The biggest fight at heavyweight will be the winner of Usyk-Fury defending all its belts against AJ. But I doubt people are interested in case Usyk beats Fury. It's less than 2 months already so if AJ is really interested in the belts especially the chance of becoming an undisputed champion, he should just wait. But I guess Eddie knows his ward is still a heavy underdog and there are a lot of low-risk-high-reward fights to exploit.
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December 29, 2023, 08:34:04 AM
The biggest fight at heavyweight will be the winner of Usyk-Fury defending all its belts against AJ. But I doubt people are interested in case Usyk beats Fury. It's less than 2 months already so if AJ is really interested in the belts especially the chance of becoming an undisputed champion, he should just wait. But I guess Eddie knows his ward is still a heavy underdog and there are a lot of low-risk-high-reward fights to exploit.
December 29, 2023, 07:15:02 AM
So AJ who hinted an interest in fighting Wilder after his fight with Wallin. AJ might get it since Wilder after that humbling defeat to Parker started to talk once again. Wilder still wanted the AJ fight a go and was even saying that AJ might use the Parker victory as an excuse and pick another opponent.
Without a big Saudi offer, it won't be surprising if AJ offers Wilder a fight in the UK. It's still big and it's easy money if AJ stays disciplined the whole fight. But AJ being the most popular heavyweight right now could choose easier fights rather than the dangerous Hrgovic, Parker, and Usyk-Fury winner. Another good option is Ngannou and the 40-year-old WBO interim champ, Zhang Zhilei.
Without a big Saudi offer, it won't be surprising if AJ offers Wilder a fight in the UK. It's still big and it's easy money if AJ stays disciplined the whole fight. But AJ being the most popular heavyweight right now could choose easier fights rather than the dangerous Hrgovic, Parker, and Usyk-Fury winner. Another good option is Ngannou and the 40-year-old WBO interim champ, Zhang Zhilei.
AJ isn't going to fight Wilder unless it's in Saudi for the big money. I still think the fight is there unless Saudi stipulated both needed to win their fights for it to happen but I'm sure they could still make it happen regardless. AJ is wanting to get back on the path for a belt so he's not going to fight Wilder or anyone else that isn't on his path to glory unless a load of money is thrown at him. Hrgovic could be his next fight and might end up a mandatory. I think AJ should try set up the Fury fight for the end of 2024. Fury will be taken up for most of 2024 fighting Usyk twice but they could make that a blockbuster fight for late 2024.
^^ Yes, it could be possible that AJ vs Parker is going to be push through by either side. I mean AJ doesn't have a dance partner, but they have to make a storyline between AJ and Parker so that they can sell that fight.
It used to be AJ vs Wilder, but we all know that Wilder didn't do his part and Wilder derail all the plans.
If Parker wanted to spoil everything they make him fight AJ, it's just the question of whether the Saudi's wanted that fight as obviously they wanted to stage the biggest fight ever in HW division.
It used to be AJ vs Wilder, but we all know that Wilder didn't do his part and Wilder derail all the plans.
If Parker wanted to spoil everything they make him fight AJ, it's just the question of whether the Saudi's wanted that fight as obviously they wanted to stage the biggest fight ever in HW division.
Parker/AJ wouldn't be a bad fight for either of them. Certainly competitive but I think AJ is wanting bigger and better things right now so unless the Saudis do throw massive amounts for it I can't see it happening. Either way 2024 should be a good year for boxing with the two Fury/Usyk fights and Zhang and Ngannou likely returning.
December 29, 2023, 04:32:02 AM
^^ Yes, it could be possible that AJ vs Parker is going to be push through by either side. I mean AJ doesn't have a dance partner, but they have to make a storyline between AJ and Parker so that they can sell that fight.
It used to be AJ vs Wilder, but we all know that Wilder didn't do his part and Wilder derail all the plans.
If Parker wanted to spoil everything they make him fight AJ, it's just the question of whether the Saudi's wanted that fight as obviously they wanted to stage the biggest fight ever in HW division.
It used to be AJ vs Wilder, but we all know that Wilder didn't do his part and Wilder derail all the plans.
If Parker wanted to spoil everything they make him fight AJ, it's just the question of whether the Saudi's wanted that fight as obviously they wanted to stage the biggest fight ever in HW division.
The biggest fight at heavyweight will be the winner of Usyk-Fury defending all its belts against AJ. But I doubt people are interested in case Usyk beats Fury. It's less than 2 months already so if AJ is really interested in the belts especially the chance of becoming an undisputed champion, he should just wait. But I guess Eddie knows his ward is still a heavy underdog and there are a lot of low-risk-high-reward fights to exploit.
Parker suffered his first defeat at the hands of AJ in a big IBF-WBO-WBA unification fight. But it was also the first time AJ went the full distance as he failed to knock out Parker. The official cards gave AJ a wide UD. I haven't watched the fight but I saw the per-round punch stats and surprisingly it was close like it should've been a draw. So I think Parker is still dangerous to AJ with less reward. Wilder, MMA star Ngannou, and 40-year-old WBO interim Zhang should be Eddie's priority.
December 29, 2023, 02:54:33 AM
^^ Yes, it could be possible that AJ vs Parker is going to be push through by either side. I mean AJ doesn't have a dance partner, but they have to make a storyline between AJ and Parker so that they can sell that fight.
It used to be AJ vs Wilder, but we all know that Wilder didn't do his part and Wilder derail all the plans.
If Parker wanted to spoil everything they make him fight AJ, it's just the question of whether the Saudi's wanted that fight as obviously they wanted to stage the biggest fight ever in HW division.
It used to be AJ vs Wilder, but we all know that Wilder didn't do his part and Wilder derail all the plans.
If Parker wanted to spoil everything they make him fight AJ, it's just the question of whether the Saudi's wanted that fight as obviously they wanted to stage the biggest fight ever in HW division.
December 28, 2023, 09:18:17 PM
I don't understand anymore what Wilder is thinking. I mean, if AJ would not choose to fight him, there's nothing he can do with that as he messed up his chance to fight with AJ by losing in a unanimous decision, the fight even has a named which is the biggest upset this year for a big fight.
AJ vs Wilder is not anymore fun to look even on paper, the performance of Wilder showed he is declining as a boxer, so might as well start again from the very start or hang the gloves to avoid more losses coming.
AJ vs Wilder is not anymore fun to look even on paper, the performance of Wilder showed he is declining as a boxer, so might as well start again from the very start or hang the gloves to avoid more losses coming.
It is actually fun. It may not be fun on paper because of Wilder's recent loss to Parker, but since the two hasn't met yet, it must be a fight to watch. Not to mention that Joshua is not actually several steps higher than Wilder. To a certain extent, we can say that both are spent fighters.
And it seems the fight is wanted by both of them. Wilder is interested. Of course, why not, right? He is still trying to be relevant. It would be a good fight for a loser like him. But Joshua on the other hand is also interested. That would still mean big money for him and probably an easy one as far as he thinks. Wilder is approaching 40. He's old. He's well exposed. And if he's defeated by a boxer that Joshua already defeated, then he should be an easier opponent. Why would he be looking for riskier matches against more dangerous opponents?
Wilder and Joshua have signed an agreement and they are now talking to make it happen. But after Wilder lost to Parker, can Saudi Arabia engage in this match? We do not know the terms, were there stipulations that they must win their matches in order to move on?
Anyhow, Wilder is correct. He lost and will lose again when matched to good boxers. So why not simply request Joshua to carry on their agreement and acquire large sums of money? Wilder can retire richer if he loses to Joshua. And Wilder can have more matches in the event that he pulls a win on Joshua.
Is it written agreement though? or it is just verbal between the camp of Joshua and Wilder. And if I'm going to put up a contract, obviously they will have to win their respective match before they can face each other and Wilder didn't carry out his terms as he lost.
And so with that, I doubt that the Saudis are willing to pay that huge money as Wilder seems to be out of his prime already.
They will have to look or maybe Joshua will have to wait for the winner of Usyk vs Fury fight.
A Joshua versus Wilder fight will probably remain interesting despite Wilder's recent loss. And I even believe that Wilder has a big chance of winning against Joshua. If Saudi Arabia isn't interested to sponsor and host this event because Wilder has already lost to Parker, then it could be held somewhere else. I think it still attracts a lot of boxing fans. It could be held in the UK. I'm sure boxing fans there would like to see Joshua fighting in his home country. With nice undercards, there would still be a big money from it.
December 28, 2023, 06:18:49 AM
I don't understand anymore what Wilder is thinking. I mean, if AJ would not choose to fight him, there's nothing he can do with that as he messed up his chance to fight with AJ by losing in a unanimous decision, the fight even has a named which is the biggest upset this year for a big fight.
AJ vs Wilder is not anymore fun to look even on paper, the performance of Wilder showed he is declining as a boxer, so might as well start again from the very start or hang the gloves to avoid more losses coming.
AJ vs Wilder is not anymore fun to look even on paper, the performance of Wilder showed he is declining as a boxer, so might as well start again from the very start or hang the gloves to avoid more losses coming.
It is actually fun. It may not be fun on paper because of Wilder's recent loss to Parker, but since the two hasn't met yet, it must be a fight to watch. Not to mention that Joshua is not actually several steps higher than Wilder. To a certain extent, we can say that both are spent fighters.
And it seems the fight is wanted by both of them. Wilder is interested. Of course, why not, right? He is still trying to be relevant. It would be a good fight for a loser like him. But Joshua on the other hand is also interested. That would still mean big money for him and probably an easy one as far as he thinks. Wilder is approaching 40. He's old. He's well exposed. And if he's defeated by a boxer that Joshua already defeated, then he should be an easier opponent. Why would he be looking for riskier matches against more dangerous opponents?
Wilder and Joshua have signed an agreement and they are now talking to make it happen. But after Wilder lost to Parker, can Saudi Arabia engage in this match? We do not know the terms, were there stipulations that they must win their matches in order to move on?
Anyhow, Wilder is correct. He lost and will lose again when matched to good boxers. So why not simply request Joshua to carry on their agreement and acquire large sums of money? Wilder can retire richer if he loses to Joshua. And Wilder can have more matches in the event that he pulls a win on Joshua.
Is it written agreement though? or it is just verbal between the camp of Joshua and Wilder. And if I'm going to put up a contract, obviously they will have to win their respective match before they can face each other and Wilder didn't carry out his terms as he lost.
And so with that, I doubt that the Saudis are willing to pay that huge money as Wilder seems to be out of his prime already.
They will have to look or maybe Joshua will have to wait for the winner of Usyk vs Fury fight.
December 27, 2023, 11:00:47 PM
I don't understand anymore what Wilder is thinking. I mean, if AJ would not choose to fight him, there's nothing he can do with that as he messed up his chance to fight with AJ by losing in a unanimous decision, the fight even has a named which is the biggest upset this year for a big fight.
