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October 31, 2019, 11:02:46 AM
If satoshi comeback again this on forum and open hia/her account and juat post it who he/her really are.  For sure we will know that who is the real satoshi but I don't think he can say or post his real name to the public . Maybe that is only a dream and maybe it will never happen but still no what happen tomorrow or in the future but we still need to continue to work in bitcoin even we don't know the real satoshi
Of course he would not introduce himself because his life would be in danger. But if it is true that "Satoshi Nakamoto" will log on again this is a big deal to us as we already know he is alive and he can give us some advice to make bitcoin more productive.

And I think bitcoin prices will rise haha.
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October 31, 2019, 10:52:32 AM
#99
If he's still alive, maybe he's watching right now how his creation grows and improved through time. Even if Satoshi remains anonymous I don't believe that he let go of bitcoin or didn't care about his creation. Look how it helped and improve a lot, how come he'll just leave bitcoin? Sure that his secretly proud of bitcoin. Maybe he's watching us with another account or maybe he told someone to watch over it secretly... But honestly right now, I don't think he'll log in again.
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October 31, 2019, 09:27:06 AM
#98
Do you think "satoshi" will ever just randomly log in one day and post something?

It seems as if that would be the only way for "satoshi" to ever be proven to be who he is.

I guess he already created the bitcoin technology I don't think he is but if satoshi Nakamoto is still alive and the thing is if he created the bitcoin technology meaning he knows it and he could change it and potentially hack it. There is also a theory that satoshi was just waiting for the right time because he has a big amount of percentage of bitcoin in here hand if he do and quickly sells it in the market for sure the bitcoin market will go down and bitcoin price will go down.
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October 31, 2019, 09:20:50 AM
#97
If satoshi comeback again this on forum and open hia/her account and juat post it who he/her really are.  For sure we will know that who is the real satoshi but I don't think he can say or post his real name to the public . Maybe that is only a dream and maybe it will never happen but still no what happen tomorrow or in the future but we still need to continue to work in bitcoin even we don't know the real satoshi
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October 31, 2019, 08:59:33 AM
#96
Satoshi will never login again in this forum on his account, Satoshi. It was blocked I think by theymos or other mod so that there couldn't be any other people that will hack his account for their own reasons. I just overheard it on some post in this forum these past few months.
It was locked only and not deleted so how come that it won’t be logged in again?if Satoshi contacted Theymos and asked for unlocked surely it will be unlocked and Satoshi can log in again meaning there is still a chance that we can se him online

The only problem is should Satoshi really wanted to go back online?or contented on his silence?thats the thing we must need to understand since that’s creators choice and we are only speculating here
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October 31, 2019, 07:57:43 AM
#95
Do you think "satoshi" will ever just randomly log in one day and post something?

It seems as if that would be the only way for "satoshi" to ever be proven to be who he is.


Maybe one day satoshi will post something, maybe its the end of bitcoin or a fresh new start, for my perspective satoshi is a group of people but then again maybe satoshi is just one person. But nevertheless the fame or the popularity of satoshi, i think he will not just post something, to prove. He needs to keep his popularity, and his self anonymously since his work became popular.

In my opinion, we can expect a message here on Bitcoinalk, because exactly here Satoshi starts. It is a pity that no one knows when he/they will again log in to the forum and write something to their readers
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October 25, 2019, 12:03:10 PM
#94
He will do that only if he's still interested in proving and exposing his real identity but in but case, I guess he will choose not to do that anymore. Besides, no one really knows if he's still alive or not so if there will be someone who will appear or log in as Satoshi, there will surely be doubts and second thoughts. Only the real Satoshi knows what to do. If he chose not to log in or to lock his account, he has his own personal reason which is to be respected.
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October 25, 2019, 10:55:41 AM
#93
I don't think so. If he had a plan to come back to this forum he might have never left it in first place. Satoshi might be a person or a team. But what if he isn't even alive now.
There are many people leaving the forum and later returning and it is nothing new, whether he is alive or not is another story but the moniker Satoshi is dead for a long time and all we have is the history of his teachings  Tongue.

What if he was too old and died due to some chronic disease after 2009. What if this was his last wish to create a decentralized currency which no one could control. We definitely have a lot of unanswered questions.
An old man using his brains to create something that no one had a solution, if he died after 2009 then who was online till 2010  Tongue. Satoshi created something unique and left that to the entire world to explore and do the necessary changes afterwards.
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October 20, 2019, 12:02:04 AM
#92
I don't even think he can login again if he wanted to. There was some bitcointalk hack a few years back and it required everyone to generate a new password. And I think you had to do this by email.

Then Satoshi's original email was either hacked or it expired and someone else took ownership, and I think his account was locked on this forum due to that reason.

If someone had access to his email, they can probably reset the password and try and login pretending to be him. And that would not be a good thing since there is speculation of him holding 1 million coins and would cause panic if he logged in one day and said "I am going to sell all my coins tomorrow".

I read some years ago that theymos himself locked satoshi's account to prevent it from being hacked(I can't remember what thread it was). I am not sure if this is true
but locking the founder's account is the best way to protect it and theymos probably locked the account long before the attacks happened.
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October 19, 2019, 11:53:43 PM
#91
Theres a possiblity that he will log in and theres also a posibility that he won't. Satoshi I think is one of the key person on why this forum is formed and he is part of this so there is a real chance for that happening again.
But if im right his account here was blocked right? As what theymos stated from one of the threads I've read.
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October 19, 2019, 11:40:17 PM
#90
I don't even think he can login again if he wanted to. There was some bitcointalk hack a few years back and it required everyone to generate a new password. And I think you had to do this by email.

