Why won't Pelosi let the HOUSE VOTE for an impeachment inquiry?

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Where did I call anyone hypocritical?

Well, now you've called me a hypocrite twice.

How pathetic and predictable.

What it demonstrates is that you are completely full of shit. Everything you say is covered in fecal material. Just because you can't smell your own shitty breath doesn't mean everybody else can't.

I'm pretty sure I am looking here at both sides of an argument losing the argument.

And this is exactly what the intent of accusing your opponent of what you yourself are guilty of is, to create this false equivalence and brute force the facts away in a deluge of bullshit. It is a classic double bind. You either defend yourself and contribute to the confusion, or you refuse to defend yourself and appear guilty of the accusation.

"Schiff: Public Has No Right To Observe Impeachment Inquiry...Then Kicks GOP Lawmaker Out"

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Quote from: nutildah on October 11, 2019, 10:12:38 AM

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Where did I call anyone hypocritical?

Well, now you've called me a hypocrite twice.

How pathetic and predictable.

What it demonstrates is that you are completely full of shit. Everything you say is covered in fecal material. Just because you can't smell your own shitty breath doesn't mean everybody else can't.

I'm pretty sure I am looking here at both sides of an argument losing the argument.

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Quote from: TECSHARE on October 11, 2019, 03:00:16 AM

Where did I call anyone hypocritical?

Well, now you've called me a hypocrite twice.

How pathetic and predictable.

What it demonstrates is that you are completely full of shit. Everything you say is covered in fecal material. Just because you can't smell your own shitty breath doesn't mean everybody else can't.

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Quote from: TECSHARE on October 11, 2019, 03:00:16 AM

Where did I call anyone hypocritical?

Well, now you've called me a hypocrite twice.

How pathetic and predictable.

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Quote from: TECSHARE on October 11, 2019, 03:00:16 AM

Where did I call anyone hypocritical?

Well, now you've called me a hypocrite twice.

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Quote from: TECSHARE on October 11, 2019, 03:00:16 AM

Where did I call anyone hypocritical? Please quote.

OK, for starters:

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Thanks for proving my point Democrats love accusing their opponents of what they themselves are guilty of.

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(crickets)

Good, I'm glad you're satisfied with this example and I don't have to compile all the instances of you calling people a hypocrite in the past, that would take weeks.

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PS: I'm not a Democrat.

No, of course not. You just support all of their policy positions, share the same sophist tactics, and have Trump Derangement Syndrome. Nice save.

I support all of their policy positions?? Wow, project much? Of course not. Only others do that. Just like how only other people can be hypocritical. There's no way you could be these things. Roll Eyes

You should have realized you weren't perfect when you got excluded from DT 4 and a half years ago. Your unwavering approach of never admitting error or exhibiting the slightest trace of humility hasn't exactly paid off since then.

Whatever you need to invent to distract from the fact I never called anyone a hypocrite in this thread. Since we are now bringing unrelated forum issues into this and talking about hypocrisy...

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But this is obfuscated by the fact that most people don't know that they are reading the words of a bought account. There is no honesty or redeemable qualities in your arguments, you're simply trying to defend borderline evil behavior for your own selfish financial reasons.

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Not everyone is hypocritical, just a small group of people including you.

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Quote from: nutildah on October 11, 2019, 04:34:09 AM

Quote from: TECSHARE on October 11, 2019, 03:00:16 AM

Where did I call anyone hypocritical? Please quote.

OK, for starters:

Quote from: TECSHARE on October 11, 2019, 03:00:16 AM

Thanks for proving my point Democrats love accusing their opponents of what they themselves are guilty of.

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(crickets)

Good, I'm glad you're satisfied with this example and I don't have to compile all the instances of you calling people a hypocrite in the past, that would take weeks.

Quote from: TECSHARE on October 11, 2019, 06:22:48 AM

Quote from: nutildah on October 11, 2019, 04:34:09 AM

PS: I'm not a Democrat.

No, of course not. You just support all of their policy positions, share the same sophist tactics, and have Trump Derangement Syndrome. Nice save.

I support all of their policy positions?? Wow, project much? Of course not. Only others do that. Just like how only other people can be hypocritical. There's no way you could be these things. Roll Eyes

You should have realized you weren't perfect when you got excluded from DT 4 and a half years ago. Your unwavering approach of never admitting error or exhibiting the slightest trace of humility hasn't exactly paid off since then.

