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Topic: Why the price of bitcoin is falling? (Read 1313 times)

legendary
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Satoshi is rolling in his grave. #bitcoin
August 14, 2014, 02:07:24 PM
#14
A few quick reasons that I can give you as to why.

Most people still find it hard to use a computer let along Bitcoin. Just talking to some of those in their 40s and some of them either A) Don't use the computer for anything but work or B) Most find it too much of a trouble to try to buy it.

Granted, these people struggle to understand much about the Internet like why https is better or that Google isn't the only website in the world. They may see that credit cards and ACH bank transfers are all they need, and don't understand why you would buy Bitcoin to make transactions just for 2% (YMMV) savings. I think it comes down to a lack of education.

This in turn leads to less adoption by outsiders. I've had people ask me about Bitcoin or the basics and they are in their mid 20s or early 30s. Some want to learn more, but tend not to find the resources available for their questions. I recently pointed someone to the Coindesk beginners guide since they seemed to not know much about Bitcoins, and had a thinking that it was like "Bean babies" or "tulips." As if you can transfer tulips with great ease and little fees.

Then you have your extremists. I've dealt with these on Twitter and Godlikeproductions a few times before. They are the ones always shouting "ponzi scheme" and talk about how we are all in it for ourselves. Kind of hard to quantify Bitcoin as a ponzi since there is no central authority in a decentralized coin. Unlike the dollar which is printed at will by the Federal Reserve.

Any analysis is pure speculation, and that is the only reason you can make a profit on trading.
When everyone is expecting for bitcoin to go up, but there is no undeniable support to stop it from plummeting when someone drops considerable amount,
it is a gateway for large holders to manipulate by dumping, and rebuying in the resulting panic selloff.

The way i see it 90% of the market change is manipulated, and the safest bet is only long term holding.
legendary
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August 14, 2014, 01:42:37 PM
#13
i don't think it's really, falling, more like a little swing due to august

Or should I perhaps rephrase it? Why it is not rising as we expect it to? They say the latest price fall is due to US regulators discouraging public from using bitcoin. Maybe. But the more fundamental question in my opinion is: why the price did not really bounce back to $1000 range yet? Would it do that any time soon or would we see $200-$300 range instead? Please feel free to share your thoughts on the matter.

might take years for 1000$

not sure, on 2016 something will happen guaranteed , because of the block halving
newbie
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August 14, 2014, 01:21:50 PM
#12
A few quick reasons that I can give you as to why.

Most people still find it hard to use a computer let along Bitcoin. Just talking to some of those in their 40s and some of them either A) Don't use the computer for anything but work or B) Most find it too much of a trouble to try to buy it.

Granted, these people struggle to understand much about the Internet like why https is better or that Google isn't the only website in the world. They may see that credit cards and ACH bank transfers are all they need, and don't understand why you would buy Bitcoin to make transactions just for 2% (YMMV) savings. I think it comes down to a lack of education.

This in turn leads to less adoption by outsiders. I've had people ask me about Bitcoin or the basics and they are in their mid 20s or early 30s. Some want to learn more, but tend not to find the resources available for their questions. I recently pointed someone to the Coindesk beginners guide since they seemed to not know much about Bitcoins, and had a thinking that it was like "Bean babies" or "tulips." As if you can transfer tulips with great ease and little fees.

Then you have your extremists. I've dealt with these on Twitter and Godlikeproductions a few times before. They are the ones always shouting "ponzi scheme" and talk about how we are all in it for ourselves. Kind of hard to quantify Bitcoin as a ponzi since there is no central authority in a decentralized coin. Unlike the dollar which is printed at will by the Federal Reserve.
legendary
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August 14, 2014, 12:40:53 PM
#11
In a word BitLicense.  It's the death-knell for bitcoin in the US if it passes and I suspect if it does we will definitely see the $200-$300 range again by the end of the year sadly.

Bitstamp switching bank's isn't helping matters much either atm.

The US are not the only market out there. {Yes it's huge} but there are still other huge markets out there, that are virtually untapped and much bigger. {India / China / Africa}

Just because the US dominated the fiat domain, with the dollar, does not mean, that they dominate BTC too.

