Topic: Will the idea of sharing referral links be as effective? (Read 336 times)
I don't see the benefit of it. Anyone who wishes to bring new people to the forum can do that simply by sharing a normal link to the forum itself with some basic information about what users can find here. It doesn't have to be a referral link. I also don't see the benefit for either the newbie or the person who refers them to be tied to one person. Public forums are there to share opinions and to come to the best conclusions. A problem can have many different solutions and only by talking about it openly will you understand what the best one is for you. Even the most knowledgeable individuals can make mistakes or forget to provide the most complete information. That's why it's useful to have multiple inputs from different people.
Are you suggesting we use referral links for registrations on a white list where you can only sign up through someone's referral link? If so, that doesn't solve anything; spammers, AI content and bounty hunters will still find ways to sign up, while it may discourage new members who are actually interested in the forum from signing up. On the other hand, like other users already suggested, there's already a beginner section; we don't need to guide people as they're pets; this forum isn't nuclear science enough to require a mentor. I find it completely unnecessary.
Referral links in my opinion doesn't really encourage people to do the mentorship in the first place because being a mentor means you know what you're doing and that you know what you're getting into and I don't think that will come to you even at a thought when it comes to referral links. Most likely, the thing that you would be is the quotas and you would definitely be putting all of your focus in that part because that's where the money is and I don't think that you'd ever deviate from it so I feel like referral links encourages spamming or reaching quotas rather than mentorship.
There's no reason at all to put a referral link because there's no Income here if you just post unless you joined in the signature campaign. Forum is solely focus for the discussion and exchange of information that helps people each other in the community. I guess you've seen that in an other forum like crypto talk that you can invite other people to get paid and also paid every time to post. It's just become spam of newbie accounts if this referral makes happen.
Referral links to any service are not allowed inside Bitcointalk, unless they are in your signature.
But if you are talking about referral links to Bitcointalk itself, that doesn't make much sense either. What exactly will the referrer be earning? I don't think the forum treasury would ever be put to use for paying off things like that. SMF doesn't have code for tracking these things either which complicates matters.
But if you are talking about referral links to Bitcointalk itself, that doesn't make much sense either. What exactly will the referrer be earning? I don't think the forum treasury would ever be put to use for paying off things like that. SMF doesn't have code for tracking these things either which complicates matters.
Will referral links shared as invites for newbies not be a way to help add content quality to this forum?
It is in the sense that, referral links from seniors or old knowledgeable members automatically bestows the responsibility of mentorship on the person sharing the link to the newbies of whom accepts and clicks to join through the referral links they were shared to join this Bitcoin talk forum with?
What's your opinion?
It won't help the forum in anyway, it will only succeed in registering bunch of accounts that won't last for long because the moment they realize that nothing is in it for them they won't be coming online again Secondly you can't keep control of who will use your referral link, because the moment you send out your link to someone you know, there is every possibility that your link will get to people you don't know, and when they get here and starts doing stuffs that are against the forum rules, the blame is likely to be shifted to the person who has the invite link that brought them in the first place. It is in the sense that, referral links from seniors or old knowledgeable members automatically bestows the responsibility of mentorship on the person sharing the link to the newbies of whom accepts and clicks to join through the referral links they were shared to join this Bitcoin talk forum with?
What's your opinion?
Invite a person to the forum using your referral link, help him in every possible way, and accordingly bear responsibility for all his actions. I would say that we can trust a tiny circle of people in our lives, and these people, therefore, receive all our love and respect, just as they do not need any referral links. In addition, whenever there is a benefit for the mentor, there is a financial incentive. What incentive could inspire a person to give his time to strangers who want his attention?
Will referral links shared as invites for newbies not be a way to help add content quality to this forum?
It is in the sense that, referral links from seniors or old knowledgeable members automatically bestows the responsibility of mentorship on the person sharing the link to the newbies of whom accepts and clicks to join through the referral links they were shared to join this Bitcoin talk forum with?
