Will Facebook learn from the Cambridge Analytica scandal?

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Quote from: Spendulus on November 17, 2018, 12:08:03 AM

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I'm asking because Facebook was fined only $645,150 over the Cambridge Analytica scandal. I don't think it was much of a deterrent for future slip-ups but I might be wrong.

$600M would have stunned them but $645k is a joke.

Then, how do you think Facebook will fix its mistakes if the company gets a pat in the back after such a huge scandal that impact the elections in the first world superpower?

Fix its mistakes?

They are 100% for selling your and my data to whoever wants it. They will have some double-talk about it and some lies by the PR team of course. None of that is true. You are their product.

And now, the company is teaming up with Google in AI research and development despite its lack of credibility. I can't help but thinking that a monopoly might soon be forming, hence why something must be done in the Tech world to prevent that disaster from happening.

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Quote from: Waradlain on November 18, 2018, 05:43:34 AM

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Russia’s internet regulator today confirmed that access to social networking site LinkedIn — which has been blocked in Russia since November 2016 — is not returning to Russia anytime soon, after it received a letter from the social network’s VP of global public policy stating that LinkedIn will not move Russian user data to Russian territory.

Tell me more about silly issues such as their "convictions.

Sure. What would you like to know?

Big heaps of personal data are like the old time cookie jar that kids love to get their hands into.

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Quote from: TECSHARE on November 17, 2018, 05:58:57 PM

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Quote from: Spendulus on November 17, 2018, 05:02:31 PM

Quote from: Waradlain on November 17, 2018, 06:44:36 AM

If you read a little about the reasons for the dismissal of the founder of WhatsApp, you will understand that your personal data doesn't mean a thing for Facebook.
So I think we will hear such stories again and again....

And thus arose Telegram...

Nah, not even close pal. But I know you don't care.
Until a certain time, everything looked like Durov was ready to sacrifice large markets for his convictions. Now it looks like the situation has changed, but Telegram isn't tipping off user data here and there.

Sweet... sweet summer child... You don't get it. The instant you put your information in the hands of a 3rd party it is not yours or private any more. End of story.

Show me where I was talking about privacy. I meant the ongoing leaks that were in the past and will definitely be in the future.

Quote from: Spendulus on November 17, 2018, 08:16:38 PM

It's much more instructive to ask "what does the large clump of data want to do" than to discuss individual humans or silly issues such as their "convictions."

The large clump of data always wants to gain power.

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Russia’s internet regulator today confirmed that access to social networking site LinkedIn — which has been blocked in Russia since November 2016 — is not returning to Russia anytime soon, after it received a letter from the social network’s VP of global public policy stating that LinkedIn will not move Russian user data to Russian territory.

Tell me more about silly issues such as their "convictions.

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Quote from: TECSHARE on November 17, 2018, 05:58:57 PM

Quote from: Waradlain on November 17, 2018, 05:55:58 PM

Quote from: Spendulus on November 17, 2018, 05:02:31 PM

Quote from: Waradlain on November 17, 2018, 06:44:36 AM

If you read a little about the reasons for the dismissal of the founder of WhatsApp, you will understand that your personal data doesn't mean a thing for Facebook.
So I think we will hear such stories again and again....

And thus arose Telegram...

Nah, not even close pal. But I know you don't care.
Until a certain time, everything looked like Durov was ready to sacrifice large markets for his convictions. Now it looks like the situation has changed, but Telegram isn't tipping off user data here and there.

Sweet... sweet summer child... You don't get it. The instant you put your information in the hands of a 3rd party it is not yours or private any more. End of story.

It's much more instructive to ask "what does the large clump of data want to do" than to discuss individual humans or silly issues such as their "convictions."

The large clump of data always wants to gain power.

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Quote from: Waradlain on November 17, 2018, 05:55:58 PM

Quote from: Spendulus on November 17, 2018, 05:02:31 PM

Quote from: Waradlain on November 17, 2018, 06:44:36 AM

If you read a little about the reasons for the dismissal of the founder of WhatsApp, you will understand that your personal data doesn't mean a thing for Facebook.
So I think we will hear such stories again and again....

And thus arose Telegram...

Nah, not even close pal. But I know you don't care.
Until a certain time, everything looked like Durov was ready to sacrifice large markets for his convictions. Now it looks like the situation has changed, but Telegram isn't tipping off user data here and there.

Sweet... sweet summer child... You don't get it. The instant you put your information in the hands of a 3rd party it is not yours or private any more. End of story.

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Quote from: Spendulus on November 17, 2018, 05:02:31 PM

Quote from: Waradlain on November 17, 2018, 06:44:36 AM

If you read a little about the reasons for the dismissal of the founder of WhatsApp, you will understand that your personal data doesn't mean a thing for Facebook.
So I think we will hear such stories again and again....

And thus arose Telegram...

Nah, not even close pal. But I know you don't care.
Until a certain time, everything looked like Durov was ready to sacrifice large markets for his convictions. Now it looks like the situation has changed, but Telegram isn't tipping off user data here and there.

Spendulus

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Quote from: Waradlain on November 17, 2018, 06:44:36 AM

If you read a little about the reasons for the dismissal of the founder of WhatsApp, you will understand that your personal data doesn't mean a thing for Facebook.
So I think we will hear such stories again and again....

And thus arose Telegram...

