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legendary
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It is very important to have more of producers than consumers in a country, that is another factor that can boost an economy. My country today is suffering because we consume more than we produce.
I'm always using china as an instance cause I really like their system they make sure every child after their secondary school is engaged in one production or the other and after producing they make sure it is exported and they also deal with high consumption of home made products so for that they are super successful in Economy. That is the area my country is lacking knowledge we have the potentials to do things we want but we're not doing them we basically focus on consumption.
Elon musk made a statement saying, when you give a monkey bananas and also give them money they would prefer the bananas over the money not knowing the money can even buy them more bananas..I just wish I could talk to my country people and make them understand economical terms especially in this period that we are facing economical challenges.

I highly recommend studying how China's economy is tripled. Just a hint with three words: “import-oriented economy”.

And regarding “producers must outnumber buyers”. Tell me how you see the situation, greatly simplified for understanding and “calculation”:
You and 5 bread producers live in your city. You ... well, let's say you're a fisherman who can supply fish to the bread makers. Tell me how your town will live within the framework of your concept ? Smiley
The free market is self-regulating! If there are more producers than necessary, there is a forced drop in prices to the level of economic feasibility or product quality (to reduce production costs), which then leads to a reduction in the number of producers. And when demand (number of consumers) grows - more producers appear, competition grows ... These are the basics of the market Smiley
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By now we have a lot consumers than real innovation to do things smart ways.
What are the one big problem in the world is that we have a lot people many of them own business are in key positions of countries but they have no skills no innovation and plan


Wooh wooh OP please cut down on the long post, like it's being a usual routine for you posting very longer threads tho sometimes they are informative but you can as well draft or wrap them up in few sentence and words but not necessarily this patterns all the time, but try to lessen your words abit so members don't find it bored reading through. And the problem we have today is that most people have refused to make new innovations to benefit themselves and the society but rather they don't mind remaining idle and wait for a changethe world needs people that can make new innovations rather than an idle fellow that keeps hand tight and wait for a change.
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in other words, sains and its enthusiasts are looking for more information, with many continuing to research, but from the perspective of certain groups of people, because firstly the expenditure is quite large, and they also expect to get back what they spend, so that the finances obtained from research are more, that is something that usually happens.
Spending some money to do more research is a very natural thing and it can also be considered as capital for researchers to be able to move faster in order to save more time in collecting more information. So things like that are indeed appropriate and I think it is very appropriate even though in the end every researcher will also expect more rewards through the discoveries they have found before. Because now there is no job that is truly free to do so that everything always requires capital in the form of money, energy, and also time.
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It is very important to have more of producers than consumers in a country, that is another factor that can boost an economy. My country today is suffering because we consume more than we produce.
I'm always using china as an instance cause I really like their system they make sure every child after their secondary school is engaged in one production or the other and after producing they make sure it is exported and they also deal with high consumption of home made products so for that they are super successful in Economy. That is the area my country is lacking knowledge we have the potentials to do things we want but we're not doing them we basically focus on consumption.
Elon musk made a statement saying, when you give a monkey bananas and also give them money they would prefer the bananas over the money not knowing the money can even buy them more bananas..I just wish I could talk to my country people and make them understand economical terms especially in this period that we are facing economical challenges.
legendary
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By now we have a lot consumers than real innovation to do things smart ways.
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On the one hand, you're right. More specifically, in terms of idealizing the world. But... the problem is that if there are not MORE consumers, there will be no one to consume all these innovations and their products, which means that no one will pay and motivate the “creators” to take the next steps and create new products and services. Unfortunately, the real market is built on commodity-money relations.....

I don't know, but I think there are a lot of products to be sold, there could be new as we all know with that advent of social media, sales are ramping up and for me, there are always new product and innovations around the world and there will be always be balance of consumers=product itself.

Most likely it boils down to the cost of the product, perhaps these innovators wanted it to be cheap, sacrificing the quality itself.

However, I still do think that there are a lot for everyone it might be that the market is really saturated at this point.