AJ vs Wilder is not anymore fun to look even on paper, the performance of Wilder showed he is declining as a boxer, so might as well start again from the very start or hang the gloves to avoid more losses coming.
AJ vs Wilder is not anymore fun to look even on paper, the performance of Wilder showed he is declining as a boxer, so might as well start again from the very start or hang the gloves to avoid more losses coming.
It is actually fun. It may not be fun on paper because of Wilder's recent loss to Parker, but since the two hasn't met yet, it must be a fight to watch. Not to mention that Joshua is not actually several steps higher than Wilder. To a certain extent, we can say that both are spent fighters.
And it seems the fight is wanted by both of them. Wilder is interested. Of course, why not, right? He is still trying to be relevant. It would be a good fight for a loser like him. But Joshua on the other hand is also interested. That would still mean big money for him and probably an easy one as far as he thinks. Wilder is approaching 40. He's old. He's well exposed. And if he's defeated by a boxer that Joshua already defeated, then he should be an easier opponent. Why would he be looking for riskier matches against more dangerous opponents?
Wilder and Joshua have signed an agreement and they are now talking to make it happen. But after Wilder lost to Parker, can Saudi Arabia engage in this match? We do not know the terms, were there stipulations that they must win their matches in order to move on?
Anyhow, Wilder is correct. He lost and will lose again when matched to good boxers. So why not simply request Joshua to carry on their agreement and acquire large sums of money? Wilder can retire richer if he loses to Joshua. And Wilder can have more matches in the event that he pulls a win on Joshua.
December 27, 2023, 09:42:24 PM
I don't understand anymore what Wilder is thinking. I mean, if AJ would not choose to fight him, there's nothing he can do with that as he messed up his chance to fight with AJ by losing in a unanimous decision, the fight even has a named which is the biggest upset this year for a big fight.
AJ vs Wilder is not anymore fun to look even on paper, the performance of Wilder showed he is declining as a boxer, so might as well start again from the very start or hang the gloves to avoid more losses coming.
AJ vs Wilder is not anymore fun to look even on paper, the performance of Wilder showed he is declining as a boxer, so might as well start again from the very start or hang the gloves to avoid more losses coming.
It is actually fun. It may not be fun on paper because of Wilder's recent loss to Parker, but since the two hasn't met yet, it must be a fight to watch. Not to mention that Joshua is not actually several steps higher than Wilder. To a certain extent, we can say that both are spent fighters.
And it seems the fight is wanted by both of them. Wilder is interested. Of course, why not, right? He is still trying to be relevant. It would be a good fight for a loser like him. But Joshua on the other hand is also interested. That would still mean big money for him and probably an easy one as far as he thinks. Wilder is approaching 40. He's old. He's well exposed. And if he's defeated by a boxer that Joshua already defeated, then he should be an easier opponent. Why would he be looking for riskier matches against more dangerous opponents?
December 27, 2023, 08:47:51 PM
So AJ who hinted an interest in fighting Wilder after his fight with Wallin. AJ might get it since Wilder after that humbling defeat to Parker started to talk once again. Wilder still wanted the AJ fight a go and was even saying that AJ might use the Parker victory as an excuse and pick another opponent.
Without a big Saudi offer, it won't be surprising if AJ offers Wilder a fight in the UK. It's still big and it's easy money if AJ stays disciplined the whole fight. But AJ being the most popular heavyweight right now could choose easier fights rather than the dangerous Hrgovic, Parker, and Usyk-Fury winner. Another good option is Ngannou and the 40-year-old WBO interim champ, Zhang Zhilei.
Without a big Saudi offer, it won't be surprising if AJ offers Wilder a fight in the UK. It's still big and it's easy money if AJ stays disciplined the whole fight. But AJ being the most popular heavyweight right now could choose easier fights rather than the dangerous Hrgovic, Parker, and Usyk-Fury winner. Another good option is Ngannou and the 40-year-old WBO interim champ, Zhang Zhilei.
However, what would the fans like to pay for to watch and wintess with Joshua? We can be quite certain that it will not be Joshua vs. Wilder anymore after Wilder's loss against Parker. Also, if Joshua wants to keep earning a bigger purse and a possbility to challenge for the heavyweight championship again, I reckon he should certainly fight Zhang Zhilei. But only for money, I agree on Francis Ngannou. He is the best option.
December 27, 2023, 09:24:23 AM
So AJ who hinted an interest in fighting Wilder after his fight with Wallin. AJ might get it since Wilder after that humbling defeat to Parker started to talk once again. Wilder still wanted the AJ fight a go and was even saying that AJ might use the Parker victory as an excuse and pick another opponent.
I don't understand anymore what Wilder is thinking. I mean, if AJ would not choose to fight him, there's nothing he can do with that as he messed up his chance to fight with AJ by losing in a unanimous decision, the fight even has a named which is the biggest upset this year for a big fight.
AJ vs Wilder is not anymore fun to look even on paper, the performance of Wilder showed he is declining as a boxer, so might as well start again from the very start or hang the gloves to avoid more losses coming.
December 27, 2023, 09:17:41 AM
^^ Oh yes, I remember also reading this article as a excuses on Wilder side. And then he said that it's AJ that is more happy seeing him lost against Parker. I mean it just shows the mentality of Wilder though. And why would Joshua be happy when they agreed in principle that they will fight next and makes a lot of money?
He said that along the line that AJ is not going to face him next that's why he is now happy if Parker will be his next opponent and not him.
It just shows that Wilder is still bitter that Joshua win against Wallin. And that he is going back fighting the likes of a B-side Heavyweight boxer just to get his name into the discussion again.
He said that along the line that AJ is not going to face him next that's why he is now happy if Parker will be his next opponent and not him.
It just shows that Wilder is still bitter that Joshua win against Wallin. And that he is going back fighting the likes of a B-side Heavyweight boxer just to get his name into the discussion again.
December 27, 2023, 09:06:38 AM
So AJ who hinted an interest in fighting Wilder after his fight with Wallin. AJ might get it since Wilder after that humbling defeat to Parker started to talk once again. Wilder still wanted the AJ fight a go and was even saying that AJ might use the Parker victory as an excuse and pick another opponent.
Without a big Saudi offer, it won't be surprising if AJ offers Wilder a fight in the UK. It's still big and it's easy money if AJ stays disciplined the whole fight. But AJ being the most popular heavyweight right now could choose easier fights rather than the dangerous Hrgovic, Parker, and Usyk-Fury winner. Another good option is Ngannou and the 40-year-old WBO interim champ, Zhang Zhilei.
Maybe that is the reason why they made this news come out Without a big Saudi offer, it won't be surprising if AJ offers Wilder a fight in the UK. It's still big and it's easy money if AJ stays disciplined the whole fight. But AJ being the most popular heavyweight right now could choose easier fights rather than the dangerous Hrgovic, Parker, and Usyk-Fury winner. Another good option is Ngannou and the 40-year-old WBO interim champ, Zhang Zhilei.
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Deontay Wilder has claimed he had problems heading into his fight with Joseph Parker - after spending too long in a cryotherapy chamber.
It now seems that Wilder may have been injured going into the fight as Queensbury Promotions boss Frank Warren said to talkSPORT: “I was talking to Wilder’s manager Shelly Finkel, he was telling me that he had a problem. I thought he looked pretty dreadful. He went into one of those cryotherapy chambers and sat in it for quite a long time. I don’t know, Obviously, there’s going to be some excuse.”
It now seems that Wilder may have been injured going into the fight as Queensbury Promotions boss Frank Warren said to talkSPORT: “I was talking to Wilder’s manager Shelly Finkel, he was telling me that he had a problem. I thought he looked pretty dreadful. He went into one of those cryotherapy chambers and sat in it for quite a long time. I don’t know, Obviously, there’s going to be some excuse.”
Deontay Wilder makes unlikely excuse for performance against Joseph Parker
They make it appear that the cryotherapy chambers have something to do with it, and not really because Parker is good or Wilder is losing his touch, both fighters still want to go on with the fight, AJ wants it because he is in a comeback momentum while Wilder is still having a second thought if he wants to continue we'll know this in the coming months Wilder might turn around with the deal or he might continue but he is risking his legacy, 3 losses in 4 fights is not good usually if you lose you will cherry-picked a fight to get back your momentum, but AJ is not a cherry-picked fight.
December 27, 2023, 04:39:11 AM
So AJ who hinted an interest in fighting Wilder after his fight with Wallin. AJ might get it since Wilder after that humbling defeat to Parker started to talk once again. Wilder still wanted the AJ fight a go and was even saying that AJ might use the Parker victory as an excuse and pick another opponent.
Without a big Saudi offer, it won't be surprising if AJ offers Wilder a fight in the UK. It's still big and it's easy money if AJ stays disciplined the whole fight. But AJ being the most popular heavyweight right now could choose easier fights rather than the dangerous Hrgovic, Parker, and Usyk-Fury winner. Another good option is Ngannou and the 40-year-old WBO interim champ, Zhang Zhilei.
Without a big Saudi offer, it won't be surprising if AJ offers Wilder a fight in the UK. It's still big and it's easy money if AJ stays disciplined the whole fight. But AJ being the most popular heavyweight right now could choose easier fights rather than the dangerous Hrgovic, Parker, and Usyk-Fury winner. Another good option is Ngannou and the 40-year-old WBO interim champ, Zhang Zhilei.
December 27, 2023, 04:17:16 AM
The big fight that was missed was between welder vs anthony joshua, when both held the championship belt it was very difficult to meet. when now both are not world champions the promoter plans to bring the two together i think it has passed its momentum. the enthusiasm of the audience must have decreased. and can't make a lot of money.
But if the match is still very interesting same former world heavyweight champion
But if the match is still very interesting same former world heavyweight champion
December 27, 2023, 03:29:16 AM
You know what? I am actually really impressed that such kind of even was even managed. While we see how hard and long negotiations are with top boxers, but this time, in rather quick and easy manner UAE has organized an even with such stars. AJ, Wilder, Parker, Bivol, Dubois, Opetaia in single night. It is rare to see such. I dont care a lot about results (even though Wilder fight stands out from others), as whole event was great.
Big money can do a lot.Wilder was similar to the fighter who put on the show with Fury, except that the fighters periodically fell to the floor. Perhaps Parker has shown that Wilder is no longer the dangerous fighter we once knew.
December 27, 2023, 12:09:49 AM
I only watched the replay for these fights and it appears that the Bronze Bomber has run out of luck hehehe. What Teddy Atlas calls the eraser is already very known and his opponents already knows how to defend against this. I hope in his age he can improve and really learn how box. Francis Ngannou would have put him on a stretcher if he fought Wilder.