Waradlain

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If you read a little about the reasons for the dismissal of the founder of WhatsApp, you will understand that your personal data doesn't mean a thing for Facebook.
So I think we will hear such stories again and again.

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The billionaire chief executive of WhatsApp, Jan Koum, is planning to leave the company after clashing with its parent, Facebook, over the popular messaging service’s strategy and Facebook’s attempts to use its personal data and weaken its encryption, according to people familiar with internal discussions.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/whatsapp-founder-plans-to-leave-after-broad-clashes-with-parent-facebook/2018/04/30/49448dd2-4ca9-11e8-84a0-458a1aa9ac0a_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.81de279ab2e4

Spendulus

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Quote from: ProperFerret on November 16, 2018, 06:50:56 PM

Quote from: Spendulus on November 16, 2018, 06:17:32 PM

Quote from: ProperFerret on November 15, 2018, 03:45:22 PM

I'm asking because Facebook was fined only $645,150 over the Cambridge Analytica scandal. I don't think it was much of a deterrent for future slip-ups but I might be wrong.

$600M would have stunned them but $645k is a joke.

Then, how do you think Facebook will fix its mistakes if the company gets a pat in the back after such a huge scandal that impact the elections in the first world superpower?

Fix its mistakes?

They are 100% for selling your and my data to whoever wants it. They will have some double-talk about it and some lies by the PR team of course. None of that is true. You are their product.

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Quote from: Spendulus on November 16, 2018, 06:17:32 PM

Quote from: ProperFerret on November 15, 2018, 03:45:22 PM

I'm asking because Facebook was fined only $645,150 over the Cambridge Analytica scandal. I don't think it was much of a deterrent for future slip-ups but I might be wrong.

$600M would have stunned them but $645k is a joke.

Then, how do you think Facebook will fix its mistakes if the company gets a pat in the back after such a huge scandal that impacted the elections in the first world superpower?

TECSHARE

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Quote from: ProperFerret on November 16, 2018, 05:45:42 PM

Quote from: TECSHARE on November 15, 2018, 03:58:18 PM

They will once they are hit with anti-trust regulations as well as revoking their safe harbor provision under DMCA because they are no longer an open forum if they are curating content, legally making them publishers liable for what they publish.

Do you think those anti-trust regulations will be voted and implemented or do you think it's more likely that we're heading for another personal data scandal for which Facebook will pay less than a million dollar in penalty?
Let me remind you (but I think you probably already know it) that Facebook is now massively investing in cognitive technologies that will most likely know us better than we know ourselves for the gain of unknown third parties.

The regulations are already on the books, they just aren't being enforced. Facebook, as well as many other social media outlets clearly qualify for anti0trust action by the letter of the law. The data scandals will not stop, they will increase, and more and more companies will be responsible for it. Once you give up your data to a 3rd party you might as well just count on the world having it any more.

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Quote from: ProperFerret on November 15, 2018, 03:45:22 PM

I'm asking because Facebook was fined only $645,150 over the Cambridge Analytica scandal. I don't think it was much of a deterrent for future slip-ups but I might be wrong.

$600M would have stunned them but $645k is a joke.

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Quote from: TECSHARE on November 15, 2018, 03:58:18 PM

They will once they are hit with anti-trust regulations as well as revoking their safe harbor provision under DMCA because they are no longer an open forum if they are curating content, legally making them publishers liable for what they publish.

Do you think those anti-trust regulations will be voted and implemented or do you think it's more likely that we're heading for another personal data scandal for which Facebook will pay less than a million dollar in penalty?
Let me remind you (but I think you probably already know it) that Facebook is now massively investing in cognitive technologies that will most likely know us better than we know ourselves for the gain of unknown third parties.

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Quote from: FunGate on November 16, 2018, 03:30:52 PM

Unless they become a charity, of course not. Their business model is centered around using people's data. This is how they make their money. A decentralized social media ecosystem could be a step in the right direction towards security.

https://cryptobriefing.com/decentralized-social-media-delete-facebook/

Instead of having an incentive to exploit people's data, people would have an incentive to just create great content.

I like the idea but don't you think it'd be too much of a hassle for users who would need register on numerous platforms in order to stay connected with most of their contacts? People use Facebook based on that particular quest for convenience, which is why, despite countless scandals, the platform is still very powerful and is developing better algorithms to target us with ads, with no sense of ethics at all.

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I think Zuckerberg will manage to do his crappy business Cry

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Unless they become a charity, of course not. Their business model is centered around using people's data. This is how they make their money. A decentralized social media ecosystem could be a step in the right direction towards security.

https://cryptobriefing.com/decentralized-social-media-delete-facebook/

Instead of having an incentive to exploit people's data, people would have an incentive to just create great content.

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Facebook had more saying vote Clinton than they had saying vote Trump They had more saying stay in the EU than saying leave the EU and still they lost..
And now the ELITE want facebook to get rid of even more freedom of speech..

Facebook why not say we will only view what we likes and that's it..

Call it WHAT WE LET YOU SAY FACEBOOK.COM Hmm bit like hellfish lately ..

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They will once they are hit with anti-trust regulations as well as revoking their safe harbor provision under DMCA because they are no longer an open forum if they are curating content, legally making them publishers liable for what they publish.

ProperFerret

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I'm asking because Facebook was fined only $645,150 over the Cambridge Analytica scandal. I don't think it was much of a deterrent for future slip-ups but I might be wrong.

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