Topic: Wilder vs Fury 2: The Rematch (Read 790 times)

Quote from: hulla on August 11, 2019, 07:31:41 AM

Quote from: eaLiTy on August 05, 2019, 07:01:32 PM

Even without the personal life issue of Tyson, Wilder still has the upper chance to beat Tyson because Wilder is totally in shape these days which is the reason why he beat Dominic Breazeale on KO a couple of seconds during the first round.

If you take boxing technique and skills Tyson Fury is far better than a brawler and a heavy puncher like Deontay Wilder but the most amazing thing about Wilder is that he just weighs around 205 pounds and that is crazy that he is fighting as a heavyweight and the amount of power he has in that frame to knock out a very heavy boxer is incredible, both have their own skill sets and i would love to see the rematch. Tyson Fury does not bother about physical fitness all the time but his boxing skills are incredible and the most interesting part is the power versus technique displayed by both these fighters.

I understand you perfectly well and I want you to know put what I am saying into consideration because I'm not talking about previous records or activities of the flighters but for I'm talking about their current abilities.

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Tyson = Left hand; Fury = Right hand Cheesy

This means he’s punching herself together with that two hands of him?😂😂

I wonder what will happen to him after the 12 round🤪🤪

Anyway about wilder vs Tyson’s fight?let the game decides soon ,but for me I am with Wilder on this one .sorry but I am not a Tyson’s fan 👍👍✌🏻

Am a Tyson those days that he's emotionally healthy, but now I don't have confidence on him. He's got more previous problems dealing with his personal life, so it could probably affects his performance. Being healthy starts from within. Definitely if he's fighting with Wilder, I think it won't be 100% as good as his old days. Let my bets go to Wilder, because I am confident that he could win over Tyson.

Even without the personal life issue of Tyson, Wilder still has the upper chance to beat Tyson because Wilder is totally in shape these days which is the reason why he beat Dominic Breazeale on KO a couple of seconds during the first round.

Tyson is on the best shape of his life lately. Remember that he beat Klitschko with an huge beer belly, guy looked pretty ridiculous back then. Skills pay the bills, boxing is not a modeling pageant, we should already know this after the Ruiz incident. Joshua was too worried with looking good on instagram to get marketing/brand deals and underestimated the skills and willpower of the smaller, out of shape guy.

Also in HW it's better to be packing a bit of extra mass vs being a tall lanky guy like wilder IMO. Wilder is just a special specimen because of the way he is built. His skills are pretty limited tho, he will always lose without landing an huge hit that either KO's Tyson or if the fight is being close, makes it the deciding factor for the judges. Im betting on Tyson getting the job done this time, but it's pretty scary to realize the fact that Wilder can ruin your bet with a single punch.

Tyson, is a good fighter but the issue of Joshua losses to Ruiz was the act of underrating his opponent which he also said when they were speculating about the rematch venue. Mind you, Deontay Wilder is not busy entertaining the media but training and fighting to stay in shape.

After the rematch there are no excuses that Joshua can come up with, it's pretty much career over, he will have no arguments to come up with some reason why he lost again. This might actually play against him and either start rushing too much and get startched as Ruiz is better on the inside, or become too conservative and Ruiz becoming the aggressor and then losing an UD because many fighters think they can fight like Mayweather when they can't, and the judges can see that.

For me this is a nightmare of a bet, I may not participate. I will have to wait and see live updates on the odds. This is how people tons of money, fights like this are a gamble.

On the other hand there's a very easy bet coming in september by going for a win with Khabib, easy money there.

From the get-go, every aspect of life is gambling cause no one knows for sure what the future holds and you right when you said the rematch between Anthony and Ruiz will make us know if Ruiz previous win is a fluke but their rematch is somehow related with Wilder and Fury rematch.
Meanwhile, you still cant say Khabib upcoming fight is an easy win fight than Anthony vs Ruiz or Wilder vs Fury fight, for tomorrow are not promised.

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Fury explains why he ended up with Wallin fight
http://www.espn.com/watch/player?id=27379671
Makes you think the poor guy didnt have many other choices

That link doesn't work for me, just redirects to the homepage.

With that said, ESPN have taken on Fury with a fixed pay per fight contract which is arguably quite lucrative. So best to get paid well to fight some bums than actually take on any risk.

Although, I doubt many of the top ranking candidates want to fight Tyson fury and have their record blemished, since he would probably beat anybody in the division right now.

He is unlikely to fight Parker since they're friends, Whyte just got busted for being a drugs cheat (after calling AJ a roid-junkie), Povetkin is locked in with Fury's brother, and nobody wants to see Pulev get whomped by Fury.

