Will This Bull Run Increase the Number of Signature Campaigns?

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Quote from: KingsDen on November 19, 2024, 04:54:42 PM

Naturally, bull run comes with alot of signature campaigns, reasons being;

New projects are often launched during the bull run.
If I have a project to launch when BTC was at $46k and my budget was $10k. If I was patient and saved the money, by now my budget should worth more than $20k, which means I have no excuse than to launch the campaign.

It is evident that there is inflation and regardless of Bitcoin, $100 does not have the same value as it did 5 or 10 years ago. It is interesting that the payment rate in signature campaigns not follows inflation but also the most common current payment rate can be considered lower compared to some earlier times. Regardless of the bull run or without it.

It is mixers that soard the campaign rate in the past, such as chipmixer that paid as high as $1.5k. Later dropped to $300 before their exit. Another mixer Sinbad also did high amount before the ban of mixers advertisment here and their sudden exit. Apart from the mixers, signature rates have been consistent.
The major difference is that there were more quality posters who could proudly reject $100 campaign then. Now we have less quality posters who could be legendary members but willing to accept $20 full member slot.

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Quote from: KingsDen on November 19, 2024, 04:54:42 PM

Naturally, bull run comes with alot of signature campaigns, reasons being;

New projects are often launched during the bull run.
If I have a project to launch when BTC was at $46k and my budget was $10k. If I was patient and saved the money, by now my budget should worth more than $20k, which means I have no excuse than to launch the campaign.

It is evident that there is inflation and regardless of Bitcoin, $100 does not have the same value as it did 5 or 10 years ago. It is interesting that the payment rate in signature campaigns not follows inflation but also the most common current payment rate can be considered lower compared to some earlier times. Regardless of the bull run or without it.

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I understand your point. Inactive doesn't mean the person.is not active here again but activeness of the person has reduced. Like if he was posting 6-7 or more a day when the person was in campaign but now that he is not in campaign the number has reduced. That is normal.
But I don't think the bull and bear markets have anything to do with the increase and decrease of signature campaigns. When I came I have not noticed that. Campaigns can come at all time . But in 2022, many campaigns left the forum because of the bear market.

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Naturally, bull run comes with alot of signature campaigns, reasons being;

New projects are often launched during the bull run.
If I have a project to launch when BTC was at $46k and my budget was $10k. If I was patient and saved the money, by now my budget should worth more than $20k, which means I have no excuse than to launch the campaign.

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Campaigns will come and go, a bull run mostly pumped due to political reasons will not stay for long.

I have seen that most casino campaigns at present are not running for long. Probably they are not finding enough fruit of the investment they are making here. Gone are the days for 2-3years of campaigns running in the forum. These days we are just happy if we see it run for a month.

That might just coincide with the bitcoin price going bullish, that correlation does not indicate causation.

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It seems like it’s really happening. I didn’t count, but I’ve noticed a lot of new signature campaigns popping up this month, and with Bitcoin hitting $93k, it’s a clear sign that the market has turned bullish. Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if more campaigns show up in the next few days, it’s like everyone wants to jump in and join the bull party.

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Quote from: hd49728 on October 19, 2024, 11:01:18 AM

Some no KYC exchanges were not accepted to advertise with signature campaigns too.

Do I miss something? Who didn't let them to advertise? Because signature campaigns don't need any permission to start and even big scams like 1xbit had their campaigns.
When theymos used to sell ad slots on Bitcointalk, he rejected quite many services, but it's already different stuff than Signature campaigns.

Maybe he means this?

Are no-KYC services banned?

Regarding the main point of the thread, I think yes, it will be noticed, but I do not think it will be much more than now, we are not in a bull run itself, we are at the top of the price and at a time of the cycle where it will foreseeably rise in the next 12 months or so. If I were to hire signature campaings to advertise my service I would not do it at the peak of the cycle, now could be the best time.

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Quote from: hd49728 on October 19, 2024, 11:01:18 AM

Some no KYC exchanges were not accepted to advertise with signature campaigns too.

