Topic: Why should "migrants" integrate? (Read 2453 times)

Thanks! It makes sense


Consensus on what?

Minorities always suffer in society. Is it not better to have consensus? to have one nation under one flag?
I don't think separation of citizens is a good thing. (Armenian genocide in Turkey, Jewish genocide in Germany).

Arriving in a foreign country immigrant agrees that it accepts the values existing in this country. If he comes in and imposes its own rules that is the occupier.

My opinion is - do not put a person to forget their traditions and customs. We need to respect and support no matter where you live. But try not to infringe on the rights and interests of others

Question: what happen to some one doing a fgm in China? Or a forced wedding? Or sexual behavior with children? Or use segregated account money?

There are incompatiblities between culture!!!

In my opinion, migrants should not only integrate, its just essential and important for them to just integrate because you as a migrant is coming to a new environment which is different from your own origin or believe. Their own way of life is also different at the same time their moral value is equally  and certainly different so if a migrant wants to live in that situation, its just important for integration or else he will be labelled as a deviant.

+ massive immigration to build the western gate way to the Silk Road... hehehe. All attempt at imposing what ever over china will be crushed.

This can be a good model of integration. However, we all know that the Chinese government is imposing control especially in the past and that can be a big reason why the integration is successful. I think the government here is not letting the Muslim population get out of bounds plus it can be giving some necessary attention to the populace so they are eking a living peacefully.

If there are no backlash... cultural Darwinism... asks the yazidis about their proud culture... most of their women have been enslaved (which means social exclusion).

They want to make you believe the world is lawfull... rememebr the husband of the next president raped children.

You have difficulty to conceptualize violence. Absolutely pussified. Woman matrix force them to renounce violence to adapt faster to their new masters.

Are you for real? So where ever you are from, you would think is ok for foreigners to go there and push their customs on to your countries culture? Of is it only if it's customs that you believe in that should be pushed?

Grrr!!! Why can't you believe me... Integration is for the weak! You know veni, vidi, vinci! Or rephrased I came to your country, I saw you as a bunch of pussified men, I defeated you and impose my culture on you (or killed you).

Now what was yours is mine!

Take for example the conquest of America by the Muslim brotherhood... look the natives in Egypt killed them.


No are you fucking crazy? No one will force you to eat anything in China! There is enough kind of food for one new meal for the rest of your entire life... however you will not invite yourself in China... illegal domestic migrants are on things... foreigners (ahaha).


It's true that for civilized people the difference is quite small... it's funny that you put integrate before the law. What I don't understand is people who leave their country of birth with no intention to return but still live in its cultural sphere in a foreign country.



Lol the dalalylama got you... the king of the tibetans was always under Chinese mgmt. he always knew where the power was. However I don't think he spoke to you about how the relation between women and the dalailama was... but in all event this territory control a large flow of the water of China. As such no foreigner will control it. This is part of the red line of China... and if it means 20 millions death on the Chinese side, go. But rest assured there will be no enemies left.

If You goes to China, do You will eat dog and cat meat to be integrated?
Why people from outside China or Corea give unwanted lessons about what to eat and what to eat not for a chinese?

If migrants want to live in that country, they have to integrate and respect local laws, people and etc. But on the other hand they have to protect their national identity, traditions, but it shouldn't be against local laws.

You just dont hear it because their problems with buddhist monks in tibet, christians and falun gong members in mainland china are overshadowing it.

The sarcasam is strong with this op.

I do not immigrants. But if I come to a foreign country, it would not impose the public traditions. I would be grateful that I took a foreign country and tried to not to offend anyone

"Hui" is not a surname. It is the name of the ethnic group. The most common surnames for Hui people are Ma, Mu, Ha, Sai, Sha.etc. China knows how to integrate its Muslim population. There have been very few incidents of Islamic terror in mainland China, and the Muslim population there is stable for the last many decades.

Every chinese with name Hui is muslim. (In Russian it mean Dick)

Like here?



 

That depends upon the level of education of the immigrants. Unfortunately, countries such as the UK and the US prefer uneducated and often illiterate immigrants from the third world countries. These immigrants are not very interested in integrating with the majority population, and tend to live in ghettos predominantly populated by their own ethnic group.

Ohh, that is about You need to integrate in Sharia Law.
You need be elastic.

Why generalize. There are normal migrants, who do not become criminals, and not try to impose their own traditions to local residents.

I call it bullshit because in every single of the above named nations alien criminals live and do criminal activities (especially russian mafia).

If there is a need to respect the local customs and traditions, then the migrants will respect them. Examples are countries such as Russia, Qatar, and Japan. On the other hand, in countries such as the United States, Canada and the United Kingdom, the migrants don't feel like they need to respect the local customs and traditions.

Not at all sarcastic. Sorry. So you aren't not only a cultural relativist but a believer in a western cultural supremacy with you as its central referal center. Are you gonna ban fgm or abortion?

The adoption of free will and informed consent excludes a lot of culture by definition. Those have the choice to perish (assimilate) or fight (and perish).

The thieves can't survive among the merchants.

Agree, by integrating they should respect their host county and following its laws and observed its customs. In that way a conflict is avoided. In the first place, a host country is living peacefully until the migrants are introduced.

It is precisely for each country and culture of migrants - is the risk. And if they come to a foreign country, they should respect the local traditions and people. If they do not like - let them go home, because they are not forced to live in a foreign country

Why should anyone accept migrants? Countries in the Middle East and the Sub Saharan Africa must practice family planning and stop dumping their excess population elsewhere.

You're obviously being sarcastic. People have different ways of doing things that seems completely normal, and that will aways create conflict when forced to live with each other. The only way it wouldn't be a problem is if more people were concerned with others and their feelings.

What does it even means to "integrate"? And why should they? Why not impose their cultures, values and way of life on their hosts?