Will Avalon ship on schedule??? >>> VOTE

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Quote from: Carlton Banks on January 20, 2013, 06:59:39 AM

Last time I checked, not every country in the world does the whole Monday -> Friday = "the week" and Saturday -> Sunday = "the weekend" thing. But I have no clue what the custom is in China, or perhaps even that of the province Avalon team are working out of.

China has a 'regular' workweek like the rest of the world, where factories do work on a Saturday and logistics companies work around the clock. How else do you think the packages delivered on Monday arrive at the sorting center, if they would shut down things on a Friday evening?

I have personally delivered packages at the main UPS sorting center here on a Saturday evening to make sure they were shipped out on a Monday, not sure if I'd be welcome on a Sunday (probably a union thing) but surely in China anything is possible. If I look at the dates of the tracking you see loads of activity on a Sunday.

The only country I've dealt with so far that had a different workweek was in the Middle East. Iran has a Thursday/Friday weekend due to religious traditions. Israel has a work week that starts on a Sunday.

And I'm not sure why my 'cal' command always generates this:

Code:

January 2013
Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa
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For some people the workweek does start on a Sunday.

Our lab is open 24/7, no weekend here ;-)

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remember back when inaba got the first single right...everything was mysterious and he got one early and showed it off. then regular customers receiving trickled in later

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Quote from: repentance on January 20, 2013, 03:54:24 PM

Quote from: DobZombie on January 20, 2013, 09:17:32 AM

Quote from: organofcorti on January 20, 2013, 09:07:51 AM

BitSyncom said they shipped, and mentioned two of the recipients. He didn't say only two were shipped.

You're right. I don't think this will change anything until several people are posting pictures and screenshots.

For what it's worth, I think the attitude is going to be the same when other companies ship as well - people aren't going to be satisfied until end users are posting pictures and reports. And that's fair enough, really.

It has proven so in the past with Bitcoin Magazine, so it will likely continue to be so in the future.

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Quote from: DobZombie on January 20, 2013, 09:17:32 AM

Quote from: organofcorti on January 20, 2013, 09:07:51 AM

BitSyncom said they shipped, and mentioned two of the recipients. He didn't say only two were shipped.

You're right. I don't think this will change anything until several people are posting pictures and screenshots.

For what it's worth, I think the attitude is going to be the same when other companies ship as well - people aren't going to be satisfied until end users are posting pictures and reports. And that's fair enough, really.

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Well, let's wait for Jeff's report. If there is one working ASIC unit - prototype or not - it should not be a big deal to make additional units.

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Quote from: nathanrees19 on January 20, 2013, 08:41:13 AM

They shipped two units, or less than 1% of their order count as of now. That's basically the same as not shipping.

Ye they've shipped out 2 prototypes

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Quote from: squall1066 on January 20, 2013, 11:58:12 AM

IIRC there have only been 2 shipped out, In my eyes thats nothing, They could have had someone testing the units frist before mass ship-out, And because they have paid, It counted as delivered.

We'll see how the network hashrate is affected over the next week or two.

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IIRC there have only been 2 shipped out, In my eyes thats nothing, They could have had someone testing the units frist before mass ship-out, And because they have paid, It counted as delivered.

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Quote from: DobZombie on January 20, 2013, 09:17:32 AM

Quote from: organofcorti on January 20, 2013, 09:07:51 AM

BitSyncom said they shipped, and mentioned two of the recipients. He didn't say only two were shipped.

You're right. I don't think this will change anything until several people are posting pictures and screenshots.

I just want my goddamn asics already! I'll be able to retire and sell all my customs rigs, and then install the 7970 in my 'puter so I can PEW PEW PEW it up in BF3 again!

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Quote from: organofcorti on January 20, 2013, 09:07:51 AM

BitSyncom said they shipped, and mentioned two of the recipients. He didn't say only two were shipped.

You're right. I don't think this will change anything until several people are posting pictures and screenshots.

I just want my goddamn asics already! I'll be able to retire and sell all my customs rigs, and then install the 7970 in my 'puter so I can PEW PEW PEW it up in BF3 again!

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Quote from: nathanrees19 on January 20, 2013, 08:41:13 AM

They shipped two units, or less than 1% of their order count as of now. That's basically the same as not shipping.

I'm not sure you can read that into the post:

Quote from: BitSyncom on January 20, 2013, 08:12:07 AM

Oh you guys, I think everyone is at a boiling point because of the delays made by our competitors.

We shipped, website will be updated shortly.

First unit goes to Jeff Garzik in honor for the work he has done for the bitcoin codebase being the only developer who ordered from us.

we also arranged to ship a unit to the Bitcoin Foundation, whom is going to do a demo.

The avalon team on the other hand is going to make sure the whole shipping process go smoothly. like handling DHL/EMS problem, and other custom issues.

cheers.

BitSyncom said they shipped, and mentioned two of the recipients. He didn't say only two were shipped.

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Quote from: nathanrees19 on January 20, 2013, 08:41:13 AM

They shipped two units, or less than 1% of their order count as of now. That's basically the same as not shipping.