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Fury explains why he ended up with Wallin fight
http://www.espn.com/watch/player?id=27379671
Makes you think the poor guy didnt have many other choices

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It's time for wielder to put nail to coffin on fury. The last bout was a narrow escape for Tyson fury and I was not in support of the draw decision by the judges and I felt wielder had the day.
The second bout would be epic and wielder will ravage Tyson fury on this one

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Quote from: kaya11 on August 05, 2019, 06:53:21 PM

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Quote from: eaLiTy on August 05, 2019, 07:01:32 PM

I imagine he'll get at least another warmup fight in between, hopefully with somebody noteworthy like Pulev, and then he'll dance around Deontay once again.

Deontay wont allow him to dance around as he found the whole in Fury defence and almost KO him in the end of the match. I think Deontay will make conclusions of that and end match before 12 rounds ends.

I will not bet on neither sides, but I guess i would pick wilder for the win if it ever happens, maybe he is going for a solid knock-out this time or else fury will get most of the points and never again to be judge a draw like the first fight. 12 rounds of the past is an experience for each fighter and can be used can be used as an advantage to get the win, I do believe in heavy punchers and if this time it goes in, maybe fury won't be able to stand again in another fight.

It will be interesting to see who become the winner on this 2nd match. It won't be easy to declare Fury or tyson favorite before the match. I think both of them are favorite however fury might have some advantages over tyson but this does not mean that the chances of tyson are less. At the moment i am 50 / 50 on both.

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Even without the personal life issue of Tyson, Wilder still has the upper chance to beat Tyson because Wilder is totally in shape these days which is the reason why he beat Dominic Breazeale on KO a couple of seconds during the first round.

If you take boxing technique and skills Tyson Fury is far better than a brawler and a heavy puncher like Deontay Wilder but the most amazing thing about Wilder is that he just weighs around 205 pounds and that is crazy that he is fighting as a heavyweight and the amount of power he has in that frame to knock out a very heavy boxer is incredible, both have their own skill sets and i would love to see the rematch. Tyson Fury does not bother about physical fitness all the time but his boxing skills are incredible and the most interesting part is the power versus technique displayed by both these fighters.

I understand you perfectly well and I want you to know put what I am saying into consideration because I'm not talking about previous records or activities of the flighters but for I'm talking about their current abilities.

Quote from: Soots on July 31, 2019, 03:33:49 PM

Quote from: rosezionjohn link=topic=5170820.msg52016943#msg52016943 date=1564583034

Tyson = Left hand; Fury = Right hand Cheesy

This means he’s punching herself together with that two hands of him?😂😂

I wonder what will happen to him after the 12 round🤪🤪

Anyway about wilder vs Tyson’s fight?let the game decides soon ,but for me I am with Wilder on this one .sorry but I am not a Tyson’s fan 👍👍✌🏻

Am a Tyson those days that he's emotionally healthy, but now I don't have confidence on him. He's got more previous problems dealing with his personal life, so it could probably affects his performance. Being healthy starts from within. Definitely if he's fighting with Wilder, I think it won't be 100% as good as his old days. Let my bets go to Wilder, because I am confident that he could win over Tyson.

Even without the personal life issue of Tyson, Wilder still has the upper chance to beat Tyson because Wilder is totally in shape these days which is the reason why he beat Dominic Breazeale on KO a couple of seconds during the first round.

Tyson is on the best shape of his life lately. Remember that he beat Klitschko with an huge beer belly, guy looked pretty ridiculous back then. Skills pay the bills, boxing is not a modeling pageant, we should already know this after the Ruiz incident. Joshua was too worried with looking good on instagram to get marketing/brand deals and underestimated the skills and willpower of the smaller, out of shape guy.

Also in HW it's better to be packing a bit of extra mass vs being a tall lanky guy like wilder IMO. Wilder is just a special specimen because of the way he is built. His skills are pretty limited tho, he will always lose without landing an huge hit that either KO's Tyson or if the fight is being close, makes it the deciding factor for the judges. Im betting on Tyson getting the job done this time, but it's pretty scary to realize the fact that Wilder can ruin your bet with a single punch.

Tyson, is a good fighter but the issue of Joshua losses to Ruiz was the act of underrating his opponent which he also said when they were speculating about the rematch venue. Mind you, Deontay Wilder is not busy entertaining the media but training and fighting to stay in shape.

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The second match promises to be a blockbuster, they don't need to hype the fight, as they did in their first matchup, style makes a fight and these two guys like to go for a knockout and will not run away for a fight so expect a much action-packed match,and this promises to be a better fight than the previous one .

I thought the first fight should go to Fury he is in total control of the fight, but that two knockdowns really makes the difference, it's almost a total shut out, Fury is leading in almost all the rounds.

