Topic: Will we ever have a succesfull video game level experience? (Read 719 times)

I think I didn't specify what point I was trying to make well enough in the OP. Because on one hand we have gambling element on many mainstream games already.

I was wondering why casinos aren't delwing into gsmkng but then again maybe they don't want to make it too obvious most probably otherwise gsmkng might get s crackdown like casinos. So they try to keep it separate. This is what I think makes most sense. Anyway, time to lock this thread I guess.

The video game industry itself is facing a major crisis right now, with major studios closing down, games which cost hundreds of millions failing in just a few weeks and the production costs of AAA games exploding out of control and taking years to develop, if I was a casino owner I would have no incentive to change my games at all, as they are relatively cheap to develop and the profits they can generate are massive as well, if anything the video game industry is copying the gambling industry by adding loot boxes and other options that are nothing more but a form of gambling.

Actually, what I think about this is, When it come to the video games it will have more graphics and more graphics need more size and as well the expenses and if we want the games in casino like the video games like counter strike, Warface, Dota2 and the others there will be cost in millions of dollar in back to the one games and if I talking about the size of games it will be much harder to operate those games  specially when a casino will have multiple games of these types.
And talking about the investing lots of fund on the streaming platform, it is for the marketing not developing their casinos site. If they invest tons of fund in only developing then how will they do the marketing.

Gambling games are not heavy games that will require any device of your ikonconfiguration to play.  The games are fully loaded within their website so you can enjoy them on any device.  But with any good quality device you can enjoy high color interface but it is not mandatory for gambling.  If you prioritize them over gambling, it means you are taking gambling seriously and making it more of a career.  Which is completely wrong decision.  Every website is developed by the developers in such a way that the websites load equally automatically for all devices.  So a good device is never mandatory to enjoy gambling.

I think that it doesn't work like that and they miss many opportunities. Take a film industry for example. They think they are all smart and clever, put millions of dollars in stupid movies and then feel surprised when movie doesn't sell as expected.
I was watching Sam Raimi's Spider-Man yesterday, it was a masterpiece trilogy. Spider-Man 3 had a little negative reviews but that wasn't Sam Raimi's fault. Sam Raimi's first and second Spider-Man are considered to be one of the greatest Marvel movies but in Spider-Man 3, they didn't give him enough space and the company forced him to include venom in movie. He did it and finally there were more than enough villains, movie didn't go well. The next 2 versions of the movie didn't do well, the only exception is the last movie and that's because they put Tobey Maguire in it back. Fans always wanted spidey with Tobey, sony could generate millions of dollars but instead did a stupid thing.

There is a demand but casinos do nothing because they are already happy with the current results. Their managers probably don't want an additional headache too. They'll only do it if one competitor decides to do and hugely succeeds with that step.

If they will see the demand, for sure, casinos will try to integrate this kind of game. For now, they may not see this kind of game with high demand. But more than likely, when they see that one casino is earning good money out of it, they will surely follow the path and compete with the trend. I believe, the tech is evolving and sooner or later, we will see this tech in most casinos or bookies. Time is the factor here. If they will find out that this is another profitable venture, they will for sure, explore this aspect of gaming.

To be frank, I find it very strange. While I don't like NFTs, I have to admit that they can be very interesting and profitable thing in games like Fortnite and World Of Warcraft.
I think that the reason why casinos don't invest into developing a similar video game is that slots are already enough to fulfill their requirements. As you said, slots are easy and repetitive, that's what attracts an average player, that what brings casino the most customers and the sum of all of these is the reason why they not do something innovative.

This would be very interesting and would obviously reach a really different audience, it would be closer to what NFT games were, only not with theft ahead through smart contracts , I would like it because obviously it is something that is out of the ordinary and just the fact of Developing something different ,  Something different is Already something that attracts attention and causes, above all, curiosity, a casino that does something like this puts it on an interesting level , because even though it is not a casino that is always in first place, it could position itself higher, so it is not bad.

Typically, video gamers would love an integration of winning opportunities from their gaming skills. Which would add fun and life to the peer to peer bet they engage in game houses. An attribute that may have helped the growth of video gamers, but if the casinos welcome the whooping amount of video game players to generate money online, the combo would fetch billions of people into gambling. But not all gamblers would go with game choices built that way. And it'll be greatly addictive, because of the story lines and effects that makes it captivating.

Sometimes I think that in the gaming world the behavior and actions that occur don't make sense to me, I often see those who play zombie machete games selling accounts for tens of dollars, that's only high level accounts, Actually, if you think about it, there is no benefit in buying this game account, but that is a human hobby that is sometimes carried out beyond the limits of normal human thinking.