Then Satoshi's original email was either hacked or it expired and someone else took ownership, and I think his account was locked on this forum due to that reason.

If someone had access to his email, they can probably reset the password and try and login pretending to be him. And that would not be a good thing since there is speculation of him holding 1 million coins and would cause panic if he logged in one day and said "I am going to sell all my coins tomorrow".
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October 19, 2019, 11:33:00 PM
#89
Do you think "satoshi" will ever just randomly log in one day and post something?

It seems as if that would be the only way for "satoshi" to ever be proven to be who he is.


If Mr.Satoshi log in here again in the forum, this is definitely big news.

We will now have hope and support for the sole creator of this wonderful invention. We will also have the opportunity to ask all the questions that only he can answer.
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October 19, 2019, 09:43:41 PM
#88
Who knows that Satoshi is still here or not? I think he might be here but without public, It doesn't bring anything worth meaning either he is absent or his presence, he did a massive thing and we should maintain this platform properly. I don't know why people are trying to trace himself, this bitcointalk forum is the best platform for the cryptocurrency so he obviously presents here with an anonymous account because of its an anonymous platform, we don't know each other so he is also here but we couldn't find him. there are thousand and thousand account in this forum, how could you know that Satoshi is not here?
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October 19, 2019, 08:51:17 PM
#87
I feel confident that in the future satoshi's account will be active again, that is my hunch. What happens if the account is back online, I think many media reported it even though he didn't post anything in this forum
Though we are not losing hope but accepting reality is enough to stop our thinking’s that Satoshi will ever comeback again.its been many years had passed yet not even single word from him so what are we waiting for?lets move on and just give credit to the creator about all the benefits and also trouble bitcoin and cryptocurrency brings us ,this is the best way to do because even Satoshi is Gone the legacy is still here and we are continuing to the next generations

Let’s just treat him as a Hero if he really deserves to be one and stop bringing her/his name in so much publicity like this because the creator is either resting in good or keeping the silence for life
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October 19, 2019, 07:09:39 PM
#86
nobody knows, besides he might login with a newbie account , he will not make herself noticesable for him to know what is happening, he may post but using another account I think, because he might put his life in danger, because as we know lots of people are trying to know who he really is, and bad people may target him if he ever surface because of the holdings he had
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October 19, 2019, 07:02:34 PM
#85
I doubt he would ever do that. However i am sure he has a cloned account in the forum and other addresses full of bitcoins he mined for himself. let's all leave this dude alone and see how we can make his dream a reality.

he is probably around everyday, with multiple newbie accounts posting "great project" messages on ICO bounties just to make impossible to find him Cheesy I hope he doesn't care that I told the truth  Tongue
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October 19, 2019, 06:34:31 PM
#84
Do you think "satoshi" will ever just randomly log in one day and post something?

It seems as if that would be the only way for "satoshi" to ever be proven to be who he is.




I think yes, he is the owner of this forum if I am not wrong as the owner he need to know what will happen for  creation (bitcointalk forum) but for sure he didn't posting what he want to deliver the to the member of this forum they command to theymos what he do for the forum. For the protection of their identity.
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October 19, 2019, 05:56:32 PM
#83
First and foremost, why will satoshi ever think of login again onto this forum? Bitcoin is widely known and used in the crypto space. This means that, the job of  satoshi advertizing bitcoin on this forum is done and not needed. Even if Satoshi is gonna login onto this forum, he is not going to use his old account whiles he knows people are eager to know his identity...
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October 19, 2019, 01:48:51 PM
#82
Since Santoshi has been created this bitcointalk forum I am sure definitely he might be logged in anytime here in this forum. You may check their last seen time to understand what is the exact time has been logged in last.
I don't think so is there any other option you can check satoshi's login apart from here.
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October 19, 2019, 01:41:07 PM
#81
Well, I do not think that's a Toshi will ever log in again. Anyway, he is an expert cryptographer, so there's only one way to find out, and that is to wait!
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October 03, 2019, 01:56:30 PM
#80
Do you think "satoshi" will ever just randomly log in one day and post something?

It seems as if that would be the only way for "satoshi" to ever be proven to be who he is.

I don't think so. If he had a plan to come back to this forum he might have never left it in first place. Satoshi might be a person or a team. But what if he isn't even alive now. What if he was too old and died due to some chronic disease after 2009. What if this was his last wish to create a decentralized currency which no one could control. We definitely have a lot of unanswered questions.
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October 03, 2019, 01:43:07 PM
#79
Satoshi will never login again in this forum on his account, Satoshi. It was blocked I think by theymos or other mod so that there couldn't be any other people that will hack his account for their own reasons. I just overheard it on some post in this forum these past few months.
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October 03, 2019, 11:37:06 AM
#78
I doubt he would ever do that. However i am sure he has a cloned account in the forum and other addresses full of bitcoins he mined for himself. let's all leave this dude alone and see how we can make his dream a reality.
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October 03, 2019, 11:33:53 AM
#77
the question was asked back on the year 2013 were the forum is not really that old and the account of satoshi is not also old enough so its pretty posible for him to re login that time but today we are now on the year 2019 and i feel that satoshi will never comeback due to his long time of inactivity  . its only suspicious though , if someone see him online and posting  . its possible that his account are hacked not until he can prove his identity in a believable manner
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October 03, 2019, 11:30:56 AM
#76
From the look of things, there is no way Satoshi will ever login to his account on this forum. Personally, I don't think Satoshi is still alive. Its been about ten years now since Bitcoin was introduced into the world. If Satoshi is really alive, he would have posted something on this forum regarding Bitcoin.
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October 03, 2019, 10:36:02 AM
#75
Satoshi Nakamoto remains quiet for so many years and haven't even revealed him or her self with the public so he's most likely wouldn't disclose his identity nor posting here in the forum as of the time being. Maybe he's already happy on what his creation have reached and wouldn't bother making noise about his account and identity But sooner, he probably would... But not just today.
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October 03, 2019, 09:38:50 AM
#74
satoshi gave the crypto community bitcoin and technology is open source he dont need come up with same identity he may access the information with various other names
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October 03, 2019, 09:00:25 AM
#73
It's always interesting to discuss about satoshi, the creator of bitcoin.
Back to the topic, will satoshi ever login again? I doubt it,
it is very unlikely that Satoshi will log in to the bitcointalk forum.
Because I think Satoshi has more important work than logging in in this forum.