There are laws of the market that cannot be circumvented.
You cannot sell a product that is not needed by the market or has no customers.  There is no point in inventing 100500 variants of the same product, just because you want to “get creative” Smiley  Yes, there should be a choice, there should be competition, there should be a vector of development and innovations.... But the process of creation for the sake of the process of creation cannot be put in the forefront. One should also realize that “inventing new products” can be quite complicated and costly, which means that it will affect the final price of the product, and if accurate - it will increase it a lot, which will reduce the potential range of consumers.... In short - everything needs a balance Smiley
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The world has mainly evolved but it's  however unfortunate it's involving fast to a hard landing surface where just a pretty few elites are benefiting mostly from everything in a teeming population of over 8 billion people. Capitalist ideal has characterized the world today that scarcely can we have any invention created without been monetized, which in all essence people don't invent forbthe sole purpose of improving humans lives but for their best interest, and I think with where we have reached there's nothing that can be done about it.

The desire to earn money quickly pushes the new generation and many people to do easy jobs. They do not have the desire to learn a craft. It is not right to blame them for this because they live in such a time and there are options to earn money on social media. The important point is whether this income will be a permanent income. There is a lot of talk about education, some say that the duration of education is too long, and some say that they will not be able to have a profession that will provide them with a living as a result of education.

As time passed, it became difficult to access inventions or things that benefit people. Money was prioritized in many things and therefore the world lost some of its values.
Majorly not everyone can invent but everyone can consume and that's entails why a lot of persons prefer going in search for a job than spending time and limited resources to create or invent anything outstanding which profoundly solves a societal problem.

In the area of learning any craft work, the world perspective made it that way. If you haven't pass through the four walls of a college or university to owning a degree (with the prospect of getting a whitecolllar job) but only with just one craft skill you don't get that much respect as someone who's termed a graduate would be accorded. Except in few cases where you got to make something extraordinary that distinguishes you. 
legendary
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90% of consumers are middle class. In about ~30 years, the middle class will be completely eliminated by the super-rich, as this class is no longer needed. The middle class was created by the rich out of fear of communism. Now that the Cold War has been won, the middle class is not needed. So there will be fewer consumers. As for the many smart people you write about, the super-rich don't need these smart people in large numbers.  A few hundred or thousands of super-intelligent slaves are enough for them. The rest will all be just slaves. And there won't be many others, perhaps no more than 500 million on the whole planet. The super-rich will destroy the extra people. Don't you like this prospect? But there's nothing to be done. Everything has already been decided by the globalists.

Well, I have a slightly different opinion. The middle class is the engine of the economy - they produce and they consume. And they do a LOT of both. It is under these conditions that a country's economy works qualitatively. Poor population = weak economy. The super-rich need power, and power is not a primitive slave system with poor and backward people, but a progressive one, with technology, a working economy, the right electorate that enjoys life ...
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90% of consumers are middle class. In about ~30 years, the middle class will be completely eliminated by the super-rich, as this class is no longer needed. The middle class was created by the rich out of fear of communism. Now that the Cold War has been won, the middle class is not needed. So there will be fewer consumers. As for the many smart people you write about, the super-rich don't need these smart people in large numbers.  A few hundred or thousands of super-intelligent slaves are enough for them. The rest will all be just slaves. And there won't be many others, perhaps no more than 500 million on the whole planet. The super-rich will destroy the extra people. Don't you like this prospect? But there's nothing to be done. Everything has already been decided by the globalists.
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By now we have a lot consumers than real innovation to do things smart ways.
.....

On the one hand, you're right. More specifically, in terms of idealizing the world. But... the problem is that if there are not MORE consumers, there will be no one to consume all these innovations and their products, which means that no one will pay and motivate the “creators” to take the next steps and create new products and services. Unfortunately, the real market is built on commodity-money relations.....

I don't know, but I think there are a lot of products to be sold, there could be new as we all know with that advent of social media, sales are ramping up and for me, there are always new product and innovations around the world and there will be always be balance of consumers=product itself.

Most likely it boils down to the cost of the product, perhaps these innovators wanted it to be cheap, sacrificing the quality itself.