Like what happened was the sale of the most expensive item, Skin M4A4 Howl and several skins, virtual, items with fantastic sales figures, if you look at it there is no profit for the buyer, who knows what happened and if you look at it, you bought it for millions of dollars, you don't understand what's in it. the game so the selling priceoutstanding.

Because I don't play games like the ones in the OP link, so I don't have the experience to be a successful person in sales, because no one wants to buy sports betting, slots, dice, poker, let alone millions of dollars, even $1 won't be bought.

I knew about Mir4 but never knew about Mir2 I stopped following WeMade after I sold my account in Mir4 which includes everything in my inventory and I feel great afterwards.

Back to the topic. Yes, slots are repetitive games and this is one of the reasons why I cannot stick with one game. The good part is, that there are so many slots developers/providers now, which means you have options to switch and maybe find your favorite slot game.
About online casinos trying to support or develop their own video game, I think they are also taking a risk on this jump. I mean, there are a lot of MMORPGs with injected cryptocurrencies that were made but never hit the trend and it's because they have to find what the investors like. It doesn't matter if they are small investors who pay $2 - $10 per month, as long as they stay in the game and keep on playing, money will come in.
What I want to see is not a pyramid scheme like Axie, but more like a gaming platform that can still make money without relying on new player's sign-up payments.

Even in casual games theres a shops which players can buy items and skins to their character to improve the gameplay or just casual aesthetic but the case here does the casino will benefit on it most of the game just received money through the transaction fees and and also the license allowing the player to play the game so i guess its not much profitable on their side instead makes a game like slots for their casino which has a higher chance of earnings than developing a game that just have a small return. Just my cents.

No matter any video game that is being added, it is what it is, it can still become boring too, losing money is boring for so many gambler who are specifically interested in making profit from gambling. There are so many fun games on the casino and not every game is considered to be boring.

An "actually playable video game" would cost more than $100 million, maybe that's why. It's risky to invest such big money and then have almost nothing in return if by some reason gamblers will prefer a much simpler games they have accustomed to. Actually it's hard to predict what gamblers can like.

A game is the wagering or wagering of something of value with the awareness of risk and the hope of profit on the outcome of a contest or an uncertain event, the outcome of which may be determined by chance or accident or may have an unexpected outcome for some reason. A casino is designed with a template like placing bets and playing games. Many casinos may not have such a system. Gambling outcomes can be determined by chance alone. Some of the rules by which gambling is played sometimes serve to confuse the relationship between the elements of the game, which depend on skill and chance, so that some players may be able to manipulate the game to serve their own interests.

Why do video game companies worth billions today? People love playing games around yhd world and they will pay any amount to buy a good game, but it comes with huge risks and I am not sure if online casinos are up for it.

1. You have to hire professionals, game builders and the money isn't comparable to those working in the casino.
2. it requires millions to build a good game, even if it is a mobile game, imagine doing all this maybe through funding from third parties and the game still floop, this is highly possible as I know so many vide game companies that already folded up.
3. Casinos make money off predictions, this is one of the easiest way to make money, by selling people fantasy, while the casino have the highest chances of winning.

Take your eye off this idea, it is never going to be possible, running a casino and running a gaming company are both too different.

I am getting that "microtransaction" vibe from this, something that gamers in the early 1990s never came across and pledged in their childhood to be more avid gamers in the future but eventually they moved on from that just because of these payment systems.

Gambling and gaming can be brought together but as soon as you bring money in the midst, the field is taken by gamblers alone and not hardcore gamers. Because gamers already paid for the product they are not paying more unless they get something more and not just risk their luck.

Some developers might do new things and it will be interesting to see how they work out.

The video games are more fun than the normal casino games which is a real truth. It depends on the vide games that is being chosen that is when it may be boring or fun. Trust me there are better video games that the casino can adopt and it will be attract more users into the casino. In as much as the idea is a difficult one to manage unless the casino increase their team members and make enough employment. Which will cost them a lot.

On this aspect I think they are trying to be on the safe sides in the sense that commiting to investing on video games for casinos would cost alot by creating more awareness and open floor for more rooms to gamble. But I want to ask why do you really want a video game for a casino other than the normal slots games and the rest,don't you think the casinos have a better reason for not opening such playable video games yet? I know the fun of playing a physical game but I this contexts it will definitely excalate to another dimension.

These video type games that you mentioned are all recent inventions. Cryptocurrency, airdrops, all made them popular. They appeal in my estimation to a different population or target audience than the traditional online casino. Personally, I don't think the traditional online casino has to adapt their games to these videos type gambling games. If they do so they'll lose a lot of their client base.