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Quote from: nutildah on October 11, 2019, 04:34:09 AM

PS: I'm not a Democrat.

No, of course not. You just support all of their policy positions, share the same sophist tactics, and have Trump Derangement Syndrome. Nice save.

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Seriously. Imagine what you would think and say if this email was actually about Biden and his son.

Calling everyone a hypocrite is TS's go-to move. It somehow magically eradicates all the evidence of his own hypocrisy. So long as he can still type that word on a keyboard, the irony will be lost on him.

Where did I call anyone hypocritical? Please quote.

OK, for starters:

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Thanks for proving my point Democrats love accusing their opponents of what they themselves are guilty of.

PS: I'm not a Democrat.

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And I am trying to get you to understand that the dems accuse their opponents of the crimes they themselves are guilty of, and of course anyone critical of them would appear hypocritical to people who believe them, that is the point of doing it.

And I"m trying to convince you both sides are guilty of the same thing. Calling one out but not the other is hypocritical.

"Omg, Bidens son is doing something shady in another country with the help of his father to make money!"

"Omg, Trumps son is doing something shady in another country with the help of his father to make money!"

They're both true.

Cool story bro.

"MORE Documents Implicate Joe Biden in Ukraine"

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And I am trying to get you to understand that the dems accuse their opponents of the crimes they themselves are guilty of, and of course anyone critical of them would appear hypocritical to people who believe them, that is the point of doing it.

And I"m trying to convince you both sides are guilty of the same thing. Calling one out but not the other is hypocritical.

"Omg, Bidens son is doing something shady in another country with the help of his father to make money!"

"Omg, Trumps son is doing something shady in another country with the help of his father to make money!"

They're both true.

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Quote from: TwitchySeal on October 11, 2019, 02:24:55 AM

Seriously. Imagine what you would think and say if this email was actually about Biden and his son.

Calling everyone a hypocrite is TS's go-to move. It somehow magically eradicates all the evidence of his own hypocrisy. So long as he can still type that word on a keyboard, the irony will be lost on him.

Where did I call anyone hypocritical? Please quote. Thanks for proving my point Democrats love accusing their opponents of what they themselves are guilty of.

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Quote from: TwitchySeal on October 11, 2019, 02:24:55 AM

Seriously. Imagine what you would think and say if this email was actually about Biden and his son.

Calling everyone a hypocrite is TS's go-to move. It somehow magically eradicates all the evidence of his own hypocrisy. So long as he can still type that word on a keyboard, the irony will be lost on him.

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Quote from: TwitchySeal on October 11, 2019, 02:24:55 AM

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And I am trying to get you to understand that the dems accuse their opponents of the crimes they themselves are guilty of, and of course anyone critical of them would appear hypocritical to people who believe them, that is the point of doing it.

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Like I was saying, they are boxed in...

"Joe And Hunter Biden Could Be Forced To Testify During Trump Impeachment Trial"

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/oct/7/joe-biden-hunter-biden-could-be-forced-testify-don/

What do you think should happen to them if they get subpoenaed and refuse?

Charged with obstruction or contempt hopefully imo. They'd also look guilty as hell right?

It's cute when you think you are being clever. I will answer yes, then you will try to tell me that Trump/Giuliani/the Ukrainian ambassador are refusing a subpoena, and you go "AHA! GOTCHA!". Only one minor problem with your narrative there cupcake. The dems can't issue any legally binding subpoenas until the impeachment process officially begins, but they sure as fuck will pretend to do so, knowing full well obedient lapdogs in the media will report it as fact, and NPCs such as yourself will regurgitate what the idiot box tells them it as if it was fact. Try again.

I'm trying to get you to realize how hypocritical you are being.

It's like anything Trump, or anyone who supports Trump does is brilliant and anything the Dems do is fucking awful.

If someone says something negative about the Dems, you will eat it up and shit it out all over the internet to whoever will listen.

Same goes with anything good for Trump and his friends.

Imagine how giddy you would get if Hannity suddenly came up with this email:

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To: Hunter Biden

Good morning

Emin just called and asked me to contact you with something very interesting.

The Crown prosecutor of Ukraine met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Biden campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Trump and his dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.

This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Ukraine and its government's support for Mr. Biden - helped along by Aras and Emin.

What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?

I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first.

Hi,

Thanks I appreciate that. I am on the road at the moment but perhaps I just speak to Emin first. Seems we have some time and if it's what you say I love it. Could we do a call first thing next week when I am back?