Some of the other European markets can shift the price, if they decide to replace their De-facto fiat currencies.

The US will have a huge impact, but it's not the end of BTC by far. {The dollar has been artificially inflated anyways} They printing way more than what is needed anyways.  {This is why most of us, are supporting BTC}
member
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August 14, 2014, 12:29:48 PM
#10
In a word BitLicense.  It's the death-knell for bitcoin in the US if it passes and I suspect if it does we will definitely see the $200-$300 range again by the end of the year sadly.

Bitstamp switching bank's isn't helping matters much either atm.

When is the closing date for giving bitlicense feedback?
legendary
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Well hello there!
August 14, 2014, 12:24:21 PM
#9
In a word BitLicense.  It's the death-knell for bitcoin in the US if it passes and I suspect if it does we will definitely see the $200-$300 range again by the end of the year sadly.

Bitstamp switching bank's isn't helping matters much either atm.
legendary
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August 14, 2014, 12:23:28 PM
#8
Combine that with Dell, and you have a significant amount of coins, going through exchanges on a daily basis.   

I'd advise caution in assuming that all coins sent through overstock or dell are making to the exchanges.
legendary
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August 14, 2014, 12:18:01 PM
#7
I think Dell should be approached, to see what their sales figures in BTC was since it's adoption.

It would give us some idea, where we stand on big companies influence, when they adopt the currency.

If loads of hoarders started to buy small things at Dell, it would show this kind of behavior in the price. {More coins put back onto exchanges, than that is demand for}

It's the only thing, I can think of, that may cause this.

We not seeing huge whale dumps, so it must be a higher volume of constant smaller transactions.

Well that is what I am thinking. {Between the two big players Overstock and Dell, things are happening now}

Without concrete figures from Dell, it's just speculation. {Overstock made their sales figures public --> $300,0000 per month}

Combine that with Dell, and you have a significant amount of coins, going through exchanges on a daily basis.  

See latest charts --> https://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions
member
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August 14, 2014, 11:48:34 AM
#6
goxed
51% pool (easy came easy gone easy return)
crackers and governments and shit having 1200k coins(mtgox 200k, Ross Ulbricht 140k, crackers: 850k)
no new money
governments warning and banning
scam IPOs
everyone is selling / spending
Dell / Expedia / Newegg / House dealer / etc are selling in real time
etc..
legendary
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Bitcoin / Crypto mining Hardware.
August 14, 2014, 11:44:27 AM
#5
according to the following: `margin calls'
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8177914
legendary
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August 14, 2014, 11:43:57 AM
#4
Why the price did not really bounce back to $1000 range yet?

Are you serious?  China was a big part, but did you forget about that whole Mt. Gox thing?
legendary
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August 14, 2014, 11:35:24 AM
#3
Or should I perhaps rephrase it? Why it is not rising as we expect it to? They say the latest price fall is due to US regulators discouraging public from using bitcoin. Maybe. But the more fundamental question in my opinion is: why the price did not really bounce back to $1000 range yet? Would it do that any time soon or would we see $200-$300 range instead? Please feel free to share your thoughts on the matter.

might take years for 1000$
hero member
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August 13, 2014, 09:03:39 AM
#2
Or should I perhaps rephrase it? Why it is not rising as we expect it to? They say the latest price fall is due to US regulators discouraging public from using bitcoin. Maybe. But the more fundamental question in my opinion is: why the price did not really bounce back to $1000 range yet? Would it do that any time soon or would we see $200-$300 range instead? Please feel free to share your thoughts on the matter.

it think that there are many reasons, not only one. All this reasons have made the market (for all this year, i'm afraid) not ready to an other jump.

I also think that time of the big rise is over Sad
full member
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August 13, 2014, 08:08:24 AM
#1
Or should I perhaps rephrase it? Why it is not rising as we expect it to? They say the latest price fall is due to US regulators discouraging public from using bitcoin. Maybe. But the more fundamental question in my opinion is: why the price did not really bounce back to $1000 range yet? Would it do that any time soon or would we see $200-$300 range instead? Please feel free to share your thoughts on the matter.
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