Will You Trade AI For Human Creativity?

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Quote from: AltLord on June 21, 2024, 04:41:01 AM

I know there is an age long dichotomy of AI and humans and how the use of AI will phase out many mundane human works. But it is evident that the time for that has not arrived yet.

Hypothetically though, I believe AI can be a very useful tool for businesses particularly startups who can't afford to employ a specialist for every micro aspect of the business. This came to mind when I saw what LinqAI was doing with some specific AI ML algorithm. LinqAI is a crypto project providing AI-powered solutions for businesses. As a developer I believe training AI to specialize in some mundane task will greatly benefit a lot of businesses.

I will however like to hear your thoughts (not ethically but practically) on "if AI can be trained to be creative and if it's creativity can surpass human spontaneity?" and are project like these worth investing in?

I agree with AI being more and more useful for mundane tasks, such as training systems for copywriting in the style needed and many other spheres, however, creativity is different. Of course, AI improves here too, but I don't think it can surpass us for now, because the tech is not yet there and we ourselves feed the AI with what it's capable of. Thus, I do think it's only a matter of time before AI will become advanced even for spheres where humans are irreplaceable.

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Quote from: AltLord on June 21, 2024, 04:41:01 AM

Hypothetically though, I believe AI can be a very useful tool for businesses particularly startups who can't afford to employ a specialist for every micro aspect of the business.

isn't ai more expensive than hiring an artist?

i mean artists are already underpaid and i am not saying they should continue to be underpaid but it seems like it is much cheaper to get an actual artist to do some of your works at least you know it will not create a piece that has some weird and questionable parts

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I will however like to hear your thoughts (not ethically but practically) on "if AI can be trained to be creative and if it's creativity can surpass human spontaneity?" and are project like these worth investing in?

ai can't be creative because at the end of the day it is still humans feeding them what to make and ai can't reach the intricacies of a human's creativity.

maybe in the future ai could be much perfected and we will not see it creating an artwork or a portrait of someone with 11 fingers. but right now, it is very obvious that an artwork is not created by a human if you look at it which is not a good thing for ai tech as it shows how far it is from humans art

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Quote from: Rasa nanas on June 24, 2024, 06:05:02 PM

I think AI cannot beat human creativity and I believe there are many jobs that cannot be replaced by AI. AI creativity is determined by the humans who create it, in other words if you want to increase the creativity of AI you have to increase the creativity of the humans who make it. Is an AI project worth investing in? worthy, because there are many AI projects that have succeeded in hype and success.

You can't be faster than your shadow so in reality AI can not be more advanced than humans that created them. Without the humans that will be innovative to improve on the functionality of AI they'll just remain in the level of how they were programmed to function. Humans are born with natural brains to explore and experiment, never to remain stagnant, as technology is advancing, the human mind will always be ahead. I see AI taking over most of the workforce in the future just like machines in the industrial revolution took over laborers jobs, so humans will always find a way to survive and think ahead of any sofisticated gadgets.

As for any AI projects in the market DYOR and invest the amount that you can afford to loose because the crypto market is volatile.

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AI for business can generate new ideas and develop innovative solutions to creative problems. It can help creators create new types of art and improve the quality of their content. AI is used in a variety of ways to enhance creativity. Humans are using AI to create new products in creative industries. But AI projects with crypto are completely different crypto will take time.

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I think AI cannot beat human creativity and I believe there are many jobs that cannot be replaced by AI. AI creativity is determined by the humans who create it, in other words if you want to increase the creativity of AI you have to increase the creativity of the humans who make it. Is an AI project worth investing in? worthy, because there are many AI projects that have succeeded in hype and success.

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TBH, I am tired with all of these emerging and sudden appearing of many AI projects.
My first question is that, if they're helpful to business. Then just focus with businesses and don't need to include their projects into cryptocurrencies. That will help the businesses for the solutions they bring and not with the crypto that they generate.

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Quote from: X-ray on June 23, 2024, 02:12:23 AM

like basically you can ask AI to recreate mona lisa painting by giving simple prompt, but can it create a painting that's better in term of creativity compared to mona lisa? I doubt it could. I even doubt it even understand what creativity really is by human's value, the AI hasn't reached that level yet.

Yes it could recreate mona lisa but the emotion and depth can not be recreated.

The strokes of the painting itself which represent many emotions and other feelings can only be created by human creativity and not AI. I guess that is where AI lacks. AI is trying too hard to make a perfect artwork but it’s actually the flaws that make an artwork more creative. Humans are flawed which makes it creative.