However, I still do think that there are a lot for everyone it might be that the market is really saturated at this point.
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Things are evolving but it doesn't mean the interest is shifted from science, there's always people researching about the things and lot of old theories have been obsolete due to the new innovations but I am not sure all those research can be monetized so those are mostly done out of their personal interest. Coming up with the solutions is the ultimate goal that can give opportunities to make money so if people are interested in that, then obviously they will follow that path to reach their goals.

in other words, sains and its enthusiasts are looking for more information, with many continuing to research, but from the perspective of certain groups of people, because firstly the expenditure is quite large, and they also expect to get back what they spend, so that the finances obtained from research are more, that is something that usually happens.
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Things are evolving but it doesn't mean the interest is shifted from science, there's always people researching about the things and lot of old theories have been obsolete due to the new innovations but I am not sure all those research can be monetized so those are mostly done out of their personal interest. Coming up with the solutions is the ultimate goal that can give opportunities to make money so if people are interested in that, then obviously they will follow that path to reach their goals.
The trick to make people be interested in science seems to be two possibilities, either the research should lead them closer to a noble prize or anything like that, as in a respect in the field they work on, or they need to make a lot of money from it. These are usually not the same type of people, but there could be some overlapped as well.

People who want respect, end up focusing on things that may not end up getting too much money, because they work on things that will not help the world in the sense that it would be profitable, but it will help the world solve another puzzle, the ones who want money though, will solve a solution so important, we would all be willing to spend our money to get our hands o nit, so that is why these two are usually separate. In any case, I can see how this will progress the world, the more research we do, the more we are going to get better results and be happy, it shouldn't really be something on debate, we need to keep putting more money into research and development.
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By now we have a lot consumers than real innovation to do things smart ways.
.....

On the one hand, you're right. More specifically, in terms of idealizing the world. But... the problem is that if there are not MORE consumers, there will be no one to consume all these innovations and their products, which means that no one will pay and motivate the “creators” to take the next steps and create new products and services. Unfortunately, the real market is built on commodity-money relations.....
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Let us put it this way, we have a lot of scientists worldwide, however, most of them are underfunded and so they can't push thru their works. Hence, they have limitations on what they can produce or create. However, when pandemic hit the world, I believe, a lot of scientists collaborated to come up with new medicines specifically the vaccines. As there was time constraints, they needed to work fast.

Haven't you noticed the huge decline in people interested in natural sciences? That wasn't same few centuries back, when people learnt all core sciences; physics and chemistry, and put them into practice. Those courses helped creativity and improved the way humans think. Even in the tech world, programmers who have a great knowledge of science build the best innovative software that helps change the world.
Things are evolving but it doesn't mean the interest is shifted from science, there's always people researching about the things and lot of old theories have been obsolete due to the new innovations but I am not sure all those research can be monetized so those are mostly done out of their personal interest. Coming up with the solutions is the ultimate goal that can give opportunities to make money so if people are interested in that, then obviously they will follow that path to reach their goals.
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If there are more than enough manufacturers and producers, then why are things unaffordable for people?

Because they ask more than people can give. Companies don't make products based on people's actual needs or their average salary (even if they try to show us as they did) but based on their profit. If people get paid more, then probably this "problem" will be solved. But you know, this isn't a one-solution problem.

Everything has to be balanced.

Balance is lost years now man and we are unable to do a thing. Companies do whatever they want everywhere while governments don't give the slightest attention to their citizen's needs and act like brokerages of their countries by selling even the air that they breathe.
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Actually it t is the other way around, there are more than enough manufacturers/producers/creators. We need more consumers. That’s how capitalism works. If everybody makes stuff, who is going to pay for the stuff?  More creators mean more competition. More competition means, less profits for the businesses. If the number of consumers increase, profit margins will rise. Many developed nations take immigrants into their countries because of that reason alone. It is because their enlightened citizens refuse make damn kids. They need them poor stupid immigrants that multiply like rabbits. It is good for the economy and capitalism. Yay
I will disagree with you a little base on my country of origin where practically everything is imported. This leaves room for more businesses, manufacturers, innovators and so on, to harness the vast natural resources and convert them to finished products for both internal consumption and export. At present, most of our raw materials such as crude oil and mineral deposits are exported due to non-existence of the manufacturing sector. This is actually not the fault of anyone but just a result of failure in leadership.
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If there are more than enough manufacturers and producers, then why are things unaffordable for people? Many people work overtimes and live paycheck to paycheck, can't afford more than food and it takes them years to buy a car or smartphone.