This is a very good explanation. OP think about games like Minecraft and Cyberpunk 2077. Minecraft is very easy to develop while Cyberpunk took lots of budget, lots of people in the team and lots of hardwork. Minecraft is so easy game that it can be created by a single person but let me ask you, which game generates the most revenue? Minecraft. It's not always hard work that pays off, it's smart work. Like user said above me, people don't prioritize intensive graphics and interactive features, so that is the reason why they keep games very simple.
I am an UI/UX designer and I always try to make things simple because that's what people like. I myself love fancy design and graphical content but in reality customers don't care about that, they want to everything be as easy and simple as possible.

Most gamblers are not too interested in interaction, especially for people like me, I prefer games that are very simple and instant, interaction online would be a hassle unlike physical casinos.

Yes, you and I may be the same about how gambling games and video games are different.
But the OP may want to experience a different experience due to the limitations of gambling games.
But after all it is everyone's preference and cannot be equalized.

If there is a game developer who embeds gambling games in his game, maybe it can happen.
Like the GTA V Game with the best video game graphics and of course in several places in the GTA V Game world there are casinos that can be played.

It's possible that a casino can develop its own video game. What they need to do is to have another development team that would focus on that part. If it comes to money they have more than enough to cover for the development processes. Also, collaborating with a game provider can be a bit less stressful so what they need to do is to integrate the API and pay the provider regularly.

There lots of video game developers out there who are skilled and are looking for opportunities to showcase their talent.

Because of the time which is the money. Casinos want to make  fast money. Slots  is the lightning way to get money for them while playable video games may last "virtually for ages" to result in profit at the end. ^{(Take Civilization for instance. If it were adopted  by casino the relevant  battles in it could last for weeks with the inconclusive outcome).] (Take Civilization for instance. If it were adopted  by casino the relevant  battles in it could last for weeks with the inconclusive outcome)}.

A casino that uses high-quality video and animation throughout is expected to run a system device that supports the video experience. There is some system devices meant for any gaming, and that's where a gambler can enjoy the full experience of the casino. However, that's going to be bad for the business. In as much as they want huge users on their platform, they have to keep things sleek. With high-quality images and little animation, they can still achieve that video experience. It all falls to the experience and level of the UI designer who was hired.

There are websites you will come across you will notice the kind of animations and futuristic design that is there. It's not about gaming devices its all about the designer using assets that can portray the gaming experience.

If casino thinks they need to develop playable video games to attract more people, they will do that and follow the trend. But as long as they don't see the needs to develop that, they will not do that and maybe they can add that to the next update. When they have so many gambling games on their site and each games can attract many people attentions, they will just focus to promote that so they will have more and more members. Developing a new video games needs more budget and they need to discuss that to the developing division before they can decide and research will be necessary to do.

Because it is very difficult to compete with platforms that develop full-fledged games and develop the P2E direction, this is a whole direction in which there is huge competition. And I am almost sure that for casinos this is not so important, because they already have enough directions to attract players. Moreover, in my opinion, these are different directions, in P2E players often come to play and earn money during the game without investments and the gameplay is also important for them, and in gambling, the player comes with money and tries to increase it, this is a completely different way of thinking.

I think the costs and the manufacturing duration has became an the main factor why the casinos didn't interested to investing their money to build video game because if i am not mistaken to build 1 game they have to spend a lot of money and the developers have to spend approximatelly $100-$500 per hour besides that the duration to make the video game is very long it took up to 4 months so investing at the video game project is very risky for the casinos because to build 1 game it is very expensive and takes a long time to make besides that there is no guarantee the video game which they made will be successfull to attract people to playing and most likely it could be failed project if those video games will be less of popular and lack of players

Probably because it's too expensive. Most online casinos implement pre-made gambling games, that are made by big gambling game providers.
It's cheaper for the casinos to do this, instead of investing money in building a great gambling video game from scratch.
Mixing gambling and gaming hasn't been successful so far, most because most video games are skill-based, while the gambling games are based on luck(maybe except poker). Maybe the gambling games are supposed to be repetitive. This is one of the elements that leads to the gambler getting addicted to the game.
I totally don't care about fancy animations and shiny images, when I'm playing gambling games on an online casino. Yes, it looks good, but I just don't care about it.

You are right. Ordinary users do not have high-performance graphics cards, which is why slot game developers come up with usable solutions for ordinary device, which are mostly simple and easy to use. However, the tendency to get used to high-level games awakens a different feeling among users, which makes playing those games more lively. I think if those who are used to playing slot games can equip their device with high-performance graphics cards, they will be able to keep themselves ahead with various searches in addition to peace of mind. In addition, by playing those slot games, the chances of users winning can increase.