Do I miss something? Who didn't let them to advertise? Because signature campaigns don't need any permission to start and even big scams like 1xbit had their campaigns.
When theymos used to sell ad slots on Bitcointalk, he rejected quite many services, but it's already different stuff than Signature campaigns.

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Quote from: Sanitough on October 15, 2024, 10:36:39 PM

Just recently I noticed that signature campaigns are getting fewer, right? I see a lot of participants who used to be super active, but now they’re out of campaigns. I’ve also been out for a few months, trying to stay active now, hoping to land a spot again soon. With the market getting bullish lately, and all this talk about possibly breaking the ATH, I’m really wondering…

Ban on mixers and no KYC exchanges reduce number of signature campaigns in the forum. Because we all know that there are two main company types that want to advertise on bitcointalk, gambling companies and mixers (or no KYC exchanges).

Banning against mixers since January 2024 actually took out many signature campaigns from mixers. Some no KYC exchanges were not accepted to advertise with signature campaigns too.

But if it is about campaigns from gambling companies, I see a good increase recent months.

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Quote from: Sanitough on October 15, 2024, 10:36:39 PM

So, based on your experience or what you've seen, do you think more companies will start launching campaigns? And will people like me, who’ve been inactive for a bit, have a better shot at getting back in?

Back in the days, the market being bullish increase the numbers of bounties getting launched because it attracts more projects as it's the bull market and there's always extra funds being invested into altcoins from investors.

So many projects gets launched during this period but it doesn't necessary increases the numbers of signature campaign because we have more of casinos doing signature and the state of the market doesn't influence the quantity being launched.

The bull market bring more people to the forum so there might even be less slots available since the quantity of participants increase and we don't always have increased of campaign.

To get a slot in campaign, stay active or you can better still go promote bounties as we have some paying in stablecoin but the payrate isn't as high as those on the service board but atleast you get to receive some pay.

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Most of the new campaigns that launch only accept a few members and are discontinued after about a month. There are some campaigns that have been running for a long time but they rarely have open slots. I was in a long running campaign before but was removed to make room for members from other campaigns that had stopped running. Now it has become like musical chairs where you are constantly moving from one campaign to another.

Crypto is not so niche anymore where Bitcointalk is automatically the best place to advertise. While being on Bitcointalk can still give a business a lot of visibility, there are many other websites that have surpassed its popularity and can be great places to promote a casino or exchange service. I do not expect there to be a sudden resurgence in signature campaigns because there are many more websites to compete with for the advertising budgets of these companies.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on October 18, 2024, 08:03:08 PM

I see a few saying that there are still the same number of campaigns as usual, but I think people are missing the point. Back in 2017 there were tons of campaigns hiring tons of users. I was managing more than 500 people over 14 campaigns at one point. Lots of campaigns hiring 30-100 users and these days you see campaigns hiring 6-15 users and running for 1-2 weeks on average. Of course there are some that are way above those numbers, but on average the number of participants is a lot lower than it used to be.

Most of the users who say campaign numbers haven’t really changed much are those who created their accounts after the 2017 bull run. But those who’ve been here since 2015 or earlier would likely agree with you.

The evidence is clear when you look at how things were before. (Campaign Management (Accepting campaigns for Altcoinstalks also) ^{BTW, great job for updating the pictures..}

You’ve always been one of my favorite campaign managers, even though I didn’t join many of your campaigns in the past.Seeing campaigns hiring 20+ users back then was something else. It felt like there was room for everyone to join a high-paying campaign, with legendary ranks earning around 0.04 BTC per week or more. If you consistently participated and held your earnings, you could’ve been a millionaire by now with Bitcoin’s current value.

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I see a few saying that there are still the same number of campaigns as usual, but I think people are missing the point. Back in 2017 there were tons of campaigns hiring tons of users. I was managing more than 500 people over 14 campaigns at one point. Lots of campaigns hiring 30-100 users and these days you see campaigns hiring 6-15 users and running for 1-2 weeks on average. Of course there are some that are way above those numbers, but on average the number of participants is a lot lower than it used to be.

