Topic: Why poor people always have more kids? (Read 499 times)

Mostly because they have two problems:

a) They are poor and cannot get a flat screen and a subscription to Netflix, so they need to find something to pass the time.
b) Because in winter they cannot afford turning the heating on, so they need to find a way of heating up the rooms.

So, they are poor, but they are not stupid and can perfectly figure out an activity that is fun and heats up the room. As a side effect, they have kids.

I hope this helps.

Did you say divorce?

Divorce isn't either a legal and/or a realistic option for women in these countries that have problems with unwanted pregnancies. In other words, either divorce is practically speaking impossible for millions of women in these countries, or it's outright illegal. So men don't have to give a shit about divorce, which changes their outlook completely.

And without the option of divorce, men can (and do) repeatedly rape their spouses. And then those same countries tend to shun and/or outlaw birth control, and shun and/or outlaw abortion.

So basically women are being forced by men to have babies whether they want them or not.

If you want your country to have developed-country birth statistics, then give your country developed-country laws protecting women's rights.

It's as simple as that.

Some of those poor people only think too much and the only way of eating off thinking off their mind is either by taking lots of alcohol and mostly sex and they do it without thinking of the situation at hand, no job too is another factor. When you stay at home doing nothing what is expected of someone who have a woman at him? The man must try not to lose her to other men and by doing so is to give her the pleasure she deserves. Being a poor man is not easy, but what I think can help is if the man is busy then the children at home won't be much because he will be thinking of how to take care of the ones at home and not multiple to his problems.

You could probably come up with a lot of reasons why poor people have more kids on average. For example, birth control isn’t free, neither is higher education. Also, the small incentives for having children are much more meaningful to the poor. In the end though, I’d say being rich teaches you how to protect your wealth and nothing destroys wealth like divorce or derails financial growth for the young like child support.

Poor people do not have that financial capability to afford the basic necessities of life like health care, education, food, shelter and many others. Aside the fact that some poor people cannot afford some birth control measures, many are still giving birth to more children because of lack of education. The problem with many is illiteracy and ignorance that is why they still believe the saying that "God is the giver of children and he will provide means to train them by himself". Some will even reject family planning because they've heard some negative things about it or their traditions/religions are not in support of family planning.

All some poor people need is sensitization on the need for family planning because some of them do not know that couples can actually decide the number of children they wish to have and still achieve that number. Only when this is done, will they take family planning seriously just like they take food seriously.

You aren't talking about it because you don't want to--which is exactly why nothing will ever change in your country, insofar at voters and leaders think like you do.

Poor families have poor women with fewer options for birth control, fewer options for abortion, and fewer options when their spouse rapes them. If you refuse to acknowledge this and instead want to just blame the supposed moral failure of women, then you are part of the problem and nothing will change.

If you actually want to solve the problem--and I'm not convinced you do--then you will look at the actual origins of the problem and elevate the status of women in your country.

If you want to keep denigrating women in your country, then you are going to have to keep dealing with unwanted pregnancies. It's as simple as that.

In Europe, the US, and the developed Asian countries:

1. Women have access to birth control.

2. Women have access to abortions.

3. Women can divorce and have recourse when their spouses rape them.

If you want your country to be like them, then that ^^^ is what you do.


If you don't want to hear any of this and want to continue blaming women, then get used to lots of unwanted pregnancies in your country.

bro this actually a good one, I heard a lot of poor putting there hope on there children to be rich and to take care of the family.
but funny the funny thing that those people believe the saying "if you suffer today you gonna have an easy tomorrow"
just because you suffer today it dose not mean you gonna have a good future, maybe you will suffer and die.

in central Africa they dose, at least till 2000s
and as I said before if you need an education to understand a common sense then you are lower than animals, because even animals have the common sense of not producing more than they can feed.
in Europe back in the days people had more kids because the food was secured, they didn't live in famine and had kids

the irony that you don't understand this thread and you want me to reply on your reply even tho your reply come from the fact that you did not understand anything in this thread.
I am not talking about rape victim I am talking about families, poor families that have more kids than they should be or should do.