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Quote from: Saisher on August 05, 2019, 09:08:30 PM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 05, 2019, 08:54:14 PM

Is Wilder versus Fury 2 a go? I reckon negotiations for this might take longer because Tyson Fury joined a different organization.

However, the Anthony Joshua versus Andy Ruiz rematch negotiations is already being finalized.

Read in full https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-i-think-i-know-joshua-ruiz-rematch-heading--141467

But I still want to see both fighters go against each other again, that would be a blockbuster because honestly, that previous match could go either way, Fury can pour a lot of punch and Wilder rely heavily on his knock out power, it's something that should be resolved in their second match.

That's right the rematch will bring more entertainment to all audience that will wanted to know who's going to be Excel and win, both fighters have heavy capabilities to win against each others that's the very reason the fight went to draw as both fighters never giving up and fought well, the rematch will make a deciding factor.

Fury has the psychological advantage because boxing fans thinks he can robbed on the first fight. He give him a boxing lesson, he was knock down but was able to get up and finished the fight. Majority of boxing fans thinks that he wins and proved that Wilder can't even last 12 full rounds. But a rematch should settle as to who is the best hw right now and that is what boxing fans wanted to see.

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Quote from: mich on August 07, 2019, 10:27:32 AM

https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/tyson-fury-v-otto-wallin/winner

As expected the bookies arent giving the SWEDE much chance seeing him for 10-1
This would really be a bigger upset then AR over AJ and relly shake up the hvwts!

Honestly I'm surprised Fury is only getting 25/1 on this guy.

The guy has fought 100% no-names, and has a terrible knockout ratio. It's even worse than Tyson Fury's knockout ratio and everybody knows Fury isn't a puncher.

This would be the biggest upset of all time if Fury somehow lost, I mean, at least Ruiz was an absolute beast in the amateur's and was known for wrecking bigger guys.

Otto is literally unknown, and it's a pathetic matchup to be honest, nobody should pay for this event if it's on PPV. Fury should have fought Povetkin or Pulev.

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https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/tyson-fury-v-otto-wallin/winner

As expected the bookies arent giving the SWEDE much chance seeing him for 10-1
This would really be a bigger upset then AR over AJ and relly shake up the hvwts!

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 05, 2019, 08:54:14 PM

Is Wilder versus Fury 2 a go? I reckon negotiations for this might take longer because Tyson Fury joined a different organization.

However, the Anthony Joshua versus Andy Ruiz rematch negotiations is already being finalized.

Read in full https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-i-think-i-know-joshua-ruiz-rematch-heading--141467

I'm sure it is still a go, Fury will just have to win his next match to secure the rematch with Wilder. As I have said, they have verbally agreed already. And it makes sense for them to really go at it one more time as we all know that the first fight was really controversial.

@pereira4 - I think it easier to cherry pick at this division because it is not as stack as let's say a Welterweight. The thing with the Joshua fight is that Andy Ruiz is a replacement and it's possible that he underestimated him as others have pointed out.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 05, 2019, 08:54:14 PM

Is Wilder versus Fury 2 a go? I reckon negotiations for this might take longer because Tyson Fury joined a different organization.

However, the Anthony Joshua versus Andy Ruiz rematch negotiations is already being finalized.

Read in full https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-i-think-i-know-joshua-ruiz-rematch-heading--141467

But I still want to see both fighters go against each other again, that would be a blockbuster because honestly, that previous match could go either way, Fury can pour a lot of punch and Wilder rely heavily on his knock out power, it's something that should be resolved in their second match.

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Is Wilder versus Fury 2 a go? I reckon negotiations for this might take longer because Tyson Fury joined a different organization.

However, the Anthony Joshua versus Andy Ruiz rematch negotiations is already being finalized.

Read in full https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-i-think-i-know-joshua-ruiz-rematch-heading--141467

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Quote from: TopTort777 on July 31, 2019, 08:19:55 AM

Even without the personal life issue of Tyson, Wilder still has the upper chance to beat Tyson because Wilder is totally in shape these days which is the reason why he beat Dominic Breazeale on KO a couple of seconds during the first round.

If you take boxing technique and skills Tyson Fury is far better than a brawler and a heavy puncher like Deontay Wilder but the most amazing thing about Wilder is that he just weighs around 205 pounds and that is crazy that he is fighting as a heavyweight and the amount of power he has in that frame to knock out a very heavy boxer is incredible, both have their own skill sets and i would love to see the rematch. Tyson Fury does not bother about physical fitness all the time but his boxing skills are incredible and the most interesting part is the power versus technique displayed by both these fighters.