Best,

Hunter

Seriously. Imagine what you would think and say if this email was actually about Biden and his son.

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Quote from: TwitchySeal on October 11, 2019, 01:32:27 AM

Quote from: TECSHARE on October 11, 2019, 12:28:06 AM

Like I was saying, they are boxed in...

"Joe And Hunter Biden Could Be Forced To Testify During Trump Impeachment Trial"

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/oct/7/joe-biden-hunter-biden-could-be-forced-testify-don/

What do you think should happen to them if they get subpoenaed and refuse?

Charged with obstruction or contempt hopefully imo. They'd also look guilty as hell right?

It's cute when you think you are being clever. I will answer yes, then you will try to tell me that Trump/Giuliani/the Ukrainian ambassador are refusing a subpoena, and you go "AHA! GOTCHA!". Only one minor problem with your narrative there cupcake. The dems can't issue any legally binding subpoenas until the impeachment process officially begins, but they sure as fuck will pretend to do so, knowing full well obedient lapdogs in the media will report it as fact, and NPCs such as yourself will regurgitate what the idiot box tells them it as if it was fact. Try again.

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Quote from: TECSHARE on October 11, 2019, 12:28:06 AM

Like I was saying, they are boxed in...

"Joe And Hunter Biden Could Be Forced To Testify During Trump Impeachment Trial"

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/oct/7/joe-biden-hunter-biden-could-be-forced-testify-don/

What do you think should happen to them if they get subpoenaed and refuse?

Charged with obstruction or contempt hopefully imo. They'd also look guilty as hell right?

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Like I was saying, they are boxed in...

"Joe And Hunter Biden Could Be Forced To Testify During Trump Impeachment Trial"

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/oct/7/joe-biden-hunter-biden-could-be-forced-testify-don/

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Quote from: TwitchySeal on October 08, 2019, 10:14:57 PM

Can we agree that completing the hearing before Christmas would be a substantial political win for the Dems? I'm not saying impeachment will be successful or even a win for the dems. Just that having Trump impeached and waiting trial the longer the better for them.

One way they could slow the whole process down is by convincing Pelosi to call for a house vote. If that were to happen, they would have a bunch of chances to slow the vote down.

As soon as the house investigation is over, I expect them to switch again. The GOP will want the trial to happen ASAP and the dems will be dragging their feet.

It doesn't matter what they do, the dems are painted into a corner. There is no winning move for them. If they impeach, Republicans can bring their own evidence via subpoenas devastating the dems. If they don't impeach, they piss off their base. If they continue with this impeachment theater they piss everyone off.

Wow.

So I guess it's all over then. Thanks for letting me know.

Are there any other major historical events coming up that you already know the outcome to? Would definitely appreciate the heads up.

No problem. Sure, A lot of current and former high ranking US government officials will be prosecuted for serious corruption and possibly treason. Also the US will make an agreement with North Korea shortly. Enjoy the show.

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Quote from: TwitchySeal on October 08, 2019, 10:14:57 PM

Can we agree that completing the hearing before Christmas would be a substantial political win for the Dems? I'm not saying impeachment will be successful or even a win for the dems. Just that having Trump impeached and waiting trial the longer the better for them.

One way they could slow the whole process down is by convincing Pelosi to call for a house vote. If that were to happen, they would have a bunch of chances to slow the vote down.

As soon as the house investigation is over, I expect them to switch again. The GOP will want the trial to happen ASAP and the dems will be dragging their feet.

It doesn't matter what they do, the dems are painted into a corner. There is no winning move for them. If they impeach, Republicans can bring their own evidence via subpoenas devastating the dems. If they don't impeach, they piss off their base. If they continue with this impeachment theater they piss everyone off.

Wow.

So I guess it's all over then. Thanks for letting me know.

Are there any other major historical events coming up that you already know the outcome to? Would definitely appreciate the heads up.

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Quote from: TwitchySeal on October 08, 2019, 10:14:57 PM

Can we agree that completing the hearing before Christmas would be a substantial political win for the Dems? I'm not saying impeachment will be successful or even a win for the dems. Just that having Trump impeached and waiting trial the longer the better for them.

One way they could slow the whole process down is by convincing Pelosi to call for a house vote. If that were to happen, they would have a bunch of chances to slow the vote down.

As soon as the house investigation is over, I expect them to switch again. The GOP will want the trial to happen ASAP and the dems will be dragging their feet.