What's your opinion?
How exactly could referral spam affect the quality of the forum?It is in the sense that, referral links from seniors or old knowledgeable members automatically bestows the responsibility of mentorship on the person sharing the link to the newbies of whom accepts and clicks to join through the referral links they were shared to join this Bitcoin talk forum with?
What's your opinion?
Allowing the placement of referral links would only bring more off-topic spam posts, and that has nothing to do with newbie accounts only. Many legendary members have such status only because they had enough activity before merit introduction.
For this, it can only mean that the incentive attached to the referral programs will be attractive enough, and behold, many users will misuse the advantage. So we should expect spam, more worthless accounts and most importantly too many abandoned and banned accounts.
Will referral links shared as invites for newbies not be a way to help add content quality to this forum?
It is in the sense that, referral links from seniors or old knowledgeable members automatically bestows the responsibility of mentorship on the person sharing the link to the newbies of whom accepts and clicks to join through the referral links they were shared to join this Bitcoin talk forum with?
What's your opinion?
How exactly could referral spam affect the quality of the forum?It is in the sense that, referral links from seniors or old knowledgeable members automatically bestows the responsibility of mentorship on the person sharing the link to the newbies of whom accepts and clicks to join through the referral links they were shared to join this Bitcoin talk forum with?
What's your opinion?
Allowing the placement of referral links would only bring more off-topic spam posts, and that has nothing to do with newbie accounts only. Many legendary members have such status only because they had enough activity before merit introduction.
Will referral links shared as invites for newbies not be a way to help add content quality to this forum?
We already have beginners and help section that let newbie create a thread and ask questions about what they want to learn. Additionally, there’s a lot of guide thread that cover almost everything that newbie wants to learn on Bitcoin coming from reputable member.
Mentorship is really good but I doubt someone reputable and knowledgeable will have a spare time mentoring someone personally while there’s a lot of reading material already available to guide newbie if they will be patient on learning.
Most of us use forum for leisure time since we have real job that occupy most of my time. Referral without anything to gain is just an excess baggage.
One of the reasons why newbies fall to scam easily is their naivety and quest for a easy way out. They do not realize that they can fall into the wrong hands and get scammed. You do not need a mentor to use the forum, the forum rules are easy to understand.
Your mentor should be the forum search engine. You are free to follow certain users who are more knowledgeable in areas that you are interested in. You can observe how they make posts and interact with other members on the forum.
Your mentor should be the forum search engine. You are free to follow certain users who are more knowledgeable in areas that you are interested in. You can observe how they make posts and interact with other members on the forum.
If it's just for payment purposes only, I don't think people should worry about the value, as what they are expected to pay for each purchase will be measured and the bitcoin price will leave no disadvantage.
Don't categorize people has always the idea of bitcoin=bitcoin, maximalist have that kind of thinking. Most people who came buy, hold, invest on bitcoin is because of its price — in exchange of USD or its local currencies.Sharing referral links in a forum is an obvious useless, even on social media platforms too, experienced it on different forums as most users there have an idea how it works. I'm an affiliate for several years now, i usually get invites from my sites banner and content also for third party ads, either google or facebook ads.
I use links to this forum to try to persuade people to pay me using Bitcoin. I still think that the best way to pick up Bitcoin is to sell stuff, and accept payment in Bitcoin. It's a bit of a struggle though, and the high value of Bitcoin puts off some people.
If it's just for payment purposes only, I don't think people should worry about the value, as what they are expected to pay for each purchase will be measured and the bitcoin price will leave no disadvantage.Unless it's for those who wish to buy and hold it as a reserve or for whatever reason, looking at the value and declining the decision to buy is also not a good idea, as the price they meet today might be considered the cheapest value compared to what it might be in the near future.
Back to the matter of the day, I also don't see a need for referrals; the forum doesn't have a need for that. If you need to invite anyone to the forum, it can be done even without using a referral link, and one can still choose a mentor on the forum without knowing who brought them there.
