Topic: Will Kamala Harris be the first apolitical U.S. presidential candidate? (Read 413 times)

If she's not, why  can her face the citizens and make some promises that will make people to start following her than attacking her opponent who has made a good promise to voters in the country, which he will surely get all those votes when time come. Well, I don't have much to say concerning Kamala Harris attitude because election day will tell if she will going to be the first female candidate to assume the office which I know it will be difficult for people of U.S to allow her to break the record.

The more she attack Donald Trump, the more Donald Trump population increases because people love Donald Trump than any other candidate since Joe Biden stepped down for the race.

There's always a chance.

Do you think she has any chances at all? She's not stupid.

It's great to hear that Trump has backed down. Trump's excuse is pretty pathetic since he already debated Biden, who didn't have the official nomination at the time.

But now maybe there will be a debate on a neutral ground somewhere.

I heard that in Kamala's speech, but then I heard that Trump wrote a letter that he'll commit once she's officially elected per her party.

Regardless of candidate, the original debate was unprecedented (pre party elections), and then one expected candidate dropped out. Feels like fair play to me.

Let's see what Kamala stands for. On one hand, Kamala has smoked weed in the past. But Kamala has also prosecuted people for weed. This is called hypocrisy. And people f@#$ing hate me for bringing this up. Humans are horrible creatures.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

P.S. No. I am not a supporter of Trump. Trump is a bit overweight. This is why we never see him without a shirt on. And being 78 and overweight is not very healthy. That does not sound like a guy fit for office. You may be able to tolerate old age, and you may be able to tolerate a guy who is a bit chubby, but those two factors combined seem a bit sketchy. There. I gave both sides of the argument. Since I gave both sides, I am unbiased, and everyone will f@#$ing hate me for it.

Not even close. Fox News was successfully sued for several billion dollars for knowingly lying for Donald Trump. No other major media outlet is remotely like them. Other news outlets might have a "liberal bias", but Fox News is a direct campaign arm of the Republican party.

Regardless, Trump and Harris agreed to a time and a venue, and then Trump bailed out, and then came back with ridiculous demands in hopes that he could get out debating somebody half his age who would absolutely mop the floor with him.

Anybody who is serious about the Palestinian cause will vote for Harris. Donald "Muslim Ban" Trump would would set the Palestinian cause back a decade.

(And I said serious: anybody who treats the Palestinian cause as a game to be played by college students will "both sides" Harris and Trump, saying "they are all the same", and not care if Trump is elected, who will prop up Bibi, who 70% of Israelis want to kick out of office).

So what, isn't CNN also partisan by those same standards?

Democratic candidates should also face some attack questions and see how they manage to overcome it for once.
It's quite interesting however, that while Kamala has also been facing protests on her rallies, the medie talks bone of that.
I guess the country's rich don't want anyone to hear that their darling is knee deep in the sea of blood she has spilled in Palestine with Biden. Surely she'll work very closely with republicans to ban TikTok so they can enforce this, but only after they use it for their campaign.

So Trump backed out of the originally agreed-upon debate and switched it to a partisan news channel on his own terms, and yet you somehow conclude that Harris is the "coward".

You obviously support Trump, and that's fine, but don't pretend that is some kind of neutral analysis .

This is quite interesting. So now Kamala supporters are against open debates? Even though the democrat campaign completely lost it at the CNN debate in spite of the set up and the many attack questions directed towards Trump, now they're against holding a debate with a Channel that's not "theirs"?

Typical. Funny how Biden was like "I'll take any debate". Seems like it ain't so after he dropped out. Kamala is more of a coward even than him!

Kamala herself is a walking meme. A very bad and distasteful one.

Trump thee meme-god will smoke her in the upcoming memewars.

Welp, seems like my intuition was right...
Read: Democrats Have Finally Learned the Value of Shitposting

It's not just tiktok, youtube shorts etc. It's everywhere. The Kamala campaign is now using tactics that would normally be memes on the general population. Their super PACs are pushing "cringe" attack ads on TV, they're even pushing cringey clips of Kamala herself on purpose, not as an attack, but to make her more relatable.

We've reached the age where people are called to vote, not because of values, not because of ideas, but because a certain candidate looks and sounds better. It's now official. Kamala's campaign uses this tactic much more than speaking of any ideals whenever they have a chance to show something publicly.

The superpower dictator type guy dropped out of the race. The world wants to see the things the winner of the race will bring in... freedom. He might not be able to change the world for freedom in 4 years, but he will start the change in a lot of good ways.

Btw, freedom means freedom for people to support themselves, not to live on Welfare, or off the rape of other people.


WAYNE ROOT: The Biggest Gaslighting Scam Yet: Kamala Isn’t Winning. She’s Doing Worse Than Biden. Trump is Winning a Landslide. Here is the Proof.