Let's wait one day satoshi will appear and explain to the world.
The real intention is he created bitcoin, if that happens our curiosity
all can be answered. But my imaginative mind said that the figure of satoshi
is an alien, hahahaha. Grin
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October 03, 2019, 05:33:10 AM
#72
I highly doubt that Satoshi will login again
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October 02, 2019, 10:13:51 AM
#71
The answer is a stronger no than in 2013. Satoshi account is locked and in order to unlock it there must be a signature from a very old address that probably has its private key destroyed long ago.

Some dude hacked his account in the past and some people claim to be Satoshi, but no proof so far and of course none of them will log in his account.
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October 02, 2019, 10:09:14 AM
#70
Do you think "satoshi" will ever just randomly log in one day and post something?

It seems as if that would be the only way for "satoshi" to ever be proven to be who he is.


No one can assure that and that goes the same for me. I think satoshi will not show up without giving notice and just get all attentions from the different country and the governments. If that will happen then all people in the digital world will be shocked because satoshi finally shows itself.
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August 25, 2019, 10:00:27 AM
#69
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And I do see a reason why. If the experiment becomes a huge success, i.e. becomes a world reserve currency, he will have enough money to protect himself, even from armies or agencies. People like Snowden had nothing and managed to stay alive. For now it would be dangerous for Satoshi to reveal himself, but it will be a different case when he becomes the richest man in the world. With such money he could really shape the economy, maybe even create his own country.

Satoshi has already completed the interface of this forum and made a lot of things already. So it means that his/her subordinates will handle the forum completely. There's no other reason why he/she will visit this forum again. Even the segwit feature of the bitcoin, it was made by his/her subordinates.

Yes, satoshi made history and a lot of us expectation his/her revelations but I think that's very impossible for us.
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August 25, 2019, 09:54:01 AM
#68
I don't see a reason why ,But hopefully in the future Satoshi would and clear things up like tell us something about those impostor or wannabe Satoshi.
I also think that Satoshi would never reveal who is behind the pseudonym just to end this unending claims that they are the real creator.

And I do see a reason why. If the experiment becomes a huge success, i.e. becomes a world reserve currency, he will have enough money to protect himself, even from armies or agencies. People like Snowden had nothing and managed to stay alive. For now it would be dangerous for Satoshi to reveal himself, but it will be a different case when he becomes the richest man in the world. With such money he could really shape the economy, maybe even create his own country.
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August 25, 2019, 09:01:28 AM
#67
Do you think "satoshi" will ever just randomly log in one day and post something?

It seems as if that would be the only way for "satoshi" to ever be proven to be who he is.


Suppose one day he returned. What's the difference? It's hard to understand why everyone is still after Satoshi. The only thing to focus on is Bitcoin! You don't necessarily have to wear a body.
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August 25, 2019, 07:52:28 AM
#66
A lot of things already happened to BTC and Satoshi did not post anything, so I think he's not think about posting again

In my opinion, when that guys forked BTC to created Bitcoin Cash and they said it was the real BTC, Satoshi could posted here, it was a strong reason, but not...
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August 25, 2019, 07:41:03 AM
#65
I don't see a reason why ,But hopefully in the future Satoshi would and clear things up like tell us something about those impostor or wannabe Satoshi.
I also think that Satoshi would never reveal who is behind the pseudonym just to end this unending claims that they are the real creator.
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August 24, 2019, 02:07:58 PM
#64
I feel confident that in the future satoshi's account will be active again, that is my hunch. What happens if the account is back online, I think many media reported it even though he didn't post anything in this forum
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August 24, 2019, 08:44:14 AM
#63
Satoshi wont login in near future but media speculations of satoshi will keep coming both are un true of satoshi existence so bitcoin is no boss product world believed on it
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August 24, 2019, 01:34:07 AM
#62
It will never happen again. satoshi's account in this forum is under the forum administrator. he could open it if he not lost his hard drive like other pretentious satoshi. real satoshi will not waste her time here. many platform he could explain his reason why and reveal himself to explain more what happen to him.
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August 24, 2019, 01:21:09 AM
#61
Do you think "satoshi" will ever just randomly log in one day and post something?

It seems as if that would be the only way for "satoshi" to ever be proven to be who he is.

based on the announcement made by satoshi https://bitcointalk.org/ad_test.html. I think he would never log in again and had entrusted everything to the admin and the moderators  Grin
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August 23, 2019, 02:54:54 PM
#60
the theory that he does not own the private keys to that wallet is strong.

It's the most likely one for sure. It doesn't happen all that often where someone sets up a project that becomes succesful and nothing of the founder's shares are sold. Back then Bitcoin was a mere experiment that got a little bit of attention and a monetary value. No matter how convinced of Bitcoin's success people were back then, most of the holders did cash out a portion of their holdings.