you are a deep thinker uneng, I really like the way you think.
my theory is that eugenic is the only answer to this.
you might think that the cycle broking easily but it dose not, the US has illiteracy rate less than 1% and most of the 1%  are mentally challenged people.
and yet you see how many serials killer out there and all of them had there share of abuse.
the only way to end this cycle is to end the blood line.
I am one of the most people who dream of eugenic in my own country, even tho I am sure they will sterilize me the first but I have no problem, one of the most important reasons Germany have the highest IQ in Europe was what happen in Nazi Germany back then, they when they sterilize anyone that showed criminal future and anyone with a low IQ, thus the only Germans that had kids were the best Germans.
now a days they talk about "human rights" and how everyone has the right to have kids, but when you tells them to raise the taxes so you take care of those mentally ill and stupid people everyone "human righter" disappear.
you need to break the cycle you need to sterilize them.

either way the generational trauma will have 2 ends:
1-The last link will hate himself and his blood line and he refrains from having children
2-They will have even more children and beat the living fuck out of them daily (some times it's rape)

It depends on the country and the individual mindset. Some countries does not permit a family to have more than four kids and some three kids but in some countries especially the third world countries the government don't care about how to control the population even when they cannot provide for them.

In my country rich and poor men have many children as a matter of fact my two close friends are from rich families and their parents gave birth to 8 children and the other 11 children. The only difference with a rich man that has many children with that of a poor man is that the rich man will take care of his children and train them to university level but a poor man with many children will be allow his to become nuisance to the society because the responsibility is more than them.

The irony of this thread is that OP is answering his own question by blaming women on the problem, and ignoring the actual causes e.g. the treatment of women in his country.

Hey, I get where you're coming from, but some of those stats aren't quite right. Let me break it down:
Yeah, the population numbers for Africa and South Asia seem about right. But saying 37.5% of people live in extreme poverty? That's way off. The World Bank says it's actually around 9.2% as of 2020. Still a lot of people, but nowhere near a third of the world.
And about birth rates in Africa - it's not 8 kids per woman like you said. It's more like 4.6 on average. Still higher than rich countries, but it's been going down over time.
The thing is, this isn't some age-old pattern that's been happening for thousands of years. Birth rates have been dropping pretty much everywhere as education and healthcare get better, even in poorer countries.
It's important to get the facts straight. There's usually more to the story than what we might assume at first glance.

If they were raised wrongly, being abused and not receiving the correct stimulus and incentives for each phase of their lives, it means they didn't receive guidance from the family, school and society where they are inserted.

To guide a child is part of the raising process. You have to give attention, teach good principles and values, show behavioral examples, so they can mirror their actions on your conduct.

However, if this guidance has never been available, how are they going to end the cycle? Noboby can absorb a knowledge or influence they have never been exposed to. That is why it's a process which takes a long time to happen, maybe several generations inside a family...

There isn't a known solution for this issue. What we see for real is that the minority of the individuals in such financial conditions are able to avoid this "destiny", and then start thinking critically about this matter (and end being criticized by everyone else around...). I believe these individuals are the hope for others who can finally get inspired by them to also escape the "Platonic cave" from Plato’s Allegory of the Cave.

The reason why poor people has more kids in most cases they believe since them don't have money that any of their kids will be rich in future,their by making their name to come up ,the son of emeka the palmwine tapper ,is now rich most family are not rich but they have fat and tall men in the house if u defeet them in money one can't defeet them by natural power ,they will finish you,with this few point of my one can know the reasons why man men has many children

Well, you're on point with that but doing the actual deed will make them forgot all of those consequences and they just pop it inside and let alone what's going to be the future of them and their kids. I guess we'd end up telling them that they're irresponsible and being poor won't be an excuse anymore when they understand how tough life is nowadays. They might skip to the part about being uneducated about safe sex and reproductive health lessons. I think the materials are there in spreading campaigns and drives about family planning and safe sex, they probably have heard it somewhere or from a concerned family member gives them a warning that they should control their sex and don't pop it inside. But then, the sensation and emotion can't be controlled by them. Problems after problems.

In your narrow little world, have you ever heard the word, "rape"? Just curious.

when you fail to achieve something you will dream that your kids or descended will do, and of course I am talking about real achievement here not sloppy achievements like seeing a match or movie or wining the hart of a certain person girl, talking about building a company or finding the cure or creating something new.
not everyone can afford to go clubbing every weekend or taking a girl to a nice restaurant, and not everyone can take care of his house.
human right only when they benefit them, that's why my goal will be to show my government how much money they will save on the long run If they adopted Eugenics they probably will agree.