If the casino sees an opportunity to gain a lot of profit of course they will start investing in developing video games as you mentioned, but isn't it the game provider who usually invests in developing a video game? So if there is a game provider that has developed then the casino will add it to their game.
It is rare for a casino to develop their own game usually they only use video games from providers because their development will focus more on promotion.
I have played slots that were developed by the casino and it can be said that they are less interesting in terms of graphics, sound and others, because it is not easy to develop a game.

The main problem that you need to understand is that high-level games require high-end devices to run smoothly. Sadly, not all have high-end devices, and hence, they won’t gamble on these games. The games provider knows this well and hence just does minor changes to the slot games. These types of slot games run on normal browser PCs with low graphics cards. For this also, you see almost all the slots games are similar from one particular provider.

Develop games cost a lot of money and effort, after the games has been launched, there's no guarantee it will be successful.

Casinos are more care with their marketing and reputation since both of them are two biggest reasons why they will successful. In any casino, the games are same, the gameplay are same too. But, the difference is just the brands.

The only constraint I can think of here is money and the consideration of whether or not the investment is worth it. Stakes is indeed spending enough on streaming, but this is different from developing a game from scratch or having to be forced to partner for that same purpose with more capital to part ways with. This will undeniably be a success in my opinion but the angle of business of individual varies. Streaming investment can't be as expensive as that and it's driving so much audience and huge money is being made. Is it not money that would be made in such games too? That may dissuade one from pushing further, especially on something you do not know the outcome yet.

Personally, I had the experience of switching from playing roulette to computer games.

I used computer games to overcome gambling addiction. I succeeded. Personally, I came to the conclusion that gambling and video games are different types of human activity. It is possible that when playing roulette and video games, a person even uses different parts of the brain. In the first case, the main thing is excitement, in the second, orientation on the terrain and the visual component.

Therefore, most likely, the managers of online casinos consciously made this decision. They do not want the visual component to distract players from betting.

I also think that Stake is trying in vain to get that crowd no matter how much they are spending, their level of players online has come down drastically in days where there is no bonuses, so the only days they have a lot of people is today when the Weekly bonus is being distributed at 14:30 European time and whenever the Monthly bonus is waiting to come in, usually in the middle of the month. I think this money can be spent better for example into developing such games, multiplayer games where players are given some edge just like they have done in Poker and their poker is having massive success because of this very multiplayer implementation. Anything that is added to a casino stack of games and that is welcome by the majority of players or is something they are waiting for cannot be anything by success, this depends uniquely in the casino, what they are going to do.

The cost of developing their own game is too expensive while they only need to add 3rd party game providers for their games without that the need to spend big time. Gamblers is already enjoying on the current casino games while casino already have a good profit.

I don’t see the point to develop their own game that work like video game experience while the current games available are cheap and already driving good profit.

Casino is popular to gamblers because of simple games that can give a result instantly.

The first thing is I don't want to fork over a lot of cash to enjoy gambling. I prefer with the existing games in the casino and don't want to test a new game for a while.Those games already satisfied me for playing gambling so I don't need to have a new video games. Besides that, I often playing slot and with so many providers in the casino, that will not enough for me to test all of them. But the other casino like Stake maybe can investing a ton of money on a game streaming but still, I don't want to try it now. I think to enjoy that game, we must use a specific tool that support that game and usually the price is expensive so I need to wait until the price is cheap.

Well if it’s just spending money, there are already many video games like that. Almost all video games allow you to spend money some require you even. Whether it’s to level up or just purchase a tool, you’re spending money on the video game.

But with crypto, gamefi, is more associated to earning money which has not been very explored before in these other video games. Most of the time these video games people spend on are just for entertainment and not played to earn unlike gamefi video games.

I am guessing it would cost a lot and could affect the performance of the overall casino. They have games and betting events that a platform can run slow sometimes I can’t imagine how it would work with an actual playable video games. All the factors to run the game might be too much to put in one platform where there are also other games that operate.

You are right mate, I think it's better the way it is, so that if one is on  the casino, they will know that they are to wager some money, while video game is just extremely for fun. OP speak of how boring some of the games already become but didn't also realized that even if the video games he wants is being added, he can still get boring after some year. That's why I said it's better the way it is.

In fact, many videogames can be monetized, either via streaming, selling items, etc. but I personally wouldn't encourage a friend to try to make money that way (although he/she will eventually try if that's what he/she wants).

