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Topic: Wikimedia is irrational in not accepting Bitcoin payment - page 2. (Read 6757 times)

legendary
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The article you have linked to says absolutely nothing even vaguely like that Germany are providing full faith an credit to Bitcoin as a currency.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2013/08/25/the-federal-governments-reaction-to-bitcoin-is-an-acknowledgement-of-the-dollars-vulnerability/

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«Germany formally recognizes Bitcoin as a legal form of private currency.»
sr. member
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«we do not accept "artificial" currencies – that is, those not backed by the full faith and credit of an issuing government. We [...] continue to monitor Bitcoin with interest and may revisit this position should circumstances change.

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/aug/19/bitcoin-unit-of-account-germany

Circumstances changed, so they have to revisit their position.

The article you have linked to says absolutely nothing even vaguely like that Germany are providing full faith an credit to Bitcoin as a currency.
Not close. No matter how hard you squint.
legendary
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«we do not accept "artificial" currencies – that is, those not backed by the full faith and credit of an issuing government. We [...] continue to monitor Bitcoin with interest and may revisit this position should circumstances change.

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/aug/19/bitcoin-unit-of-account-germany

Circumstances changed, so they have to revisit their position.
full member
Activity: 210
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That's why wikip does not wish to *publicly* accept money from, let's say, the Russian mafia -- doing so would negatively impact its bottom line.

I thought Wikimedia did take Rubles. The Russian government does qualify as an organized crime syndicate, with over 20,000,000 in body count.

Those dumb Russians didn't file the organized crimez registration on time, so they're still a gobment Sad Besides, Wikimedia has an affirmative action program for recovering communists.

Sincerely,

The Elders of Zion
C/O The Illuminati
The Fancy Dacha at The End Of Times,
666999
sr. member
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plz all mail to this adress asking if you can donate using bitcoin: [email protected]
legendary
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I've been thinking about this too.  I use Wikipedia all the time and would love to donate, but I don't want to fuck around with PayPal or anything, and I'm kinda strapped for cash to begin with.  Rather than swap out my BTC for USD, I'd rather just send them to BTC directly.

But if they don't think my money is good enough, then I guess I won't be donating Tongue
sr. member
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black swan hunter
That's why wikip does not wish to *publicly* accept money from, let's say, the Russian mafia -- doing so would negatively impact its bottom line.

I thought Wikimedia did take Rubles. The Russian government does qualify as an organized crime syndicate, with over 20,000,000 in body count.
hero member
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ultimately ended up paying more for administrative/accounting needs than they got as income from the new currency (see reddit, humble bundle)

Any proof of what you are saying here?

Sure:

Re: Reddit:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/19t3uq/hey_rbitcoin_you_asked_for_some_stats/

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So far we're spending more money on accountants handling the non-trivial reconciliation of our BTC transactions than revenue we're making in Bitcoin, haha. Hopefully it will get better.

Re: Humblebundle

I'll have to go look for the screenshot/source but the amount of humble bundles sold for bitcoin was a glorious.... 2.
full member
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See here why it'll nevah happen.
Bitcoin image can and will change over time. That's why it will happened

Sure, but pestering people who don't want to accept your interwebz monyz is simply ... undignified.  Once Bitcoin's image is good enough, it's value stable enough, the laws regarding it are unambiguous enough & it's easy enough to use, people will accept it.  Free market roolz.
legendary
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ultimately ended up paying more for administrative/accounting needs than they got as income from the new currency (see reddit, humble bundle)

Any proof of what you are saying here?
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1000
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Seems to me people hate the Bitpay solution and want Wikipedia to accept Bitcoins directly (I'm kinda guessing here from the screams of "we hate the Bitpay solution and want Wikipedia to accept Bitcoins directly").

Which begs the question above how this US organization is going to exchange their Bitcoins into Dollares.

People want so see wikipedia using bitpay services directly on their website and do not want to donate via bitpay website to wikipedia.

It's not a practical concern, it's a principle concern.

See here why it'll nevah happen.

Bitcoin image can and will change over time. That's why it will happened
hero member
Activity: 952
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Seems to me people hate the Bitpay solution and want Wikipedia to accept Bitcoins directly (I'm kinda guessing here from the screams of "we hate the Bitpay solution and want Wikipedia to accept Bitcoins directly").

Which begs the question above how this US organization is going to exchange their Bitcoins into Dollares.

People want so see wikipedia using bitpay services directly on their website and do not want to donate via bitpay website to wikipedia.

It's not a practical concern, it's a principle concern.

It's high-level wankery. You're not going to make your currency more popular by being as annoying as possible towards the ones you look for to be accepting of your currency. It's also not helping when it turns out that those before who had been badgered into accepting the currency to get rid of the annoybots, ultimately ended up paying more for administrative/accounting needs than they got as income from the new currency (see reddit, humble bundle)
full member
Activity: 210
Merit: 100

Seems to me people hate the Bitpay solution and want Wikipedia to accept Bitcoins directly (I'm kinda guessing here from the screams of "we hate the Bitpay solution and want Wikipedia to accept Bitcoins directly").