It's not only about education and guidance, if they were raised wrongly e.g. stunting, had trauma, suffer structural poverty etc, they might not able to escape from poverty.

how do I give you merit pro? you really seem to me the only one in this thread that understand me!
that's the whole problem about this, the cycle will never end!


If you're willing to trade 5 second of pleasures for years of responsibility and tons of money then you are stupid because the trade aren't worth it.
and family plaining is a common sense for god sake once you know how hard to raise a kid you will know how to plan.
it's not about education and if you need education to understand a common sense then you are stupid low IQ person.

I respect people but I am not the type of people to be polite about an issue especially if it effect me personally and god know it dose.
finally the truth is the truth, Whether it rephrased tactfully or harshly the point of that truth isn't changing.

When the rich is bored, they go on vacation;
When the poor is bored, he goes to bed with his wife.

When the rich goes to picnic, the poor goes to bed.

When the rich use contraceptives, the poor doesn't.

The rich has family planning, the poor doesn't know about that.

The rich is planning on how to make his children have the best life, the poor is producing, hoping that one can change the background of the family.

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@Op, They aren't stupid, but you must learn to respect everyone and not to bash at them.

That's really weird the way you think getting married is when someone fail to achieve something.

If they want to have sex, they should find sluts instead. Cleaning house isn't that hard though.

Since the modern society think human rights is really important, I doubt Eugenics will be applied nowadays.

It's not only about education and guidance, if they were raised wrongly e.g. stunting, had trauma, suffer structural poverty etc, they might not able to escape from poverty.

Lmao, using children as a gift is really not make sense.

If the rich can't produce more children, they can just adopt other children as many as they can afford.

Is birth control legal in your country?

Is it readily available to the average poor female?

Is abortion legal in your country?

Is it readily available to the average poor female?

Are there strong (and enforced) laws in your country protecting women from violence from men? From their spouses?

Does your country's laws and/or traditions allow divorce that is initiated by the woman?

For all of the "rich" people you speak of, who do not have many children, the answer is "yes".

For almost all of the "poor stupid" people you speak of, who have more children than they can afford, the answer is "no".


If you want change in your country, the answer is to empower women, not blame the victims like you are doing.


Simply blaming women who have no options won't do anything except make the problem worse.

a person wealth isn't just in money, it can also be measured in land, farms and anything really.
there are people who I also knew (not personally ) that had 12 and 13 children and nothing but a huge land and they transform it into farms and they did not had a problem with there life.
this man wouldn't have any problem if he simply brought his kids to the jungle and taught them to farm and this is the problem, poor people who have a dozen of children without taking any responsibility towards them
and no, I never ever saw rich person who has more than 4 kids (beside Elon musk but that dude is super rich)



I said it before and I am saying it again, if you need an education to understand a common sense then you aren't a human, simple as that.
once they have there first kid and realize what a huge responsibility that kid is and they don't figure out how hard it's to feed one kid then they should not have another.
if they want to take the risk and have sex after that then they are just like junkies who can't get off the stuff they're hooked on or there brain cannot comprehend the concept of future
buddy even animals have a common sense that force them to abandon/kill there kids if the food aren't secure.
animals typically have 6-8 pups per birth kill 2 or 3 if they ever sense the danger of famine on there pups, Hamsters, Cats are just an example.




Thank you uneng!

I don't understand why everyone is angry on me for brining this up, some called me a racist and some think of me as a wealthy person who hate poor, I am poor from a 3rd world live in a 3rd world and probably will die in a 3rd world.
my life and country been ruined because of this and All I ask is to know why they do this.
sometime when you point out about how sick that person is everyone get angry, even if you yourself have the same dieses.


and I say it again, if you need an education to understand a common sense then you aren't a human and you don't deserve the air that you breath because even animals who have 6-8 per single birth will kill 2-3 of there pups if they lack the food or they don't think they can't take care of there pups

In India farmers who are educationally sound are not committing suicide. Only farmers who are not educated enough to understand money management are taking such steps. So putting this thing with the subject of " why poor people always have more kids " is not correct.

I hope you understand. Someone already said .. and i am writing back. Lack of knowledge of Birth Control and concept of every single child means source of earning in near future. In a Poor family Female and Males both are working from the age of 7 or 8.