But this topic is more about some kind of in-game gambling instead, or games in online casinos more exciting than simple slots. And I'd like to present the question the other way round: instead of including video games in online casinos, I think that the future trend will be to increase the presence of casinos in videogames, metaverses, etc.

I remember that gambling machines were everywhere in Second Life, and it was more than 15 years ago, so the potential of creating new things in this field is huge, with full lands dedicated to virtual casinos, if the renewed interest in the metaverse finally kicks in.

The best, as they say, will always be the enemy of the good. Why should a casino improve something that already brings them good money? But if we talk about video games, I would agree with you very much. Watching my husband spend hours playing video games, I just feel sorry for the time he wastes. But if these games could be monetized, I would probably force him to play even more.

Technically, making a gambling game at the level of video games is most likely not very difficult. It seems to me that there is a deep difference in the game mechanics and in the very essence that distinguishes gambling from ordinary games.
This is a mandatory gambling session (round). Psychologically, this corresponds to an increase in emotional tension and then a discharge, either positive or negative.
And the second is the simplicity of the rules and game mechanics. Ordinary video games usually have a plot, which already seems to interfere with the session. In addition, the game mechanics are always more complicated than slots or roulette. These are the reasons, in my opinion, that separate these games.

I think when a game can be used to make money, it's always related to competitive games, which mean not everyone are capable and willing to learn to become master.

While gambling, they have many variety of games from zero to highest difficulty.

Difficult games like poker, blackjack etc are like competitive games.

People who wan to gamble without stress will choose dice, plinko etc that not require any strategy, anyone can play, that's why casino makes more than video games.

Well yeah but casinos generally have so much money these days it might not be a bad idea to develop it to some semi-related branch out.
From a business perspective, with online stuff this is required to survive sometimes.

When PornHub's owner MindGeek was hit with sanctions over their unmoderated content they branched out to the gaming industry! Now they own the biggest NSFW gaming platform and it's doing very well. They have millions of players and probably earn a lot of money this way too. So if a porn site can do it, I'm sure a casino would too. They could even become a publisher and let others do the development while they fund small studios.

It's kinda funny because the opposite has been happening for a while. PC and mobile developers have been utilizing lootboxes, slots with tokens instead of cash and many luck based elements to engage players and keep them hooked while they spend more and more money. Think of Monopoly Go, Coin Master, Zynga's games like Poker, CS:GO's lootboxes and more. So why won't big casinos develop a game with a luck-based element also?

If casinos start developing addicting video games that makes them video game devs not casino games anymore, video games are called video games for a reason, they have their hardware, a home where you can run them, casino games don't have that, most casino games are runable through Java in browsers, but video games can only be run on hardware based on what is been used to built the game, for example Unreal Engine 5.

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Traditionally, Roulette and Card games are one of the simplest, there is no need to for engine to run, availbe offline and online, these are the games that suits online casinos, these games are also calculation based and what you are longing for is games based on character where players need to complete missions and tasks, bro this is no more a casino game.

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If you are looking for something more different than what online casinos are offering right now I guess it is time to start looking into blockchain based games, that's where you will find what you are seeking, there are few good ones out already and you can make money off them, you just have to be good at the game.

I think the idea of ​​combining real gambling or sports betting with video games is great in itself, but extremely difficult to successfully implement in practice. And this is actually surprising, although it seems intuitive. That these are very close areas: video games could be better monetized, and gambling or betting games could get a good entertaining video series.
I once studied and analyzed this problem, but I still could not understand the fundamental reasons for such a division. Most likely, the problem here is psychological inertia. Owners of casinos and betting platforms on one hand and video game development companies on the other hand already receive enough income to engage in some additional creativity.

Cryptos and NFTs are revolutionizing both spaces. Okay, now that slots and other casino games are full of splashing animations and game plays, it lacks interactivity and that deep storytelling that defines a true video game experience. Companies like Axie Infinity and Entropia Universe prove highly successful at demonstrating that the world does need a game where in-game purchases, NFT integration, and real-world currency collide. I believe that the gap has yet to be bridged between an entertaining, immersive experience by video games and ordinary game mechanics' simplicity. The game economy blurs the distinction made between fun and satisfaction. Unlike casino games, however, video games are self-controlled. It offers more strategies and involves them for a long time.

The big question is why don't casinos invest all their money in hardcore games? It combines real-world value with the game. It would seem natural, given the amount of money invested in video game microtransactions and NFTs, if casinos could develop games that combine art, strategy, and real-world experiences. Similar to games like Entropia Universe, they were able to attract a whole new audience. I think Stake's investment in streaming is a step in that direction. This shows that they realize that gaming and gambling can be separated. But as you say, creating a true "playable video game" that can engage players while integrating gambling mechanics would be a game changer. The casino already has the resources. They just need to develop experiences that offer the depth and involvement of video games with the excitement of risk/reward in gambling. It is interesting to see how different the rules are. How can changes be made in this direction?



