Will i get my dollars from bitcoinica? why cant i get my money now?

mobodick

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Quote from: the joint on May 11, 2012, 06:36:59 PM

Quote from: thest0ckman on May 11, 2012, 04:24:38 PM

the first two responses were rude and unprofessional.

i see a very possible sorry bitcoinica is out of business message coming net week.

i have every right to ask questions. you have no right to insult me and call me names.

i run large businesses and would never insult potential clients. ill think twice now before using bit instant

Actually we do have that right. Do you know what projection is? A little self-awareness will help you realize you're pissed at yourself for relinquishing control of your money to a party you didn't know.

BitInstant is an amazing company and they've gone out of their way to help consumers out in troubled times -- I specifically recall how they helped the community when TradeHill shut down. Now your anger is causing you to lash out at people who did not cause you to be in the situation that you are in, but who are in the same situation as you and are handling it much better than you are.

R-e-l-a-x. There's an old saying, "If there's a solution to the problem, then there is no need to worry. If there is no solution to a problem, then worrying will do no good."

Patience, grasshopper.

Wait, people call him stupid and an idiot and HE is lashing out?
:?
I think you're blinded by your sense of community.

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Quote from: enmaku on May 11, 2012, 04:19:30 PM

People pointed out you were being stupid in the other thread about Bitcoinica so you start your own thread to be stupid in? OK we'll just move over here to call you an idiot.

Ecommerce isn't like a brick-and-mortar store, sometimes the thief is still "in the store" long after the initial crime is committed. If Bitcoinica put their servers back up so you can pull out your money they could potentially lose whatever funds they put on said server to reimburse you. Welcome to the real world where we have to investigate breaches before putting the systems at risk again.

Of course you already know this because I'm not the first one to explain it to you. Now stop acting like a troll, put on your big girl panties and wait until Monday or Thursday or six weeks from now or however long the investigation takes.

But don't you think it would have been better if they at least informed us something is going on?
I mean, why the hell did i even give those guys an email address?
This is like the 3rd time they got hacked and i have to find out through various posts from various people on a forum.
It's easy to call people idiots, but if bitcoinica fails to communicate these things then there will be people who havent got a clue and will be pissed off about it. Bitcoinica handles peoples money, they have a responsibility.

And who is the bigger idiot anyway, the idiot or the one caring enough to call him that?
I'm sure it made you feel better.

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I think OP realized he reacted without thinking....hence the reason he stopped responding Grin

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Quote from: thest0ckman on May 11, 2012, 04:24:38 PM

the first two responses were rude and unprofessional.

i see a very possible sorry bitcoinica is out of business message coming net week.

i have every right to ask questions. you have no right to insult me and call me names.

i run large businesses and would never insult potential clients. ill think twice now before using bit instant

If one of your businesses was broken into and $90,000 was stolen, would you continue to allow customers in the door immediately after?

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Quote from: thest0ckman on May 11, 2012, 04:24:38 PM

the first two responses were rude and unprofessional.

i see a very possible sorry bitcoinica is out of business message coming net week.

i have every right to ask questions. you have no right to insult me and call me names.

i run large businesses and would never insult potential clients. ill think twice now before using bit instant

Actually we do have that right. Do you know what projection is? A little self-awareness will help you realize you're pissed at yourself for relinquishing control of your money to a party you didn't know.

BitInstant is an amazing company and they've gone out of their way to help consumers out in troubled times -- I specifically recall how they helped the community when TradeHill shut down. Now your anger is causing you to lash out at people who did not cause you to be in the situation that you are in, but who are in the same situation as you and are handling it much better than you are.

R-e-l-a-x. There's an old saying, "If there's a solution to the problem, then there is no need to worry. If there is no solution to a problem, then worrying will do no good."

Patience, grasshopper.

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Spurn wild goose chases. Seek that which endures.

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why cant i get my money now?

At the moment, all indications point to the hacker having obtained root access to Bitcoinica's webserver.