Why so much hostility against OP on this thread for raising a valid reflexion?

It's in fact a very important subject to be discussed, because it directly impacts the daily reality of many societies.

Poor people need proper education and guidance in order to leave poverty through organizing and managing their lives more efficiently. It's something which takes times, and sometimes several generations to happen, but it's something which must be pointed out, like OP is doing, and discussed.

To avoid it or consider it a forbidden matter, implying he is badmouthing or humiliating poor people means to condemn poor people to misery forever! If you want to change a noxious pattern, you have to point what is wrong with that. That is the first step.

They aren't informed and they lack education about family planning. They're not stupid but they aren't just guided at all. Not every poor person has a lot of kids. I've seen in real life that there are people that are able to sustain their lives and say under the middle class and is an average person but able to sustain the family because of the mindset. The contraceptives that have been there for so long to help unsudden pregnancy is there but as you've said, they're poor and instead of buying those contraceptives, they're going to buy their meal instead.

This is a problem that you can find everywhere. But at least for someone who's informed about unsudden pregnancy attaches new responsibility will have it on their minds that they need to practice safe sex.

Not a new phenomenon but everyone needs to start learning it from the institutions where we're coming from about reproductive health and be open minded about subjects that deals with sexual intercourse.

Your blame is more centered on poor people having more children but that’s not it, even the rich give birth to a lot of children because they feel they can control them and fend for them until they’re of the age of catering for themselves. The problem here is why are people giving birth to more children than what they can be able to handle for themselves? I am from Africa and I have seen a man with more than 200 children and was able to cater for them all, none where nuisance to the society. He was not that super rich but was able to give birth to what he can control and fend for within his means. You can’t stop people from giving birth and where there’s no birth control policy, the result will be more babies in the society. Everyone will love to have a survivor from his gene, will you allow a birth control policy to stop that from happening when it’s your turn to give birth, I think you won’t, so that’s just it.

I think somebody needs to explain to you where babies come from, before you embarrass yourself anymore with this thread.

See, when a man in a country that has no laws protecting women puts his ***** in a woman's ******, even against her will, the result is often pregnancy if she does not legally or economically have access to birth control. If she does not have access to abortion, the result is a baby, whether she wanted one or not.

This situation is very common in less-developed countries and cultures, or highly religions ones.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that you a) live in a middle or upper-class area of the United States; and b) have received no education whatsoever of any other economic or political realm. You should try to education yourself, and when you do, you'll see how much you... probably want to erase this thread and make believe you never said any of it .

yes it dose now, but in specific part of the world.
in India 68% of the population are from the lower cast (Dalit and Sudra) and those too poor that they work 9 hours for there daily bread, yet they still have more kids.
if you need an education to learn a common sense then you aren't a human, basically you are sub-human.
a common sense that tells you when you barely can eat yourself you should not bring a dozen of children, any "human" who dose not have that common sense or need an education to understand it then he dosn't deserve the air that he breath, even animals have that common sense.
each birth of the hamster result of 6-8 pups and look up what the hamster mother will do to her pups if she felt that the food isn't enough for all of them.


How much dose these medication cost usually?
definitely cheaper than raising another kid.


the population in Africa in 1600 was less than 100 million and most Africans didn't know any farming or hording animals or anything really since they didn't need to, everything was on easy mood to them back then as the jungle provide tons of fruit that rote on the ground and there was more Animals than people, so there wasn't any need to learn these thing and yet, there was less than 100 million people live there.
the problem is when you don't have a total control of the idiots and low IQ people in your country because they will always think that things are good because god love them or something, they don't understand anything at all other than the 5 second pleasure of sex, I saw this in my country where the idiots start to have  way more people than the country can handle resulting of increasing of the prices housing and less jobs.
and maintaining a 5 hectare farm is easy if you are hard working man, it doesn't need 100 people to do the entire job I mean look at the Amish and rich farmer in Asia so agriculture isn't an excuse.



yeah, and also everyone need to take responsibility for there actions.
how many cases of domestic violence happened within a poor family this years?
thousands every day.
how many cases of domestic violence happened within a rich family this years?
zero, not even one.
you really think it's easy not to be mentally ill while living in these conditions?