Another (slightly less probable) theory is that Satoshi was/is so convinced of Bitcoin's long term success, that he won't be touching any of his coins until it becomes a unit of account. This will make him the wealthiest person on earth.
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August 23, 2019, 01:02:58 PM
#59
Everything about satoshi is still kept secretly till date and we may never really know if he has truly lost his private key or not according to the claims that people are making, which I have never really heard of except based on the claim that one of these impersonators made claiming to be satoshi and writing some full story of his live that he has cooked up from months which really never mix up.

I am sure that one day, satoshi will still be able to log in when he is ready to show himself to the world, those who are impersonating him are only giving him more respect and keeping people in suspense, everyone is eager to know who satoshi is till date even the government himself, and the time he comes out, he will b a super start that everyone wants to see, so I believe this is why he wants to still remain silence with his access to his coin and to any platform he has control over before including this forum.
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August 22, 2019, 02:16:59 AM
#58
Login to what?

If you mean that he would login to this forum or any one of his accounts on any other platform, then that would not mean that it is actually Satoshi Nakamoto signing into that platform. We know someone "hacked" his Bitcointalk.org profile before and they posted nonsense and then Theymos locked his account.

I think if Satoshi Nakamoto wanted to communicate with us, he would have signed a message from one of the early Bitcoin addresses and convey his message in that way.  Wink

Will Satoshi do that in the future? My guess is probably not, because that will open up a whole can of worms.  Roll Eyes
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August 21, 2019, 09:21:13 PM
#57
Do you think "satoshi" will ever just randomly log in one day and post something?

It seems as if that would be the only way for "satoshi" to ever be proven to be who he is.


I think that it will never happen. It would be too dangerous for him, the whole world would be after him.
This is not the only way to prove his identity beyond any doubt BTW, he can move his BTC.

Theymos already stated that his account is locked and he needs a signed PGP to prove that he is Satoshi, and about moving the Bitcoin, there's no hint that he still owns his private key, but there's a guy who comes out that claims to be Nakamoto, and he also claims that he lost his private keys.

Login on his account here is out of the question, movements from his wallet seem to be unlikely as there is still no hint that he can move it, the theory that he does not own the private keys to that wallet is strong.
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August 21, 2019, 05:54:29 AM
#56
Do you think "satoshi" will ever just randomly log in one day and post something?

It seems as if that would be the only way for "satoshi" to ever be proven to be who he is.


I think that it will never happen. It would be too dangerous for him, the whole world would be after him.
This is not the only way to prove his identity beyond any doubt BTW, he can move his BTC.
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August 21, 2019, 01:50:57 AM
#55
As I mentioned in another post, my belief that Satoshi is the creator of Pokemon, because Ash's Ketchum original japanese name is Satoshi and there are 21 million pokemon in that world. My best guess that Satoshi name is Satoshi Tajiri
Stop with this assumption, I'm sorry but I don't understand how you can connect pokemon to the man himself.

If i was Satoshi i would never enter the forum again. Because he has now money and he kept his identity hidden. I would probably just live my life out.
Well perhaps that's what Satoshi wanted to be, he wanted to stay hidden from the prying eyes of the government that's why he remain anonymous up to this day. However, someone out of nowhere claims to be Satoshi, but common sense tells us that he is as fake as Craig Wright. He was good though at linking the pieces together, but I doubt that those who have been involved in bitcoin believed him.
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August 20, 2019, 06:08:57 AM
#54
As I mentioned in another post, my belief that Satoshi is the creator of Pokemon, because Ash's Ketchum original japanese name is Satoshi and there are 21 million pokemon in that world. My best guess that Satoshi name is Satoshi Tajiri
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August 20, 2019, 12:06:26 AM
#53
Do you think "satoshi" will ever just randomly log in one day and post something?

It seems as if that would be the only way for "satoshi" to ever be proven to be who he is.


I don't really think that its not really necessary for Satoshi to come out to prove to anyone that he is this individual or that person. I really don't understand why people want to know the identity of Satoshi. If he wanted to be known, he would have provided that information long time ago.

To be completely honest I do not care who Satoshi is, My biggest question is why has he not touched any of his bitcoin in 10 years? What are his plans. Does he still have access to all of the Private keys.  

I really feel he has left all the Bitcoin sitting just to make a valid statement on just how hard it would be even with every private key in the world listed on several websites to actually find a wallet with Bitcoin in it. I kinda feel he has left the bitcoins sitting as like a reward if you can find it you can have it.

It just goes to show how secure his project really is!

But at the same time. Who would not want to cash out at around $20 billion dollars when BTC was at $20,000? A couple of thousand dollars is ALOT to me... If he has access why has he not touched them.. Has he been living off of coins he mined once he announced it to the public?  Does he even need the money or is he waiting until Global Recognition, 1 million per coin? lol
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August 19, 2019, 06:53:05 PM
#52
Do you think "satoshi" will ever just randomly log in one day and post something?

It seems as if that would be the only way for "satoshi" to ever be proven to be who he is.


I don't really think that its not really necessary for Satoshi to come out to prove to anyone that he is this individual or that person. I really don't understand why people want to know the identity of Satoshi. If he wanted to be known, he would have provided that information long time ago.
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August 19, 2019, 06:29:44 PM
#51
Do you think "satoshi" will ever just randomly log in one day and post something?

Is it an answerable question, mate?
I just wonder if not only people, maybe even he doesn't know the answer. Except, Satoshi has planned to leave temporarily and will be back someday. Because of the reason, I think this will be endless to discuss. When you think have got some good answers, then you are better to lock this thread.

Anyway, theymos has answered the question. So, there is no reason to continue this discussion.

Do you think "satoshi" will ever just randomly log in one day and post something?