Will more companies launch campaigns? Hard to say, companies will continue to use bitcointalk as long as they see value in the campaign. The ICO days are pretty much over, so companies hiring 50-100 users will be few and far between, but I have been seeing a lot of new casinos pop up in the past year. Never know what's going to happen in the future, but I'd stay active if you can make decent posts.

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It is not certain that when the bullrun event comes around it will boost the signature campaign on this forum.
But what I've noticed is that most companies launching signature campaigns now are casinos and swap/dex platforms like Exch or others, if it's from an altcoin company then they do more of a social media campaign by inviting influencers to pitch their project.

If mixers, for example, are not banned on this forum, this is probably what will pop up a lot.

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@Sanitough, I personally think that inactivity is not too big a problem if you show that you are not some ordinary spammer who can't write two meaningful sentences. If you follow when new spots are opened or when a new sig campaign appears, I think you have a good chance of being selected. In the meantime, you can wear the signature of one of the free campaigns.

As for the bull run and the increase in the number of campaigns, it seems that this trend has slowly disappeared over the years, I can only say that before there were many more campaigns and projects that were advertised on the forum. Mixers have of course raised the matter to a higher level when it comes to pay rates, but even if you get $100 a week it's not bad if you already write on the forum - in some countries it's a lot of money, in others it's good as extra income.

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The market condition has nothing to do with signature campaigns; the most stable campaigns are still here, bull run or bear run,, and there was a time that we had a lot of campaigns and it was bear season.
Its the competition that drives platforms to advertise and continue to advertise. New casinos are coming up and they need platforms to advertise.
And there are casinos that want to keep up their presence, so they return to launch a campaign, and there are casinos that reached their target, so they paused their campaign; its not really on the market condition, but the competition.

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The classic era when there have been a bunch of signature campaigns and bounties was during the ICO days. I can remember that there's a lot of them left and right but I don't think that we'll be back in that era even there will be more bull runs to come. The traditional marketing that these projects, casinos, exchanges and other kinds of projects trying to advertise with the niche that they want to will want to spend the maximum exposure that they'll get and that's mostly with social media. As time passes by, there will be lesser campaigns in the forum and those that have stayed in the long term are likely to stay unless they change their approach with the marketing or they have cut the budget. One impact that hit the campaigns was with the banning of the mixers advertising here.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on October 17, 2024, 05:55:37 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on October 16, 2024, 02:37:45 AM

You're missing the point. If you just take a moment to look, you'll see that campaigns in the past had way more participants compared to now, even if the number of campaigns seems the same. I know this because I've been actively keeping an eye on opportunities.

There are less spots which means managers need to be more selective in who they are letting in IMO. The more reputable members of the forum will have better chances of being accepted vs those that just spam the discussion boards and have been for years. Not saying that is you as I have not looked into your post history, just saying that companies need users representing who are not just the normal discussion boards spammers.

Can't deny it, that’s just how it is. When demand is low but there’s a lot of supply, campaign managers will definitely go for the best posters, leaving the regular ones behind. Reputation plays a big part too, which makes it challenging because users have to build their name to get noticed. That’s just how things work sometimes. I’ve wondered too if reputation gets prioritized over posting style, but in the end, it all depends on the managers and their way of selecting users.

Quote from: Darker45 on October 17, 2024, 09:23:26 PM

The competition is tight, being inactive is certainly a big disadvantage.

I could proved that, Grin

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I guess it's the same status. The number of campaigns here fluctuate. Sometimes there's more, sometimes there's less. But it's certainly a big disadvantage that mixers aren't anymore allowed. We could easily have more than 3 running mixer signature campaigns right now which could hire even more than 30 users. That's, therefore, a significant loss. Ever since they're gone, signature campaign is almost solely supported by gambling alone.

The competition is tight, being inactive is certainly a big disadvantage.

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I doubt if it will, during bull season most altcoin projects tends to emerge and from the look of things, it's like most of them will also try to emerge this time around and what might be more plenty on the forum is bounties and not signature campaign. It was after mixer got banned on the forum that signature campaign reducedreduced and since then, there have not been much new campaign of other companies apart from just a few casinos.