December 26, 2023, 03:38:30 AM
Wilder looked awful, which is no surprise because he's always been an awful fighter, but this time his devastating power was nowhere to be found. Joseph Parker managed the fight perfectly. He avoided Wilder's punches, which were few and far between, and was smart about picking the right moments to attack. Wilder isn't as fearsome as he once was. Without the capability to adjust his style, that one-shot knockout power isn't going to be enough to bail him out anymore.
The main event didn't last very long. Joshua broke Wallin down forcing the corner to stop the fight after 5 rounds. AJ looked better than he has in several years. Even with Wilder losing, the heavyweight division is in a really great spot. Any combination of fights involving Parker, Joshua, Usyk and Fury would all be very intriguing. Dubois, Ngannou and a few others are also there waiting for an opportunity to prove that they belong among these top heavyweights.
The main event didn't last very long. Joshua broke Wallin down forcing the corner to stop the fight after 5 rounds. AJ looked better than he has in several years. Even with Wilder losing, the heavyweight division is in a really great spot. Any combination of fights involving Parker, Joshua, Usyk and Fury would all be very intriguing. Dubois, Ngannou and a few others are also there waiting for an opportunity to prove that they belong among these top heavyweights.
Wilder is a one trick pony and like I said before if he doesn't knock Parker out he could and did get outboxed. You can see Wilder's right hand coming a mile off so all you've gotta do is not let him set it up. Easier said than done but Parker managed to avoid taking any huge punches and it looks like Fury gave him some helpful tips to defeat him. Wilder didn't seem hungry to me. I don't know whether his heart's not in it or that ayahuasca has made him a hippy or something but he didn't complain much after the fight just admitted he was 'off'. I hope we see him in a couple more fights. Him Vs Ngannou would be the best for both of them I think. It would probably just be a slug-fest.
You know what? I am actually really impressed that such kind of even was even managed. While we see how hard and long negotiations are with top boxers, but this time, in rather quick and easy manner UAE has organized an even with such stars. AJ, Wilder, Parker, Bivol, Dubois, Opetaia in single night. It is rare to see such. I dont care a lot about results (even though Wilder fight stands out from others), as whole event was great.
Well, it's kinda impressive given on paper it was probably the most stacked card ever, but if Saudi rang you up and offered you 10-50 million to fight but I'm sure you'd jump at the chance as did all those fighters
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December 26, 2023, 01:01:21 AM
Was not able to see the fights but based on the reports, Wilder was just too bad and Parker deserved the win, still a shame as I think that the fight between Joshua and Wilder will not be for any time soon. A great boxer can deliver a knockout punch but can also receive one and Fury is the best example for that.
Most likely he underestimated his opponent and didn't really take it seriously. I think they only want the payment and it was really a surprising event because we never see such fights in one night, especially with these kinds of boxers, especially the heavyweights. they are given huge paychecks and no one could really decline such an offer because mostly they are after the money when they want to fight someone. No one really loss in their fight because they received their payment well and those who won had another chance to get to fight for that country again.
Anyone can speculate that a heavy favorite fighter losing is due to him underestimating his opponnet, but that's not the real case here. Wilder is already scheduled for a bigger fight after that fight and he will be up against AJ, so that fight has a lot at stake for him, its his future in boxing. Now, he's back to the beginning as he won't be able to fight AJ anymore since he lose, and it's not even a close one since he lose via Unanimous decision.
And this was his statement relating to the loss.
https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/news-deontay-wilder-clears-air-rumored-retirement-statement-shocking-saudi-arabia-loss-joseph-parker
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We came out short tonight. You know what, I don’t know what happened to be honest. My timing was off and I didn’t throw my punches, I didn’t let my hands go like I was supposed to. Sometimes you get like that. But you live to see another fight. You live to see another moment.”
So for me it could be the case of all this 3, he thought that Parker is going to be easy for him and so he might not train that hard. Or maybe he had train for many weeks already leading to this fight and that's why during fight night, he can't pull the trigger anymore.
It's good to hear that he sounded positive still despite the lost.
But definitely the big fight with AJ is off for now, and you can also hear AJ's voice during the post fight interview that it seems the Wilder let him down with their supposedly mega fight next year in February.
December 26, 2023, 12:33:50 AM
You know what? I am actually really impressed that such kind of even was even managed. While we see how hard and long negotiations are with top boxers, but this time, in rather quick and easy manner UAE has organized an even with such stars. AJ, Wilder, Parker, Bivol, Dubois, Opetaia in single night. It is rare to see such. I dont care a lot about results (even though Wilder fight stands out from others), as whole event was great.
It was made possible because promoters are willing to spend a lot of money to make it happen. We have lots of rich people in that country, just like when they hosted the Fury vs Ngannou fight, both made a decent paycheck. There are even rumors before that they are willing to pay big money just to make a Pacman vs Marquez after Marquez KO Pacman cold but Marquez decline a huge offer, so we can say that there's a lot of money there.
Of course, there will be enough money for everyone, but it's the question, as a boxing fan are you willing to watch the fight though?
It's not comparable to Manny vs JMM, they have history together and it's a back and forth war, they go at it during their primes. Not like this one, in which they have a chance to fight early when they haven't lost but refuses because they want to create more hype in their names.
But now it's a different story, might be good it Wilder will go on another cherry pick up if he wanted to continue with his career.
December 25, 2023, 08:47:01 AM
Was not able to see the fights but based on the reports, Wilder was just too bad and Parker deserved the win, still a shame as I think that the fight between Joshua and Wilder will not be for any time soon. A great boxer can deliver a knockout punch but can also receive one and Fury is the best example for that.
Most likely he underestimated his opponent and didn't really take it seriously. I think they only want the payment and it was really a surprising event because we never see such fights in one night, especially with these kinds of boxers, especially the heavyweights. they are given huge paychecks and no one could really decline such an offer because mostly they are after the money when they want to fight someone. No one really loss in their fight because they received their payment well and those who won had another chance to get to fight for that country again.
Anyone can speculate that a heavy favorite fighter losing is due to him underestimating his opponnet, but that's not the real case here. Wilder is already scheduled for a bigger fight after that fight and he will be up against AJ, so that fight has a lot at stake for him, its his future in boxing. Now, he's back to the beginning as he won't be able to fight AJ anymore since he lose, and it's not even a close one since he lose via Unanimous decision.
And this was his statement relating to the loss.
https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/news-deontay-wilder-clears-air-rumored-retirement-statement-shocking-saudi-arabia-loss-joseph-parker
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We came out short tonight. You know what, I don’t know what happened to be honest. My timing was off and I didn’t throw my punches, I didn’t let my hands go like I was supposed to. Sometimes you get like that. But you live to see another fight. You live to see another moment.”
December 25, 2023, 07:23:00 AM
Was not able to see the fights but based on the reports, Wilder was just too bad and Parker deserved the win, still a shame as I think that the fight between Joshua and Wilder will not be for any time soon. A great boxer can deliver a knockout punch but can also receive one and Fury is the best example for that.
Most likely he underestimated his opponent and didn't really take it seriously. I think they only want the payment and it was really a surprising event because we never see such fights in one night, especially with these kinds of boxers, especially the heavyweights. they are given huge paychecks and no one could really decline such an offer because mostly they are after the money when they want to fight someone. No one really loss in their fight because they received their payment well and those who won had another chance to get to fight for that country again.
December 25, 2023, 06:50:36 AM
You know what? I am actually really impressed that such kind of even was even managed. While we see how hard and long negotiations are with top boxers, but this time, in rather quick and easy manner UAE has organized an even with such stars. AJ, Wilder, Parker, Bivol, Dubois, Opetaia in single night. It is rare to see such. I dont care a lot about results (even though Wilder fight stands out from others), as whole event was great.
It was made possible because promoters are willing to spend a lot of money to make it happen. We have lots of rich people in that country, just like when they hosted the Fury vs Ngannou fight, both made a decent paycheck. There are even rumors before that they are willing to pay big money just to make a Pacman vs Marquez after Marquez KO Pacman cold but Marquez decline a huge offer, so we can say that there's a lot of money there.
Money not always open all the doors and help to make decisions. Even though UAE have lots of rich people, there are still limits of how much they are ready to spend. Take Fury vs Usyk for example. How long does it took those two to finally sign a contract? All those negotiations. A think more than a year have passed. And whole this event was organized in 2-3 months only. I am sure they did not just threw billion-zillion-trillion into boxers to make this event to happen.
Regardless on how and how long they go with the negotiations, what's important is that the fight is already happening. UAE has been competiting with the biggest venue fo boxing in the US, so with this, it gives more opportunity for the boxers who have better record and are exciting to fight because their market are getting bigger.
Follow the trend and we shall see what's happening, IMO, this is just a start, more and more big fights will be held in this country in the future.
December 25, 2023, 05:16:28 AM
You know what? I am actually really impressed that such kind of even was even managed. While we see how hard and long negotiations are with top boxers, but this time, in rather quick and easy manner UAE has organized an even with such stars. AJ, Wilder, Parker, Bivol, Dubois, Opetaia in single night. It is rare to see such. I dont care a lot about results (even though Wilder fight stands out from others), as whole event was great.
It was made possible because promoters are willing to spend a lot of money to make it happen. We have lots of rich people in that country, just like when they hosted the Fury vs Ngannou fight, both made a decent paycheck. There are even rumors before that they are willing to pay big money just to make a Pacman vs Marquez after Marquez KO Pacman cold but Marquez decline a huge offer, so we can say that there's a lot of money there.
Money not always open all the doors and help to make decisions. Even though UAE have lots of rich people, there are still limits of how much they are ready to spend. Take Fury vs Usyk for example. How long does it took those two to finally sign a contract? All those negotiations. A think more than a year have passed. And whole this event was organized in 2-3 months only. I am sure they did not just threw billion-zillion-trillion into boxers to make this event to happen.
December 24, 2023, 01:56:48 PM
And there you have it, Wilder lost the fight in the judges scorecard, scores were 118-111, 118-110 and 120-107, all for Parker. So the supposedly fight with AJ could have been derailed already with this lost from Parker.
I think Fury already taken Wilder's soul, hehehe. Not sure why Wilder perform this bad in the biggest stage. And there were moments in fight wherein Parker made Wilder ridiculous.
I think Fury already taken Wilder's soul, hehehe. Not sure why Wilder perform this bad in the biggest stage. And there were moments in fight wherein Parker made Wilder ridiculous.
I had it 120-108 but 2 of the judges scored it to Wilder when he landed some heavy shots although Parker landed his own and was still in control. I'm just surprised Parker showed the younger version of himself. He was supposed to be slow and past his prime but he was damn quick against Wilder. His stance made it difficult for Wilder to become aggressive.