It doesn't matter what they do, the dems are painted into a corner. There is no winning move for them. If they impeach, Republicans can bring their own evidence via subpoenas devastating the dems. If they don't impeach, they piss off their base. If they continue with this impeachment theater they piss everyone off.

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She can't allow an actual vote on impeachment, because that would mean she is bound by house rules allowing Republicans to issue subpoenas, which she knows is the end of the Democrat party as we know it. That's why she is beating a dead horse in "pretending to impeach but not actually impeaching" land. They are boxed in, there is no good move for them now.

At this point I think things have swapped. Dems are now speeding to get the investigation going asap and GOP are doing whatever they can to slow it down since right before Christmas would be the ideal time for the Democrats to have the Investigation completed.

It's like an Impeachment Tango.

Nope. They can start official proceedings at any time. The GOP can't prevent it from starting they can only prevent it from being completed.

Can we agree that completing the hearing before Christmas would be a substantial political win for the Dems? I'm not saying impeachment will be successful or even a win for the dems. Just that having Trump impeached and waiting trial the longer the better for them.

One way they could slow the whole process down is by convincing Pelosi to call for a house vote. If that were to happen, they would have a bunch of chances to slow the vote down.

As soon as the house investigation is over, I expect them to switch again. The GOP will want the trial to happen ASAP and the dems will be dragging their feet.

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She can't allow an actual vote on impeachment, because that would mean she is bound by house rules allowing Republicans to issue subpoenas, which she knows is the end of the Democrat party as we know it. That's why she is beating a dead horse in "pretending to impeach but not actually impeaching" land. They are boxed in, there is no good move for them now.

At this point I think things have swapped. Dems are now speeding to get the investigation going asap and GOP are doing whatever they can to slow it down since right before Christmas would be the ideal time for the Democrats to have the Investigation completed.

It's like an Impeachment Tango.

Nope. They can start official proceedings at any time. The GOP can't prevent it from starting they can only prevent it from being completed.

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Quote from: TECSHARE on October 08, 2019, 08:33:27 PM

She can't allow an actual vote on impeachment, because that would mean she is bound by house rules allowing Republicans to issue subpoenas, which she knows is the end of the Democrat party as we know it. That's why she is beating a dead horse in "pretending to impeach but not actually impeaching" land. They are boxed in, there is no good move for them now.

At this point I think things have swapped. Dems are now speeding to get the investigation going asap and GOP are doing whatever they can to slow it down since right before Christmas would be the ideal time for the Democrats to have the Investigation completed.

It's like an Impeachment Tango.

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She can't allow an actual vote on impeachment, because that would mean she is bound by house rules allowing Republicans to issue subpoenas, which she knows is the end of the Democrat party as we know it. That's why she is beating a dead horse in "pretending to impeach but not actually impeaching" land. They are boxed in, there is no good move for them now.

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Quote from: squatz1 on October 07, 2019, 08:16:23 PM

... if you don't believe an average of polls then that's just not fair.

You might be right in general, but given the actual real world track record of polls on Trump, I have to say that we might disregard polls in his case.

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Quote from: yoseph on October 03, 2019, 10:32:07 PM

I really don't trust polls whatsoever, I often find that most polls are biased so as to convince people that they either have people backing them but Nancy Pelosi is sure to give Trump power to win the next election and easily as well, Even Clinton who lied under oath wasn't impeached. They know that they don't have the vote to carry it out that's why they are stalling maybe they want to destabilize Trump's campaign for re-election.

Sometimes true, but this is something that would only stand true for one or two or something like 3 polls.

If you're going to aggregate polls and average them all out -- hundreds of polls with all different questions and different results -- and find a result, then I would trust that result. Yes, there's no way for all polls to be right -- but if you don't believe an average of polls then that's just not fair.

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Quote from: yoseph on October 03, 2019, 10:32:07 PM

I really don't trust polls whatsoever, I often find that most polls are biased so as to convince people that they either have people backing them but Nancy Pelosi is sure to give Trump power to win the next election and easily as well, Even Clinton who lied under oath wasn't impeached. They know that they don't have the vote to carry it out that's why they are stalling maybe they want to destabilize Trump's campaign for re-election.

What is your method of determining the opinion of those 200+ Million Americans?

There are definitely biased polls out there, but Quinnipiac is one of the most respected.