Which begs the question above how this US organization is going to exchange their Bitcoins into Dollares.

People want so see wikipedia using bitpay services directly on their website and do not want to donate via bitpay website to wikipedia.

It's not a practical concern, it's a principle concern.

See here why it'll nevah happen.
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1000
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Seems to me people hate the Bitpay solution and want Wikipedia to accept Bitcoins directly (I'm kinda guessing here from the screams of "we hate the Bitpay solution and want Wikipedia to accept Bitcoins directly").

Which begs the question above how this US organization is going to exchange their Bitcoins into Dollares.

People want so see wikipedia using bitpay services directly on their website and do not want to donate via bitpay website to wikipedia.

It's not a practical concern, it's a principle concern.
hero member
Activity: 952
Merit: 1009
Starving children clearly do need food that much. Do not donate anything to them until they accept tree bark.

You cannot trade tree bark for money and then food but You can trade bitcoin for money and then food.

Your comment is pointless

O RLY? Do they now? Tell me more about how exactly Wikipedia would trade bitcoin for money. Please be specific.

I can't believe you don't know about bitpay or BIPS

Seems to me people hate the Bitpay solution and want Wikipedia to accept Bitcoins directly (I'm kinda guessing here from the screams of "we hate the Bitpay solution and want Wikipedia to accept Bitcoins directly").

Which begs the question above how this US organization is going to exchange their Bitcoins into Dollares.
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1000
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Starving children clearly do need food that much. Do not donate anything to them until they accept tree bark.

You cannot trade tree bark for money and then food but You can trade bitcoin for money and then food.

Your comment is pointless

O RLY? Do they now? Tell me more about how exactly Wikipedia would trade bitcoin for money. Please be specific.

I can't believe you don't know about bitpay or BIPS
legendary
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"artificial currency"

if this is not an oxymoron I don't know what is

FIAT is more artificial, as it is much easier to create!

We need to add a comeback...writing


hero member
Activity: 952
Merit: 1009
Starving children clearly do need food that much. Do not donate anything to them until they accept tree bark.

You cannot trade tree bark for money and then food but You can trade bitcoin for money and then food.

Your comment is pointless

O RLY? Do they now? Tell me more about how exactly Wikipedia would trade bitcoin for money. Please be specific.
full member
Activity: 210
Merit: 100
Starving children clearly do need food that much. Do not donate anything to them until they accept tree bark.

You cannot trade tree bark for money and then food but You can trade bitcoin for money and then food.

Your comment is pointless

Let me explain how IRL works:
Wikip has to maintain a pristine public image to appease its major corporate & private donors, and to remain open to future, potential donors who, in turn, only wish to be associated with goodness & light.  That's why wikip does not wish to *publicly* accept money from, let's say, the Russian mafia -- doing so would negatively impact its bottom line.  It *will* accept such donations through a proxy, such as BitPay -- such transactions will not blemish it in the public eye.

Likewise, Wikip does not wish to accept donations in Bitcoin, due to Bitcoin's associations with hookers & blow.  Wikip does not wish to risk tainting its public image by associating with Bitcoin. 
This may or may not be "fair," but that's how it iz.

Well, right they accept any currency as long as the "associations" of the currency are not directly seen on their Page:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmatonis/2012/06/29/wikipedia-accepts-enemies-of-the-internet-currencies/

Appearances are often more important IRL than substance.  Wikip sees Bitcoin as a bigger liability than accepting money from "the enemies of the internet."  As i said, wikip is happy to take your money if you launder it through BitPay or another proxy.  If donating to entities that don't wish to take your money is important to you, do it through BitPay -- you'll be enriching a Bitcoin business, and the Bitcoin economy as a whole. Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1001
Starving children clearly do need food that much. Do not donate anything to them until they accept tree bark.

You cannot trade tree bark for money and then food but You can trade bitcoin for money and then food.

Your comment is pointless

Let me explain how IRL works:
Wikip has to maintain a pristine public image to appease its major corporate & private donors, and to remain open to future, potential donors who, in turn, only wish to be associated with goodness & light.  That's why wikip does not wish to *publicly* accept money from, let's say, the Russian mafia -- doing so would negatively impact its bottom line.  It *will* accept such donations through a proxy, such as BitPay -- such transactions will not blemish it in the public eye.

Likewise, Wikip does not wish to accept donations in Bitcoin, due to Bitcoin's associations with hookers & blow.  Wikip does not wish to risk tainting its public image by associating with Bitcoin. 
This may or may not be "fair," but that's how it iz.

Well, right they accept any currency as long as the "associations" of the currency are not directly seen on their Page:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmatonis/2012/06/29/wikipedia-accepts-enemies-of-the-internet-currencies/
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