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Quote from: xLays on October 17, 2024, 11:18:14 AM

The advantage of running ads here on btt, like a signature campaign, is that you can be sure that your reach is truly crypto-related. Unlike on Facebook, you don't know what algorithm Facebook uses when it comes to ad distribution.

There are other advantages too, facebook for example is known to have so many fake and scam ads in their platform, so people who know this would be sceptical of your ads if they are on facebook. Also in this forum, you can be sure to get unbiased feedback about your service from your discussion thread, this can help the service to improve in many ways possible and become better in the end.

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For me the bull run has nothing to do with having an increase of signature campaign here on btt. Only big companies or those with a budget will consider running a signature campaign here on btt. So if I have less budget I'll consider running ads in Facebook or X. Let's say signature campaign has $1000 budget per week; this $1000 can reach a lot of people on Facebook ads or Google ads. The advantage of running ads here on btt, like a signature campaign, is that you can be sure that your reach is truly crypto-related. Unlike on Facebook, you don't know what algorithm Facebook uses when it comes to ad distribution.

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Quote from: Natalim on October 17, 2024, 09:51:16 AM

This is definitely a big factor in increasing the number of signature campaigns on the forum. With more members aiming to become campaign managers, there’s a bigger chance that the message will reach potential companies looking to join. I’m sure there are plenty of casinos out there, it’s a billion-dollar industry, after all--and seeing big names like Stake.com advertising here through signatures could easily convince them to try as well.

Sometime I do wondering how are the campaign managers promote their services, commenting on ANN thread and DM the casino representative are nothing new. But, I was thinking like are they contact every casinos from email? or have a relation with other people who're working in the casinos, so they can offer the service directly.

Usually in marketing there's a target that need to be achieved, I also wondering what the promise that the managers offer to the representative.

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Quote from: coin-investor on October 17, 2024, 09:24:38 AM

All I know is that campaign managers keep looking for companies to advertise their products and services here, and about your chances to get in a campaign, your chances are good if you are known to be a good poster and you continue to be active even if you're not part of a campaign.

This is definitely a big factor in increasing the number of signature campaigns on the forum. With more members aiming to become campaign managers, there’s a bigger chance that the message will reach potential companies looking to join. I’m sure there are plenty of casinos out there, it’s a billion-dollar industry, after all--and seeing big names like Stake.com advertising here through signatures could easily convince them to try as well.

However, a lot depends on how well the campaign manager can convince these companies. I’ve noticed some signature campaigns only last about 4 weeks before stopping to evaluate, and many of them don’t come back. So, budget-wise, companies are likely cautious, especially if they’re not too aggressive with marketing or are quick to judge the results of the campaign.

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Quote from: Sanitough on October 15, 2024, 10:36:39 PM

Just recently I noticed that signature campaigns are getting fewer, right? I see a lot of participants who used to be super active, but now they’re out of campaigns.

I don't think the market condition will affect how a company will promote their products and services. Companies will keep looking for platforms to advertise their products and services. Campaigns come and go as long as Bitcointalk is a trusted platform and a good place for cryptocurrency-related companies to promote their products. We will never run out of campaigns.

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So, based on your experience or what you've seen, do you think more companies will start launching campaigns? And will people like me, who’ve been inactive for a bit, have a better shot at getting back in?

All I know is that campaign managers keep looking for companies to advertise their products and services here, and about your chances to get in a campaign, your chances are good if you are known to be a good poster and you continue to be active even if you're not part of a campaign.

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Quote from: Sanitough on October 15, 2024, 10:36:39 PM

So, based on your experience or what you've seen, do you think more companies will start launching campaigns? And will people like me, who’ve been inactive for a bit, have a better shot at getting back in?

It’s not about the market trend that makes signature campaign here becomes fewer. The ban of mixer that contributes to the huge volume of active signature campaigns is the main reason why there’s only fee active signature campaign right now.

Even before mixer companies is always the main source for signature campaigns aside from the casino.

I think the market sentiment will not gonna boost much the number of campaigns here compared before.

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The number of signature campaigns steadily fluctuates between 15 and 20, I figured. One time, I saw it go as low as around 10, many years ago. But that's about it.

It's not like the number of campaigns are going to double just because there was a Bitcoin bull rally. Nothing of that sort happened in 2021 either.