Sharing referral links is a tricky subject.
If you have an account on a popular social media platform, the chances are they already banned sharing ref links. It because the owners don’t want to have garbage content on their platform. They want you to work for free and they will put their own ref links in their ad space.
If you have your own platform (a website, forum etc) which has many visitors or a youtube channel where it is easier to share these stuff, then the chances are you are a good content creator already and it means you know your stuff.
I suggest you to take the hard way and focus on your content first. Whether it is a youtube channel, blog, art gallery it doesn’t matter. All of them have their own audience. Spamming links will get you nowhere.
If you have an account on a popular social media platform, the chances are they already banned sharing ref links. It because the owners don’t want to have garbage content on their platform. They want you to work for free and they will put their own ref links in their ad space.
If you have your own platform (a website, forum etc) which has many visitors or a youtube channel where it is easier to share these stuff, then the chances are you are a good content creator already and it means you know your stuff.
I suggest you to take the hard way and focus on your content first. Whether it is a youtube channel, blog, art gallery it doesn’t matter. All of them have their own audience. Spamming links will get you nowhere.
Referral link? Lol is that something here on BitcoinTalk? Alot of persons here on the forum, who invites others are mostly people whom are very close to them. Maybe friends in real life or family members. And if you are inviting them here, they will definitely look upon you as a tour guide through the forum. They may have to ask you so many questions before they can navigate the forum on their own. Literally you become their mentor as they keep note of what you do and how you do it so they can learn.
Am coming from the angle that sees referral links being created to support real mentoring if need be, besides the regular sign up and login process that is the current way to own an account and is a task for newbies to conform to when visiting this Bitcointalk forum site.Furthermore, for decentralization to still be promoted in bitcoin adoption, there should be no obvious ties between members of the forum for the gospel to be effective and I'm very comfortable knowing that I am responsible only for my account on this forum and my performance is not measured by some people who may not be really serious.
My vote includes
Yes, it would be effective - 0 (0%)
No, it won't and should not be talked about - 6 (100%)
Total Voters: 6
Prohibiting referral links is a way for the forum to prevent spammers, fake developers, and admins from creating an announcement.
Imagine casino promoters or any other platforms that thrive on referrals imitating the developers to get sign-ups. It will be effective for affiliates to get sign-ups, but it will mess up the forum, and it will be added work for moderators to weed out spammers.
Yes, it would be effective - 0 (0%)
No, it won't and should not be talked about - 6 (100%)
Total Voters: 6
Prohibiting referral links is a way for the forum to prevent spammers, fake developers, and admins from creating an announcement.
Imagine casino promoters or any other platforms that thrive on referrals imitating the developers to get sign-ups. It will be effective for affiliates to get sign-ups, but it will mess up the forum, and it will be added work for moderators to weed out spammers.
Will referral links shared as invites for newbies not be a way to help add content quality to this forum?
It is in the sense that, referral links from seniors or old knowledgeable members automatically bestows the responsibility of mentorship on the person sharing the link to the newbies of whom accepts and clicks to join through the referral links they were shared to join this Bitcoin talk forum with?
What's your opinion?
It is in the sense that, referral links from seniors or old knowledgeable members automatically bestows the responsibility of mentorship on the person sharing the link to the newbies of whom accepts and clicks to join through the referral links they were shared to join this Bitcoin talk forum with?
What's your opinion?
I still think you haven’t put out the main reason why a referral is needed here. First referrals are used when you wish to create traffic on your channel and this are basically done but forums looking to earn money through it which is definitely not this type of forum. Again people sharing referrals are rewarded for their work this forum isn’t a generating any money from registrations to warrant paying those who will share them. Even if it starts paying them then here will be filled with spam as many people will be just here for that purpose and not to add any value or learn anything.
Lastly why do one needs to send links to some that wants to learn, I think they the learners are the ones that needs to find help and should someone decides to bring them here, the normal link will be there to use
Will referral links shared as invites for newbies not be a way to help add content quality to this forum?