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/07/wayne-root-biggest-gaslighting-scam-yet-kamala-isnt/
We have been gaslighted so badly, so many times in past few years, it's almost impossible to believe. But none has been as absurd as what's happening right now with the fake news stories and fake polls about Kamala Harris.

Only a couple weeks ago, Democrat leaders were discussing how to dump Kamala from the ticket.

She was that big of an albatross. The most unpopular, unlikeable Vice President in modern history was an anchor on the Democrat Party and yes, even "the Biden brand."

Only a couple of weeks ago, a crowd of Democrat consultants and donors was debating who the candidate should be. A top Democrat fundraiser actually said to the crowd, Kamala as the presidential candidate would be "more threatening" to swing voters than a dead or comatose Joe Biden. See:

Only a week ago, the New York Times looked at the pros and cons of every possible Biden replacement and called Kamala Harris "the most unelectable" of any possible Democrat candidate.

And a quick reminder- for the past four years, virtually every poll showed Kamala was the only politician on earth more unpopular than her boss, Joe Biden (the lowest rated president in a century).

Everyone at the top levels of Washington DC agreed Kamala was thoroughly unlikeable, completely incompetent, and dim-witted. That's a very bad combination.
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So maybe you can tell us about the better way of controlling a government, since you are against the democratic way. Any ideas?

The world does not want to see a superpower dictator.   If by some chance he cheats and doesn't get caught this time, he will be assasinated quickly, and the world will be happy.

Dude you went from defending Kamala to defending the integrity of the US political system? Grow up. It's a very flawed system even in terms of "functioning democracy" standards. When Hillary won the majority vote but lost because of the electoral college your peers in the "Democratic" party were all of a sudden in favor of radical changes in your "democracy".

Will you now go on about how money ruling politics is also something normal or do you at least have a tiny shred of moral decency to denounce lobbying?

You are basically describing any politician that gets elected in a functioning democracy.

If you want to be completely happy, I suspect the system you are looking for is called a "dictatorship". And with a dictator that aligns exactly with every one of your views. And one who doesn't change when they are given absolute power (here's the historical list of dictators who pulled this off: [] ).

If you don't want to take your chances with a dictator, then you are going to need to learn to... compromise with your fellow citizens....

Ok, so Kamala is liberal. But American Liberal isn't particularly left wing, let alone far left... By any impartial standard American liberals would be considered centrists or even center right. They enforce neoliberal economic policies and wage more wars than even the Bushes...

Academic Lara Bazelon wrote of Kamala Harris "In her career, Ms. Harris did not barter or trade to get the support of more conservative law-and-order types; she gave it all away"... This is why I call Kamala the first apolitical presidential candidate. She has no sense of direction in her politics. She's not truly left wing, she's not right wing and she's not a proper centrist either. She's just a sleazy politician handing favors left and right to advance her career. This is her track record.

They were obviously lying because when the media screamed about her leading in the polls she wasn't even an official democratic candidate.

Now more credible sources say she's a point or two behind Trump, but that's also bad because this means so many people chose to vote for that communist.
Imagine that, you're in a country that fought communism on all continents. That went into a long cold war against a communist country and fought in the WW2 against socialist Germany.
Now you have all those people vote for a communist president, against all the values their parents and grandparents fought for.
It's crazy.

I don’t know how true it is that she is apolitical. She was literally rated the most liberal voting senator there is from an independent group. Democrats have a way of finding their most far left people they can find and then thrusting them into the Presidency to inflict maximum damage on the country and spite the right. Nothing new here.

Yes, if abortion is legal, like it has been in the US for the last half century, then there will be other things to worry about.

Most of the posters here are from outside of the US and don't care if Americans are made to suffer, as long as the price of Bitcoin goes up. I don't think Trump will make the price of Bitcoin go up--and he could very well make it crash--but being from another country means you don't care about the things that US voters care about.

This is hilarious. A bright future depends on a lot more than abortion lol

However they are ok believing that Trump won the last elections - a shady and dangerous allegation with no proof whatsoever.

Yeah. That's what's wrong with Harris. Defend the right to break trust contracts, and to perform murder executions by common people of 'babies'.

Again, you have absolutely no clue about how the US political system works, yet you keep commenting here. You are embarrassing yourself . The Supreme Court does not need to change in order for Harris to defend against abortion laws.

Harris will defend a woman's right to choose in the same way Biden has, even with a Republican majority in the House. Trump will criminalized abortion in his first week in office. If you actually lived here in the USA, you would be alarmed by that.

Maybe if you comment about political issues in your own country, you will have better luck making a coherent argument...

I respect the struggle but you've been completely unable to name how Kamala will protect abortion when Biden was unable to do so as president (still) with 2 years as a congress majority by his party.
What's the plan here? Pack the court? Make an executive order? (Which as you said will get stuck in the house)

Dunno friend, but even as a single issue to vote on, it doesn't seem like there's that much of a plan to bring abortion rights into reality.
Sadly for you though, there's more issues people will be looking into to determine their vote and Biden/Harris are lackluster at best on most.