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Quote from: Soots on July 31, 2019, 03:33:49 PM

I imagine he'll get at least another warmup fight in between, hopefully with somebody noteworthy like Pulev, and then he'll dance around Deontay once again.

Deontay wont allow him to dance around as he found the whole in Fury defence and almost KO him in the end of the match. I think Deontay will make conclusions of that and end match before 12 rounds ends.

I will not bet on neither sides, but I guess i would pick wilder for the win if it ever happens, maybe he is going for a solid knock-out this time or else fury will get most of the points and never again to be judge a draw like the first fight. 12 rounds of the past is an experience for each fighter and can be used can be used as an advantage to get the win, I do believe in heavy punchers and if this time it goes in, maybe fury won't be able to stand again in another fight.

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Quote from: ene1980 on August 05, 2019, 03:32:59 PM

Quote from: rosezionjohn link=topic=5170820.msg52016943#msg52016943 date=1564583034

Tyson = Left hand; Fury = Right hand Cheesy

This means he’s punching herself together with that two hands of him?😂😂

I wonder what will happen to him after the 12 round🤪🤪

Anyway about wilder vs Tyson’s fight?let the game decides soon ,but for me I am with Wilder on this one .sorry but I am not a Tyson’s fan 👍👍✌🏻

Am a Tyson those days that he's emotionally healthy, but now I don't have confidence on him. He's got more previous problems dealing with his personal life, so it could probably affects his performance. Being healthy starts from within. Definitely if he's fighting with Wilder, I think it won't be 100% as good as his old days. Let my bets go to Wilder, because I am confident that he could win over Tyson.

Even without the personal life issue of Tyson, Wilder still has the upper chance to beat Tyson because Wilder is totally in shape these days which is the reason why he beat Dominic Breazeale on KO a couple of seconds during the first round.

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I don't believe in cherrypicking anymore in HW. Unless you really pick a massive dosser, if you pick anyone half competent, you risk ruining your career like what happen to Joshua.

When you are cherry picking make sure you do not underestimate an opponent, Andy Ruiz has more than 100 wins in amateur competition and he is a national junior Olympic gold medalist and if Joshua picked him to show his skills as a late replacement in the US soil that was his mistake as he should have picked someone else, if Jarrell Miller was the opponent against Joshua he would have won the fight but he under estimated a chubby boxer and paid his price Cheesy

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Wilder vs Fury rematch is a much anticipated fight and if Fury have to win he should knock out Wilder which is an impossible task and the judges will not grant Fury a win by Unanimous decision in American soil Cheesy

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Well there could be cherry picking in heavyweight division but the problem is that those guys can pack a punch because obviously they are bigger guys. I'm sure Joshua really did thought that the chubby Andy Ruiz is no match for or at least he under estimated him. If the fight goes to distance, I'll go with Fury.

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Quote from: Fredomago on July 31, 2019, 11:13:29 PM

I don't believe in cherrypicking anymore in HW. Unless you really pick a massive dosser, if you pick anyone half competent, you risk ruining your career like what happen to Joshua.

When you are cherry picking make sure you do not underestimate an opponent, Andy Ruiz has more than 100 wins in amateur competition and he is a national junior Olympic gold medalist and if Joshua picked him to show his skills as a late replacement in the US soil that was his mistake as he should have picked someone else, if Jarrell Miller was the opponent against Joshua he would have won the fight but he under estimated a chubby boxer and paid his price Cheesy

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Wilder vs Fury rematch is a much anticipated fight and if Fury have to win he should knock out Wilder which is an impossible task and the judges will not grant Fury a win by Unanimous decision in American soil Cheesy

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I'd go on Fury UD for this fight, with a slim chance of KO of course. We all know how insane Wilder's punches are if it connects, but for the most part, he just swings around aimlessly and somewhat more of an egoistic person, far from being composed like what Tyson Fury shows in the ring, and that speaks on his performance on the ring. This would be a good fight to watch considering how much trash Wilder already dropped on Fury for right even before the fight starts (reminds me of Pac and Thurman, but we all know this happens in boxing a lot.) Anyway, 2020 is still a far off date to ponder on and I think Fury has something in line for him this coming September, so Wilder would have to take notes.

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Deontay Wilder slams Tyson Fury for agreeing to fight Otto Wallin

https://metro.co.uk/2019/08/04/deontay-wilder-slams-tyson-fury-agreeing-fight-otto-wallin-10515480/

Wilder has described Wallin as a ‘night shift graveyard worker’ and has mocked Fury for calling himself the lineal heavyweight champion.

When asked about Fury’s decision to face Wallin, Wilder told Fighthype: ‘What is this? What’s going on here?’