That is because of inflation, and just because there are more than enough manufacturers, it doesn't mean there won't be inflation in a region. Every manufacturer will have its own demand and price for its products. When there is high inflation, product costs increase which makes them increase the prices of the products even more because they have to cover product cost and their profit as well.

I think that more competition makes things affordable.

Yes but not all the time. Sometimes, especially when there is high inflation in a country, competition doesn't help get the prices of goods down and the reason behind that is probably what I said above. The production cost increases which compels them to increase the price of the gids.
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Let us put it this way, we have a lot of scientists worldwide, however, most of them are underfunded and so they can't push thru their works. Hence, they have limitations on what they can produce or create. However, when pandemic hit the world, I believe, a lot of scientists collaborated to come up with new medicines specifically the vaccines. As there was time constraints, they needed to work fast.

Haven't you noticed the huge decline in people interested in natural sciences? That wasn't same few centuries back, when people learnt all core sciences; physics and chemistry, and put them into practice. Those courses helped creativity and improved the way humans think. Even in the tech world, programmers who have a great knowledge of science build the best innovative software that helps change the world.
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OP, I suggest you to create shorter posts because it's too long for the idea that you put into it. Yes, you could very shortly write that your main idea is how lesser and lesser innovators and more unskilled people we have.
At the moment, I don't like the direction we are heading towards. It looks like we prioritize fun and entertainment instead of science, engineering, biology and chemistry. It's not like that these field are dead, no, there are innovations but not at the rate you want OP and I think that's normal. Usually, wars accelerate these fields and improved quality of life decreases motivation to work in these fields because it's easier to have a good life by less mental and physical effort.
By the way, do not worry, there is a natural selection in this world, which will always do its job. If there is a demand, there will be a supply, that will happen quickly. Just have a look how rapidly medicine and absolutely everything advanced in a few decades during World Wars.

Let us put it this way, we have a lot of scientists worldwide, however, most of them are underfunded and so they can't push thru their works. Hence, they have limitations on what they can produce or create. However, when pandemic hit the world, I believe, a lot of scientists collaborated to come up with new medicines specifically the vaccines. As there was time constraints, they needed to work fast.
Well, We know that a number of good scientists are there into the world but scarcity of fund is often the biggest factor that hinders it to invent something new. Still, when the Covid nineteen crisis came, we were able to note how researchers from different global countries started pulling their selves together, cooperating and going to thescenes with full effort in order to come up with emergent interventions, including vaccines. Despite time constraint, the group was able to mobilize on existing resources and transfer knowledge towards attainment of a particular goal in mind. This shows how crucial supporter ship and cooperation is in order to solve some of the big issues facing science and health internationally.
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OP, I suggest you to create shorter posts because it's too long for the idea that you put into it. Yes, you could very shortly write that your main idea is how lesser and lesser innovators and more unskilled people we have.
At the moment, I don't like the direction we are heading towards. It looks like we prioritize fun and entertainment instead of science, engineering, biology and chemistry. It's not like that these field are dead, no, there are innovations but not at the rate you want OP and I think that's normal. Usually, wars accelerate these fields and improved quality of life decreases motivation to work in these fields because it's easier to have a good life by less mental and physical effort.
By the way, do not worry, there is a natural selection in this world, which will always do its job. If there is a demand, there will be a supply, that will happen quickly. Just have a look how rapidly medicine and absolutely everything advanced in a few decades during World Wars.