Casino games are deliberately designed to be straightforward. It relies on uncertainty and quick wins. As games using gacha or NFT features become more complex, as you mentioned the main difference lies in their potential for innovation. Gacha games can evolve and offer a variety of mechanics, stories, and experiences. While casino games thrive on keeping it simple in order to focus on the actual gambling.

Casino games is where the lack of distraction needs to be focused. The harder or more difficult the game, the better. This may more risk distracting from that central excitement. That's why I do think you're right saying that there isn't a lot of room for innovation in that space of traditional casino gaming. It all boils down to simplicity there's a reason players don't come for the story or deep mechanics. But come for a fast and flat way to win. On the contrary, games with gacha or NFTs are made to be played for a lot of time. They often utilize such things like obtained resources, progress, or even games themselves. Such mechanics create people's constant desire to play more. which, basically, is philosophically opposite from "Fast withdrawal" of casino games.

What is interesting is how some phenomena that combine gambling with extreme forms of gaming come about. Although straightforward, simulating casino games can be difficult in an environment that resembles more complex video games. But there might be room for random places by accident. There is no way that excitement But you're right, it's a nice balance to strike. Because the more you play the experience. The further you move away from the essence of true satisfaction.

Casino games and games that have NFT elements (or gacha elements really)  are rather different from each other. They both have that sense of simplicity, but casino games are WAY simpler since it's just like basic rock paper scissors with more mechanics imo. Games with gacha elements are different since there's a lot more room for innovation but at the same time it also strangles itself with the way it develops. It's not really fitting to create something like it as a casino game imo.

And to answer you, again, it's because casino games are made to be simple. There's nothing much to innovate more about it imo. In a sense, the allure of gambling is the gamble itself really, while the game is of second importance.

Stake started looking into developing Kick.com when Twitch banned the streamers from streaming Stake. People moved to Dlive and it sucked ass, so Kick was born. They're growing at a massive rate and are not censoring any content except maybe nudity.

I doubt it would be worth the money for sites to try to build a RPG type game. Look at Dragon tales, it was cool for awhile but eventually died off. Pretty cool concept but I think devs/creators lose interest pretty fast. Maybe with a big budget that would change but IDK.

The main issue with those investments and those games you are talking about it would be the high dependence of the result to the level of skill each gambler/player could have at the moment of starting their session. Perhaps you have not noticed it yet, but all videogames have a heavily skill-based system and difficulty curve, the latter is very unique to each genre and game.
When comes to gambling, the experience of each player/gambler cannot vary according to their level of dextery or skill because that would lead the casino to lose money to the most skillful players/gamblers in the long term, and for the casino to start to get unprofitable it would only take a handful of people who could consistently make money off their sessions.
The closest you will get when comes so skill-based games is poker, specially face-to-face poker, since there is an element of strategy and deceit in it.

That is why casinos do not invest money in those games, because it would be a waste of money to them, in the short and long term.

Of lately also developing interest on roulette as I think it's actually good game to play, and I think what makes most game looks so boring is when they're not making any payout or profits from it and they kept playing it. What gamblers are looking after are games they could easily yield an extensive winning unlike from their usual games they plays, and people would also want to explore a very different games but then wouldn't give much priority is winning is rate is very poor that is why people are developing much love for sports betting as it's the only that is fair enough.

That would be no different from gambling, players would still get glued to it and all, but the boring aspect of having to go accomplish levels, would limit the demography of people who participate in such games. Slot graphics are kept almost static to entertain everyone.

Additionally, integrating video games would turn slot to a skill based game, it'll no longer depend on luck, and sooner developers will come up with cheat codes that'll help players not to fail a single mission. Although, I don't expect casinos to build regular type of games, but a lot of gamblers prefer slots the way it plays.

Because its development would cost much more money!

To create a video game that is truly attractive to players, it needs to have a good story, good graphics, very few or no bugs... imagine how many people are needed for this and the final cost of this product. It's a calculation that doesn't add up.

On the other hand, a slot machine game or slot machine requires very little programming and a few graphic screens, it is a quick development.

I may be ignorant, but this is my perception and the reason for your doubt.

I believe that companies that are focused on the gaming universe are the ones who should, perhaps, invest more in this betting segment, because they already have a structure and resources that are better prepared for this.

