Windows Update Problem on mining rigs....

BitBustah

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Quote from: simion.suciu84 on May 24, 2018, 02:22:17 AM

Hello,

I have stop the windows update with the method describe bellow

First you have to stop the service. Go to windows (key) +R -> services.msc -> find windows update -> stop servicese -> disable
after you have stop the service press windows key and write cmd -> right click on cmd and press run as administrator -> copy past the text ->
REG DELETE HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate /v SusClientIdValidation /f
REG DELETE HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate /v SusClientId /f
rmdir /s /q c:\windows\softwaredistribution

Best regards

Let's hope this works. Getting fed up with updates.

bit49

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For those who don't want to permanently disable Windows updates, we just published a video on how to roll back the latest forced Spring update here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=rA04pjIXZK4

Hope it helps! There are drawbacks to rolling back Windows updates permanently, in our opinion, and there are often fixes over time. Delaying the update should mean that the next time it tries, the latest update won't be buggy.

simion.suciu84

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Hello,

I have stop the windows update with the method describe bellow

First you have to stop the service. Go to windows (key) +R -> services.msc -> find windows update -> stop servicese -> disable
after you have stop the service press windows key and write cmd -> right click on cmd and press run as administrator -> copy past the text ->
REG DELETE HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate /v SusClientIdValidation /f
REG DELETE HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate /v SusClientId /f
rmdir /s /q c:\windows\softwaredistribution

Best regards

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This works for me...
Windows 10 in various scenarios will turn windows update back if all you do is disable the service.
To disable updates in Windows 10 is go to the Windows update Service property window, disable it, then go to the Log On tab at the top and click This account: and type ".\Guest"(no quotes), clear the password fields and click apply.
You will get a message saying Guest has been enabled to do this, but the hitch is that "Guest" doesn't have permission to do it so Windows update is basically disabled no matter what unless you switch it back which is just as easy.

mo35

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getting rid windows update isnt that hard , but you should also cleanup scheduled tasks not only for windows update but for update orchestration , because retarded M$ will turn all update services back on , also eventually force you to upgrade win10 version to latest via scheduled tasks, which you cant disable even if you are local admin.

trick is rather trivial , use Psexec from https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/pstools , lauch task scheduler via Psexec (psexec -i -d -s mmc taskschd.msc) , take ownership and get rid of Update Orchestration and Windows Update scheduled tasks, then disable WU services.
This will save you from forced version update check and installation and wont turn on windows update services and recreate scheduled tasks.

cvsea

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Use windows 10 build 1703 (however you will be limited to max 8 cards/rig) and set all the gpedit stuff. Zero updates in 1 year+.
Win 10 1709 can't be stopped from updating, at least in my own dealings with it.

crocozino

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well, I'm just using one utulity, the name is dws_Lite
there I just disable windows update and that is all.. it shutdown the windows update service and without it running, windows can't do anything.
I've been using it for more then a year and all is smooth there.. you may google about it..

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Quote from: darkkain on April 29, 2018, 07:53:02 PM

I found a way to keep updates from starting on another website, and so far so good. The service has not been able to start back up since.
-snip-

The very first reply is good enough to disable Windows update.
The problem with the peeps is, they forgot to restart windows (Via start menu, not the hardware restart button) or
they didn't shutdown/restart it before the next scheduled update which re-enables the non-carried-out settings.

Alternatively, after setting Windows Update as "disabled" on the Services, hit "Stop Service" or force stop the Windows Update service that still running on the task manager services tab.

darkkain

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I found a way to keep updates from starting on another website, and so far so good. The service has not been able to start back up since.

Go to the windows update service in services.msc .

Change the account to guest on the logon tab, and delete the password ( make it blank ).

Stop the service, and try to restart it. It should generate an error. G2G.

You can change to disabled, but it will switch back from it at some point.
You will now receive a periodic error in your Event Log, but the service should not start back up.

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My USB watchdogs stopped working after the update.
Not a single one works anymore, the APP does not detect them heh.

Great Tongue

BitBustah

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Quote from: pickleburglar on March 01, 2018, 05:51:48 AM

Literally impossible with configuration, even if you disable the service, disable it in group policy editor and nuke it in the registry, delete update specific system files, whatever, win 10 will still update.