Think of the fact that we have a lot of scientists worldwide, however, most of them are underfunded and so they can't push thru their works. Hence, they have limitations on what they can produce or create. However, when pandemic hit the world, I believe, a lot of scientists collaborated to come up with new medicines specifically the vaccines. As there was time constraints, they needed to work fast. In this event, it showed that the world of science can make things happen if they want to at a short notice. Since private companies funded a lot of these works, money was not a problem but the time.
With this scenario - it can show that if scientists are being well-equipped, they can do a lot more things for a short period of time. And that means, money and resources are very important to push thru certain advancements because skilled people are already available.
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Most inventors who created many important things we use today didn't monetise their inventions. They invented these things to make the world better. But we have the opposite now where almost everything is done for profit. The young generation doesn't care about going to school and learning professional courses. Even those in school are more focused on creating contents and promoting them on social media and earning quick money. The younger generation has a common slogan in my country "School is a scam". They prefer to join the race of social media celebrities who flaunt their wealth rather than become struggling professionals.       
The world has mainly evolved but it's  however unfortunate it's involving fast to a hard landing surface where just a pretty few elites are benefiting mostly from everything in a teeming population of over 8 billion people. Capitalist ideal has characterized the world today that scarcely can we have any invention created without been monetized, which in all essence people don't invent forbthe sole purpose of improving humans lives but for their best interest, and I think with where we have reached there's nothing that can be done about it.

The desire to earn money quickly pushes the new generation and many people to do easy jobs. They do not have the desire to learn a craft. It is not right to blame them for this because they live in such a time and there are options to earn money on social media. The important point is whether this income will be a permanent income. There is a lot of talk about education, some say that the duration of education is too long, and some say that they will not be able to have a profession that will provide them with a living as a result of education.

As time passed, it became difficult to access inventions or things that benefit people. Money was prioritized in many things and therefore the world lost some of its values.
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Woo. Has anyone noticed that the name of OP doesn’t match the post? It’s so long. :O
Lol Op we appreciate the topic but you do not need to be putting out these much lengthy posts. I don’t know if you really just have much to say but sometimes keeping it concise and simple makes a better read and becomes more attractive for members

It is also to keep ourselves on track …with a post this long, it’s very easy to get sidetracked and lose the original point
This is some sort of new spam post type that some people are testing, no idea why they are doing this, but those "777" people as you can see, or "2222" or whatever, they are probably all the same person and this one looks like it could be the same person as well, they just spam. The difference is, they do not share gibberish, they actually do start topics with some good logic behind it.

Like for example, the world DO need more creators, we need to keep improving the world, the way we are advancing in technology is insane for example, but there are still some ways we need to improve, like education is still lacking, health is still lacking.

For example Cancer kills about 10 million people a year, A YEAR, by logic covid killed 7 million people so far since we first saw someone having it, and the whole world went to lockdown afterwards, we all remember how people were scared of it, and yet more people die of cancer every single year, and we do not have enough advance medication for it that saves everyone easily, people still die, over ten million of them.

Sure there are improvements and advances, but obviously not enough if this many people die from it, we need to reach to a point where we can say we have a pill you take and you are better in a month or two, after 75 years of being top two reason of death, there should have been better advancement of medical world. So we definitely need people who are great creators of everything, not just consumers.
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Most inventors who created many important things we use today didn't monetise their inventions. They invented these things to make the world better. But we have the opposite now where almost everything is done for profit. The young generation doesn't care about going to school and learning professional courses. Even those in school are more focused on creating contents and promoting them on social media and earning quick money. The younger generation has a common slogan in my country "School is a scam". They prefer to join the race of social media celebrities who flaunt their wealth rather than become struggling professionals.       
The world has mainly evolved but it's  however unfortunate it's involving fast to a hard landing surface where just a pretty few elites are benefiting mostly from everything in a teeming population of over 8 billion people. Capitalist ideal has characterized the world today that scarcely can we have any invention created without been monetized, which in all essence people don't invent forbthe sole purpose of improving humans lives but for their best interest, and I think with where we have reached there's nothing that can be done about it.
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Actually it t is the other way around, there are more than enough manufacturers/producers/creators. We need more consumers. That’s how capitalism works. If everybody makes stuff, who is going to pay for the stuff?  More creators mean more competition. More competition means, less profits for the businesses. If the number of consumers increase, profit margins will rise. Many developed nations take immigrants into their countries because of that reason alone. It is because their enlightened citizens refuse make damn kids. They need them poor stupid immigrants that multiply like rabbits. It is good for the economy and capitalism. Yay