That means that everything to do with Bitcoinica's webserver is now, potentially, under the control of the hacker. The fact that Zhou Tong took initiative and yanked the power cable doesn't change that; it just prevents the hacker from making use of it.

So before they put even one satoshi back in the hands of the webserver, they need to be certain that the hacker no longer has such control. To start back up the site when this is even remotely plausible is to risk a third heist less than 24 hours after the second.

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I would be fairly confident that you will get your funds back, by the way.

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Quote from: Blazr on May 11, 2012, 04:34:11 PM

Quote from: enmaku on May 11, 2012, 04:29:49 PM

Name the businesses please. I'd like to know where not to shop any more.

http://www.thestockman.org/

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A unique combination of Financial and Website Development Services Brought to you by a 15 year Wall street veteran

Uses a template monster template for the website

http://www.thestockman.org/blog.html

The animated gif of flashing lightning in the header was a nice touch.

OK if this is your business front, I'm fairly confident I would never have bought anything from you anyway - bullet dodged. A web designer that uses crappy template monster templates? Brilliant.

In all seriousness though, stop bitching and get in line. The more you complain the more you make yourself look like an idiot. We're not insulting you, you're insulting yourself - we're just pointing it out.

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Quote from: enmaku on May 11, 2012, 04:29:49 PM

Name the businesses please. I'd like to know where not to shop any more.

http://www.thestockman.org/

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Uses a template monster template for the website

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Quote from: thest0ckman on May 11, 2012, 04:24:38 PM

i run large businesses and would never insult potential clients. ill think twice now before using bit instant

Name the businesses please. I'd like to know where not to shop any more.

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Quote from: thest0ckman on May 11, 2012, 04:24:38 PM

the first two responses were rude and unprofessional.

i see a very possible sorry bitcoinica is out of business message coming net week.

i have every right to ask questions. you have no right to insult me and call me names.

i run large businesses and would never insult potential clients. ill think twice now before using bit instant

How did I insult you?

How did I call you names?

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yes!

welcome to the real world, where mybitcoin.com, bitscalper.com, mtgox.com and bitcoinica now exist...
Grin

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the first two responses were rude and unprofessional.

i see a very possible sorry bitcoinica is out of business message coming net week.

i have every right to ask questions. you have no right to insult me and call me names.

i run large businesses and would never insult potential clients. ill think twice now before using bit instant

SgtSpike

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If someone is murdered in the middle of a store, do you think they let customers continue going about as if nothing happened? No - they lock down the store, then keep it closed until the situation is resolved.

The same thing is happening here.

Just be patient.

enmaku

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People pointed out you were being stupid in the other thread about Bitcoinica so you start your own thread to be stupid in? OK we'll just move over here to call you an idiot.

Ecommerce isn't like a brick-and-mortar store, sometimes the thief is still "in the store" long after the initial crime is committed. If Bitcoinica put their servers back up so you can pull out your money they could potentially lose whatever funds they put on said server to reimburse you. Welcome to the real world where we have to investigate breaches before putting the systems at risk again.

Of course you already know this because I'm not the first one to explain it to you. Now stop acting like a troll, put on your big girl panties and wait until Monday or Thursday or six weeks from now or however long the investigation takes.

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Quote from: thest0ckman on May 11, 2012, 04:15:08 PM

why is the site down untill monday? big deal it was hacked but now i dont have access to my capital until monday, maybe?

i have a cash balance there.

how can a "licensed" company shut down withdrawals and tell me we might be open next week, you might loose all you money(dollars).

zhou answer one question or someone with authority at bitcoinica tell me will i get my money or not?

Be patient dude, everyone is in the same boat as you including myself.

Shit happens and we have to deal with it, stop complaining and get in line.

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why is the site down untill monday? big deal it was hacked but now i dont have access to my capital until monday, maybe?

i have a cash balance there.

how can a "licensed" company shut down withdrawals and tell me we might be open next week, you might loose all you money(dollars).

zhou answer one question or someone with authority at bitcoinica tell me will i get my money or not?

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