As a campaign closes, another one takes its place.

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Quote from: Sanitough on October 15, 2024, 10:36:39 PM

Just recently I noticed that signature campaigns are getting fewer, right? I see a lot of participants who used to be super active, but now they’re out of campaigns. I’ve also been out for a few months, trying to stay active now, hoping to land a spot again soon. With the market getting bullish lately, and all this talk about possibly breaking the ATH, I’m really wondering…

So, based on your experience or what you've seen, do you think more companies will start launching campaigns? And will people like me, who’ve been inactive for a bit, have a better shot at getting back in?

No it won't since companies decision to run a signature campaign is not based on bull run or not. They provably launch their campaigns if they need exposure from this forum. Also we cannot compare each month result since maybe its just a coincidence that we have more campaigns now compare before since everything is random decision by company owners.

But provably there's instances that companies will hold their launching when they see a big pump happen since for sure they don't want to deal with more volume to transfer. But we don't know overall about this since provably the campaign managers who can give accurate figures or answer towards campaign launching towards that market condition.

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Quote from: Sanitough on October 16, 2024, 02:37:45 AM

You're missing the point. If you just take a moment to look, you'll see that campaigns in the past had way more participants compared to now, even if the number of campaigns seems the same. I know this because I've been actively keeping an eye on opportunities.

There are less spots which means managers need to be more selective in who they are letting in IMO. The more reputable members of the forum will have better chances of being accepted vs those that just spam the discussion boards and have been for years. Not saying that is you as I have not looked into your post history, just saying that companies need users representing who are not just the normal discussion boards spammers.

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Quote from: examplens on October 16, 2024, 05:32:08 AM

The problem with reduced activity on the forum, and therefore a slightly lower interest of companies to promote themselves through signature campaigns, was caused by the Bitcoitnalk forum itself.

Correct. Theymos disabled ads. Theymos forbid the promotion of mixer campaigns. Theymos has done nothing to make the forum more user-friendly for mobile users. I guess the hundreds of millions (or is it billions?) dollars worth of BTC isn't enough of a budget to make improvements to Bitcointalk.

Quote from: shield132 on October 16, 2024, 07:03:24 AM

I think that we should expect increased web traffic during bull run because that's time when media promotes Bitcoin and that's the moment when people google Bitcoin and get Bitcointalk in search suggestions. This should be a motivator for companies to run a signature campaign but from my experience, the problem for them is that during bull run, there are frequently sharp rises and falls, which makes it hard for them to manage the budget for advertising because for example, if they paid 0.003 BTC on Monday but the net day price went up to 30%, they don't like it.

Bitcoin being volatile is nothing new. It's part of the game. Bitcoin was more volatile in the past, but it didn't prevent companies from running signature campaigns on the forum or users from participating in them.

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Quote from: Sanitough on October 15, 2024, 10:36:39 PM

So, based on your experience r what you've seen, do you think more companies will start launching campaigns? And will people like me, who’ve been inactive for a bit, have a better shot at getting back in?

Companies do not just come here and launch a campaign; the truth is, the campaign managers are the ones responsible for convincing these companies to launch a campaign to gain leads and brand themselves here because of the data they presented.
And our jobs as a community are to make this forum attractive to companies by engaging and having great discussions about the Cryptocurrency industries, Bull run or bear, it doesn't matter as long as everyone here is making this forum great and companies are convinced that this is a good place to brand their products or services.

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I don't think a bull run will bring more campaigns to the forum, at least not significantly. We will surely get new members coming in here to ask questions because of fomo, but i don't know if it will attract services to come here and advertise, but we would see. Signature campaigns are not going to go away completely in the forum, bitcointalk is still a great place for crypto services to advertise, so they will still use it for as long as it is available to them.

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Quote from: examplens on October 16, 2024, 05:32:08 AM

The problem with reduced activity on the forum, and therefore a slightly lower interest of companies to promote themselves through signature campaigns, was caused by the Bitcoitnalk forum itself.
Previously, this forum was one of the few places that dealt more deeply with crypto and one of the few promotion places. That promotion was good enough for crypto to take a serious place on many other platforms, so the result is that crypto-related people are not limited to this place only.