You are not insane. I experienced thesame.

BitBustah

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Quote from: RYXES on March 04, 2018, 02:49:32 PM

Quote from: BitBustah on March 04, 2018, 12:49:00 PM

Those tricks on Google don't work for all Windows versions.

I've tried all tricks:
- Changes in the registry
- Changes in the services
- Changes in the policies
- ...

Nothing seemed to work. I took the easy way out and am now using this:
http://www.site2unblock.com/win-updates-disabler/

Works like a charm.

Report back 4-5 days and let us know if it sticks?

I installed this program on januari 9th. Haven't had a single update yet.

I have the luxury of checking my rig multiple times every hour - My miner software does NOT start automatically at boot so I would have noticed if my system restarts.

RYXES

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Quote from: BitBustah on March 04, 2018, 12:49:00 PM

Those tricks on Google don't work for all Windows versions.

I've tried all tricks:
- Changes in the registry
- Changes in the services
- Changes in the policies
- ...

Nothing seemed to work. I took the easy way out and am now using this:
http://www.site2unblock.com/win-updates-disabler/

Works like a charm.

Report back 4-5 days and let us know if it sticks?

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Quote from: Cryptoipad on March 04, 2018, 12:44:00 PM

That is problem of mining industry in Windows update systems.the computer are mining itself an windows operating systems.With earlier versions of Windows you could simply set “Never check for updates”, or perhaps “Check for updates but let me choose…”, hit OK and that was that, Windows would obey your wishes. Windows 10 is not so easily dissuaded however, so this guide is going to cover one way of minimizing these annoyances and will help prevent the worst mining offenses such as updating your video drivers behind your back or rebooting your rigs at random times.the windows are computer programming system of mining process.

I see most of the people using the Linux platform only mining because there would not be any error passing on mining process. If you run the miner software on Windows like Awesome miner or something.
In some week of time when the you restart the mining machine it will not work correct, some cards may not work or hash rate will be reduced. These issues will be repeatedly occur on using the windows.

BitBustah

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Quote from: RYXES on March 01, 2018, 07:27:46 AM

go to Run

type "Services.msc" - Hit Enter

Scroll down to Windows update and click on it.

Change the tab to "Disabled", Click Apply.

I haven't had mine restart yet since.

Quote from: Bare on March 04, 2018, 12:13:12 PM

I've already told you guys, the only real solution is to disable it in group policy, I don't understand how's that not working for some of you...

I'm a IT student in college: I know my way around policies, services and the registry. I tried it, it doesn't work on every Windows version. Really, it doesn't.

BitBustah

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Those tricks on Google don't work for all Windows versions.

I've tried all tricks:
- Changes in the registry
- Changes in the services
- Changes in the policies
- ...

Nothing seemed to work. I took the easy way out and am now using this:
http://www.site2unblock.com/win-updates-disabler/

Works like a charm.

Cryptoipad

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That is problem of mining industry in Windows update systems.the computer are mining itself an windows operating systems.With earlier versions of Windows you could simply set “Never check for updates”, or perhaps “Check for updates but let me choose…”, hit OK and that was that, Windows would obey your wishes. Windows 10 is not so easily dissuaded however, so this guide is going to cover one way of minimizing these annoyances and will help prevent the worst mining offenses such as updating your video drivers behind your back or rebooting your rigs at random times.the windows are computer programming system of mining process.

Bare

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I've already told you guys, the only real solution is to disable it in group policy, I don't understand how's that not working for some of you...

dagarair

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i have about 150 machines on windows and about the same on linux. Do what I said earlier and it will not update anymore. That being said, im moving them all to linux soon.

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I disabled mine and it updated overnight by itself, had to re-install the blockchain drivers and now my primary GPU has 0 mh/s unless I connect a monitor Sad

Rody81

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Forget about trying to get rid of the Windows Update Assistant app, it will keep installing itself and running. Microsoft is not playing around with the updates. I am going to try the Group Policy edit trick that was posted here. I am pretty sure that should do the trick.