His account is locked, so no. If he wants to claim his account, he'll have to contact me with a PGP signature.
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August 19, 2019, 06:17:03 PM
#50
billionaires don't post on forums

He's not a billionaire yet!
There will never be a Bitcoin Billionaire.

I call on that statement.  I believe we will eventually have a Bitcoin Billionaire.

I love looking back through old post!!! I hope you went all in on this bet like you said lol.. Because at todays prices if Satoshi is holding 980,000 BTC He would be worth in upwards of $10 billion dollars!!! That is only half of the current All Time High of $20,000. In late 2017 He would have had 20 Billion dollars...  I wish I knew about bitcoin in these days... My life would be way diffrent then it is now!!!!
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April 27, 2013, 08:45:26 AM
#49
This has probably been discussed elsewhere, but what's with the domain name registration for bitcointalk.org? I would assume that Satoshi is the original registrar of the domain, but maybe has handed that off to others, in part to protect his identity? If not, than he is still involved in as much as he re-registers the domain every couple of years or whatever... if that's the case, then he might always jump back into the fray since he's paying to keep the board operating?

(yeah, I know I can do a whois search, but... #1 I'm feeling lazy this morning and... #2. half the time I do those searches, the results don't tell me much because it some corporate name that registered the domain.)



Bitcoin will become the new "One World Currency" because of a huge world financial fiasco and Satoshi will come out of hiding and be called a hero and "unite" the world together and throw in his stash of BTC to "help" perhaps as the antichrist? 

Hey,  it is a thought anyways.



Back during the big price climb a few weeks ago, Max Keiser did a a report where he referred to Satoshi as "Satoshi The Cyber-Christ".....

"Christ has returned.... and he's got Bitcoins!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t39jCXXIrY


 

What disadvantage could there be to his return right now? Well, he might commit suicide and his body be found with two bullets at the back of his head. Or you know he could be charged with rape based on the accusations of some ex cia pretending to be a bitcoin enthusiast who changes her mind about having sex a week later.


Nice Julian Assange Reference. :-D



I agree, No offence Satoshi if you read this.  but Has anyone read the wisdom of the crowd?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wisdom_of_Crowds

It would be clear that the repository of information of a single individual or even their ability to act in the world would be quite limited as a single individual.
An individual is limited as to how many things they can know, do or understand at a given moment.

and anyway, i don't think Satoshi would want to come back now, they definitely would become a martyr a central focus for the governments to torment.

Trust me, A few years back my dad had a flat rate taxi service, there was a lot of these little companies around, one guy even spent 150k just to do a feasability study as he was instructed to do and proved that it was feasible to implement... he got shot down of course. now if you read the little stickers on the taxi cabs... you'll notice that there is a notice that flat rate taxis are prohibited by by-law.

The government began to crack down on all 200 companies in the province of British Columbia citing that they were affecting the taxi cab industry and the job loss was intolerable... over 100,000 people lost their jobs in one fallow swoop of a pen. My dad was lucky enough that he fell under a Grandfather clause, he had made the first company with the model that other taxi companies followed.  They continued their assault relentless, he even got papers through freedom of information with citations on how they were going to screw him over... well they succeeded, started attacking his business from every angle that they could after that, lawyers wouldn't even take the case for fear of going against the government, saying this had little chance of succeeding it would be in the courts for decades.

I've lived long enough to see this happen over and over again... and it's nothing but a paragraph in a news paper buried under advertisements, no help will come.
All the little old ladies, the poor,and down trodden complained about the injustice, for 3 dollars they could go anywhere in the city, and be helped in unpacking their groceries, bring friends to places they could barely afford to go, and not wait out in the cold Canadian winters for a bus... their cries went unheard in the newspapers.

Satoshi would be crucified or worse..., If they did that to my Dad... can you imagine what the world governments would do to them? They don't care about the good that people do, they just want their money.

(If you think I'm putting too much info, if they come after me it is quite meaningless, Bitcoin has no central authority, and clones are popping up everywhere, their efforts would be wasted on me, though I am sure they'll find a solution and start implementing their own Bitcoin type system... so quite meaningless. They'll find a way to destroy it as they did my father.)

Your right, the sooner people realize that Governments are all about money and power the better. Too many naive puppies thinking the Government is working with your best interests in mind.

Satoshi would be wise to stay out of the fight ahead, he would be too easy a target especially with the millions or even billions he will eventually have.

drawingthesun and jdbtracker, I like the way you two think....

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-smashes-empires-184953


You know, that's one thing I like about this board versus most other places I visit on the internet.... the people here seem to be much better informed that the average person.
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April 26, 2013, 11:08:33 AM
#48


Your right, the sooner people realize that Governments are all about money and power the better. Too many naive puppies thinking the Government is working with your best interests in mind.

Satoshi would be wise to stay out of the fight ahead, he would be too easy a target especially with the millions or even billions he will eventually have.


It's not the governments... Psychopaths gravitate towards positions of power, they aim for these jobs and function within the shadow of the government.
some psychopaths own companies and convince with a smile and a wave these politicians to do their bidding. It is sad to think only 130 individuals control
who gets chosen to be elected.

read this and watch the TED talk that explains part of the problem.

http://blog.ted.com/2013/04/03/how-we-can-make-elections-about-the-people-not-just-funders-an-excerpt-of-lawrence-lessigs-new-ted-book-lesterland/
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April 26, 2013, 10:59:04 AM
#47
I agree, No offence Satoshi if you read this.  but Has anyone read the wisdom of the crowd?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wisdom_of_Crowds

It would be clear that the repository of information of a single individual or even their ability to act in the world would be quite limited as a single individual.
An individual is limited as to how many things they can know, do or understand at a given moment.

and anyway, i don't think Satoshi would want to come back now, they definitely would become a martyr a central focus for the governments to torment.