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on July 31, 2019, 08:36:18 PM

Quote from: TopTort777 on July 31, 2019, 08:11:20 AM

Why this topic is called "Tyson vs Fury 2" ? Tyson Fury is one person Cheesy

so called Gypsy King.
Or spectators will see Fury doing shadow boxing ? Grin

To be honest, I didn't noticed that title (me stupid) until I read your post Cheesy

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Anyway, I have watched their fight and I don't think it must be end with a draw although it happened. In my opinion, both of them may face 1-2 fighters first before they will face in the ring for the second time and maybe this can happen next year. I don't want to predict to this fight but Wilder has found a good opponent now.

OP needs to update the title.

That controversial draw might that have a good decision after this rematch, if the fight happen for sure boxing fans will be excited seeing both of them will try to win and show to the world who really deserves to get the title, hope this will materialized and bring more entertainment to the boxing fans.

Yeah, maybe the controversial decision might get people hype to see the rematch between the two. There's been a lot of trash talk between the two eversince the controversial first fight. As for the rematch, I didn't see any changes though, Wilder will swing early and Tyson will show us his defensive prowess, but I'm seeing Wilder might get lucky and hit Fury flush to score a KO victory.

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Quote from: mich on August 02, 2019, 01:22:28 PM

Well it doesnt look like Tyson will be fighting himself any time soon

Tyson Fury To Fight Otto Wallin On September 14 In Las Vegas

https://www.boxingscene.com/tyson-fury-fight-otto-wallin-on-september-14-las-vegas--141396?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

BoxingScene.com also has learned that the Fury-Wallin fight will headline a card September 14 at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas. Top Rank had considered taking Fury’s next fight to TD Garden in Boston, but he’ll fight a second straight bout in Las Vegas.

It's unfortunate, but they should do a rematch, people love to see them go for it again, there's uncertainty, and debate if who really wins and a match that has no sure winner should be resolved, I expect them to go against each other again in the future.

Why would it be unfortunate? They're going to do a rematch next year, there's some verbal agreement between the two already. Tyson Fury just wanted to take advantage to make more money prior to the fight. They need to hype it out and I'm sure Fury is wise enough not to lose to Wallin this September, just taking fight to keep his busy so that he won't fall on another 'personal' issue that he had before.

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Quote from: mich on August 02, 2019, 01:22:28 PM

Well it doesnt look like Tyson will be fighting himself any time soon

Tyson Fury To Fight Otto Wallin On September 14 In Las Vegas

https://www.boxingscene.com/tyson-fury-fight-otto-wallin-on-september-14-las-vegas--141396?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

BoxingScene.com also has learned that the Fury-Wallin fight will headline a card September 14 at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas. Top Rank had considered taking Fury’s next fight to TD Garden in Boston, but he’ll fight a second straight bout in Las Vegas.

It's unfortunate, but they should do a rematch, people love to see them go for it again, there's uncertainty, and debate if who really wins and a match that has no sure winner should be resolved, I expect them to go against each other again in the future.

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Well it doesnt look like Tyson will be fighting himself any time soon

Tyson Fury To Fight Otto Wallin On September 14 In Las Vegas

https://www.boxingscene.com/tyson-fury-fight-otto-wallin-on-september-14-las-vegas--141396?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

BoxingScene.com also has learned that the Fury-Wallin fight will headline a card September 14 at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas. Top Rank had considered taking Fury’s next fight to TD Garden in Boston, but he’ll fight a second straight bout in Las Vegas.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on July 31, 2019, 09:09:14 AM

Fury got knocked down like 2 or 3 times in the first fight. I know he’s a good boxer but I don’t think you can viably claim to have won a fight if you get put on your ass multiple times in a fight. We will see what happens but I think Wilder settles the scores here & takes the win.

Hope you are talking about the 9th round where Deontay Wilder landed one heavy shot and then in the 12th round where everyone thought he will not get up from that heavy handed knock down and still he stood up and won those rounds, if a fighter is winning most of the rounds and then a knock down happens that does not mean it could be a draw, Tyson Fury won majority of the rounds and we score the fight according to the rounds won and not according to the amount of knock downs Tongue

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I agree with you, Fury should have won the fight, he took away most of the round it's against those rounds and the two knockdowns by Wilder, in my own computation, Fury should have won the fight by majority decision. he fully dominates Wilder.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on July 31, 2019, 09:09:14 AM

Fury got knocked down like 2 or 3 times in the first fight. I know he’s a good boxer but I don’t think you can viably claim to have won a fight if you get put on your ass multiple times in a fight. We will see what happens but I think Wilder settles the scores here & takes the win.