Again, it's only non-existent if you don't actually watch any sort of US media.

Americans will vote in November:

• If you want abortion to be criminalized in the USA, and for the US federal government to start tracking pregnant women, then vote for Trump.
• If you want abortion to stay legal, then vote for Harris.

There is nothing "apolitical" about this decision.

It doesn't sound like you have any reason to care since you live outside of the USA, so this is a very strange topic for you to start...

Thanks for confirming what I'm saying in the OP then friend.
Harris is a "politician" that runs on a nonexistent political platform. Biden already was a stretch but got votes against Trump as the lesser of two evils. Kamala having absolutely no political direction, just as when she was a prosecutor where she just "gave it all away" to the right wing... Is a real worrying situation to have this as a choice for working class Americans. Don't forget how many Democratic candidates had to cling together to prevent Bernie from getting the nomination.

There's a very seizable portion of Americans that ARE actually left wing. And that's why Biden/Harris in this presidential election appear to lose in every poll that includes other candidates as well. People are so sick of their warmongering, outright infant murder in the middle east and no good neoliberal economic policies that third party suddenly seems like a valid choice for Americans.

It is part of the long standing process through which American politics has devolved to a new state of disarray, in this new state (I would dare to say it started when Trump got into politics) actual policies and proposals to improve the way of life of Americans started to lose steam as a way to win elections, demagogy became the new norm, that is how Trump ultimately ended up winning back in 2016. Democrats are not stupid and realize there are some new rules in the game of politics, so whether they like it or not, they have to dance at the tune of what actually catches the attention of the most of the population of the country. Sadly, an important percentage of the people there does not seem to care and watch an hour long rally with some guy talking about economics, policies and ways to improve the country, all of it devolved and it is something which stayed back in the mid 2000s and in the 2010s, before Trump take over politics.
Today it seems more likely to see members of the senate and the house of representatives to discuss actual politics then candidates to the presidency of the USA, but that is only my personal perception, though.

Executive orders are something the president does, not Congress. And executive orders are very limited, e.g. what to defend and not defend.

The Dobbs decision was not ruled upon until after Republicans had a majority in the House.


Harris has been the vice-president of the United States, not the president. In the US, the vice-president does not have any direct legislative powers, or veto power.

I don't know what specific promises you are talking about, so I can't comment on what may have been broken or not.



Biden launched a major student loan relief program, but the Republican-controlled Supreme Court blocked this programs.

Again, I don't know where you are getting your news..........



Certainly fracking is one area where Democrats have shifted. Fracking isn't fully "green", but is a cleaner form of energy that's more practical than others. But a broken promise to environmentalists? Sure.

I have no idea about what you mean about, "utility costs under their administration skyrocketed". Do you have numbers for this? And make sure you find data that takes into account the post-pandemic chaos of the market as well.



Correct. You can't believe what you watch on Fox News. Biden and Harris are centrist mainstream US politicians. The mainstream of the USA is not leftist (which is why Republicans desperately want to paint them that way).

You're not making much sense here. Biden had 2 years as president with both the house and senate under a Democratic majority and still failed to introduce any executive orders making abortion a right. It's easy to blame everyone else, but this one is 100% on their administration.



ORLY? Because reality says otherwise. Yes, they talk about many things, but Harris is already tried and tested. She has failed to deliver to all promises she made that would actually make the lives of Americans better.

The above is just one of the many broken promises Biden/Harris completely failed to deliver on.
Early on their campaign for the Democratic candidacy they would do everything to stifle Bernie. They would counter him saying they also had plans for education and would go as far as to cancel all student loans.
Well, years later seems like Biden/Harris bowed to corporate interests too hard and only delivered on this promise on a very lackluster manner.

Americans were though Bernie fighting for an expansive public health and medicare system, and Biden just stepped right in with his cronies, including Harris, to completely block that plan.

The Biden administration is also responsible for stalling the right to organize act which they failed to pass even under democratic majority from congress... Union busting happened at record pace under the Biden administration with Starbucks and Amazon being able to stall successful union organization by dragging it through the court system for years.

Moreover, Biden/Harris completely failed to deliver on environmental promises. Biden completely broke all his anti-fracking and green energy promises, and in spite of that utility costs under their administration skyrocketed.

Same for promises on peace, Under Biden and Harris we had a record amount of babies killed by U.S. weapons. The amount of baby deaths Kamala Harris is responsible as vice president is only rivaled by agent orange and the atomic bombs.

If anything, Biden and Harris are terrible leftists. No wonder people are starting to have a disdain for liberals. They've completely forgotten what class means. They don't know what peace means, and they'll sell the environment out for a few corporate bucks.