Bitcointalk is still one of the most relevant places for discussions about Bitcoin and crypto, the problem is more the lack of new quality projects.

I remember having a wider variety of signature campaigns back in 2017, which was basically my first major attempt at being active on the forum. New ones would emerge every single week, with payouts ranging from low for less experienced and newer users to extremely high (see Chipmixer), but this seems to have changed. What do you think is the most significant reason for the reduced activity? From how I see things, the mixer ban didn't help, as it shut down the most prestige campaign, along with a few others, but it has to be something else as well.

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I think we need to have more quality, not quantity of campaigns, but ''bull run'' probably won't change things significantly.
It is better to have less campaigns with quality members, than many campaigns with bunch of low quality posts.
Maybe we should all try to improve first if we want to see positive changes in forum.

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No, I don't expect big changes. Maybe several new campaigns will appear, but difficult to expect that we will get many new campaigns. Majority of campaigns that we have now is about gambling. Mixers isn't allowed here anymore, while other kind of services choose to advertise in other areas. Like now, I watch basketball on TV and see ads oof crypto trading platform on LED boards. I never saw them advertising on Bitcointalk.
Like said above, Bitcointalk traffic is declining, and I would say that audience here isn't same as it was 5 years ago.

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Quote from: Sanitough on October 15, 2024, 10:36:39 PM

Just recently I noticed that signature campaigns are getting fewer, right? I see a lot of participants who used to be super active, but now they’re out of campaigns. I’ve also been out for a few months, trying to stay active now, hoping to land a spot again soon. With the market getting bullish lately, and all this talk about possibly breaking the ATH, I’m really wondering…

So, based on your experience or what you've seen, do you think more companies will start launching campaigns? And will people like me, who’ve been inactive for a bit, have a better shot at getting back in?

The bull run has never been a distinctive criteria guaranteeing the launching of new signature campaigns on the forum, but it's only just that when there is a rise in the price of Bitcoin, most projects which had lots of savings in Bitcoin are likely to have excess profits to run little awareness such as a signature campaign or giveaway. But Moreover, a signature campaign just got launched today (i.e LuckyDiamond.io) by Little Mouse, which is likely a good sign we might see more signature campaigns come in as the price of Bitcoin continues to rise. However, it's not a guarantee.

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Quote from: examplens on October 16, 2024, 05:32:08 AM

The problem with reduced activity on the forum, and therefore a slightly lower interest of companies to promote themselves through signature campaigns, was caused by the Bitcoitnalk forum itself.
Previously, this forum was one of the few places that dealt more deeply with crypto and one of the few promotion places. That promotion was good enough for crypto to take a serious place on many other platforms, so the result is that crypto-related people are not limited to this place only.

Maybe it's because people are more educated about Bitcoin and crypto in general, so there’s less traffic compared to before. Back in the day when altcoins were still popular, and bounty campaigns were full of scammy projects, people were really interested in investing. That created a lot of opportunities for signature campaigns too. I’m talking about the years up until 2018, but slowly, due to the high percentage of scams in altcoins, people started leaving the forum. Yet, the traffic was still big at that time. Then the mixers disappeared, and now most campaigns are in gambling, so it really reduced. We’re no longer in the early stages—people have more places to learn, and this forum is just one of many now.

However, when it comes to signature campaigns, I think they just come and go, like most of them. In fact, as of today, there’s a new campaign run by LM that’s looking for 8 hero members to join, and of course, it’s for gambling again. I saw that OP is already applying.

Quote from: examplens on October 16, 2024, 05:32:08 AM

Bitcointalk is still one of the most relevant places for discussions about Bitcoin and crypto, the problem is more the lack of new quality projects.

No doubt, Bitcointalk is still the best when it comes to that (maybe a little bias here, but it’s true)... But what do you mean by the lack of new quality projects? What projects exactly? Sorry, I didn’t catch that.