Capitalism believes the power of production and ownership should remain in the hands of some few individuals while the rest of the people are consumers. It isn't just as you simply mentioned above. Whether capitalism or not, what we are saying is there's need for more people to control resources so as to depopulate the amount of consumers by making a few of those become producers and manufacturers while also opening more opportunities for more people to control have access to their resources and contribute to the economy.

I know many countries around the world that operate this kind of economic ideology where only a few class of individuals are granted with business favors and collaborations whereas others are left at the mercy of their fate. It is usually a deliberate efforts by the government to regulate the big businesses around town to continue to maintain that capitalist driven economy.
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Actually it t is the other way around, there are more than enough manufacturers/producers/creators. We need more consumers. That’s how capitalism works. If everybody makes stuff, who is going to pay for the stuff?  More creators mean more competition. More competition means, less profits for the businesses. If the number of consumers increase, profit margins will rise. Many developed nations take immigrants into their countries because of that reason alone. It is because their enlightened citizens refuse make damn kids. They need them poor stupid immigrants that multiply like rabbits. It is good for the economy and capitalism. Yay
If there are more than enough manufacturers and producers, then why are things unaffordable for people? Many people work overtimes and live paycheck to paycheck, can't afford more than food and it takes them years to buy a car or smartphone. I think that more competition makes things affordable.
For example, if you leave only Apple in smartphone business, they'll make lots of money but when the number of producers increased and companies like Xiaomi and Huawei entered the market, they pushed other companies to make more affordable smartphones with more innovations than before. High competition forces companies to find cheaper but good quality alternatives, find new ways to save money without losing quality and etc.
Btw number of consumers matter, I agree with you. Everything has to be balanced.
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Actually it t is the other way around, there are more than enough manufacturers/producers/creators. We need more consumers. That’s how capitalism works. If everybody makes stuff, who is going to pay for the stuff?  More creators mean more competition. More competition means, less profits for the businesses. If the number of consumers increase, profit margins will rise. Many developed nations take immigrants into their countries because of that reason alone. It is because their enlightened citizens refuse make damn kids. They need them poor stupid immigrants that multiply like rabbits. It is good for the economy and capitalism. Yay
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Woo. Has anyone noticed that the name of OP doesn’t match the post? It’s so long. :O
Lol Op we appreciate the topic but you do not need to be putting out these much lengthy posts. I don’t know if you really just have much to say but sometimes keeping it concise and simple makes a better read and becomes more attractive for members

It is also to keep ourselves on track …with a post this long, it’s very easy to get sidetracked and lose the original point
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I believe there should be balance in a way but not much that it makes people not do anything. Consumers are the reason why they are doing it in the first place. It’s the profit. I think that the point of having more builders is more innovation would be done but being a consumer is for everyone. You’re a builder and consumer. It’s both worlds.
The problem is not that there are consumers but that there is too much consumers.