Trust me, A few years back my dad had a flat rate taxi service, there was a lot of these little companies around, one guy even spent 150k just to do a feasability study as he was instructed to do and proved that it was feasible to implement... he got shot down of course. now if you read the little stickers on the taxi cabs... you'll notice that there is a notice that flat rate taxis are prohibited by by-law.

The government began to crack down on all 200 companies in the province of British Columbia citing that they were affecting the taxi cab industry and the job loss was intolerable... over 100,000 people lost their jobs in one fallow swoop of a pen. My dad was lucky enough that he fell under a Grandfather clause, he had made the first company with the model that other taxi companies followed.  They continued their assault relentless, he even got papers through freedom of information with citations on how they were going to screw him over... well they succeeded, started attacking his business from every angle that they could after that, lawyers wouldn't even take the case for fear of going against the government, saying this had little chance of succeeding it would be in the courts for decades.

I've lived long enough to see this happen over and over again... and it's nothing but a paragraph in a news paper buried under advertisements, no help will come.
All the little old ladies, the poor,and down trodden complained about the injustice, for 3 dollars they could go anywhere in the city, and be helped in unpacking their groceries, bring friends to places they could barely afford to go, and not wait out in the cold Canadian winters for a bus... their cries went unheard in the newspapers.

Satoshi would be crucified or worse..., If they did that to my Dad... can you imagine what the world governments would do to them? They don't care about the good that people do, they just want their money.

(If you think I'm putting too much info, if they come after me it is quite meaningless, Bitcoin has no central authority, and clones are popping up everywhere, their efforts would be wasted on me, though I am sure they'll find a solution and start implementing their own Bitcoin type system... so quite meaningless. They'll find a way to destroy it as they did my father.)

Your right, the sooner people realize that Governments are all about money and power the better. Too many naive puppies thinking the Government is working with your best interests in mind.

Satoshi would be wise to stay out of the fight ahead, he would be too easy a target especially with the millions or even billions he will eventually have.
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April 26, 2013, 10:16:45 AM
#46
I agree, No offence Satoshi if you read this.  but Has anyone read the wisdom of the crowd?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wisdom_of_Crowds

It would be clear that the repository of information of a single individual or even their ability to act in the world would be quite limited as a single individual.
An individual is limited as to how many things they can know, do or understand at a given moment.

and anyway, i don't think Satoshi would want to come back now, they definitely would become a martyr a central focus for the governments to torment.

Trust me, A few years back my dad had a flat rate taxi service, there was a lot of these little companies around, one guy even spent 150k just to do a feasability study as he was instructed to do and proved that it was feasible to implement... he got shot down of course. now if you read the little stickers on the taxi cabs... you'll notice that there is a notice that flat rate taxis are prohibited by by-law.

The government began to crack down on all 200 companies in the province of British Columbia citing that they were affecting the taxi cab industry and the job loss was intolerable... over 100,000 people lost their jobs in one fallow swoop of a pen. My dad was lucky enough that he fell under a Grandfather clause, he had made the first company with the model that other taxi companies followed.  They continued their assault relentless, he even got papers through freedom of information with citations on how they were going to screw him over... well they succeeded, started attacking his business from every angle that they could after that, lawyers wouldn't even take the case for fear of going against the government, saying this had little chance of succeeding it would be in the courts for decades.

I've lived long enough to see this happen over and over again... and it's nothing but a paragraph in a news paper buried under advertisements, no help will come.
All the little old ladies, the poor,and down trodden complained about the injustice, for 3 dollars they could go anywhere in the city, and be helped in unpacking their groceries, bring friends to places they could barely afford to go, and not wait out in the cold Canadian winters for a bus... their cries went unheard in the newspapers.

Satoshi would be crucified or worse..., If they did that to my Dad... can you imagine what the world governments would do to them? They don't care about the good that people do, they just want their money.

(If you think I'm putting too much info, if they come after me it is quite meaningless, Bitcoin has no central authority, and clones are popping up everywhere, their efforts would be wasted on me, though I am sure they'll find a solution and start implementing their own Bitcoin type system... so quite meaningless. They'll find a way to destroy it as they did my father.)
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April 26, 2013, 08:55:25 AM
#45

People should be obsessed by Satoshi.

If Bitcoin is, as looks likely going to change the world of banking and economics and possibly how governments are run, what if the bitcoin code was developed by a government agency?

I find this scenario more likely given the way the financial institutions of the West, Fed/BOE/ECB/IMF seem hell bent on an economic apocalypse.

Even if they did then this will be an example of the pupil outgrowing its master.
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April 26, 2013, 08:54:27 AM
#44
I don't know why everyone is so obsessed with Satoshi.

What would his return achieve? Nothing!

What disadvantage could there be to his return right now? Well, he might commit suicide and his body be found with two bullets at the back of his head. Or you know he could be charged with rape based on the accusations of some ex cia pretending to be a bitcoin enthusiast who changes her mind about having sex a week later.

Leave the guy alone for the time being. If he is absolutely needed - unless he is dead - I am sure he will provide help one way or another. Until then, no point of him to show up just for 100000 posts of thank you and you are my hero etc. He knows all that.


That actually makes a lot of sense. His return in Bitcoin could only hurt the project
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April 26, 2013, 08:47:09 AM
#43
I don't know why everyone is so obsessed with Satoshi.

What would his return achieve? Nothing!