It is in the sense that, referral links from seniors or old knowledgeable members automatically bestows the responsibility of mentorship on the person sharing the link to the newbies of whom accepts and clicks to join through the referral links they were shared to join this Bitcoin talk forum with?
What's your opinion?
This forum will end up as a CPA forum members will just get a link to sites like Clickbank use their status to monetize to get sign ups, we should not use our status to abuse newbies in exchange for mentorship when we should do it for free.It is in the sense that, referral links from seniors or old knowledgeable members automatically bestows the responsibility of mentorship on the person sharing the link to the newbies of whom accepts and clicks to join through the referral links they were shared to join this Bitcoin talk forum with?
What's your opinion?
And since referral links are allowed expect a lot of spammers, shills and fake marketers in this forum these people will not share their knowledge without getting something in return.
I use links to this forum to try to persuade people to pay me using Bitcoin. I still think that the best way to pick up Bitcoin is to sell stuff, and accept payment in Bitcoin. It's a bit of a struggle though, and the high value of Bitcoin puts off some people.
I disagree with your narrative and ideology behind sharing referral links to invite more people to the Forum, I believe more people will join, but would lead to illegal dealings (Monetary in name of Tutorials, many more), in the name of Mentorship besides this is a general forum where anyone can come and learn about Bitcoin Ecosystem themselves of which there is also a Discussion Board for Beginners (newbies), so I see no need for Mentorship when question and also answers can be sorted out, unless the individual is dumb or probably find ot difficult to comprehend stuffs.
It's an awful idea in my opinion. I think the forum should be for people who want to learn and made a research and found themselves here. It has to be a forum for people interested in bitcoin. With referral link people would go about bring every kind of people to the forum even people that are not interested or can't contribute in the forum.
There is already a link to get to the forum, all you need to do is copy and send to anybody you meet who is genuinely ready to learn about bitcoin or someone who is looking for a reputable bitcoin community to be part of.
I don't see a need for a referral link, no point at all.
There is already a link to get to the forum, all you need to do is copy and send to anybody you meet who is genuinely ready to learn about bitcoin or someone who is looking for a reputable bitcoin community to be part of.
I don't see a need for a referral link, no point at all.
I don’t see how and why someone would be sticking out his or her neck to be a mentor when, you could learn from anyone and everyone.
Also, just having to invite someone and then, getting to teach to them what you know serves the same purpose as is proposed on the OP. A referrer would only mean, a way to draw attention to yourself or as one that have some many invites to their name and I see how this could constitute a lot of problems.
People will be in the league of who have or haven’t invited more and in some way, your referrers would be tide to you as one who knows them and is supposed to teach to them. There isn’t a need for a referrer or mentorship.
Newbies do not need a mentor for Bitcointalk. Anyone who creates an account here can find the Beginners & Help section and learn from what the older members of the forum posted. This idea will only encourage newbies to be lazy and can slow down their learning because they might be overly dependent on their mentor and will not go any further in researching if not instructed by their mentor.
What’s so difficult about making some researches yourself. DYOR and stop acting naive all the time. When you are stuck on something, you can ask on the forum or better still use the search engine
What’s so difficult about making some researches yourself. DYOR and stop acting naive all the time. When you are stuck on something, you can ask on the forum or better still use the search engine
Will referral links shared as invites for newbies not be a way to help add content quality to this forum?
It is in the sense that, referral links from seniors or old knowledgeable members automatically bestows the responsibility of mentorship on the person sharing the link to the newbies of whom accepts and clicks to join through the referral links they were shared to join this Bitcoin talk forum with?
What's your opinion?