AJ said he is still willing to fight Wilder. I guess it's easy money for AJ and will still fill a stadium in the UK. Hopefully, Usyk retires after beating Fury so all these contenders will fight for the belts.
Since Wilder's prospect days, I always have had doubts about him. I always see him as gifted with an iron fist but that's all. Wilder has low-level skills and there were many times he was losing rounds before landing his heavy punches saving him from defeats.
Was not able to see the fights but based on the reports, Wilder was just too bad and Parker deserved the win, still a shame as I think that the fight between Joshua and Wilder will not be for any time soon. A great boxer can deliver a knockout punch but can also receive one and Fury is the best example for that.
December 24, 2023, 10:04:03 AM
You know what? I am actually really impressed that such kind of even was even managed. While we see how hard and long negotiations are with top boxers, but this time, in rather quick and easy manner UAE has organized an even with such stars. AJ, Wilder, Parker, Bivol, Dubois, Opetaia in single night. It is rare to see such. I dont care a lot about results (even though Wilder fight stands out from others), as whole event was great.
It was made possible because promoters are willing to spend a lot of money to make it happen. We have lots of rich people in that country, just like when they hosted the Fury vs Ngannou fight, both made a decent paycheck. There are even rumors before that they are willing to pay big money just to make a Pacman vs Marquez after Marquez KO Pacman cold but Marquez decline a huge offer, so we can say that there's a lot of money there.
December 24, 2023, 06:47:55 AM
You know what? I am actually really impressed that such kind of even was even managed. While we see how hard and long negotiations are with top boxers, but this time, in rather quick and easy manner UAE has organized an even with such stars. AJ, Wilder, Parker, Bivol, Dubois, Opetaia in single night. It is rare to see such. I dont care a lot about results (even though Wilder fight stands out from others), as whole event was great.
December 24, 2023, 02:16:56 AM
And there you have it, Wilder lost the fight in the judges scorecard, scores were 118-111, 118-110 and 120-107, all for Parker. So the supposedly fight with AJ could have been derailed already with this lost from Parker.
I think Fury already taken Wilder's soul, hehehe. Not sure why Wilder perform this bad in the biggest stage. And there were moments in fight wherein Parker made Wilder ridiculous.
I think Fury already taken Wilder's soul, hehehe. Not sure why Wilder perform this bad in the biggest stage. And there were moments in fight wherein Parker made Wilder ridiculous.
I had it 120-108 but 2 of the judges scored it to Wilder when he landed some heavy shots although Parker landed his own and was still in control. I'm just surprised Parker showed the younger version of himself. He was supposed to be slow and past his prime but he was damn quick against Wilder. His stance made it difficult for Wilder to become aggressive.
AJ said he is still willing to fight Wilder. I guess it's easy money for AJ and will still fill a stadium in the UK. Hopefully, Usyk retires after beating Fury so all these contenders will fight for the belts.
Since Wilder's prospect days, I always have had doubts about him. I always see him as gifted with an iron fist but that's all. Wilder has low-level skills and there were many times he was losing rounds before landing his heavy punches saving him from defeats.
December 24, 2023, 01:23:32 AM
What could be next for Wilder. is it time to hang the gloves for good? That fight was for him to win but upset happened.
Well what can you expect from a guy who just fought one round with two years off, his timing was off, and he cannot set up his right shot properly because of a lack of jabs, all Parker has done is frustrate him throughout the fight Parker dominated him all rounds what's funny is after Buffer reads the score card Wilder was seen raising his hand as if he thought that he won the fight, nobody will agree that he won this fight, its a total domination and Parker is not even considered a high ranked boxer, I prefer to see a Fury - Joshua fight than a Wilder - Joshua, his time is almost over.
Here's a highlight of that fight
JOSEPH PARKER VS DIONTAY WILDER/ FULLFIGHT HIGHLIGHTS/DECEMBER 23,2023
December 23, 2023, 11:03:27 PM
Here is the recap of this big event
Anthony Joshua def. Otto Wallin via fifth-round KO
~snip~
Unfortunately, Wilder could not deliver, he was looking to land that huge right but unfortunately, Parker's defense did not allow him, Joshua - Wilder is now hanging in the balance because of this, maybe a Fury - Joshua is more realistic if Fury beats Usyk in their coming fight I wonder where will Wilder after this fight he will have a hard time climbing into the top rank because of this huge upset.
Anthony Joshua def. Otto Wallin via fifth-round KO
~snip~
Unfortunately, Wilder could not deliver, he was looking to land that huge right but unfortunately, Parker's defense did not allow him, Joshua - Wilder is now hanging in the balance because of this, maybe a Fury - Joshua is more realistic if Fury beats Usyk in their coming fight I wonder where will Wilder after this fight he will have a hard time climbing into the top rank because of this huge upset.
With that KO win of Joshua we could now expect a fight between him and Fury if the latter will dispose of Usyk. Though Wallin is not a tough opponent but that KO win has somehow give Joshua some confidence that was not in him for a long time since that defeat from the hands of Andy Ruiz.
What could be next for Wilder. is it time to hang the gloves for good? That fight was for him to win but upset happened.
Parker mentioned and even thanked Fury for the advice he gave on how to beat Wilder and it worked, throughout Wilder's title defenses he's beaten fighters who cannot be considered top level, and when he faced top level fighters this is what's going to happen.
Wilder has been exposed and will continue to be exposed as a one-dimensional fighter who just waits and relies on his power, Parker has a game plan and the game plan is very similar to what Fury implemented do not fall into Wilder's range and use a lot of jabs and reach in punches and gas him out until he cannot keep up because Wilder is not used to fighting long distance.
In his interview, he mentioned he will move and go on to the next thing, this is already a hint that he will continue fighting but if he cannot have a performance like this against top-level fighters, he has become so easy to figure out.
December 23, 2023, 09:19:33 PM
Here is the recap of this big event
Anthony Joshua def. Otto Wallin via fifth-round KO
~snip~
Unfortunately, Wilder could not deliver, he was looking to land that huge right but unfortunately, Parker's defense did not allow him, Joshua - Wilder is now hanging in the balance because of this, maybe a Fury - Joshua is more realistic if Fury beats Usyk in their coming fight I wonder where will Wilder after this fight he will have a hard time climbing into the top rank because of this huge upset.
Anthony Joshua def. Otto Wallin via fifth-round KO
~snip~
Unfortunately, Wilder could not deliver, he was looking to land that huge right but unfortunately, Parker's defense did not allow him, Joshua - Wilder is now hanging in the balance because of this, maybe a Fury - Joshua is more realistic if Fury beats Usyk in their coming fight I wonder where will Wilder after this fight he will have a hard time climbing into the top rank because of this huge upset.
With that KO win of Joshua we could now expect a fight between him and Fury if the latter will dispose of Usyk. Though Wallin is not a tough opponent but that KO win has somehow give Joshua some confidence that was not in him for a long time since that defeat from the hands of Andy Ruiz.
What could be next for Wilder. is it time to hang the gloves for good? That fight was for him to win but upset happened.
December 23, 2023, 07:38:45 PM
Wilder looked awful, which is no surprise because he's always been an awful fighter, but this time his devastating power was nowhere to be found. Joseph Parker managed the fight perfectly. He avoided Wilder's punches, which were few and far between, and was smart about picking the right moments to attack. Wilder isn't as fearsome as he once was. Without the capability to adjust his style, that one-shot knockout power isn't going to be enough to bail him out anymore.
The main event didn't last very long. Joshua broke Wallin down forcing the corner to stop the fight after 5 rounds. AJ looked better than he has in several years. Even with Wilder losing, the heavyweight division is in a really great spot. Any combination of fights involving Parker, Joshua, Usyk and Fury would all be very intriguing. Dubois, Ngannou and a few others are also there waiting for an opportunity to prove that they belong among these top heavyweights.
The main event didn't last very long. Joshua broke Wallin down forcing the corner to stop the fight after 5 rounds. AJ looked better than he has in several years. Even with Wilder losing, the heavyweight division is in a really great spot. Any combination of fights involving Parker, Joshua, Usyk and Fury would all be very intriguing. Dubois, Ngannou and a few others are also there waiting for an opportunity to prove that they belong among these top heavyweights.
December 23, 2023, 07:23:07 PM
Here is the recap of this big event
Anthony Joshua def. Otto Wallin via fifth-round KO
Joseph Parker def. Deontay Wilder via unanimous decision
Dmitry Bivol def. Lyndon Arthur via unanimous decision (120-107 x3)
Daniel Dubois def. Jarrell Miller via 10th-round TKO (2:52)
Agit Kabayel def. Arslanbek Makhmudov via fourth-round TKO (2:03)
Jai Opetaia def. Ellis Zorro via first-round KO (2:56) |
Filip Hrgovic def. Mark De Mori via first-round TKO (1:46)
Frank Sanchez def. Junior Fa via seventh-round TKO (2:42)
Unfortunately, Wilder could not deliver, he was looking to land that huge right but unfortunately, Parker's defense did not allow him, Joshua - Wilder is now hanging in the balance because of this, maybe a Fury - Joshua is more realistic if Fury beats Usyk in their coming fight I wonder where will Wilder after this fight he will have a hard time climbing into the top rank because of this huge upset.
Anthony Joshua def. Otto Wallin via fifth-round KO
Joseph Parker def. Deontay Wilder via unanimous decision
Dmitry Bivol def. Lyndon Arthur via unanimous decision (120-107 x3)
Daniel Dubois def. Jarrell Miller via 10th-round TKO (2:52)
Agit Kabayel def. Arslanbek Makhmudov via fourth-round TKO (2:03)
Jai Opetaia def. Ellis Zorro via first-round KO (2:56) |
Filip Hrgovic def. Mark De Mori via first-round TKO (1:46)
Frank Sanchez def. Junior Fa via seventh-round TKO (2:42)
Unfortunately, Wilder could not deliver, he was looking to land that huge right but unfortunately, Parker's defense did not allow him, Joshua - Wilder is now hanging in the balance because of this, maybe a Fury - Joshua is more realistic if Fury beats Usyk in their coming fight I wonder where will Wilder after this fight he will have a hard time climbing into the top rank because of this huge upset.
December 23, 2023, 06:54:07 PM
I haven't seen the full fight, I just saw when it was announced that Parker is the winner. And what makes the result very interesting is how the judges see it. I have to watch and see if Parker schooled Wilder from round one.
Maybe the Bronze Bomber rely on his power but Parker knows that and so he keeps on moving from that right hand of Wilder. So it is that Wilder is already out and that we have seen him having sort of mental problems after the Fury lost.
Maybe the Bronze Bomber rely on his power but Parker knows that and so he keeps on moving from that right hand of Wilder. So it is that Wilder is already out and that we have seen him having sort of mental problems after the Fury lost.