What disadvantage could there be to his return right now? Well, he might commit suicide and his body be found with two bullets at the back of his head. Or you know he could be charged with rape based on the accusations of some ex cia pretending to be a bitcoin enthusiast who changes her mind about having sex a week later.

Leave the guy alone for the time being. If he is absolutely needed - unless he is dead - I am sure he will provide help one way or another. Until then, no point of him to show up just for 100000 posts of thank you and you are my hero etc. He knows all that.



People should be obsessed by Satoshi.

If Bitcoin is, as looks likely going to change the world of banking and economics and possibly how governments are run, what if the bitcoin code was developed by a government agency?

I find this scenario more likely given the way the financial institutions of the West, Fed/BOE/ECB/IMF seem hell bent on an economic apocalypse.
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April 26, 2013, 08:36:32 AM
#42
I don't know why everyone is so obsessed with Satoshi.

What would his return achieve? Nothing!

What disadvantage could there be to his return right now? Well, he might commit suicide and his body be found with two bullets at the back of his head. Or you know he could be charged with rape based on the accusations of some ex cia pretending to be a bitcoin enthusiast who changes her mind about having sex a week later.

Leave the guy alone for the time being. If he is absolutely needed - unless he is dead - I am sure he will provide help one way or another. Until then, no point of him to show up just for 100000 posts of thank you and you are my hero etc. He knows all that.

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April 26, 2013, 08:18:30 AM
#41
billionaires don't post on forums

He's not a billionaire yet!
There will never be a Bitcoin Billionaire.

I call on that statement.  I believe we will eventually have a Bitcoin Billionaire.
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April 26, 2013, 08:04:29 AM
#40
Wolud you imagine Satoshi is involved in his next project, too busy to worry about bitcoin?

Ripple?  Grin

LOL!! 

+1
It is not that far from the truth actually Wink
But to answer that question, first one must ask: who is satoshi
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April 26, 2013, 08:03:56 AM
#39
Wolud you imagine Satoshi is involved in his next project, too busy to worry about bitcoin?

Ripple?  Grin

LOL!! 

+1
It is not that far from the truth actually Wink
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April 26, 2013, 06:37:32 AM
#38
Wolud you imagine Satoshi is involved in his next project, too busy to worry about bitcoin?

Ripple?  Grin
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April 26, 2013, 05:49:30 AM
#37
Wolud you imagine Satoshi is involved in his next project, too busy to worry about bitcoin?
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April 26, 2013, 05:21:16 AM
#36
You should ask administrator for this.
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April 26, 2013, 05:11:30 AM
#35
I love Satoshi, seeing what they built gave me hope.
I'm more determined than ever to make the world a better place.
If Satoshi reveals themselves when our Global Utopian society is founded I'm putting their picture on my wall; I'll fill up an entire wall with all their pictures if it's a group.
I'll point to that picture to my kids and say,"Dare to dream."
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April 26, 2013, 04:12:12 AM
#34
I think that if Satoshi ever came back, we wouldnt believe it was him. Just as we don't believe all people who say they are Jezus who came back :p

theymos already stated that Satoshi would have to prove himself by ways of a PGP signature before being allowed to use the Satoshi account.

So if Satoshi does post here using the Satoshi account we can be sure that it is Satoshi (unless it was April 1st and theymos was feeling mischievous)
hahaha ok. didnt know about the pgp Wink I stand corrected  Embarrassed

Do you run Satoshi Poker? If so how did you make the client program? I've been thinking about running a poker site but building a desktop client is such a hard task.
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April 26, 2013, 04:02:07 AM
#33
I think that if Satoshi ever came back, we wouldnt believe it was him. Just as we don't believe all people who say they are Jezus who came back :p

theymos already stated that Satoshi would have to prove himself by ways of a PGP signature before being allowed to use the Satoshi account.

So if Satoshi does post here using the Satoshi account we can be sure that it is Satoshi (unless it was April 1st and theymos was feeling mischievous)
hahaha ok. didnt know about the pgp Wink I stand corrected  Embarrassed
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April 26, 2013, 02:58:10 AM
#32
I think that if Satoshi ever came back, we wouldnt believe it was him. Just as we don't believe all people who say they are Jezus who came back :p

theymos already stated that Satoshi would have to prove himself by ways of a PGP signature before being allowed to use the Satoshi account.

So if Satoshi does post here using the Satoshi account we can be sure that it is Satoshi (unless it was April 1st and theymos was feeling mischievous)
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April 26, 2013, 02:51:24 AM
#31
jesus didn't have a PGP key
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April 26, 2013, 02:42:24 AM
#30
I think that if Satoshi ever came back, we wouldnt believe it was him. Just as we don't believe all people who say they are Jezus who came back :p
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April 25, 2013, 06:21:29 PM
#28
Bitcoin will become the new "One World Currency" because of a huge world financial fiasco and Satoshi will come out of hiding and be called a hero and "unite" the world together and throw in his stash of BTC to "help" perhaps as the antichrist?  

Hey,  it is a thought anyways.



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April 25, 2013, 01:17:32 PM
#27
billionaires don't post on forums

He's not a billionaire yet!
There will never be a Bitcoin Billionaire.

Do you think a single bitcoin will ever reach $20,000? Because there's a single guy out there with 50,000 BTC
Yes no problem at all. keyword, hyperinflation
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April 25, 2013, 01:12:56 PM
#26
Do you think "satoshi" will ever just randomly log in one day and post something?

No. He's still here, I suspect, but retaining that identity was unnecessarily dangerous.

It seems as if that would be the only way for "satoshi" to ever be proven to be who he is.

Now I very much doubt he intends to do this, but there are certainly other and more reliable ways: signing a message indicating his identity with an address that's provably his (e.g. the genesis block reward address), for one.