Games like Axie and Mir4 aren't supposed to belong to gambling category, because people aren't playing the games to risk their money. Rather, they are putting money, time and personal effort to grind on such games aiming surely rewards in the end. It's like they are working to be paid later. Some gambling mechanisms can be introduced inside such games, but just with a minor or secondary role, like when purchasing mysterious chests and opening them for rewards which can vary from common to legendary tiers.

If gambling becomes the main feature of video games, they will lose their purpose, as people won't need to be skilled or efficient anymore, since all they will need is to be lucky. That is actually very unfair and unattractive for most people who enjoy virtual games.

Well I'm not so sure about that because if it was the case people would only care to play provably fair slots since they have a higher RTP and are verified in their fairness.

Instead everyone picks slots by major providers and that's most probably because they have nicer graphics and slick animations.

So I'd say many people actually care about graphics and actually quite a bit. And probably it's the same with any other casino game as people have largely migrated to casinos with better graphics lately etc.

Video games actually have better graphics and are intended for gamers who need more stunning graphics and gameplay.
But when it comes to gambling, high-graphic gameplay is completely unnecessary.

I myself will not even focus on the gaming experience when gambling, because what is more important is how to profit from gambling.

If there is indeed a cooperation between video game makers and online casinos, it may be distinguished between games specifically for gambling with graphics that are indeed specifically for gambling with graphics that do not charge at a better level of play, such as slot games that require a faster response so that there is no need for high graphics.

I love playing games, but I don't already gamble when I play games, It was a different activity with a different Experience.
Playing games to relieve stress, without thinking about profits or anything, But gambling even if it is just as entertainment will definitely have a mind to maintain winnings and what strategies need to be used.

I think the difference lies in the core motivations behind each industry.  Casinos wanna get people hooked and spending.  Their games and environments are designed to keep folks playing and losing money.  But video games at their best want to transport and engage players in a meaningful experience.  Sure, some video games add gambling elements or microtransactions that feel a bit casino-ish.  but plenty of great games focus first on being fun and telling good stories. and  They attract loyal fans looking for adventure, not addicts chasing losses.

Maybe theres a middle ground here.  Perhaps casinos could create some games more focused on enjoyment than addiction.  But that risky, since their business depends on getting people to gamble away money. 

Either way the industries clearly overlap in places.  But their core incentives remain distinct.  One wants to maximize entertainment, the other profits.  Theres creativity in both, but of very different kinds.

I'm not quite sure what you're suggesting. Are you saying to incorporate gambling with real-life money on a video game, or similarly, create a gambling-focused video game? If that's the case, as a former gamer, I find the idea intriguing. However, it's important to keep in mind that you're combining two entirely distinct genres: gaming and gambling. Gamers might not be interested in gambling, and vice versa, gamblers might not be interested in playing a video game. Although it's an intriguing idea, and I always enjoyed games that featured casinos in their gameplay, I don't believe it would have the necessary audience for it to be developed.

I don’t think a casino should develop games just to make people addicted to them and spend their money on them because gambling already does that for them. It’s a different thing, and there is a genre, but maybe a simulator would be OK. I know there are already games like that.

That’s not their expertise, and I don’t think it’s a good idea for them.

This still is a problem and I don't see it coming due to various reasons. For instance, if you're a decent, well earning developer, you don't need to go into gambling business. You can do a lot of money doing soft gambling, the way CS does with chests and keys. There's a lot of money in gaming and you don't have to start a casino.

Why is a casino type of play difficult and unpopular amongst developers? Because it restricts the accessibility as some countries have strict anti-gambling policies. Why would you do that when you can earn money by selling copies of your games in a country where gambling is restricted and earn similar amount of money?
Also, real gambling requires moderators because there's money at risk. This generates additional costs that developers want to avoid.

The fact is there's little overlap between video game studios and gambling companies. Gambling is banned in many jurisdictions so you would instantly shrink your audience or regions that would allow your game. Many video game companies will make money from things like loot drops and skins, which can often involve pay to play style micro transactions. These can be a lot more lucrative and be the main source of income for them. If there were to start mixing in betting they can be banned from countries for a long time and shrink their profit to zero in very lucrative markets.

I think the main point there is that, casinos are design for two main functions which is, offering gambling games for the fun and at the same time, running running the casino to generate profits, unlike that game you mentioned, it main aim is to take money from the m it players and anyone that get lucky could win a few bulk out of the many loses that could have been possibly been incurred in the past.

But like the other guys said, let say the game that you talk about in the last paragraph is highly enjoyable and competitive on a casino, there is nothing stopping other casino to feature such a game on their platform also.