Even if your poll is legitimate, all it shows is how completely polarized the nation is with the majority of dems supporting impeachment, and the majority of reps rejecting it.

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Quote from: yoseph on October 03, 2019, 10:32:07 PM

I really don't trust polls whatsoever, I often find that most polls are biased so as to convince people that they either have people backing them but Nancy Pelosi is sure to give Trump power to win the next election and easily as well, Even Clinton who lied under oath wasn't impeached. They know that they don't have the vote to carry it out that's why they are stalling maybe they want to destabilize Trump's campaign for re-election.

What is your method of determining the opinion of those 200+ Million Americans?

There are definitely biased polls out there, but Quinnipiac is one of the most respected.

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I really don't trust polls whatsoever, I often find that most polls are biased so as to convince people that they either have people backing them but Nancy Pelosi is sure to give Trump power to win the next election and easily as well, Even Clinton who lied under oath wasn't impeached. They know that they don't have the vote to carry it out that's why they are stalling maybe they want to destabilize Trump's campaign for re-election.

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https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=3642

Thats a really big jump.

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Quote from: bluefirecorp_ on September 27, 2019, 03:54:17 PM

Impeachment's polling pretty high among citizens. 44% independents. 78% democrats, 18% republicans. I think she's waiting until the number's above 50% for independents. Mind you, Nixon impeachment at the start was only polled at 18% public support.

If you want to point at history. Clintons impeachment was low as well, and he was impeached but wasn't found guility in the senate. Clinton was someone who had used the impeachment effort against him to frame Republicans as partisan and out to get him for personal matters. Clinton won his second term and Dems won many seats in both chambers.

I don't think I'd say that's pretty high. Even if 40 percent of the public or 44 percent of the public supports impeachment -- that still leaves a large number of Amercians who DONT support impeachment.

Look at something like the RNC and Trumps reelection campaign raising tons and tons of money off of this whole thing. They're literally breaking records when they raised 125m in one quarter.

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Quote from: bluefirecorp_ on September 27, 2019, 03:54:17 PM

Impeachment's polling pretty high among citizens. 44% independents. 78% democrats, 18% republicans. I think she's waiting until the number's above 50% for independents. Mind you, Nixon impeachment at the start was only polled at 18% public support.

Nixon, the man who fired his independent prosecutor.

Trump, the man who asked the Ukrainian leader to look into the firing of the independent prosecutor ...

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Quote from: bluefirecorp_ on September 27, 2019, 03:54:17 PM

Impeachment's polling pretty high among citizens. 44% independents. 78% democrats, 18% republicans. I think she's waiting until the number's above 50% for independents. Mind you, Nixon impeachment at the start was only polled at 18% public support.

Source? I call bullshit.

"Most Americans remain opposed to impeachment, with 37% saying President Donald Trump should be removed from office and 57% saying he should not, according to a poll released Wednesday."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/impeachment-was-unpopular-before-pelosi-acted-campaign-update/ar-AAHP5dF

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Impeachment's polling pretty high among citizens. 44% independents. 78% democrats, 18% republicans. I think she's waiting until the number's above 50% for independents. Mind you, Nixon impeachment at the start was only polled at 18% public support.

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She realized that impeaching Trump for this Ukraine thing is a trap. It will not only fail to get the requisite votes, but will put most of the democrat party on record as judging this as an impeachable offense. At that point all Trump has to do is drop all the documentation of Biden and Obama's past activities doing even more than he was accused of, and the whole party will be boxed in an exposed as being corrupt, partisan, and self serving at the expense of the nation. The democrat party has painted themselves into a corner with their frothing hysterical obsession over getting Trump.

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Flying Hellfish is a Commie

In every single past impeachment inquiry, the full house has put it to a vote on if the inquiry should even exist. Nixon and Clinton both went through this, and both impeachment inquiry passed through the full house by a majority vote. Pelosi has the majority -- why won't she put this to a vote to see where people are and if they're willing to go through with this, instead of just using this as a PR and media machine to hurt the President.

She's now saying that she supports an official inquiry, but nothing is changing in terms of committees and what exactly is going on.

If she trusts that this process is going to work out -- either with the President being impeached by the House, and then being found guilty later on in the Senate -- or this leading to the President losing in 2020 -- then she would put this to a vote for the full house.

Until she does that though, we know that she's just using this for short term gain.

Topic: Why won't Pelosi let the HOUSE VOTE for an impeachment inquiry? (Read 232 times)