It's unending cycle.
the only way to end it is cutting all type of help to them, sure you will hurt them and there children but at least you will cut the cycle and prevent more people to get hurt.


"a gift of god"
really? then let there god help them take care of there gift.
have you ever heard of a single domestic violence case happened in a rich family? have you ever saw uneducated rich person? have you ever saw unhealthy rich person?
the thing  is when you have "a gift" more than you can get excited about then you need to take full responsibility.
why should I hear the voices of some dump "father" beating his gift of god because he feel that this gift killed his dream of life? why should I live among some mentally ill people who grow up in abusive house?
hell why should I be one of them?
if you believe in god and then you get abandon by him do not go crying and bitching about the prices of everything and how it's hard to take care of your children and then you go ape shit on them creating a traumatic men.
have you ever heard of mentally ill rich person? or a rich person who grow up in abusive house?
weird that not a single rich family had a problem with there "gift" of "god" but they are always poor, and you know the best part about growing up in abusive house? is the generational trauma the cycle will never end and will continue for ever.

if you are poor you should not have more than 2 kids, three at max and that's that
and I don't know about money and position can't buy it, I mean have you ever heard of Epstein? seems like money can buy children after all, even if the reason isn't Innocent.

They are not stupid and stop using that word to such people, children are gift from God, which is the best gift God has given to poor people which money or position cannot buy, because there are some rich people looking for children but they can only give birth to one or two, not that they don't need more than that in the community but they don't have the strength to produce more than that which is the gift God use to blessed the poor.

Not only in Africa this also happens in my country, families that are living in remote areas usually have an average of 6 children and this is due to ignorance, the family tradition that a big family has a good reputation in the community and of course they are hoping that their children will get them out of poverty, its like an endless cycle.
This is not always the case, many couples are now matured and the government are educating them on having a small family, so they can manage the household and the health of all the members of the family.

Both the rich and the poor do give birth to children and this have to do with the desirability of individuals on what they wanted, if we can afford to take good care of having many children, then i dont see anything bad in doing that, but some have said it's more common for the poor people to give birth to many children than the rich one, though this is more of a mentality basis, everyone can have as much as many children they wanted.

You asked a very reasonable question and honestly, it's what has become a norm that most poor people have a greater number of children than their richer counterparts but I must add that the approach you used in making your analysis is quite shallow and not fact-based.

Even though most African countries are underdeveloped and are mostly looked at on the global stage as being dominated by poverty-stricken families, in reality, that's far from what's actually the case. As a core African man who has lived both in the village part of my country and the town, I can boldly say that it's not true that we've witnessed anything close to feminine except in war zones where people can't comfortably go out to carry out their daily hustle.

The mentality of most poor people in the locality is that with more children, you have more hands that can help you on your farm, and that can also help you when you're old and that's the reason why they normally have more children compared to the richer folks.

Religion also plays its own role in this matter cause for some religions, you can marry as many wives as you find comfortable with, and for each of the wives you've married, they will expect to have a child for you and by so doing, you find out that some men might get married to 6 wives and have at least 3 kids from each of them. For this scenario, you can't say it's about wealth cause most of the people who marry too many wives are mostly traditional people who aren't rich in Their context.
Individuals' projection of the future varies and while some will dime it fit that they will only give birth to children they can feed and take care of their education, others might term it a thing of pride that they have so many children who will grow up to take care of them in the future.

Again another factor that even plays a greater role could be education and for most cases, educated people tend to have a lesser number of children than uneducated ones due to their general perception of a child's training.

There are more than a thousand and one reasons why people decide to have more children and poverty is just one of them.

I beg to differ and I want to say this thinking is not correct forever, not only before or after 2000s.

If you are poor, you and your family are more probably have bad financial status that makes it's harder to nurture your children and more troubles to provide them good chance in education.

Nurturing children is more easily than educating them but even the easier part, nurturing children is already problem with poor family. If they care about their children, future of children, they will not let their sexual demand to affect their children future and will self-limit total children they want to have. There are many ways for family planning and parents only need to have right attitude to do that properly.

From the conclusion, poor people have lots of children because they don't plan their births and don't have much money to buy medication to delay pregnancy, and it's clear that it's very difficult for them to eat, let alone think about other things, and indeed it's a difficult process at the moment to prevent it.