There honestly are a lot of cons to the ever growing consumption of most people. The main issue I have is how it affects the environment. I have seen many people buy one thing just to use it one time never again and then buy the same exact product maybe a little better and then just like the first one, throw it again. These people have no regard for the impact they make on the environment and the community.
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Creators play important role in modern time and creators are earning in Millions of dollars and we  need that kind of creators. Tik tok is good platform to market any product or any project or token ,the creator of tik tok made that and millions of people are earning through TikTok. Telegram owner is Durev and millions of people are using this platform for different purposes and they are earning by doing bounties, airdrops and many more and Twitter creator also gave good platform to perform and millions of persons are earning from that. Youtube is best platform to earn by making content and yours followers like you and they buy the project which you market . I will say thank you to You tube creator because he changed the World and now people don't need to read books.
Yes, they are earning lots of money, I have never said that they don't earn, I simply say that it's not fair. Today, people like KSI, XQC, Mellstroy and others earn millions of dollar via that platform and that's not really good. What do they do? Some dumb shit and sadly, people make them popular for their dumb abilities and behaviors. A person, who get PHD in science, studies quantum physics, etc, can't make money but this is the thing that's important for the society to develop and rapidly improve our quality of life even further but dumb youtubers and influencers earn more than scientists and people of other professions. Today, kids want to become youtubers and tiktokers instead of scientists engineers, doctors, physicists... I don't think this will end up well.
Most inventors who created many important things we use today didn't monetise their inventions. They invented these things to make the world better. But we have the opposite now where almost everything is done for profit. The young generation doesn't care about going to school and learning professional courses. Even those in school are more focused on creating contents and promoting them on social media and earning quick money. The younger generation has a common slogan in my country "School is a scam". They prefer to join the race of social media celebrities who flaunt their wealth rather than become struggling professionals.       
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Creators play important role in modern time and creators are earning in Millions of dollars and we  need that kind of creators. Tik tok is good platform to market any product or any project or token ,the creator of tik tok made that and millions of people are earning through TikTok. Telegram owner is Durev and millions of people are using this platform for different purposes and they are earning by doing bounties, airdrops and many more and Twitter creator also gave good platform to perform and millions of persons are earning from that. Youtube is best platform to earn by making content and yours followers like you and they buy the project which you market . I will say thank you to You tube creator because he changed the World and now people don't need to read books.
Yes, they are earning lots of money, I have never said that they don't earn, I simply say that it's not fair. Today, people like KSI, XQC, Mellstroy and others earn millions of dollar via that platform and that's not really good. What do they do? Some dumb shit and sadly, people make them popular for their dumb abilities and behaviors. A person, who get PHD in science, studies quantum physics, etc, can't make money but this is the thing that's important for the society to develop and rapidly improve our quality of life even further but dumb youtubers and influencers earn more than scientists and people of other professions. Today, kids want to become youtubers and tiktokers instead of scientists engineers, doctors, physicists... I don't think this will end up well.
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So Western countries knew that they need sanctions otherwise russian wealth will over-flood all their system and there would be no time to serve the regular customers...lol so they made restrictions and sanctions.

This is one of the most ridiculous explanations of the western sanctions I've ever seen. Grin They had to impose sanctions over Russia because Russian wealth will "flood their system"? Really? I guess Russian companies and banks have tens of trillions of dollars at their disposal. Grin
Most of the consumers around the world are also employees, who are earning money while working 9-to-5. The pure consumers are people, who are living out of welfare and retired pensioners. You are right about this. The world need less people living on government aid and more employees. Grin
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OP, I suggest you to create shorter posts because it's too long for the idea that you put into it. Yes, you could very shortly write that your main idea is how lesser and lesser innovators and more unskilled people we have.
At the moment, I don't like the direction we are heading towards. It looks like we prioritize fun and entertainment instead of science, engineering, biology and chemistry. It's not like that these field are dead, no, there are innovations but not at the rate you want OP and I think that's normal. Usually, wars accelerate these fields and improved quality of life decreases motivation to work in these fields because it's easier to have a good life by less mental and physical effort.
By the way, do not worry, there is a natural selection in this world, which will always do its job. If there is a demand, there will be a supply, that will happen quickly. Just have a look how rapidly medicine and absolutely everything advanced in a few decades during World Wars.
There is more benefit because a larger post will work for something that is well communicated. These things are of no use in this era, more emphasis is placed on technology because the coming era is more dependent on it. If you want to study, you can take interest in technology and computer.  It has a lot of benefits. Due to this you can eliminate many difficulties. i think no other work than these works can be done at this time, but many people will regret it after this period because there are many facilities that can provide the same because if we look in the field like technology and computer, it shows job and many things which are also connected with worldly sciences.It can be a bit difficult for us because these tasks require the brain to be active all the time. There is no coercion in this, I am telling the benefits that will support us in the future.
Creators play important role in modern time and creators are earning in Millions of dollars and we  need that kind of creators. Tik tok is good platform to market any product or any project or token ,the creator of tik tok made that and millions of people are earning through TikTok. Telegram owner is Durev and millions of people are using this platform for different purposes and they are earning by doing bounties, airdrops and many more and Twitter creator also gave good platform to perform and millions of persons are earning from that. Youtube is best platform to earn by making content and yours followers like you and they buy the project which you market . I will say thank you to You tube creator because he changed the World and now people don't need to read books.
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There is more benefit because a larger post will work for something that is well communicated. These things are of no use in this era, more emphasis is placed on technology because the coming era is more dependent on it. If you want to study, you can take interest in technology and computer.  It has a lot of benefits. Due to this you can eliminate many difficulties. i think no other work than these works can be done at this time, but many people will regret it after this period because there are many facilities that can provide the same because if we look in the field like technology and computer, it shows job and many things which are also connected with worldly sciences.It can be a bit difficult for us because these tasks require the brain to be active all the time. There is no coercion in this, I am telling the benefits that will support us in the future.