I agree that he's here and around, he's just abandoned that hot account. No need for it anymore.

Secondly, he still has the other private key to put out messages over the bitcoin-client network notification system; only him and Gavin can do that afaik, so he can still prove his identity and get emergency messages out if need be.
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April 25, 2013, 01:12:22 PM
#25
Do you think "satoshi" will ever just randomly log in one day and post something?

His account is locked, so no. If he wants to claim his account, he'll have to contact me with a PGP signature.
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April 25, 2013, 01:09:14 PM
#24
billionaires don't post on forums

He's not a billionaire yet!
There will never be a Bitcoin Billionaire.

Do you think a single bitcoin will ever reach $20,000? Because there's a single guy out there with 50,000 BTC

Mylon meant no one will ever be a billionaire in Bitcoin terms (Having a billion Bitcoins)

Ah, good point, he's right.
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April 25, 2013, 12:59:51 PM
#23
billionaires don't post on forums

He's not a billionaire yet!
There will never be a Bitcoin Billionaire.

Do you think a single bitcoin will ever reach $20,000? Because there's a single guy out there with 50,000 BTC

Mylon meant no one will ever be a billionaire in Bitcoin terms (Having a billion Bitcoins)
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April 25, 2013, 12:46:35 PM
#22
billionaires don't post on forums

He's not a billionaire yet!
There will never be a Bitcoin Billionaire.

Do you think a single bitcoin will ever reach $20,000? Because there's a single guy out there with 50,000 BTC
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April 25, 2013, 12:15:46 PM
#21
Satoshi is not a billionaire yet, but in the future when a single bitcoin is a million dollars worth of fiat, he will have trillions.

On topic, it's more likely someone hacks his account and posts here pretending it's him.
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#20
billionaires don't post on forums

He's not a billionaire yet!
There will never be a Bitcoin Billionaire.
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April 25, 2013, 11:33:08 AM
#19
billionaires don't post on forums

He's not a billionaire yet!
Bro
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April 25, 2013, 11:29:18 AM
#18
billionaires don't post on forums
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April 25, 2013, 11:18:10 AM
#17
Best way for him to prove who he is, is to sign a message using his PGP key. Though he may have thrown it out. I know I would have, since it would be too tempting to keep around, and any random newb coming in claiming to be Satoshi will be laughed out rather quickly. So, really, Satoshi can safely stay on this forum, since if he says he's Satoshi, no one will believe him. For example, I'm Satoshi  Grin (Which is all something who was real Satoshi would say and want you to think.)

No, I'm Satoshi  Wink.
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April 25, 2013, 08:47:07 AM
#16
I personally would be very surprised if he made another appearance on the forum. Right now he is mysterious and to some people almost mythological, whereas if he comes back he becomes just another guy posting on the forum.
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April 25, 2013, 07:27:22 AM
#15
dts, even considering that possibility will now give me nightmares for the rest of my days.  Cry

I'll refrain from quoting your post in the hopes you will delete it but I'm afraid the damage has been done and I will never be able to un-think that terrible thought.

Haha I'm laughing so much right now!

So are we sure Maria is not Satoshi? Smiley Smiley Smiley
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dts, even considering that possibility will now give me nightmares for the rest of my days.  Cry

I'll refrain from quoting your post in the hopes you will delete it but I'm afraid the damage has been done and I will never be able to un-think that terrible thought.
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April 25, 2013, 07:11:57 AM
#13
She posts here under a different identity and is a well-known troll.

Your not talking about Maria are you?
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She posts here under a different identity and is a well-known troll.

I am not.
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#11
She posts here under a different identity and is a well-known troll.
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April 24, 2013, 10:31:33 PM
#10
Surely he's reading these topics and chuckling to himself.

Come on guys, this is not a mythical figure, it's a guy just like us who picked a different forum handle. It's probably one of the hero members.
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April 24, 2013, 10:22:53 PM
#9
Every reference to Satoshi at this point must be followed by this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKCmyiljKo0
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April 24, 2013, 10:18:28 PM
#8
Best way for him to prove who he is, is to sign a message using his PGP key. Though he may have thrown it out. I know I would have, since it would be too tempting to keep around, and any random newb coming in claiming to be Satoshi will be laughed out rather quickly. So, really, Satoshi can safely stay on this forum, since if he says he's Satoshi, no one will believe him. For example, I'm Satoshi  Grin (Which is all something who was real Satoshi would say and want you to think.)
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April 24, 2013, 09:06:20 PM
#7
Wenbo Mao can't step forward as Satoshi. He's gone to the stars now.
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April 24, 2013, 09:03:11 PM
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Perhaps... if he hasn't forgotten his password by now.  Grin
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April 24, 2013, 08:49:37 PM
#5
Do you think "satoshi" will ever just randomly log in one day and post something?

No. He's still here, I suspect, but retaining that identity was unnecessarily dangerous.

It seems as if that would be the only way for "satoshi" to ever be proven to be who he is.

Now I very much doubt he intends to do this, but there are certainly other and more reliable ways: signing a message indicating his identity with an address that's provably his (e.g. the genesis block reward address), for one.
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April 24, 2013, 08:46:36 PM
#4
I thought satoshi's account had been locked, though.
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April 24, 2013, 08:43:17 PM
#3
The second atonement of Satoshi
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April 24, 2013, 07:52:22 PM
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Doesn't seem very likely at this point, but nobody can really say for sure :\
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April 24, 2013, 07:39:38 PM
#1
Do you think "satoshi" will ever just randomly log in one day and post something?

It seems as if that would be the only way for "satoshi" to ever be proven to be who he is.
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