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But if you use AI to make many aspects of life efficient, sure it has really huge unexplored potential, for example, human requires days to years to create an animation that probably only have duration of 30 seconds, with generative AI model trained to make animation, it could do it within few seconds as long as the computing power is huge enough.

Rather than creativity, AI should only be used for productivity and punctuality.

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I think AI excels in how to make things faster and efficient, the creativity in itself will just depends on the data supplied meaning the creativity will probably just the same as human peak creativity.

like basically you can ask AI to recreate mona lisa painting by giving simple prompt, but can it create a painting that's better in term of creativity compared to mona lisa? I doubt it could. I even doubt it even understand what creativity really is by human's value, the AI hasn't reached that level yet.

But if you use AI to make many aspects of life efficient, sure it has really huge unexplored potential, for example, human requires days to years to create an animation that probably only have duration of 30 seconds, with generative AI model trained to make animation, it could do it within few seconds as long as the computing power is huge enough.

Quote from: AltLord on June 21, 2024, 04:41:01 AM

I will however like to hear your thoughts (not ethically but practically) on "if AI can be trained to be creative and if it's creativity can surpass human spontaneity?" and are project like these worth investing in?

Of course it is worth investing, undeniably AI is the future, its always invest early and become the winner or be doubtful and miss the best opportunity to invest, basically this kind of thing.

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Quote from: AltLord on June 21, 2024, 04:41:01 AM

I know there is an age long dichotomy of AI and humans and how the use of AI will phase out many mundane human works. But it is evident that the time for that has not arrived yet.

Hypothetically though, I believe AI can be a very useful tool for businesses particularly startups who can't afford to employ a specialist for every micro aspect of the business. This came to mind when I saw what LinqAI was doing with some specific AI ML algorithm. LinqAI is a crypto project providing AI-powered solutions for businesses. As a developer I believe training AI to specialize in some mundane task will greatly benefit a lot of businesses.

I will however like to hear your thoughts (not ethically but practically) on "if AI can be trained to be creative and if it's creativity can surpass human spontaneity?" and are project like these worth investing in?

For sure if it's beneficial then people will automatically be attracted to these. We cannot resist AI for too long in the fear of reduction in human Jobs. Ultimately the businesses will adopt AI for lower costs and better results.

We have to be smart to learn and earn through AI not without AI because this world cannot resist it anymore as the hype is getting more and more. So be the one to accept it on time.

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Quote from: R1dwanRz on June 22, 2024, 11:40:26 AM

Quote from: AltLord on June 21, 2024, 04:41:01 AM

I know there is an age long dichotomy of AI and humans and how the use of AI will phase out many mundane human works. But it is evident that the time for that has not arrived yet.

Hypothetically though, I believe AI can be a very useful tool for businesses particularly startups who can't afford to employ a specialist for every micro aspect of the business. This came to mind when I saw what LinqAI was doing with some specific AI ML algorithm. LinqAI is a crypto project providing AI-powered solutions for businesses. As a developer I believe training AI to specialize in some mundane task will greatly benefit a lot of businesses.

I will however like to hear your thoughts (not ethically but practically) on "if AI can be trained to be creative and if it's creativity can surpass human spontaneity?" and are project like these worth investing in?

AI definitely won't replace us all... yet. Look some websites set up Ai support bot, that doesn't even help users. for example, in my country, the online shopping has a AI search system. It was too broken, I searched laptop, it gave me mobiles instead lol.. AI is still baby... But I would definitely see future with it. Bussiness will greatly benefit from this

I looked into LinqAI after your post. I see it's listed on major exchanges such as Bitget already. I also actually checked the charts myself and... well, let's just say it's an interesting entry point. You know the market isn't even good atm but who knows? OpenAI might just release something and pump those numbers up of every AI token lol.

No matter how brilliant AI is, it'll need to be controlled by humans yunno, but for sure AI has helped in terms research, performing tasks for business like you mentioned in linQAI etc but I think there's so much it can do... For the token I noticed some airdrop on the exchange twitter page. You can explore it.

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Yes, AI can be trained to be creative. Isn’t it what we’re seeing today? ChatGPT creating all manner of content from scratch. However, I won’t entirely agree that AI can be more creative or let’s say it’s competitive. We built AI and all it knows is what was told to it. But if an AI was to create or design something, it would do it faster and without assistance (as we humans would need a helping hand). So, it could be more creative but we created it nonetheless.