RYXES

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It is annoying windows does this, its even tried to update my GPU drivers to Crimson 17.7 which is dreadful.

RYXES

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go to Run

type "Services.msc" - Hit Enter

Scroll down to Windows update and click on it.

Change the tab to "Disabled", Click Apply.

I haven't had mine restart yet since.

pickleburglar

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Literally impossible with configuration, even if you disable the service, disable it in group policy editor and nuke it in the registry, delete update specific system files, whatever, win 10 will still update.

The only way I've found to disable it for good is to block all IP's in the router except for the IP range of the mining pools I'm using. At first I tried blacklisting microsoft specific IP ranges but new ones just keep popping up, its fucking creepy how much they wanna be able to remotely control your computer.

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There is nothing you can do. You just need to let it update.

I tried most of the above. It seemed to work but eventually every rig started the windows update anyways.

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Quote from: igotek on February 27, 2018, 05:15:01 PM

Windows Update is disabled but Windows updates itself automatically. I tried all of the tricks on the google, but no help. Do you have any trouble with the windows 10 updates ?

The problem you encountered the same happened to me; it happened last week, which caused the speed of the rate from 28 mhs down to 22 mhs. I use Rx 480 (4gb) for mining etc.

when it happens, I installed atikmdag patcher-bios patcher to restore its speed to its original state.

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I was thinking of trying that "Glasswire" gui easy firewall, has anyone tried it, does it take alot of cpu ticks?
I pretty sure this firewall cuts off windows completely from the mothership(AKA) Microsoft.

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That's exactly why I had to resort back to Win 7. I had a seriously capped internet service at a very remote location and the constant updates were killer!

Will be checking this thread to see if you get this figured out.... would be very helpful to know. Good luck!

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Quote from: Bare on February 27, 2018, 05:50:46 PM

Yeah I totally feel you, I've been there,
you can't disable windows updates in win 10 just like that as you did in earlier windows,
unless you use a very useful windows tool called "Local Group Policy Editor"

you can find it in search by typing "gpedit"

Once you open it, navigate to: Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows Update

Select, edit and set state of "Configure Automatic Updates" policy setting to Disabled

Also if you're having problems with windows updates constantly updating your graphic card drivers and/or other programs without your permission, such as in scenario where you have older cards like fiji running in your rig which have best equihash hashrate on 16.7.3 drivers
Then you should set "Do not include drivers with Windows Updates" policy setting to Enabled

You won't have windows updates bother you anymore, EVER!

Your solution is good. The other thing in the google and people says are worthless.Because i tried all of them. But i dont know why some of the rigs keeps receiving updates.

igotek

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I did all the things. Some of the rigs are fine: no update. But most of them updated again Sad

So I decided to switch from win to linux. I dont want to use Simple Mining because it is mainly for AMD GPUs. I have only NVIDIA GPUS. and I need all of the ccminer forks. HiveOs is a good mining system for NVIDIA GPUS because it has all ccminer forks.

Quote from: Mister1k on February 28, 2018, 10:55:45 AM

Quote from: igotek on February 27, 2018, 05:15:01 PM

Windows Update is disabled but Windows updates itself automatically. I tried all of the tricks on the google, but no help. Do you have any trouble with the windows 10 updates ?

I hope you are using the Windows 10 OS. Pre-installs Windows Update Assistant will be always update the OS if you disable via Windows update center settings too. Please go to Uninstall a Program tool and unistall the 'Windows Update Assistant' and then go to disable the update forever.

Better advice if you flashdrive with you. Flash it for Hive OS start mining and monitor via remote dekstop.

I have switched my 12 rigs to HiveOs. There are more 2 rigs to be switched.

There is a big problem:

all of the rigs are mining but seems offline on hiveos.farm web site. The internet connection is fine. No connection problem. I have double checked my internet connection. I found a solution.:

-Power off the rig.
-Power on the rig.
-Type "hello" and hit the enter.
-It fails because of limited connection time (after 4 seconds, it fails.)
-Type "hello" and hit the enter.
-It fails because of limited connection time (after 4 seconds, it fails.)
-Power off the rig.
-Power on the rig.
-Type "hello" and hit the enter. You will see "Touching /tmp/.hive-hello-ok" message.
-All of the rigs are online !