December 23, 2023, 06:33:15 PM
This is a big shocker Wilder just lost to Joseph Parker by a unanimous decision Parker dominated Wilder from start to finish he could not land his big right he was stationary while Parker was moving and had good timing with his jabs and right, it must be because of a very long lay off and not facing a high caliber fighter like Parker, Joseph attributed his winnings to Fury's advice and training with him, it looks like we are not going to see the Wilder -Joshua match, after this upset.
Most like yes, we will not see the fight between AJ and Wilder anymore as he lost this fight. What's the record if Wilder in the last 4 fights? 1-3? I think he is done with this lost. Of course he can still make a comeback and make some money along the way. But I guess he is no longer in his prime, we can say that it's because of the long layoff, but with the way Parker dominated him? Nah, I don't think so.
Judges even didn't give him a round to win in this fight. So AJ might have been pissed off because he won't be able to fight Wilder.
They should have face way before, like 2018 when both are two of the hottest HW. But now, it's going to be too late as fans might not be interested anymore.
December 23, 2023, 06:27:09 PM
And there you have it, Wilder lost the fight in the judges scorecard, scores were 118-111, 118-110 and 120-107, all for Parker. So the supposedly fight with AJ could have been derailed already with this lost from Parker.
I think Fury already taken Wilder's soul, hehehe. Not sure why Wilder perform this bad in the biggest stage. And there were moments in fight wherein Parker made Wilder ridiculous.
I think Fury already taken Wilder's soul, hehehe. Not sure why Wilder perform this bad in the biggest stage. And there were moments in fight wherein Parker made Wilder ridiculous.
December 23, 2023, 06:21:49 PM
This is a big shocker Wilder just lost to Joseph Parker by a unanimous decision Parker dominated Wilder from start to finish he could not land his big right he was stationary while Parker was moving and had good timing with his jabs and right, it must be because of a very long lay off and not facing a high caliber fighter like Parker, Joseph attributed his winnings to Fury's advice and training with him, it looks like we are not going to see the Wilder -Joshua match, after this upset.
December 23, 2023, 05:30:27 PM
Here is the update on these big events
Dmitry Bivol def. Lyndon Arthur via unanimous decision (120-107 x3)
Daniel Dubois def. Jarrell Miller via 10th-round TKO (2:52)
Agit Kabayel def. Arslanbek Makhmudov via fourth-round TKO (2:03)
Jai Opetaia def. Ellis Zorro via first-round KO (2:56) | Watch finish
Filip Hrgovic def. Mark De Mori via first-round TKO (1:46)
Frank Sanchez def. Junior Fa via seventh-round TKO (2:42)
The Wilder-Parker is now undergoing, and the fight lacks action as both fighters are keeping each other at bay Wilder is trying to look for an opening to blast the power of his right but Parker does not want to give him a chance, Parker is leading in an unofficial scorecard.
Dmitry Bivol def. Lyndon Arthur via unanimous decision (120-107 x3)
Daniel Dubois def. Jarrell Miller via 10th-round TKO (2:52)
Agit Kabayel def. Arslanbek Makhmudov via fourth-round TKO (2:03)
Jai Opetaia def. Ellis Zorro via first-round KO (2:56) | Watch finish
Filip Hrgovic def. Mark De Mori via first-round TKO (1:46)
Frank Sanchez def. Junior Fa via seventh-round TKO (2:42)
The Wilder-Parker is now undergoing, and the fight lacks action as both fighters are keeping each other at bay Wilder is trying to look for an opening to blast the power of his right but Parker does not want to give him a chance, Parker is leading in an unofficial scorecard.
December 22, 2023, 01:54:22 PM
They had the weigh-ins earlier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MeitvOM5PQ
Not publicly announced but it's looking like it's a done deal. Eddie Hearn yesterday said an announcement will likely be made after the card, but it's probably a similar situation to the Usyk/Fury fight where Fury's performance lead to the delay as that was the fight that was meant to be tomorrow instead of this one. If AJ and Wilder win comfortably or without much damage then I'm sure the fight will be announced in the ring tomorrow but if one of them loses then it's gonna throw a spanner in the works.
@hilariousetc. Have Joshua and Wilder also agreed that their fight will again be in Saudi Arabia?
The skeptical me thinks that if Joshua and Wilder have already signed a contract and it is agreed to also be in Saudi Arabia then there might be some people that will make it quite certain that they will win their fights spectacularly with knockouts heheehehee.
The skeptical me thinks that if Joshua and Wilder have already signed a contract and it is agreed to also be in Saudi Arabia then there might be some people that will make it quite certain that they will win their fights spectacularly with knockouts heheehehee.
Not publicly announced but it's looking like it's a done deal. Eddie Hearn yesterday said an announcement will likely be made after the card, but it's probably a similar situation to the Usyk/Fury fight where Fury's performance lead to the delay as that was the fight that was meant to be tomorrow instead of this one. If AJ and Wilder win comfortably or without much damage then I'm sure the fight will be announced in the ring tomorrow but if one of them loses then it's gonna throw a spanner in the works.
December 22, 2023, 09:29:46 AM
The press conference is just getting started guys -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NK24-TGnky8
It’ll be interesting to see how Joshua & Wilder conduct themselves. They have both already hinted towards a potential fight in the future, if they both win on Saturday.
sportsbet.io odds - https://sportsbet.io/sports/boxing/matches/future
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NK24-TGnky8
It’ll be interesting to see how Joshua & Wilder conduct themselves. They have both already hinted towards a potential fight in the future, if they both win on Saturday.
sportsbet.io odds - https://sportsbet.io/sports/boxing/matches/future
All the matchups are worth watching this is indeed a mega-fight no championship belts are on the line for the Heavyweight but this is a crucial fights for every participant in mega-fights one interesting matchup that caught my attention is the Dubois - Miller matchup, the faceoff is very intense and the roasting is very funny I'm sure this too will go at it I have this feeling that this is the most exciting match that will produce a lot of action because both fighters are almost equal in their style and power.
I'm also hoping Wilder and Joshua win so they can finally meet after years of unfruitful negotiation.
Daniel Dubois doesn't BACK DOWN from Jarrell Miller in TENSE face off at final presser
December 21, 2023, 11:17:14 AM
The press conference is just getting started guys -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NK24-TGnky8
It’ll be interesting to see how Joshua & Wilder conduct themselves. They have both already hinted towards a potential fight in the future, if they both win on Saturday.
sportsbet.io odds - https://sportsbet.io/sports/boxing/matches/future
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NK24-TGnky8
It’ll be interesting to see how Joshua & Wilder conduct themselves. They have both already hinted towards a potential fight in the future, if they both win on Saturday.
sportsbet.io odds - https://sportsbet.io/sports/boxing/matches/future
December 21, 2023, 01:50:33 AM
@hilariousetc. Have Joshua and Wilder also agreed that their fight will again be in Saudi Arabia?
The skeptical me thinks that if Joshua and Wilder have already signed a contract and it is agreed to also be in Saudi Arabia then there might be some people that will make it quite certain that they will win their fights spectacularly with knockouts heheehehee.
The skeptical me thinks that if Joshua and Wilder have already signed a contract and it is agreed to also be in Saudi Arabia then there might be some people that will make it quite certain that they will win their fights spectacularly with knockouts heheehehee.
Promoters have let that fight marinate for far too long. They don't have much of a choice but to fight each other if they want to remain relevant. If they drag it out further then either one of them could lose again and the interest in that matchup would be completely gone. If they are both fighting on the same card as main and co-main event then it is logical to conclude that there is an understanding for them to fight each other next. When there is so much money at stake for Matchroom and the sanctioning organizations it wouldn't be surprising if there was an early stoppage or a a controversial decision to ensure their desired outcome.
December 20, 2023, 11:40:39 PM
@hilariousetc. Have Joshua and Wilder also agreed that their fight will again be in Saudi Arabia?
The skeptical me thinks that if Joshua and Wilder have already signed a contract and it is agreed to also be in Saudi Arabia then there might be some people that will make it quite certain that they will win their fights spectacularly with knockouts heheehehee.
The skeptical me thinks that if Joshua and Wilder have already signed a contract and it is agreed to also be in Saudi Arabia then there might be some people that will make it quite certain that they will win their fights spectacularly with knockouts heheehehee.
If I'm not mistaken, they could have agreed already in principle to have the fight in Saudi Arabia. We even have news that it could happen this December, if not for Fury needed more time to heal before of the beating he got from Usyk.
Because the initial plan was December with:
Fury vs Usyk
Joshua vs Wilder
So now the December fight for Joshua and Wilder is just a get busy fight and hopefully there will be no derailing this February.
December 20, 2023, 09:39:42 PM
@hilariousetc. Have Joshua and Wilder also agreed that their fight will again be in Saudi Arabia?
The skeptical me thinks that if Joshua and Wilder have already signed a contract and it is agreed to also be in Saudi Arabia then there might be some people that will make it quite certain that they will win their fights spectacularly with knockouts heheehehee.
The skeptical me thinks that if Joshua and Wilder have already signed a contract and it is agreed to also be in Saudi Arabia then there might be some people that will make it quite certain that they will win their fights spectacularly with knockouts heheehehee.
December 20, 2023, 07:58:24 AM
The fans will certainly also want Deontay Wilder vs. Anthony Joshua if they win on their own fights against Parker and Wallin hehehe. Make the winner of this challenge the champion. This will also hype their names and it will make them more deserving to challenge for the heavyweight championship.
Wilder vs AJ and Wallin vs Parker would be more balanced fights, as we gonna see two boxers obviously beaten in few days. Would be more cool if this were a tournament, and the winners of AJ vs Wallin and Wilder vs Parker fight among each other. To bad that can only happen in K1 or MMA. Real challenge would be between Dubois and Miller. This is the fight where it is hard to tell who would be a winner.
Also, if Fury wins against Usyk, it would be boring to see another Fury vs. Wilder fight. A Fury vs. Joshua fight might also not be very exciting for the fans because Joshua lost to Usyk twice already.
We have Zhilei Zhang, he wasnt involved yet in those Game of Thrones between Wilder-Usyk-Fury-AJ. He might be an interesting opponent.
It looks like the AJ/Wilder fight is already signed, but I'm not so sure AJ will make it past Wallin easy and I don't have that much confidence in him. He struggles against southpaws and Otto has only lost to Tyson Fury and he was lucky that fight wasn't stopped for the nasty cut. I think the money is on an upset personally. If Wilder doesn't KO Parker then I could see him losing on points. I would love to Zhang against Fury or Usyk but I think most boxers will avoid him like the plague.