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Quote from: Sanitough on October 15, 2024, 10:36:39 PM

Just recently I noticed that signature campaigns are getting fewer, right? I see a lot of participants who used to be super active, but now they’re out of campaigns. I’ve also been out for a few months, trying to stay active now, hoping to land a spot again soon. With the market getting bullish lately, and all this talk about possibly breaking the ATH, I’m really wondering…

So, based on your experience or what you've seen, do you think more companies will start launching campaigns? And will people like me, who’ve been inactive for a bit, have a better shot at getting back in?

I think that we should expect increased web traffic during bull run because that's time when media promotes Bitcoin and that's the moment when people google Bitcoin and get Bitcointalk in search suggestions. This should be a motivator for companies to run a signature campaign but from my experience, the problem for them is that during bull run, there are frequently sharp rises and falls, which makes it hard for them to manage the budget for advertising because for example, if they paid 0.003 BTC on Monday but the net day price went up to 30%, they don't like it.

Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on October 16, 2024, 02:52:13 AM

Signature campaigns are more about prestige nowadays than advertising.

Besides prestige, it still does its job. Slowly it brings traffic to websites, and increases brand awareness and identity. That matters a lot, that's a win psychologically and it converts into success.

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The problem with reduced activity on the forum, and therefore a slightly lower interest of companies to promote themselves through signature campaigns, was caused by the Bitcoitnalk forum itself.
Previously, this forum was one of the few places that dealt more deeply with crypto and one of the few promotion places. That promotion was good enough for crypto to take a serious place on many other platforms, so the result is that crypto-related people are not limited to this place only.

Bitcointalk is still one of the most relevant places for discussions about Bitcoin and crypto, the problem is more the lack of new quality projects.

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Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on October 16, 2024, 02:52:13 AM

Unfortunately, reality is that this place isn't providing the same service it used to. A lot less traffic, less people genuinely interested in Bitcoin (or at least, interested to talk about it), and less services allowed to be advertised. (Not just mixers, this forum used to allow advertisements in the top of every thread.)

Signature campaigns are more about prestige nowadays than advertising.

I remember back in the day, exchanges loved advertising on the forum, but now I only see one exchange running a campaign. If you recall, there was Yobit (which brought a lot of spam) and Livecoin, which eventually turned out to be a scam. Those are the ones I remember, but there were definitely more before, and now they're gone. It’s true that most advertisers today are from the gambling business, and because of that, even those who don’t usually gamble are learning just to relate to what they’re promoting.

I brought this up because, during a bull run, people are generally more eager to invest, or even gamble, since bull runs mean there’s a lot of money to be made by investors. So, if that’s the case, it’s probably the best time to advertise, whether you’re running a casino, an exchange, or any other legal service.

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Unfortunately, reality is that this place isn't providing the same service it used to. A lot less traffic, less people genuinely interested in Bitcoin (or at least, interested to talk about it), and less services allowed to be advertised. (Not just mixers, this forum used to allow advertisements in the top of every thread.)

Signature campaigns are more about prestige nowadays than advertising.

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Regardless of bull or bear market, I don't think much will change. The fact is that the newer generations aren't big fans of discussion forums. This isn't just a Bitcointalk problem. It's an industry-wide phenomena. They are not going to spend hours looking at a white and light-blue background and reading various opinions from unknown people if they can get what they need by watching a YouTube video or use faster communication channels like social media.

Unless something changes and people learn to appreciate discussion forums again, I don't expect much to change in terms of traffic and increase in advertisement potential of Bitcointalk.

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Quote from: Sanitough on October 15, 2024, 10:36:39 PM

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So, based on your experience or what you've seen, do you think more companies will start launching campaigns? And will people like me, who’ve been inactive for a bit, have a better shot at getting back in?

With this thread that you created, it's looking obvious that you're just here if you have on a paid signature campaign. If you're not, you aren't active at all. I mean don't get me wrong because there might be a reason why you became inactive, but to create a thread like this, and this is what we will be reading?

I've been active but not super active, and there's a difference between inactive and active. This thread isn't about me being active, if you understand the title. I was just asking if you’ve noticed any correlation between the increase in signature campaigns during a bull run.

If you're judging me, that's on you, but no one creates a thread just to be criticized, at least not me.