Gambling enthusiasts don't seem to really like games like that, it seems a bit troublesome, gambling is designed to be as simple as possible, but your idea is quite good, because some players will also be interested in it, but it makes the casino a bit of a hassle

If a casino start anything new like having different games, and people are really playing it, you will see the game on other casinos as usual and it would be boring again just like you meant that the existing ones are boring now. But casino games are not boring at all, at least for me. I play roulette most time in casino and not even the slots that are so many and I do not see it boring, unlike normal games that I do not use money to play. I think using money to play the games as gambling is enough to make the game not boring at all.

I played axie infinity, and I want to say that sometimes it was an interesting experience. The game was not easy and I can not say that I played only for the tokens that I was given. However, for the first few months it was quite a good income, and when the tokens of this game were at the bottom, I stopped playing. But definitely axie was the first to combine NFT, luck and an interesting gaming experience, and this is a significant contribution to the development of cryptocurrency games.

They'd leave the development to Stake and until there is no breakthrough to new video games that promise better profit, casinos can just enjoy what works for them. Axie eventually slowdown actually so its success relies on a bull market, it's not their usual business route.

Even if there is a new interactive video game, I still doubt gamblers will be interested in these graphic intense games. The metaverse should really be a game changer but it seems to not happen in our lifetime.

Aren't this video games, such as Grand theft, Minecraft, Fortnite and Resident Evil? Because inasmuch as this is a good idea, and may sound cool, to me, I will say that when it comes to profit/revenue generations, the normal casino games will always do far better as compared to these type of games which aren't repetitive.  Because we all know that the average time frame for every casino games, such as slots, Blackjack and roulette are usually from zero seconds to ninety seconds (i.e 0 - 90seconds), whereby a casino is said to make profit every inter of each 90 seconds when the majority of gamblers who plays a slot game loses, and likewise lose money when the majority of gamblers wins their slot games. Unlike this game which you are proposing which may take longer time to earn, since it is a video game.

So, I think profit potential for casinos might have been the reason why they haven't introduced this technology.

Casinos are still very successful from just normal games that people can gamble on so some of them may not consider trying to go into video games that may be an entirely new market for them. I think the gamblers concern themselves mostly to have satisfactory service on games that are already familiar with and many gamblers are still okay to play on these casinos even though there are no games with close relations to video games that look like reality. This can be why we are not seeing moves showing strong considerations are being made about it.

The difference is there, when you're talking of video games in the likes of slots comparing to crypto games like axie afinity, many differences could be spotted out and this will also have to be more influenced by what we actually want, we can also agree that this will have to do with the location we are and the prevailing games that are occurring there, but at the end, everything may also be tied to what we want or prefer when it comes to gambling and how we could for for it as expected.

Video gaming already has elements of gambling integrated into it for anyone who loves the graphics of video games and enjoys the thrill staking on it adds. For this reason, lots of countries that placed restrictions on gambling usually do so with online video games too.

A casino cannot (or don't have the incentive to) invest heavily into the graphics of the game as they risk marketing themselves as a videogame company. Video game companies run the same risk when integrating options into their gameplay.

people who usually gamble don't prioritise the intensive graphics or interactive features they just want to keep things simple and most focus is on the money part, by keeping the games simple it allows the platform to reach every kind of devices cause it runs online but it will be internet speed demanding if they want to host high graphics in real time.

But it could be seperate niche to attract the gamers if they casinos want to invest on developing a game that could fulfill the gaming experience as well.

If you go in an online casino and try to find the most video game like gambling game, probably you'll end up playing slots.
Slots have nice animations, sometimes even feature very well drawn and animated characters etc.
The issue is that they're very repetitive. So I wouldn't call them a video game.

Now with crypto, there have been many attempts to create actual video games that tie with spending money.
You could call it gambling also. Some notable examples like Axie Infinity and Mir2 have integrated the NFT element with some success.

Other games have had success with in-game cash based purchases for years. See for example:
10 Most Expensive In-Game Items Ever Sold

You'll notice that most of these is Entropia Universe... Maybe you'll enjoy this short documentary-like video about Entropia Universe then: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTPLp5u3iSU
Entropia has largely been compared to gambling, although the publisher denies it. Yet they're quite successful at getting money from their player base. And it's a real game. You're free to interact within the game, although to do anything enjoyable you'd have to fork over a lot of cash.

So my questions is, if casinos see this, why don't they try to invest some money into developing actually playable video games? Stake is investing a ton of money on a game streaming platform for instance, seemingly trying to draw that crowd. Maybe a different casino could draw even more people with a decent game. Don't you think?