I think this colouration is changing and I have heard more people, people of less classes in the society discuss the need to bear few children and the singles too are having change of mind. To prove that the numbers are beginning to reduce, if you go to African wedding especially that of Nigeria, during the reception when the MC ask the celebrants how many children they would like to have, they usually say 2 to 4 children especially 3/4 children and not up to 5 except on rare occasions where they would say the 5th may be the one of " mistake ".

So I think education is what has caused this paradigm shift. More lower class people are getting educated lately and they are being knowledgeable and also trying to lessen the burden of training plenty children to fewer children and having comfort and living a comfortable live for themselves and children. All of those where never in the picture in the past as they never matter in the scheme of things in the old days. There is shift in the way things are done now in terms of family live.

Because they are uneducated.

that's the point that can apply on any nation that has more people than it can handle, keep giving them until they think it's there god giving right to get free stuff from you or the government or anyone really.

"economic pressures"
so if I am poor and miserable and barely feed myself I should have 10 kids so the pressures get lighting?
it's basically stupidity and dependency, I just noticed that all poor are religious, they simply believe there god will not abandon them and they will have as many kids as they want and then they will ask everyone else to take responsibility for there actions.




Having a family is the way to happens once you fail to achieve what you were desire the most and that's for smart and average people, not for stupid people.
and I don't think they have family because the pressure of society I think they have it because they want to have sex and clean house.
some time I wish Eugenics get applied in my country even tho I know that they will probably Sterilize me the first lol

Yep, I believe not all people can be in relationship, but the pressure from society makes them force themselves to have a relationship and giving a birth. That's why these poor people will not learn since they're childish adults aka grown up people but act like children and don't have a mentality to take responsibility.

Having a family isn't the only way to find happiness, happiness starts from yourself. You live alone, you die alone.

Limited access to education, healthcare, cultural beliefs, economic pressures & lack of family planning awareness (contraception) contribute to higher birth rates among the poor.

The point is precisely in agriculture, or more precisely in the agrarian mentality of people living in rapidly growing countries. Even when such people migrate en masse to a more developed country, they take their agrarian mentality with them.

ps Starving Africans are more of a meme. Not in the sense that they do not exist, but in the sense that humanitarian aid perpetuates in them the syndrome of learned helplessness, and then they can no longer live independently without hope of humanitarian aid.

in 1600 the population was less than 100 million and they never had any famine.
so it's not about birth control

that's a thought, you think if poor people get access to game set they will stop this?



No, the solution is what China did to there people.
in the 1600 African population was less than 100 million and till 1900 the entire Indian raj (India Pakistan bangladesh maynamer) didn't pass 250 million and today they make up 25% of earth's population.
oh and women didn't have a choice back then.


Just want it to ask here since all of these topic on the internet didn't convince me
See my replay to legiteum


so Africans have famine even tho they farm?
most of the humanitarian aid go the desert, where they can't farm.

also every single minute 3 Indian farmers commit suicide  do to there life conditions, by the time 4320 every day so it's not about the farming,

In poor countries, more people live in subsistence farming and the overall economy is predominantly agrarian. In such conditions, every child in the family is an additional assistant and an extra pair of working hands from childhood. That is, many children here are not a burden, but a family asset.

As the country develops, more people live in cities and a child turns from a family asset into an expensive and long-term project, so in developed countries it is normal to have one, maximum two children in a family.

I am not even sure why you should bother to ask here, by the way, I think there are many scientific studies out there on the internet about this matter and they gets to almost the same conclusions.
Women in under-developed countries do not have access to both sexual education nor birth control pills, so it is more likely for them to have an unwanted pregnancy. Also, having more children in a underdeveloped country can be helpful to face hardships, specially in the children grow up to become healthy men, so they can contribute to society and bring back some some money and food to sustain the household. There is a good reason in under-developed countries family members live close to one another, you know. So they can band together to survive.

Not even mention the social pressure many women have to build a family at certain age...

Because women in these countries don't have access to birth control, and/or it is banned in their country.

If you simply look at the data and the evidence, you will see that women usually do not voluntarily have a lot of children, as a tendency. High numbers of children almost always coincide with women who are essentially forced to become pregnant and force to carry the pregnancy to term, either through the law, their religion, or tribal traditions--or any combination therein.

Women who are given a choice almost never have more children than they can afford. The solution is to give women choices.