It also seems like you're accusing me of only being active when I have a paid signature campaign, but that's not true. I don't have a campaign now, yet I've been active these past few days. Just because I'm not posting a lot doesn’t mean I'm inactive, especially since this forum offers more to read than to post if you get what I mean. Good for you if you keep the same activity level with or without a signature, but I’ll tell you this: the majority of users, including myself, are less active when they're not in a signature. If you can prove me wrong, then I'll be inactive for you.

Quote from: LogitechMouse on October 16, 2024, 01:04:05 AM

Try to stay active first like what they've said. Being out for a few months (for some reasons) will decrease your chances of being accepted on a campaign because you know what the campaign manager needs, right? Wink

As for the number of campaigns, I don't see that much of a change as well. As for your final question, you will always have a shot to get back in AS LONG AS you're active, and now that you're back (hoping), I assume that you will be active again.

You're missing the point. If you just take a moment to look, you'll see that campaigns in the past had way more participants compared to now, even if the number of campaigns seems the same. I know this because I've been actively keeping an eye on opportunities.

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There is a decrease in the payout rate, but the real problem is that most of the campaigns are gambling campaigns, there are rarely new campaigns for other projects or even advertisements for altcoins, which means that if gambling campaigns are banned in the future, paid signature campaigns on the forum will be rare.

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Quote from: Sanitough on October 15, 2024, 10:36:39 PM

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So, based on your experience or what you've seen, do you think more companies will start launching campaigns? And will people like me, who’ve been inactive for a bit, have a better shot at getting back in?

With this thread that you created, it's looking obvious that you're just here if you have on a paid signature campaign. If you're not, you aren't active at all. I mean don't get me wrong because there might be a reason why you became inactive, but to create a thread like this, and this is what we will be reading?

Try to stay active first like what they've said. Being out for a few months (for some reasons) will decrease your chances of being accepted on a campaign because you know what the campaign manager needs, right? Wink

As for the number of campaigns, I don't see that much of a change as well. As for your final question, you will always have a shot to get back in AS LONG AS you're active, and now that you're back (hoping), I assume that you will be active again.

Quote from: Sanitough on October 15, 2024, 11:45:57 PM

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Right now, most campaigns only have a handful of participants, so I think we really need more campaigns to catch up and give others looking for a slot some chances.

Well, it's up to the business owners if they want to launch a signature campaign here or not.

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Quote from: Apocollapse on October 15, 2024, 11:13:22 PM

On November 2021, there were 17 campaigns (2 mixer campaigns), so it doesn't really change.

With the data you showed, things might seem unchanged, but losing two mixer campaigns that employed a lot of users is definitely a big deal. Plus, when a signature campaign like BestChange, which had tons of participants, stops running, that’s another hit. Right now, most campaigns only have a handful of participants, so I think we really need more campaigns to catch up and give others looking for a slot some chances.

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Inactivity reduces your chances of been accepted to a campaign.
The better Bitcoin performs and it gains fame the higher likelihood a firm would want to eat and get something from the increase
Especially when such increase brings about an higher interest and traffic to the forum.
And also I think they have increased since September compared to subsequent month.
Okay @Apocollapse has shown the difference.

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Nope, two months ago there were only 16 campaigns, but now we have 18 active campaigns (Trustdice and Godex are on hold now), technically there are more campaigns now.

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On November 2021, there were 17 campaigns (2 mixer campaigns), so it doesn't really change.

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For me, the rise of Bitcoin price not really attract companies to run signature campaigns because most people choose to discuss on Twitter instead of this forum. The most important thing is to have traffic, however the traffic are getting lower and lower.

This thread should be moved to Service Discussion.

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Just recently I noticed that signature campaigns are getting fewer, right? I see a lot of participants who used to be super active, but now they’re out of campaigns. I’ve also been out for a few months, trying to stay active now, hoping to land a spot again soon. With the market getting bullish lately, and all this talk about possibly breaking the ATH, I’m really wondering…

So, based on your experience or what you've seen, do you think more companies will start launching campaigns? And will people like me, who’ve been inactive for a bit, have a better shot at getting back in?

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