own movement but it turned into something else Cheesy

hell, hitler was man of the year by people magazine Cheesy
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April 29, 2014, 04:30:17 AM
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Because it was based on people who never left their towns in the 1800's
Who's the stranger/traveler
Oh hes not from here
He must be evil
We don't take kindly to your kind coming around these parts GTFO
Classic Racism  Just plain old ignorance Tongue
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April 29, 2014, 04:26:31 AM
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Because it's moronic and ignorant and holds no factual or scientific basis?
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Do you really think a mature, sophisticated adult would even ponder on the idea that one race is superior than another?
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April 28, 2014, 05:52:21 PM
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I think because it's a trait commonly found in adults who act like children.  Children is very closed minded views and just the general fear of what they don't understand. 
This seems to imply to me a sense of regression.
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April 28, 2014, 04:43:02 PM
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The title is pretty much self explanatory
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