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Even if many are still skeptical about them, ai are the future and we should learn to live with them and use them. on a practical level, however, I don't think they are yet ready to actively help us in trading, so it will take some more time, for now we There are many valid bots that can help us with this. AI creativity? difficult for this to happen

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AI is not just any trend of a short period, it is a real thing with many bad and good benefits for humans, negative and positive aspects to look at it. The point where an AI can replace a human being brain is still so far. In my opinion, if people could train AI to start their own creativity and invent things, I believe it’s going to be a disaster.
It’s hard to believe that an AI will create things like humans does, out if nothing or from learning to launch or realize something that these AI robots or programs would have complete control on it.

Imagining an AI function like a human brain with much more capacities in remembering and processing things quickly, I would say that AI robots can take control over us and take better decisions. If in any or by any chance that happened, first thing AI does in extermination of human race.

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Quote from: aioc on June 21, 2024, 07:31:55 AM

First and foremost, where all this AI gets its results from queries, it's coming from the human output too. They do not have a mind of their own to produce results;
AI can assist human creativity and imagination, but it's the human judgment that finalizes the works.
There are many industries that are now employing these AI, but we still need humans to monitor these AI on their results.

And that is why this question arises because there will be no more creativity right after the trade-off. When you say employ, does it mean like a person who will be employed for a job? I know AI's are a thing now but I think they mostly exist in the chat services and when it comes to most company works, that are still being done by the humans and yes human supervision is always a must even on something automatic like AI because there might be bugs that can ruin the task.

Quote from: aioc on June 21, 2024, 07:31:55 AM

I don't trust AI because some of its results are outdated and lack imagination and just combine what's on their database.

You already said earlier that what AI shows are based on the human or the ones who programmed it. So if they are good enough, we might also trust the AI but only for some other things and then we must not fully rely on them.

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Quote from: AltLord on June 21, 2024, 04:41:01 AM

I know there is an age long dichotomy of AI and humans and how the use of AI will phase out many mundane human works. But it is evident that the time for that has not arrived yet.

Who are the creator of all of these AIs, are we not the same in charge for these new developments, the main purpose for doing all these was to help make our work easier and not to render human efforts and intellectual of less value, this will only help us achieve having maximum capacity output of work delivery in what we do, at least, those in charge of every new developed use of AI version are the human brains and efforts which we have to always see as more relevant in terms of new developments.

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Quote from: AltLord on June 21, 2024, 04:41:01 AM

I know there is an age long dichotomy of AI and humans and how the use of AI will phase out many mundane human works. But it is evident that the time for that has not arrived yet.

Hypothetically though, I believe AI can be a very useful tool for businesses particularly startups who can't afford to employ a specialist for every micro aspect of the business. This came to mind when I saw what LinqAI was doing with some specific AI ML algorithm. LinqAI is a crypto project providing AI-powered solutions for businesses. As a developer I believe training AI to specialize in some mundane task will greatly benefit a lot of businesses.

I will however like to hear your thoughts (not ethically but practically) on "if AI can be trained to be creative and if it's creativity can surpass human spontaneity?" and are project like these worth investing in?

There is no doubt that AI is becoming more valuable tool for businesses, particularly for start ups that can't afford specialists for every task required to set up business at the initial stage. AI's ability to automate tasks, analyze data and generate insights is beneficial for business, but it raises ethical concerns, as if this evolution continues, it could lead to significant job losses for many people.

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You can't compare the kind of judgement you get from human to what's obtainable with the use of AI. The advantage we know from it use is that it's faster and more accurate with an already programed information that has been verified before but when it comes to solving real life problems, artificial can't beat original intelligence.

There are several technical questions you will ask most AI and they will fumble big time and basically, what ever information you're getting from it is from human in some ways but you can't tell how far the human mind can get to in terms of being creative and providing solutions to real challenges. AI has it advantage and is very useful in the workplace and with it, some of the position we normally would assign to human can be left for it which will go on to reduce cost but that's never to say that you can trade AI for human.

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Quote from: AltLord on June 21, 2024, 04:41:01 AM

(...)I will however like to hear your thoughts (not ethically but practically) on "if AI can be trained to be creative and if it's creativity can surpass human spontaneity?" and are project like these worth investing in?

I simply don't want to talk about creativity in AI, because the ability to process data at speed on analytical data gives us many solutions. But anyway, I'm still curious about whether AI can make a decision that's right for the customer, or simply based on the different options it knows.

Creativity is hard to describe completely because change is always happening, so nothing is set in stone from any one point of view, but the adaptive process I can imagine would be based on a number of criteria standard to consider it as an adaptive development direction. But anyway, we are still using it like many other tools to support our lives. When AI becomes more widely popular, it will probably come with all sorts of problems due to humans using it.