Why poor people always have more kids?


When you don't spend time making money, what else is there to do that is more fun than making kids?

The reason in Africa region most people give birth to many children is  because they lack the knowledge of birth control, in most Africa countries they do not encourage people to give birth to the number of kids they can afford to take care of. One of the things that can reduce the number of population is if the government encourages parents to have the understanding of birth control, this will really help in decreasing the population in a short time.
In developed world that population is very low they are able to control their population because birth control is something everyone is aware of and know how to apply it.

First of all I am poor, and from a 3rd world as well.
we aren't plant pro, deprivation of basics to us often mean producing more crimes and drug addicted useless junkies.
the surviving mechanism of humans is forcing them to create more children if they sense the feeling of Extinction or the death of there bloodline, but that only when the danger is physical, only when there is a war.
when you live in a famine and barely eat your self then you should never have more than one child, two as max.
but having more than two means that you are stupid and give a great hint why you have a famine or your country is hell hole.
my family been poor for at least 4 generations and a wise man once told me that just because you're poor doesn't mean you have to be dirty, you can be poor and clean and you can also be poor and healthy.
and I say that there is no reason to be poor and self-loathing narcissist, if you can't live in high standers then simply don't have kids or have one or two, not a dozen.
notice how poor countries don't create anything at all, they rarely invent new things or having an intelligent people who create new things and even when they have you gonna see those intelligent people leaving these countries at the first chance they got, notice how poor countries dose not produce anything aside form physical work, notice how China rising as super power have a strong synchronization with the population drop.
that's my point.


More children mean more responsibility and more mouths to feed, having more kids than your ability to feed or taking care of them means that you are a sub-human as you had them just because you wanted the 5 second pleasure.
and as for "religion" those people have kids because they are certain that there god will not abandon them, once they discover how stupid they are they won't admit there fault instead they will ask others to take responsibility for what they have done, they will ask for free stuff from the government and from hard working people who take responsibility for their actions.
you know what I noticed? I noticed that when you take responsibility for there action they will never learn, they will do the same mistake and there children will also do the same mistake as apple don't fall far from the tree and the cycle continue for ever.
If I ever happened to be a president for some country then I will create a support system that give each citizen 96 monthly paid check, those check can cashed once a month if the person don't work or have some injures that prevent him from working, that 8 years of help.
then I will ban all other help including charity of all kinds, if 8 years of help isn't enough for them then let them die of hunger.
giving them free education and health care and benefit meaning that you encourage them not to have any responsibility towards there actions.

There's quotes "More child, many fortunes".

But, it was correct before 2000's, now having many child is really a disastrous because life getting hard.

Yeah you're correct, I don't understand why majority of poor people choose to make many babies, although we can't really blame them since they think happiness doesn't come from money, it's come from religion and family interaction.

You are stupid.

If you are going to talk about poor people, wash your mouth before opening it.

For your information, what poor people do is no different from what is observed in nature. A plant or tree that goes through more deprivation produces more offspring, it's the way it tries to pass on its genes to the next generation. For example, a lemon tree that has suffered from a lack of water throughout the year will produce many more seeds than a lemon tree that has had a constant flow of water, with drip irrigation, for example.

But you think you are so clever with your mathematics and you can't see this basic fact.

Sub-saharan Africa population is 1.3 billion
India population is 1.4 billion
Pakistan population is 261 million
Bangladesh population is 165 million

more than 37.5% of earth's population live in places so poor to the point of famine or to the point of no sanitation or both.
literally one of each three people on this earth live in places and conditions that barely suite animals and yet this 1/3 still have dozen of children.
why dose poor people always have 5x time the children of wealthy people?
what make Africans have on average 8 kids while living in literal famine?

this question have always bugged me, why they do this?!
is it stupidity or they simply don't care about there own children to the point of willing to bringing them to a life of suffer for 50 years just so they can have 5 second pleasure?
do there brains cannot comprehend future or something? are they that stupid?
or it's a case of self-loathing as they want there descended to suffer just like them, or perhaps it is Narcissism?
I really can't figure out the answer for this!
every poor man I know has 5-6 kids, also every single rich person I know have 2-3 kids.

and this isn't a new phenomenon or something no that was going for at least thousand of year so why is that?
what make those people do this?!