At least we'll know if they have a working product or not.

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They shipped two units, or less than 1% of their order count as of now. That's basically the same as not shipping.

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Last time I checked, not every country in the world does the whole Monday -> Friday = "the week" and Saturday -> Sunday = "the weekend" thing. But I have no clue what the custom is in China, or perhaps even that of the province Avalon team are working out of.

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Clock shouldn't have been set to end on a Sunday then...

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Quote from: poon-TANG on January 20, 2013, 03:03:52 AM

Have you ever got any packages on Sunday? I know shipping companies work 7 days a week shipping packages that have already been processed. How many companies pick up on sundays is what I should have said.

For something like this, they may well be dropping the consignment off at DHL themselves - I've certainly done that myself in the past when it was something important. They're able to arrange collections on weekends (as well as deliveries) but it's usually not cheap. I wouldn't do it with a consignment like this one because the last thing you want is to think everything's fine and then find out a couple of days later that the paperwork's not in order and your consignment is just sitting there doing nothing. At least if you drop off the consignment yourself, you're on the spot to fill out additional paperwork, fix errors, etc.

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Quote from: repentance on January 19, 2013, 09:55:42 PM

Quote from: poon-TANG on January 19, 2013, 09:45:49 PM

Don't know how they ship but no place I know of ships on sundays.

Logistics companies operate every day of the week and they're using DHL. The only reason some companies don't ship on weekends is that they only work standard office hours - it's not because courier and logistics companies don't work weekends. Amazon has shipped my orders on the weekend countless times - it's not that unusual.

When the units will actually leave China will depend on how they're handling the customs process. You can arrange pre-authorisation if you're willing to pay for it.

Have you ever got any packages on Sunday? I know shipping companies work 7 days a week shipping packages that have already been processed. How many companies pick up on sundays is what I should have said.

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Quote from: iCEBREAKER on January 20, 2013, 12:41:32 AM

Didn't I read something about a demo in December? Huh

If so, then they've already failed to deliver on schedule. No wonder they're getting all pissy and quarrelsome. Cheesy

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Didn't I read something about a demo in December? Huh

If so, then they've already failed to deliver on schedule. No wonder they're getting all pissy and quarrelsome. Cheesy

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Maybe i misread an avalon quote but i thought they would have shown pics or a video by now as they said they would....

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Quote from: repentance on January 19, 2013, 10:57:10 PM

It would make even more sense to have the units on a flight out of China on Sunday night and landing in nearby destinations early Monday to get them cleared through customs and out to the local delivery services as soon as possible.

It would make even more sense to have had the units already made and shipped back in December... wait no, November, October! What is your point???

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I'd be interesting to track the votes in this poll to whether the voters are customers of Avalon, BFL, bASIC, or any of the above. I'd be a good number of people that said YES are customers, and a good number of people that said NO are not customers.

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Quote from: mrb on January 19, 2013, 10:37:54 PM

It will be 9pm in China. In theory it makes sense to start packing Sunday 9pm, work overnight, and have a first shipment ready to ship on Monday at dawn

It would make even more sense to have the units on a flight out of China on Sunday night and landing in nearby destinations early Monday to get them cleared through customs and out to the local delivery services as soon as possible.

I guess we'll know soon enough exactly what they mean when they say that they'll be "shipping" in 9 and a half hours.

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Quote from: poon-TANG on January 19, 2013, 09:45:49 PM

Don't know how they ship but no place I know of ships on sundays.

It will be 9pm in China. In theory it makes sense to start packing Sunday 9pm, work overnight, and have a first shipment ready to ship on Monday at dawn

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Quote from: poon-TANG on January 19, 2013, 09:45:49 PM

Don't know how they ship but no place I know of ships on sundays.

Logistics companies operate every day of the week and they're using DHL. The only reason some companies don't ship on weekends is that they only work standard office hours - it's not because courier and logistics companies don't work weekends. Amazon has shipped my orders on the weekend countless times - it's not that unusual.

When the units will actually leave China will depend on how they're handling the customs process. You can arrange pre-authorisation if you're willing to pay for it.

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Don't know how they ship but no place I know of ships on sundays.

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Quote from: sounds on January 19, 2013, 08:34:02 PM

Note that in their other thread here BitSyncom has only claimed they would start shipping when their countdown timer reaches 0. (And yes, I didn't link to BitSyncom's comment)

If you're not #1 on their pre-order list, you can't claim Avalon promised to ship your ASIC tomorrow.

Yep, they've consistently said that the first 300 units would be shipped over a period of about 2 weeks. It's clear that they're not all being shipped tonight because Avalon is putting up a form today for people to choose alternative shipping options.

Given that they have been posting today, though, it would be a massive PR blunder if they didn't ship any units at all tonight - they should be well aware by now of any obstacles to getting those first units shipped later today.

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Note that in their other thread here BitSyncom has only claimed they would start shipping when their countdown timer reaches 0. (And yes, I didn't link to BitSyncom's comment)

If you're not #1 on their pre-order list, you can't claim Avalon promised to ship your ASIC tomorrow.

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