Hope you are talking about the 9th round where Deontay Wilder landed one heavy shot and then in the 12th round where everyone thought he will not get up from that heavy handed knock down and still he stood up and won those rounds, if a fighter is winning most of the rounds and then a knock down happens that does not mean it could be a draw, Tyson Fury won majority of the rounds and we score the fight according to the rounds won and not according to the amount of knock downs Tongue

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Quote from: pereira4 on July 31, 2019, 06:55:01 AM

Nobody made a thread for this yet as far as I can tell, so here we go. The megafight is scheluded to go down somewhere next year. Who do you got? Im betting on a Tyson 12 round unanimous decision. He just has to avoid getting clipped again by Fury. In my book, Tyson fury won the first match. Las Vegas judges decided to ruin my weekend again my going for a draw, ridiculous. I accepted GGG vs Canelo 1 as a draw and that was pushing it a bit, but this one, even considering the knockout, was a Tyson tight but fair win on the decision.

PS: Actually Bob Arum claims the fight is possible this December. They may want to avoid another Ruiz incident because promoters stretch buildups with filler fights too much until someone that wasn't supposed to win, wins and ruins the whole thing (or makes it even more fun).

Tyson vs Fury ? What are you talking about? It's the same person "Tyson Fury", you were drunk? Cheesy

If you are talking about Fury vs Gambler II, it's already scheduled for 22nd February 2020
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/jul/07/boxing-tyson-fury-says-deontay-wilder-rematch-agreed-february
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Quote from: LogitechMouse on July 31, 2019, 08:36:18 PM

Quote from: TopTort777 on July 31, 2019, 08:11:20 AM

Why this topic is called "Tyson vs Fury 2" ? Tyson Fury is one person Cheesy

so called Gypsy King.
Or spectators will see Fury doing shadow boxing ? Grin

To be honest, I didn't noticed that title (me stupid) until I read your post Cheesy

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Anyway, I have watched their fight and I don't think it must be end with a draw although it happened. In my opinion, both of them may face 1-2 fighters first before they will face in the ring for the second time and maybe this can happen next year. I don't want to predict to this fight but Wilder has found a good opponent now.

OP needs to update the title.

That controversial draw might that have a good decision after this rematch, if the fight happen for sure boxing fans will be excited seeing both of them will try to win and show to the world who really deserves to get the title, hope this will materialized and bring more entertainment to the boxing fans.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on July 31, 2019, 08:11:20 AM

Why this topic is called "Tyson vs Fury 2" ? Tyson Fury is one person Cheesy

so called Gypsy King.
Or spectators will see Fury doing shadow boxing ? Grin

To be honest, I didn't noticed that title (me stupid) until I read your post Cheesy

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Anyway, I have watched their fight and I don't think it must be end with a draw although it happened. In my opinion, both of them may face 1-2 fighters first before they will face in the ring for the second time and maybe this can happen next year. I don't want to predict to this fight but Wilder has found a good opponent now.

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Quote from: DarkDays on July 31, 2019, 08:02:23 AM

I think you mean Wilder vs Fury 2.

In fact, I've noticed that you mistook Fury, Wilder and Tyson multiple times throughout your post, do you even know what you're talking about?

Deontay Wilder vs TYSON FURY is slated to occur in early 2020, contracts have already been signed according to both Fury and Wilder.

As for my prediction, I expect that Tyson Fury will win (again) by UD. Wilder does have a good chance, but I expect less than 40% odds he wins by KO.

Wilder CANNOT win on points.

Like you said, contracts have already been signed and with the respond made by Fury camp there high possibility that fight will happen this year but I won't underestimate Wilder if I were you because the guy is totally awesome this days as fitness and shape is concern.

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Many buddies here had their own opinion against Tyson and other best boxers. Everyone gives their insights and deliberations for their favorite boxers, so that well respected. In the case of Tyson that possible rematch is very most awaited and I am looking forward to see that match. Still I am his strong fan eversince I was a kid, me and my dad was truly his fan; and I do believe his capacity to fight for long rounds of boxing remained.

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I have no doubt that this will push through next year, there's a lot of money to be made here so for sure, whoever manages both of this fighter will go and set it up, although there is a verbal agreement already.

We have seen what Fury can do in the first fight and I'm sure majority of boxing fans here see him as the winner in their first fight. He will be the favourite in the rematch so I'll be putting money on Fury again, by UD or either a KO win. Wilder weaknesses is a pure boxer and he doesn't have that gas tank to stay active for full 12 rounds.

@Soots - I don't know if you have seen his performance against Wilder, or even against Tom Schwarz. He is definitely back on top again and has move on already.