Maybe you should do a little more research about the USA before weighing in on US politics , but...

Abortion in the United States is legal in most states today, as it has been in the modern era.

Biden/Harris cannot secure this right for all states because there is a Republican majority in the US House of Representatives. They have indeed introduced several bills, and Republicans have made sure they were all voted down. Republicans are dedicated to reversing existing US law and making abortion illegal, so obviously they are not going to help Democrats do the opposite.

What Biden/Harris did do is defend against the frivolous lawsuits Republicans have initiated to make the abortion pill and other abortion procedures illegal, and Biden/Harris have prevented things like politicians trying to track and publicly shame women who have or have had abortions by defending privacy laws.

Trump, if elected, won't defend against any of those lawsuits, obviously, which means that abortion could be defacto criminalized in the USA in a matter of weeks after he is elected, and Congress will not have had any say in this.

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Again, you'll need to spend more than a few minutes on TikTok in order to make a judgement about the Harris policy platform. Biden, and now Harris, talk constantly about issues very important to the working class, the most important non-abortion issue being healthcare, wherein they vow to protect Obamacare, which Republicans vow to repeal. Working class people in the US are ruined by healthcare costs, and only Democrats are offering solutions to bring those costs down.

Perhaps you should listen to any standard Harris stump speech at one of her rallies? She covers all of these things every day, many times a day...

Many people in the US are fond of free and uninterrupted abortion access for all women. Sure. But how is Ms Harris going to achieve this? Let's not forget that the supreme court ended the right to abortion under Biden's administration. If it was possible to strengthen abortion access why didn't Kamala do it under Biden's administration? It's funny actually, she still has time to do it if possible as she's still the ruling vice president.

And besides, there's also many class-based issues that Kamala Harris should address if she wants to win over the working class. I'm yet to see any talking points for these issues from her.

The Harris campaign is a lot bigger than the dozen or so TikTok videos you seemed to have watched.

This election is about one thing: do Americans want abortion to be illegal in the USA... or not?

If you want abortion to be criminalized across the USA, then you vote for Trump.

If you want abortion to stay legal like is has been, vote for Harris.

This is a massive, massive change to the American lifestyle and a policy that will directly or indirectly affect almost every American.

Personalities don't matter. Bitcoin doesn't matter. Things that actually changes peoples lives matters.

It's funny, it was headline news that Kamala Harris seemed to have a very narrow margin ahead of trump in a couple of polls, but nobody batted an eye that Trump had a much wider margin winning against her in every other poll where the two are head to head. NYT/Forbes/WSJ polls all showed Trump leading by up to 3 percentage points, while the two polls that showed Harris leading, it was only 1 percentage point.

Apparently this isn't newsworthy enough to make it into the headlines and central news shows... Maybe a tiny an improvement from Biden but where would it go from there? Probably as more of the hypocrisy comes out, people are going to be sick of Harris just as they became sick of Biden.

Agree with this & fully agree that it’s an attempt by the liberal left media to manipulate swing voters. Hopefully Trump wins by a landslide, that’s best for crypto & the US in general.

I think you already know the answer. However being stupid isn’t dangerous itself. They are also doing lots of shady/illegal stuff which people need to be careful about.

Few days ago everybody was saying that Kamala was leading in the polls by 2%. How the fuck could that be? That’s clearly an act to manipulate the election results. it might not be illegal but it is shady af. Nobody in the right mind believed those fake news.

We've had a week of Kamala Harris campaigning for president and all her talking and campaign points are apolitical.

A collaboration with a millennial British singer Charli XCX, light hearted memes for not knowing how to properly use phrasal verbs such as saying "you fell out of a coconut tree" instead of using the common "fell out of the sky" phrase... Clips that she enjoys to have a laugh, ads about her being a prosecutor in the past...

I don't get it. Are Democrats stupid or something? Do they think only gen Zers are watching TV and internet clips? Can't they realize that trying to act cool was the exact reason they faced a downfall against Trump with Hillary Clinton in 2016?

If Democrats wanted to come out with popular policies against Trump's ideology they could have just clung to their voting base of working class Americans, doubled down on Biden's promise to limit incarceration for non-violent crimes, end student loans and adopt some policies already proposed by strong factions in their party, such as limiting foreign influence campaigns, stopping ammunition donations to Israel, Promoting a ceasefire in the Ukraine... But no! Instead they choose to differentiate their campaign for the presidency from Trump's on minuscule things such as VIBES and having a better sense of humor.

Instead of talking about politics, they just choose to attack Trump, Vance, Project 2025, calling them names and their politics bad. Why not just talk about some better politics if you're so superior? propose some better solutions maybe? As things stand, we just get a taste that they pretend to be better by painting their opponent as the worse. Is this what would get Americans off their couch to vote? I doubt it.

What do you think about this?