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Quote from: AltLord on June 21, 2024, 04:41:01 AM

I know there is an age long dichotomy of AI and humans and how the use of AI will phase out many mundane human works. But it is evident that the time for that has not arrived yet.

Hypothetically though, I believe AI can be a very useful tool for businesses particularly startups who can't afford to employ a specialist for every micro aspect of the business. This came to mind when I saw what LinqAI was doing with some specific AI ML algorithm. LinqAI is a crypto project providing AI-powered solutions for businesses. As a developer I believe training AI to specialize in some mundane task will greatly benefit a lot of businesses.

I will however like to hear your thoughts (not ethically but practically) on "if AI can be trained to be creative and if it's creativity can surpass human spontaneity?" and are project like these worth investing in?

AI definitely won't replace us all... yet. Look some websites set up Ai support bot, that doesn't even help users. for example, in my country, the online shopping has a AI search system. It was too broken, I searched laptop, it gave me mobiles instead lol.. AI is still baby... But I would definitely see future with it. Bussiness will greatly benefit from this

I looked into LinqAI after your post. I see it's listed on major exchanges such as Bitget already. I also actually checked the charts myself and... well, let's just say it's an interesting entry point. You know the market isn't even good atm but who knows? OpenAI might just release something and pump those numbers up of every AI token lol.

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Quote from: JeffBrad12 on June 21, 2024, 06:39:18 AM

Practically, it's difficult to imagine it happening. AI is being creative with the data given to the database to improve AI's ability to adapt to new situations. I meant that it's difficult to envisage AI being innovative with data stored in its database.
It is difficult for AI's originality to surpass human spontaneity, yet the more data added to the AI's database, the more creative AI becomes.

AI relies on the data in its database; hence, it is impossible for AI to be more creative than the human who created AI. AI is still dependending on human inventiveness, because of it enables AI to adapt to new situations when humans inject their knowledge into the AI's database.

As someone who has been in the creative world for long, it is not really the "talent" of AI that is in question, but more about the fact that it is just doing what humans can do, at a scale, that's it. Imagine it like creating the first assembly line, Henry Ford I believe did that if I am not wrong, did humans not create what they did before that innovation? Of course they did, but it wasn't as quick, now humans make it a lot quicker, all automatic as well, look at any tesla factor for example.

So what AI does, is not really that different from what humans does, it's basically the same, just at bigger numbers and quicker, so it is not an achievement yet, it is not an awe inspiring thing, instead of photoshop, you use midjourney, that's it. If one day it can make something that is better than what any human can do, then we can discuss it.

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Quote from: AltLord on June 21, 2024, 04:41:01 AM

I will however like to hear your thoughts (not ethically but practically) on "if AI can be trained to be creative and if it's creativity can surpass human spontaneity?" and are project like these worth investing in?

First and foremost, where all this AI gets its results from queries, it's coming from the human output too. They do not have a mind of their own to produce results; I don't trust AI because some of its results are outdated and lack imagination and just combine what's on their database.
AI can assist human creativity and imagination, but it's the human judgment that finalizes the works.
There are many industries that are now employing these AI, but we still need humans to monitor these AI on their results.

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Quote from: AltLord on June 21, 2024, 04:41:01 AM

I will however like to hear your thoughts (not ethically but practically) on "if AI can be trained to be creative and if it's creativity can surpass human spontaneity?" and are project like these worth investing in?

Practically, it's difficult to imagine it happening. AI is being creative with the data given to the database to improve AI's ability to adapt to new situations. I meant that it's difficult to envisage AI being innovative with data stored in its database.
It is difficult for AI's originality to surpass human spontaneity, yet the more data added to the AI's database, the more creative AI becomes.

AI relies on the data in its database; hence, it is impossible for AI to be more creative than the human who created AI. AI is still dependending on human inventiveness, because of it enables AI to adapt to new situations when humans inject their knowledge into the AI's database.

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I know there is an age long dichotomy of AI and humans and how the use of AI will phase out many mundane human works. But it is evident that the time for that has not arrived yet.

Hypothetically though, I believe AI can be a very useful tool for businesses particularly startups who can't afford to employ a specialist for every micro aspect of the business. This came to mind when I saw what LinqAI was doing with some specific AI ML algorithm. LinqAI is a crypto project providing AI-powered solutions for businesses. As a developer I believe training AI to specialize in some mundane task will greatly benefit a lot of businesses.

I will however like to hear your thoughts (not ethically but practically) on "if AI can be trained to be creative and if it's creativity can surpass human spontaneity?" and are project like these worth investing in?

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