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Quote from: pereira4 on July 31, 2019, 06:55:01 AM

Nobody made a thread for this yet as far as I can tell, so here we go. The megafight is scheluded to go down somewhere next year. Who do you got? Im betting on a Tyson 12 round unanimous decision. He just has to avoid getting clipped again by Fury. In my book, Tyson fury won the first match. Las Vegas judges decided to ruin my weekend again my going for a draw, ridiculous. I accepted GGG vs Canelo 1 as a draw and that was pushing it a bit, but this one, even considering the knockout, was a Tyson tight but fair win on the decision.

No one made a thread because we are not sure of the fight date yet. Possible for next year, but there are circumstances like fighters getting injured or venues not available. As far as the first fight goes, Tyson Fury has the edge on my score cards. Wilder was dominated on that fight, so it was really a controversial decision and a rematch should be made.

Quote from: pereira4 on July 31, 2019, 06:55:01 AM

PS: Actually Bob Arum claims the fight is possible this December. They may want to avoid another Ruiz incident because promoters stretch buildups with filler fights too much until someone that wasn't supposed to win, wins and ruins the whole thing (or makes it even more fun).

Bob Arum and Frank Warren (who co-manages Fury's boxing career) states that Fury will fight next on September, but the opponent is not yet known. I don't think that they will go after Ruiz, they might choose some 2nd or 3rd tier fighter so that they can set up a super fight with Deontay. They don't want to be ruin here. Arum is very good on cherry picking opponents so I'm sure it will be like a easy fight for Tyson, just to make his busy before facing Wilder next year.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on July 31, 2019, 12:54:11 PM

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Tyson = Left hand; Fury = Right hand Cheesy

This means he’s punching herself together with that two hands of him?😂😂

I wonder what will happen to him after the 12 round🤪🤪

Anyway about wilder vs Tyson’s fight?let the game decides soon ,but for me I am with Wilder on this one .sorry but I am not a Tyson’s fan 👍👍✌🏻

Am a Tyson those days that he's emotionally healthy, but now I don't have confidence on him. He's got more previous problems dealing with his personal life, so it could probably affects his performance. Being healthy starts from within. Definitely if he's fighting with Wilder, I think it won't be 100% as good as his old days. Let my bets go to Wilder, because I am confident that he could win over Tyson.

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If Wilder won rounds 9 and 12 by KO, why do you think Fury won rest of the rounds?

It was hard to see Wilder swinging and just punching the air. Fury was more precise during their first fight. I am not a judge but if it were up to me, Fury won 8 rounds at the very least.

Knocked down was the more appropriate term, not KO.

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Quote from: rosezionjohn link=topic=5170820.msg52016943#msg52016943 date=1564583034

Tyson = Left hand; Fury = Right hand Cheesy

This means he’s punching herself together with that two hands of him?😂😂

I wonder what will happen to him after the 12 round🤪🤪

Anyway about wilder vs Tyson’s fight?let the game decides soon ,but for me I am with Wilder on this one .sorry but I am not a Tyson’s fan 👍👍✌🏻

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Such a confusing thread title lol and thread starter doesnt seem like he wants to change it to boot!
Please fix the thread title if you want to get some real discussion going on this topic otherwise I will start a new thread.

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Quote from: rosezionjohn on July 31, 2019, 09:23:54 AM

By judge, you mean referee?
Fury was robbed. Rounds 9 and 12 were the only rounds that Wilder clearly won. The rest of the fight, Wilder was punching the air most of the time.

Yes, referee. I’m just used to call him judge.

If Wilder won rounds 9 and 12 by KO, why do you think Fury won rest of the rounds?

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Quote from: Theb on July 31, 2019, 09:48:12 AM

Quote from: DeathAngel on July 31, 2019, 09:09:14 AM

Fury got knocked down like 2 or 3 times in the first fight. I know he’s a good boxer but I don’t think you can viably claim to have won a fight if you get put on your ass multiple times in a fight. We will see what happens but I think Wilder settles the scores here & takes the win.

Fury only got knocked down two times and he didn't received those knock downs without a fight. Fury if it weren't for that two knockdowns he received was owning Wilder via points, how big? The point gap was so big that even if Wilder knocked him down two times it wasn't enough to convince the judges to give him the win. I don't think we need to rush the rematch this year especially if Andy Ruiz Jr. is the one we want to match either or even both of them.

Knockdowns deductions 1-2 points and even with those downs it isn't really enough for it to cover the gap.For next fight we would see some prepared Wilder but I'm

sure it wont still be enough to dominate Fury when it comes to points.@OP you should edit the topic title because you do make yourself dumb. Grin

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Quote from: DeathAngel on July 31, 2019, 09:09:14 AM

Fury got knocked down like 2 or 3 times in the first fight. I know he’s a good boxer but I don’t think you can viably claim to have won a fight if you get put on your ass multiple times in a fight. We will see what happens but I think Wilder settles the scores here & takes the win.