December 20, 2023, 05:02:17 AM
The fans will certainly also want Deontay Wilder vs. Anthony Joshua if they win on their own fights against Parker and Wallin hehehe. Make the winner of this challenge the champion. This will also hype their names and it will make them more deserving to challenge for the heavyweight championship.
Wilder vs AJ and Wallin vs Parker would be more balanced fights, as we gonna see two boxers obviously beaten in few days. Would be more cool if this were a tournament, and the winners of AJ vs Wallin and Wilder vs Parker fight among each other. To bad that can only happen in K1 or MMA. Real challenge would be between Dubois and Miller. This is the fight where it is hard to tell who would be a winner.
Also, if Fury wins against Usyk, it would be boring to see another Fury vs. Wilder fight. A Fury vs. Joshua fight might also not be very exciting for the fans because Joshua lost to Usyk twice already.
We have Zhilei Zhang, he wasnt involved yet in those Game of Thrones between Wilder-Usyk-Fury-AJ. He might be an interesting opponent.
December 19, 2023, 11:06:48 PM
So far Parker 5:1 underdog against Wilder. Otto Wallin, almost 4:1 underdog. So that speaks that this is just a confidence boosting match.
With those odds, it seems like an easy fight for Wilder. The thing is, when Wilder struggles against his opponents, he tends to lose, and that has only happened against Fury. So, against Parker, I believe it could be an easy KO for Wilder. Despite being defeated by Fury, Wilder is making a comeback, and if he continues to improve his ranking, there's a good chance he'll make a strong return.
Looking ahead to Fury vs. Usyk, if Fury wins, both AJ and Wilder might be forced to fight the champion for another shot. If that happens, fans might not be as excited, given Wilder's previous losses to Fury. However, against AJ, it could be different as we haven't seen him fight Fury. Yet, according to the books, AJ appears to be an easy target for Fury. These are just possibilities for the future, so for more exciting bouts in the heavyweight division, let's hope Usyk can beat Fury, as things could become uncertain against AJ or Wilder.
The fans will certainly also want Deontay Wilder vs. Anthony Joshua if they win on their own fights against Parker and Wallin hehehe. Make the winner of this challenge the champion. This will also hype their names and it will make them more deserving to challenge for the heavyweight championship.
Also, if Fury wins against Usyk, it would be boring to see another Fury vs. Wilder fight. A Fury vs. Joshua fight might also not be very exciting for the fans because Joshua lost to Usyk twice already.
Wilder vs. Joshua would be a good match if both wins in their respective fights in Saudi, but it seems it's only good because of their names. Personally, I don't see anything in Joshua that would be a serious threat against Wilder. In fact, I'd rather see the old man Zhang face Wilder next. We will see whose power prevails. That would be a lot more interesting than a Wilder-Joshua match.
The heavyweight division would be boring if limited to these fighters. They're already crossing paths. I wonder if it becomes more exciting if upsets happen. And then there are other top ones like Sanchez or Hrgovic or even Ruiz to create fresh match ups.
December 19, 2023, 09:16:49 PM
So far Parker 5:1 underdog against Wilder. Otto Wallin, almost 4:1 underdog. So that speaks that this is just a confidence boosting match.
With those odds, it seems like an easy fight for Wilder. The thing is, when Wilder struggles against his opponents, he tends to lose, and that has only happened against Fury. So, against Parker, I believe it could be an easy KO for Wilder. Despite being defeated by Fury, Wilder is making a comeback, and if he continues to improve his ranking, there's a good chance he'll make a strong return.
Looking ahead to Fury vs. Usyk, if Fury wins, both AJ and Wilder might be forced to fight the champion for another shot. If that happens, fans might not be as excited, given Wilder's previous losses to Fury. However, against AJ, it could be different as we haven't seen him fight Fury. Yet, according to the books, AJ appears to be an easy target for Fury. These are just possibilities for the future, so for more exciting bouts in the heavyweight division, let's hope Usyk can beat Fury, as things could become uncertain against AJ or Wilder.
The fans will certainly also want Deontay Wilder vs. Anthony Joshua if they win on their own fights against Parker and Wallin hehehe. Make the winner of this challenge the champion. This will also hype their names and it will make them more deserving to challenge for the heavyweight championship.
Also, if Fury wins against Usyk, it would be boring to see another Fury vs. Wilder fight. A Fury vs. Joshua fight might also not be very exciting for the fans because Joshua lost to Usyk twice already.
December 19, 2023, 09:00:30 PM
If the two of them win in their respective matches, then it is becoming more probable for them to face each other next. If that happens, I agree with your that Wilder would be the favorite. And I also think that Wilder might knockout Joshua.
That is the plan in the beginning, Wilder and Joshua having a tune up with low risk opponents, just to get that cobwebs out before this two fight at the undercard of Usyk vs Fury.
So far Parker 5:1 underdog against Wilder. Otto Wallin, almost 4:1 underdog. So that speaks that this is just a confidence boosting match.
The odds will be decided only after the fights because it also depends on how they perform. I believe both AJ and Wilder aren't as mentally stable as before. But in these fights, AJ is fighting the better opponent. The last time there were odds between these 2 popular heavyweights was when they were undefeated and AJ is always favored. Wallin is unbeaten since losing a decision to Fury a few years ago so he will be more confident of an upset while Parker at this current stage of his career is just too slow to threaten the unskillful but dynamite-fisted Wilder.
But I'll be more interested in seeing the world champions in this event, Dmitry Bivol and Jai Opetaia. Jai had confirmed that he will be helping Tyson Fury after his fight. The bad news is Jai also vacated his belt already because he prefers the life-changing offer in this event rather than face his mandatory.
Yes it is interesting to watch the world champions in this event as well but the reality is that Bivol and Jai's matches are more lop-sided than Wilder and Joshua's. They are all favorites but Wilder has odds of 1.15 and Joshua has 1.22. On the other hand, the inactive Bivol has odds of 1.01 and Jai has the same 1.01. If odds truly reflect the probabilities of all fighters to win then Wilder and Joshua's opponents have better chances of getting an upset than Bivol and Jai's. It seems Bivol and Jai are already sure winners if we look at their odds.
December 19, 2023, 02:51:45 PM
So far Parker 5:1 underdog against Wilder. Otto Wallin, almost 4:1 underdog. So that speaks that this is just a confidence boosting match.
With those odds, it seems like an easy fight for Wilder. The thing is, when Wilder struggles against his opponents, he tends to lose, and that has only happened against Fury. So, against Parker, I believe it could be an easy KO for Wilder. Despite being defeated by Fury, Wilder is making a comeback, and if he continues to improve his ranking, there's a good chance he'll make a strong return.
Looking ahead to Fury vs. Usyk, if Fury wins, both AJ and Wilder might be forced to fight the champion for another shot. If that happens, fans might not be as excited, given Wilder's previous losses to Fury. However, against AJ, it could be different as we haven't seen him fight Fury. Yet, according to the books, AJ appears to be an easy target for Fury. These are just possibilities for the future, so for more exciting bouts in the heavyweight division, let's hope Usyk can beat Fury, as things could become uncertain against AJ or Wilder.
I think against Ortiz, he also struggle as Ortiz is very strong in the first early rounds. But when Wilder started to get hot and then he is hitting those bombs against Ortiz, it was just a matter of time before he caught him good and knock him down. However, against Fury it's a different story though, Tyson Fury was really controlling the fight and didn't get Wilder some space to make him comfortable.
And I do agree that this fight is just a busy fight for the two, Wilder and Joshua.
We might hear Parker and Wallin talking about derailing the supposedly Wilder vs Joshua. But I don't think that there will be surprises here.
December 19, 2023, 08:14:34 AM
The last time there was a card this stacked was probably when Don King was the top promoter many decades ago. I am impressed at the ability of the Saudis to bring together this lineup of fighters regardless of promoter or network affiliation.
Even if Wilder and Joshua have been diminished by the brutal beatings they've taken, it is still an intriguing potential matchup. I am not counting Wallin and Parker out. They are very capable fighters and it wouldn't surprise me if either of them won.
It's great to see Bivol back in action. Hopefully this leads to an undisputed fight with Beterbiev. The rest of the undercard is also interesting since it is full of contenders who would be headliners on any other night.
Even if Wilder and Joshua have been diminished by the brutal beatings they've taken, it is still an intriguing potential matchup. I am not counting Wallin and Parker out. They are very capable fighters and it wouldn't surprise me if either of them won.
It's great to see Bivol back in action. Hopefully this leads to an undisputed fight with Beterbiev. The rest of the undercard is also interesting since it is full of contenders who would be headliners on any other night.
Most likely it's because of the money that Saudi can offer to stage this big fight. They started to become a boxing hub, not that we don't like to see fights happening in the Middle East, but they have open their doors and willing to shell out money to have this kind of stage in their country. And I do agree that we haven't seen this kind of card that is pretty much stacked up. As for Bivol, I was surprised to read that he had his hands operated. So meaning that he has been suffering pain in his right now during his win against the cash cow Canelo Alvarez. But now that it is completely healed, then there should be no problems and it will be scary to see Bivol hand's throwing at 100%. So hopefully after this win, we can see him and Beterbiev fight in the future for the undisputed LHW champion.
December 19, 2023, 06:40:58 AM
So far Parker 5:1 underdog against Wilder. Otto Wallin, almost 4:1 underdog. So that speaks that this is just a confidence boosting match.
With those odds, it seems like an easy fight for Wilder. The thing is, when Wilder struggles against his opponents, he tends to lose, and that has only happened against Fury. So, against Parker, I believe it could be an easy KO for Wilder. Despite being defeated by Fury, Wilder is making a comeback, and if he continues to improve his ranking, there's a good chance he'll make a strong return.
Looking ahead to Fury vs. Usyk, if Fury wins, both AJ and Wilder might be forced to fight the champion for another shot. If that happens, fans might not be as excited, given Wilder's previous losses to Fury. However, against AJ, it could be different as we haven't seen him fight Fury. Yet, according to the books, AJ appears to be an easy target for Fury. These are just possibilities for the future, so for more exciting bouts in the heavyweight division, let's hope Usyk can beat Fury, as things could become uncertain against AJ or Wilder.
December 19, 2023, 06:23:36 AM
If the two of them win in their respective matches, then it is becoming more probable for them to face each other next. If that happens, I agree with your that Wilder would be the favorite. And I also think that Wilder might knockout Joshua.
That is the plan in the beginning, Wilder and Joshua having a tune up with low risk opponents, just to get that cobwebs out before this two fight at the undercard of Usyk vs Fury.
So far Parker 5:1 underdog against Wilder. Otto Wallin, almost 4:1 underdog. So that speaks that this is just a confidence boosting match.