Just follow these steps on a rig. No need to dothem on all of the rigs. Only one rig and BAM ! All rigs are online.

But it s so strange that all of the rigs will go offline again in 20 minutes.

How could I fix the problem Huh

Bare

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Quote from: Ursul0 on February 28, 2018, 05:33:24 PM

ohhh... just open gpedit.msc find Windows Update under Administrative Templates, change Windows Update policy to disabled and run "gpupdate /force" => that's it

Exactly!

I mean seriously, did anyone read my post at all? It can't be that hard to follow it...

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ohhh... just open gpedit.msc find Windows Update under Administrative Templates, change Windows Update policy to disabled and run "gpupdate /force" => that's it

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Working with Windows is a great challenge, i like it! btw it works perfectly.

Dannyh2

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Honestly i don't know why everyone is using Windows....

Just switch to Linux, have a headache for 2 days and after that you will never go back Grin

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It looks like Win 10 has (recently) finessed their update policy. Previously, you could block and manually update through one of the group policy win update options (#2).

Now, when you manually update there is a new proviso displayed, Microsoft will update (specific?) functions anyway if not updating interferes with the smooth operation of Windows.

I think this is ok, as long as it's a required, critical security fix. This new finesse maybe related to the recent discovery of intel and AMD processor security problems.

I'm assuming also that the ability to block new drivers is still intact.

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Mining on linux is 100x better than Windows. Just switch to a proper OS and you dont have to worry about this headache.

I have a single customer in my DC that runs windows miners and the forced creator update last week almost broke my network.

Needless to say we now have a policy that all GPU miners must be linux based.

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10 Windows is really constantly updated. I have tried everything. But there is software which makes changes to the Windows registry and this problem is solved. My friend told me to install it remotely it's via. I haven't had this much trouble for a year now. There are services that are professionally engaged in setting rigs. A contact there.

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The only way to block it is to go into the services make sure windows update is disabled THEN AND MOST IMPORTANT click logon tab select bottom button add administrator as the login then PUT IN A WRONG PASSWORD and save. Then when it tries to start it can't. This is the only way to block updates 100%.

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Quote from: igotek on February 27, 2018, 05:15:01 PM

Windows Update is disabled but Windows updates itself automatically. I tried all of the tricks on the google, but no help. Do you have any trouble with the windows 10 updates ?

Easy trick to disable Windows Update in Windows 10 is to set the Wsus Settings to local host---

Are you good in group polocies ?
If not PM Me i send you an how to to do this

dear

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Quote from: igotek on February 27, 2018, 05:15:01 PM

Windows Update is disabled but Windows updates itself automatically. I tried all of the tricks on the google, but no help. Do you have any trouble with the windows 10 updates ?

I hope you are using the Windows 10 OS. Pre-installs Windows Update Assistant will be always update the OS if you disable via Windows update center settings too. Please go to Uninstall a Program tool and unistall the 'Windows Update Assistant' and then go to disable the update forever.

Better advice if you flashdrive with you. Flash it for Hive OS start mining and monitor via remote dekstop.

Zeth0

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Try setting your connection as "Metered Connection" and active time from 6AM to 12AM.

That works for me.

rascao

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for me, only disabling the services windows update on services.msc do the trick just fine

Bare

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Yeah I totally feel you, I've been there,
you can't disable windows updates in win 10 just like that as you did in earlier windows,
unless you use a very useful windows tool called "Local Group Policy Editor"

you can find it in search by typing "gpedit"

Once you open it, navigate to: Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows Update

Select, edit and set state of "Configure Automatic Updates" policy setting to Disabled

Also if you're having problems with windows updates constantly updating your graphic card drivers and/or other programs without your permission, such as in scenario where you have older cards like fiji running in your rig which have best equihash hashrate on 16.7.3 drivers
Then you should set "Do not include drivers with Windows Updates" policy setting to Enabled

You won't have windows updates bother you anymore, EVER!

igotek

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Windows Update is disabled but Windows updates itself automatically. I tried all of the tricks on the google, but no help. Do you have any trouble with the windows 10 updates ?

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