Fury only got knocked down two times and he didn't received those knock downs without a fight. Fury if it weren't for that two knockdowns he received was owning Wilder via points, how big? The point gap was so big that even if Wilder knocked him down two times it wasn't enough to convince the judges to give him the win. I don't think we need to rush the rematch this year especially if Andy Ruiz Jr. is the one we want to match either or even both of them.

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Fury dominated Wilder the whole fight and if that wasn't for that two knockdowns Fury is on it's a way to a unanimous decision, I think Fury will take care of the second fight because he knows every Wilder's move and Fury's quickness clearly overwhelmed Wilder, it will be unanimous decision on their second match or even a knock out for Fury.

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Great. I love this anger sport, I think Tyson will be crazy this time, Do you think Tyson will do the same thing this time so much will collapse in front of this tour so we'll be together.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on July 31, 2019, 08:11:20 AM

Why this topic is called "Tyson vs Fury 2" ? Tyson Fury is one person Cheesy

so called Gypsy King.
Or spectators will see Fury doing shadow boxing ? Grin

I thought it was mike Tyson vs.Fury Tyson lol 😆

Quote from: DeathAngel on July 31, 2019, 09:09:14 AM

Fury got knocked down like 2 or 3 times in the first fight. I know he’s a good boxer but I don’t think you can viably claim to have won a fight if you get put on your ass multiple times in a fight. We will see what happens but I think Wilder settles the scores here & takes the win.

Well all boxers has a solid punch and we knew that even the greatest fighter can be put down by a single Uppercut so maybe this is the next chance of Tyson to prove them wrong and he can make a 1-1 standing over Wilder

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Tyson = Left hand; Fury = Right hand Cheesy

I would also go for Fury on the rematch. Wilder was the happier of the two when it was announced as draw. The guys is so skilled and fast for his size. He'll fight smarter during the rematch. It could happen early next year.

Quote from: TopTort777 on July 31, 2019, 08:32:10 AM

Come on now Grin

how can Fury be robbed, as he was knocked down twice (round 9 and 12).

Plus, according to this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuD_G_WE4Sg it took more than 10 second for Fury to recover. Judge "saved" him. If this was not last round, judge would count till 10 and stop the fight (just my opition, but I'm not a boxing pro).

By judge, you mean referee?
Fury was robbed. Rounds 9 and 12 were the only rounds that Wilder clearly won. The rest of the fight, Wilder was punching the air most of the time.

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Fury got knocked down like 2 or 3 times in the first fight. I know he’s a good boxer but I don’t think you can viably claim to have won a fight if you get put on your ass multiple times in a fight. We will see what happens but I think Wilder settles the scores here & takes the win.

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https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52003590

I think there is a thread for all UFC information and prediction that tokeweed had made but I guess you are free to do what you want and pertaining to the upcoming Deontay Wilder Vs Tyson Fury match that will be the next year 2020 on February 22 and Fury had said that he's going to knock out Wilder this time, I guess this is his wishful thinking on what he really wants to do,

And I really think this is not official yet even though there is news about the said rematch that is signed and confirms but I guess Wilder is not confirming yet that a rematch is set to date next year, Let's just wait for his confirmation and this is set to take place next year so tokeweed is not making any post about it just yet,

And here is an article about the said news.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2019/07/tyson-fury-says-deontay-wilder-rematch-is-confirmed-and-signed-for-feb-22/

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Quote from: DarkDays on July 31, 2019, 08:21:05 AM

Fury took Wilder's best punch in the 11th last time, do you really think he'll stand a better chance this time against a well-prepared Fury?

Come on now, I guarantee the bookies will favor Fury to win since he was robbed the first time.

Come on now Grin

how can Fury be robbed, as he was knocked down twice (round 9 and 12).

Plus, according to this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuD_G_WE4Sg it took more than 10 second for Fury to recover. Judge "saved" him. If this was not last round, judge would count till 10 and stop the fight (just my opition, but I'm not a boxing pro).

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Quote from: TopTort777 on July 31, 2019, 08:19:55 AM

I imagine he'll get at least another warmup fight in between, hopefully with somebody noteworthy like Pulev, and then he'll dance around Deontay once again.

Deontay wont allow him to dance around as he found the whole in Fury defence and almost KO him in the end of the match. I think Deontay will make conclusions of that and end match before 12 rounds ends.

Fury took Wilder's best punch in the 11th last time, do you really think he'll stand a better chance this time against a well-prepared Fury?

Come on now, I guarantee the bookies will favor Fury to win since he was robbed the first time.

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