The odds will be decided only after the fights because it also depends on how they perform. I believe both AJ and Wilder aren't as mentally stable as before. But in these fights, AJ is fighting the better opponent. The last time there were odds between these 2 popular heavyweights was when they were undefeated and AJ is always favored. Wallin is unbeaten since losing a decision to Fury a few years ago so he will be more confident of an upset while Parker at this current stage of his career is just too slow to threaten the unskillful but dynamite-fisted Wilder.
But I'll be more interested in seeing the world champions in this event, Dmitry Bivol and Jai Opetaia. Jai had confirmed that he will be helping Tyson Fury after his fight. The bad news is Jai also vacated his belt already because he prefers the life-changing offer in this event rather than face his mandatory.
December 19, 2023, 05:09:46 AM
It will be some interesting fights and I will do my best to see them live in some sports bar. Both Wilder and Joshua are the favorite to win and a fight between the two of them would be pretty exciting! If it happens, I think Wilder is the favorite to win.
Saudi really has the guts to stage such big fights. They have the money. They know how to attract fans from all over the world. I'll be making sure this day will also be free of appointments and other schedules.
Yeah, it's about the money now, I mean, oil money flowing to boxing? that will be great right?
If the two of them win in their respective matches, then it is becoming more probable for them to face each other next. If that happens, I agree with your that Wilder would be the favorite. And I also think that Wilder might knockout Joshua.
That is the plan in the beginning, Wilder and Joshua having a tune up with low risk opponents, just to get that cobwebs out before this two fight at the undercard of Usyk vs Fury.
So far Parker 5:1 underdog against Wilder. Otto Wallin, almost 4:1 underdog. So that speaks that this is just a confidence boosting match.
December 18, 2023, 10:32:35 PM
It will be some interesting fights and I will do my best to see them live in some sports bar. Both Wilder and Joshua are the favorite to win and a fight between the two of them would be pretty exciting! If it happens, I think Wilder is the favorite to win.
Saudi really has the guts to stage such big fights. They have the money. They know how to attract fans from all over the world. I'll be making sure this day will also be free of appointments and other schedules.
If the two of them win in their respective matches, then it is becoming more probable for them to face each other next. If that happens, I agree with your that Wilder would be the favorite. And I also think that Wilder might knockout Joshua.
December 18, 2023, 09:42:54 PM
Wow! Saudi again. After the successful fight of Fury vs Ngannou, they go again with an even bigger one. Familiar names, and Dmitry Bivol is included, making this fight very interesting to watch. Well, I guess we can't expect a Fury vs Usyk anymore this year, as this one are also a big matchups to excite the fans.
I'm rooting for Joshua and Wilder to win their respective fights so they could face each other for the first time.
As for Dmitry Bivol, I think he'll be a sure winner here.
I'm rooting for Joshua and Wilder to win their respective fights so they could face each other for the first time.
As for Dmitry Bivol, I think he'll be a sure winner here.
It will be some interesting fights and I will do my best to see them live in some sports bar. Both Wilder and Joshua are the favorite to win and a fight between the two of them would be pretty exciting! If it happens, I think Wilder is the favorite to win.
November 16, 2023, 12:47:11 PM
This is indeed one mega fight it is star-studded and headed by two former heavyweight champions, both Wilder and Joshua are expected to be the favorite here but both their challengers are expected to give them a hard fight I hope both former champions will hurdle their respective opponents so they can finally face each, its really long time coming I'm sure like many fans will watch this fight to see how former champions perform against their respective opponents.
Honestly, I am more worried about Joshua than Wilder not because Wallin is a dangerous fighter but because he is prone to upsets and has a weak character than Wilder.
Honestly, I am more worried about Joshua than Wilder not because Wallin is a dangerous fighter but because he is prone to upsets and has a weak character than Wilder.
Yeah, both Wilder and Joshua are heavy favorites in these matches with odds 1.17 and 1.26, respectively. But I'm more excited about Wilder vs. Parker here. Both are heavy punchers with the ability to end the fight right in the opening round. I bet the fight won't go the distance. Despite the lop-sided odds, I still think Parker can upset Wilder. As to Joshua vs. Wallin, I'm not expecting much. It will probably be not as explosive as the other bout.
And there is Dmitry Bivol. I would just bet 3 fights for this event. Despite being still young AJ is not as good as before after his first loss or there are just fighters that he couldn't really beat because of the Southpaw stance. Saudi is ramping up because people there are hungry for entertainment and they are very rich to hold events like this.
Ngannou could have been in this card if he just agreed to fight Wilder. The man fumbles the bag again, he is stubborn.
However, how much would Francis Ngannou's purse be if his team agreed to fight the Bronze Bomber instead of Tyson Fury? Correct me if I am wrong but I reckon it would not be a bigger purse than fighting Fury. Also, Tyson Fury is a champion. It was not a championship fight, however, it was better to fight Fury than someone who is not champion and who also lost to Tyson Fury hehe.
It's not as big as what he got from Fury fight but it's still big compared to his fight in UFC. But most important of all is that he may just have a rank in WBC once he gets into the legitimate 12-round bout and not just the crossover fight hype. Fighting Wilder will put him as a pro boxer.
He is hoping that Fury will once again fight him when he knows it will take long because Arum already arranged for Fury vs Usyk and all they are waiting for is injuries to be healed.
November 16, 2023, 04:38:21 AM
This is start studded we have popular names on the cards, and many of these are main event fighters like Joshua, Wilder, Dubois, Bivol, and Hrgovic you seldom see these kinds of cards on any boxing promotion in the United States, Saudi Arabia is slowly carving its name as the next Mecca of boxing and why not this is an oil-rich country and their neighboring countries people will flock to Saudi Arabia, this will attract a lot of tourist in this part of the Middle East.
It's going to be interesting to watch the media conference, I'm sure the fans and the media will be interested to ask Wilder and Joshua and they may engage in thrash talks because this event is where the boxing community knows if they are ready with each other.
This is a must-watch event not because of the star-studded lineup but more so on how Joshua and Wilder will perform against their respective opponents this will be the gauge if they are going to meet.
It's going to be interesting to watch the media conference, I'm sure the fans and the media will be interested to ask Wilder and Joshua and they may engage in thrash talks because this event is where the boxing community knows if they are ready with each other.
This is a must-watch event not because of the star-studded lineup but more so on how Joshua and Wilder will perform against their respective opponents this will be the gauge if they are going to meet.
November 16, 2023, 01:08:10 AM
This is indeed one mega fight it is star-studded and headed by two former heavyweight champions, both Wilder and Joshua are expected to be the favorite here but both their challengers are expected to give them a hard fight I hope both former champions will hurdle their respective opponents so they can finally face each, its really long time coming I'm sure like many fans will watch this fight to see how former champions perform against their respective opponents.
Honestly, I am more worried about Joshua than Wilder not because Wallin is a dangerous fighter but because he is prone to upsets and has a weak character than Wilder.
Honestly, I am more worried about Joshua than Wilder not because Wallin is a dangerous fighter but because he is prone to upsets and has a weak character than Wilder.
Yeah, both Wilder and Joshua are heavy favorites in these matches with odds 1.17 and 1.26, respectively. But I'm more excited about Wilder vs. Parker here. Both are heavy punchers with the ability to end the fight right in the opening round. I bet the fight won't go the distance. Despite the lop-sided odds, I still think Parker can upset Wilder. As to Joshua vs. Wallin, I'm not expecting much. It will probably be not as explosive as the other bout.
And there is Dmitry Bivol. I would just bet 3 fights for this event. Despite being still young AJ is not as good as before after his first loss or there are just fighters that he couldn't really beat because of the Southpaw stance. Saudi is ramping up because people there are hungry for entertainment and they are very rich to hold events like this.
Ngannou could have been in this card if he just agreed to fight Wilder. The man fumbles the bag again, he is stubborn.
However, how much would Francis Ngannou's purse be if his team agreed to fight the Bronze Bomber instead of Tyson Fury? Correct me if I am wrong but I reckon it would not be a bigger purse than fighting Fury. Also, Tyson Fury is a champion. It was not a championship fight, however, it was better to fight Fury than someone who is not champion and who also lost to Tyson Fury hehe.
November 16, 2023, 12:00:01 AM
[....]'No idea how they managed to get this all sorted within a little over a week.
I was trying to look for the money offered to them to accept this fight but nothing has appeared so far. The amount must have been hard to resist. They are also fighting some boxers who they probably think it's not much of a threat so that made the decision easier. If it was straight up Joshua vs Wilder for Dec. 23 then I doubt it will happen. November 15, 2023, 11:22:51 PM
Wow! Saudi again. After the successful fight of Fury vs Ngannou, they go again with an even bigger one. Familiar names, and Dmitry Bivol is included, making this fight very interesting to watch. Well, I guess we can't expect a Fury vs Usyk anymore this year, as this one are also a big matchups to excite the fans.
I'm rooting for Joshua and Wilder to win their respective fights so they could face each other for the first time.
As for Dmitry Bivol, I think he'll be a sure winner here.
I'm rooting for Joshua and Wilder to win their respective fights so they could face each other for the first time.
As for Dmitry Bivol, I think he'll be a sure winner here.
November 15, 2023, 11:02:06 PM
The last time there was a card this stacked was probably when Don King was the top promoter many decades ago. I am impressed at the ability of the Saudis to bring together this lineup of fighters regardless of promoter or network affiliation.
Even if Wilder and Joshua have been diminished by the brutal beatings they've taken, it is still an intriguing potential matchup. I am not counting Wallin and Parker out. They are very capable fighters and it wouldn't surprise me if either of them won.
It's great to see Bivol back in action. Hopefully this leads to an undisputed fight with Beterbiev. The rest of the undercard is also interesting since it is full of contenders who would be headliners on any other night.
Even if Wilder and Joshua have been diminished by the brutal beatings they've taken, it is still an intriguing potential matchup. I am not counting Wallin and Parker out. They are very capable fighters and it wouldn't surprise me if either of them won.
It's great to see Bivol back in action. Hopefully this leads to an undisputed fight with Beterbiev. The rest of the undercard is also interesting since it is full of contenders who would be headliners on any other night.
November 15, 2023, 10:07:21 PM
This is indeed one mega fight it is star-studded and headed by two former heavyweight champions, both Wilder and Joshua are expected to be the favorite here but both their challengers are expected to give them a hard fight I hope both former champions will hurdle their respective opponents so they can finally face each, its really long time coming I'm sure like many fans will watch this fight to see how former champions perform against their respective opponents.
Honestly, I am more worried about Joshua than Wilder not because Wallin is a dangerous fighter but because he is prone to upsets and has a weak character than Wilder.
Honestly, I am more worried about Joshua than Wilder not because Wallin is a dangerous fighter but because he is prone to upsets and has a weak character than Wilder.