My thought is that anyone who wants others to benefit from Bitcointalk can simply share "bitcointalk.org" with them. This forum is a non-profit forum to warrant paying referrers, nor is it ready to give a kind of privilege to the person who referred the most. What if the person is even a low-quality poster? This will always be a discouragement. Also, don't forget that if allowed, many will refer themselves, their friends and family who are not even interested in the forum and still claim the possible benefits.It is in the sense that, referral links from seniors or old knowledgeable members automatically bestows the responsibility of mentorship on the person sharing the link to the newbies of whom accepts and clicks to join through the referral links they were shared to join this Bitcoin talk forum with?
What's your opinion?
On the privacy aspect, this forum is more privacy-incline, the moment too many people are linked to you through referrals, the more your privacy is being compromised. We don't have to know who knows who.
I also do think otherwise of this referral system; it might only end up bringing in more spam to the forum than before, since those you might share the referral link with might think there is something to benefit in an instant as soon as they sign up, which will be different.
And another thing is that when you use your referral link to refer people directly to this place and one or two of such people carry out a scam scheme that affects members of the forum, won't the person who invited him or her here be held accountable to some point?
And another thing is that when you use your referral link to refer people directly to this place and one or two of such people carry out a scam scheme that affects members of the forum, won't the person who invited him or her here be held accountable to some point?
What's the benefit?
If you're only ask seniors or old users to become a volunteer without any reward, I really doubt they want to do it when most users in this forum will not make a post when they're not participate in signature campaign.
And if there's a reward, I expect people will abuse it, so the administrators need to put extra work.
If you're only ask seniors or old users to become a volunteer without any reward, I really doubt they want to do it when most users in this forum will not make a post when they're not participate in signature campaign.
And if there's a reward, I expect people will abuse it, so the administrators need to put extra work.
Will referral links shared as invites for newbies not be a way to help add content quality to this forum?
If newbies search about Bitcoin, and with one of key words as forum like Bitcoin + forum, they will be directed here by many search engines.The forum is not an exchange so a referral link does not bring anything to a referrer, no income and what is benefit of it. In some years ago like 2017 and 2018, with ICO appearances, many altcoin projects direct newbies, spammers to this forum and it only brings traffics but the negative effect is spam a lot.
As consequence of spam, forum has the merit system since 2018. Will referral links cause a new spam generation in the forum?
Will we have merit system version 3.0 plus referral links?
[...] What's your opinion?
That won't help at all, if the referral system is implemented then it will create default links for all users, these links could be misused by irresponsible spammers.
Forget what i said above, because that's not the point, the point is, who wants to responsibly mentor new users without getting paid? users in this forum have their own lives, and if new users have questions, they can immediately make a thread & other members can answer them.
Referral link? Lol is that something here on BitcoinTalk? Alot of persons here on the forum, who invites others are mostly people whom are very close to them. Maybe friends in real life or family members. And if you are inviting them here, they will definitely look upon you as a tour guide through the forum. They may have to ask you so many questions before they can navigate the forum on their own. Literally you become their mentor as they keep note of what you do and how you do it so they can learn.
Am coming from the angle that sees referral links being created to support real mentoring if need be, besides the regular sign up and login process that is the current way to own an account and is a task for newbies to conform to when visiting this Bitcointalk forum site. 
Referral link? Lol is that something here on BitcoinTalk? Alot of persons here on the forum, who invites others are mostly people whom are very close to them. Maybe friends in real life or family members. And if you are inviting them here, they will definitely look upon you as a tour guide through the forum. They may have to ask you so many questions before they can navigate the forum on their own. Literally you become their mentor as they keep note of what you do and how you do it so they can learn.
Will referral links shared as invites for newbies not be a way to help add content quality to this forum?
It is in the sense that, referral links from seniors or old knowledgeable members automatically bestows the responsibility of mentorship on the person sharing the link to the newbies of whom accepts and clicks to join through the referral links they were shared to join this Bitcoin talk forum with?
What's your opinion?
It is in the sense that, referral links from seniors or old knowledgeable members automatically bestows the responsibility of mentorship on the person sharing the link to the newbies of whom accepts and clicks to join through the referral links they were shared to join this Bitcoin talk forum with?
What's your opinion?
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