Yeah, both Wilder and Joshua are heavy favorites in these matches with odds 1.17 and 1.26, respectively. But I'm more excited about Wilder vs. Parker here. Both are heavy punchers with the ability to end the fight right in the opening round. I bet the fight won't go the distance. Despite the lop-sided odds, I still think Parker can upset Wilder. As to Joshua vs. Wallin, I'm not expecting much. It will probably be not as explosive as the other bout.
And there is Dmitry Bivol. I would just bet 3 fights for this event. Despite being still young AJ is not as good as before after his first loss or there are just fighters that he couldn't really beat because of the Southpaw stance. Saudi is ramping up because people there are hungry for entertainment and they are very rich to hold events like this.
Ngannou could have been in this card if he just agreed to fight Wilder. The man fumbles the bag again, he is stubborn.
November 15, 2023, 08:15:33 PM
This is indeed one mega fight it is star-studded and headed by two former heavyweight champions, both Wilder and Joshua are expected to be the favorite here but both their challengers are expected to give them a hard fight I hope both former champions will hurdle their respective opponents so they can finally face each, its really long time coming I'm sure like many fans will watch this fight to see how former champions perform against their respective opponents.
Honestly, I am more worried about Joshua than Wilder not because Wallin is a dangerous fighter but because he is prone to upsets and has a weak character than Wilder.
Honestly, I am more worried about Joshua than Wilder not because Wallin is a dangerous fighter but because he is prone to upsets and has a weak character than Wilder.
Yeah, both Wilder and Joshua are heavy favorites in these matches with odds 1.17 and 1.26, respectively. But I'm more excited about Wilder vs. Parker here. Both are heavy punchers with the ability to end the fight right in the opening round. I bet the fight won't go the distance. Despite the lop-sided odds, I still think Parker can upset Wilder. As to Joshua vs. Wallin, I'm not expecting much. It will probably be not as explosive as the other bout.
November 15, 2023, 07:22:32 PM
This is indeed one mega fight it is star-studded and headed by two former heavyweight champions, both Wilder and Joshua are expected to be the favorite here but both their challengers are expected to give them a hard fight I hope both former champions will hurdle their respective opponents so they can finally face each, its really long time coming I'm sure like many fans will watch this fight to see how former champions perform against their respective opponents.
Honestly, I am more worried about Joshua than Wilder not because Wallin is a dangerous fighter but because he is prone to upsets and has a weak character than Wilder.
Because both agents are contacting one another to arrange a fight by December, many people were hoping to see Anthony Joshua and Wilder square off. However, before they face off in the boxing ring, they are unaware that the boxing organization has another plan for them. Honestly, I am more worried about Joshua than Wilder not because Wallin is a dangerous fighter but because he is prone to upsets and has a weak character than Wilder.
The new rule, which calls for Wilder and Joshua to fight independently and prevail before their fight takes place by next year, is intended to demonstrate their physical strength and position as being among the world's best boxers. They(Wilder or Joshua) can't earn it without having a tough opponent from time to time.
November 15, 2023, 06:18:05 PM
This is indeed one mega fight it is star-studded and headed by two former heavyweight champions, both Wilder and Joshua are expected to be the favorite here but both their challengers are expected to give them a hard fight I hope both former champions will hurdle their respective opponents so they can finally face each, its really long time coming I'm sure like many fans will watch this fight to see how former champions perform against their respective opponents.
Honestly, I am more worried about Joshua than Wilder not because Wallin is a dangerous fighter but because he is prone to upsets and has a weak character than Wilder.
Joshua has won two fights already this year, he should not take this upcoming fight as a weak fight or an easy fight for him to easily win, he has to prepare very well because Wallin has a good record and has faced fighters as tough as Joshua is in his career. It is natural for me to support Anthony Joshua when he fights, so I will still be supporting him in this fight, and hope that he can knock the lights out of Wallin when they meet in December which will be a good statement to say he is ready for Wilder. I will like to see the Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder fight. Honestly, I am more worried about Joshua than Wilder not because Wallin is a dangerous fighter but because he is prone to upsets and has a weak character than Wilder.
November 15, 2023, 04:14:26 PM
This is indeed one mega fight it is star-studded and headed by two former heavyweight champions, both Wilder and Joshua are expected to be the favorite here but both their challengers are expected to give them a hard fight I hope both former champions will hurdle their respective opponents so they can finally face each, its really long time coming I'm sure like many fans will watch this fight to see how former champions perform against their respective opponents.
Honestly, I am more worried about Joshua than Wilder not because Wallin is a dangerous fighter but because he is prone to upsets and has a weak character than Wilder.
Honestly, I am more worried about Joshua than Wilder not because Wallin is a dangerous fighter but because he is prone to upsets and has a weak character than Wilder.
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https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/13008830/anthony-joshua-returns-against-otto-wallin-and-deontay-wilder-faces-joseph-parker-on-same-bill-in-saudi-arabia
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Anthony Joshua returns against Otto Wallin and Deontay Wilder faces Joseph Parker on same bill in Saudi Arabia
Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder can set up a fight in 2024 if they both win their separate bouts on the same bill in Saudi Arabia on December 23; Joshua will fight Otto Wallin while Wilder takes on Joseph Parker in Riyadh
Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder can set up a fight in 2024 if they both win their separate bouts on the same bill in Saudi Arabia on December 23; Joshua will fight Otto Wallin while Wilder takes on Joseph Parker in Riyadh
Press conference just finished: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRAmsnidfIw
Saudi have knocked it out of the park with another huge card for Riyadh Season which I'm sure makes up for the Fury V Usyk fight not happening until next year now. No idea how they managed to get this all sorted within a little over a week. Not sure who will headline out of the two co-mains but I'm sure we'll get a face-off between Aj and Wilder after and especially if they both win their fights.
Full line up:
https://boxing-social.com/news/card-confirmed-for-joshua-wilder/
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Anthony Joshua-Otto Wallin
Joshua looks to make it three for three this year against Swedish southpaw, Otto Wallin. Wallin took Tyson Fury the distance back in 2019 and has built back with six wins. The currently ranked IBF number two could provide a stern test for ‘AJ’ but, if he passes, a statement win would end his 2023 on a high. He’s expected to fight Wilder in the first half of 2024.
Deontay Wilder-Joseph Parker
The Joshua fight will only be the case should Wilder beat Parker, the former world champion who has bounced back from a punishing loss to Joe Joyce with three lower-level wins. The American looks to add a 43rd knockout to his record.
Dmitry Bivol-Lyndon Arthur
Bivol was facing a year of inactivity before this card came about, but will now fight his one bout of 2023 against the UK’s Lyndon Arthur, who has built up four wins since his loss to Anthony Yarde. Bivol will be looking to remain undefeated, keep his WBC Light-Heavyweight World Title and push for a unification against Artur Beterbiev.
Jai Opetaia-Ellis Zorro
Opetaia takes on his second British opponent in a matter of months, this time defending his IBF Cruiserweight World Title against 17-0 Ellis Zorro. A win for the Aussie sets him on the path of defending his belt in a rematch against the man he won if from – Mairis Breidis.
Daniel Dubois-Jarrell Miller
The post-fight debate of Dubois’ loss to Oleksandr Usyk in his world title attempt was all about a low-blow, but many felt they didn’t see enough heart from the young UK heavyweight. That will need to be on show throughout fight week and in the ring against undefeated brash American, Jarrell Miller – best known on these shores for squandering an opportunity to face Anthony Joshua by failing doping tests.
Arslanbek Makhmudov-Agit Kabayel
Two undefeated heavyweights collide, with Makhmudov the one with the momentum despite being three years older than 31-year-old Kabayel. The Russian looks to keep up his reputation as a knockout artist against Germany’s Kabayel, who has has fought once per year since 2017.
Frank Sanchez-Junior Fa
Undefeated Cuban heavyweight Frank Sanchez faces New Zealand’s Junior Fa, who was knocked out by Lucas Browne in one round in mid-2022 before returning with a low-level win this year. Sanchez, trained by Eddy Reynoso of Canelo fame, looks to move 24-0.
Fillip Hrgovic-Mark Di Mori
IBF number one contender Filip Hrgovic faces 41-year-old Mark De Mori in the strangest match-up of the card. De Mori was knocked out by David Haye in one round back in 2016, but has recorded 11 wins since in mostly eight rounders. Fans expect Hrgovic to keep his mandatory position.
Joshua looks to make it three for three this year against Swedish southpaw, Otto Wallin. Wallin took Tyson Fury the distance back in 2019 and has built back with six wins. The currently ranked IBF number two could provide a stern test for ‘AJ’ but, if he passes, a statement win would end his 2023 on a high. He’s expected to fight Wilder in the first half of 2024.
Deontay Wilder-Joseph Parker
The Joshua fight will only be the case should Wilder beat Parker, the former world champion who has bounced back from a punishing loss to Joe Joyce with three lower-level wins. The American looks to add a 43rd knockout to his record.
Dmitry Bivol-Lyndon Arthur
Bivol was facing a year of inactivity before this card came about, but will now fight his one bout of 2023 against the UK’s Lyndon Arthur, who has built up four wins since his loss to Anthony Yarde. Bivol will be looking to remain undefeated, keep his WBC Light-Heavyweight World Title and push for a unification against Artur Beterbiev.
Jai Opetaia-Ellis Zorro
Opetaia takes on his second British opponent in a matter of months, this time defending his IBF Cruiserweight World Title against 17-0 Ellis Zorro. A win for the Aussie sets him on the path of defending his belt in a rematch against the man he won if from – Mairis Breidis.
Daniel Dubois-Jarrell Miller
The post-fight debate of Dubois’ loss to Oleksandr Usyk in his world title attempt was all about a low-blow, but many felt they didn’t see enough heart from the young UK heavyweight. That will need to be on show throughout fight week and in the ring against undefeated brash American, Jarrell Miller – best known on these shores for squandering an opportunity to face Anthony Joshua by failing doping tests.
Arslanbek Makhmudov-Agit Kabayel
Two undefeated heavyweights collide, with Makhmudov the one with the momentum despite being three years older than 31-year-old Kabayel. The Russian looks to keep up his reputation as a knockout artist against Germany’s Kabayel, who has has fought once per year since 2017.
Frank Sanchez-Junior Fa
Undefeated Cuban heavyweight Frank Sanchez faces New Zealand’s Junior Fa, who was knocked out by Lucas Browne in one round in mid-2022 before returning with a low-level win this year. Sanchez, trained by Eddy Reynoso of Canelo fame, looks to move 24-0.
Fillip Hrgovic-Mark Di Mori
IBF number one contender Filip Hrgovic faces 41-year-old Mark De Mori in the strangest match-up of the card. De Mori was knocked out by David Haye in one round back in 2016, but has recorded 11 wins since in mostly eight rounders. Fans expect Hrgovic to keep his mandatory position.
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