with innovative and intelligent thinking that is needed in terms of progress that is obtained, the need for insight to survive, I think it is clear enough to conclude all this, and what is done now must follow the progress of technology to achieve and adjust the level of development that exists according to the present.
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OP, I suggest you to create shorter posts because it's too long for the idea that you put into it. Yes, you could very shortly write that your main idea is how lesser and lesser innovators and more unskilled people we have.
At the moment, I don't like the direction we are heading towards. It looks like we prioritize fun and entertainment instead of science, engineering, biology and chemistry. It's not like that these field are dead, no, there are innovations but not at the rate you want OP and I think that's normal. Usually, wars accelerate these fields and improved quality of life decreases motivation to work in these fields because it's easier to have a good life by less mental and physical effort.
By the way, do not worry, there is a natural selection in this world, which will always do its job. If there is a demand, there will be a supply, that will happen quickly. Just have a look how rapidly medicine and absolutely everything advanced in a few decades during World Wars.
There is more benefit because a larger post will work for something that is well communicated. These things are of no use in this era, more emphasis is placed on technology because the coming era is more dependent on it. If you want to study, you can take interest in technology and computer.  It has a lot of benefits. Due to this you can eliminate many difficulties. i think no other work than these works can be done at this time, but many people will regret it after this period because there are many facilities that can provide the same because if we look in the field like technology and computer, it shows job and many things which are also connected with worldly sciences.It can be a bit difficult for us because these tasks require the brain to be active all the time. There is no coercion in this, I am telling the benefits that will support us in the future.
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OP, I suggest you to create shorter posts because it's too long for the idea that you put into it. Yes, you could very shortly write that your main idea is how lesser and lesser innovators and more unskilled people we have.
At the moment, I don't like the direction we are heading towards. It looks like we prioritize fun and entertainment instead of science, engineering, biology and chemistry. It's not like that these field are dead, no, there are innovations but not at the rate you want OP and I think that's normal. Usually, wars accelerate these fields and improved quality of life decreases motivation to work in these fields because it's easier to have a good life by less mental and physical effort.
By the way, do not worry, there is a natural selection in this world, which will always do its job. If there is a demand, there will be a supply, that will happen quickly. Just have a look how rapidly medicine and absolutely everything advanced in a few decades during World Wars.
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And if your idea is to make be the solution to a particular problem then you will make both money and a solution to the whole problem and the people that are designed to just consume don't have anything to give out to people they are meant to consume, we all can not be the same so we just have to choose what part we have to take but the interesting now is that everyone is becoming a producer one way or the other everyone is trying to help them self, things are no longer the same so we have to just get our self to involve to make survive easy.

Very interesting the title of the OP post about the World needs more creators and builders of smart ways, not just consumers when I read it.

Regarding your response, it is quite relevant and allow me to compare it with some current conditions and correlate the facts to this. we see now that many countries in the world have abundant natural resources from God's gift. but it is very unfortunate that they are only spectators and consumers for these products where they can only provide raw materials to be sold. When will it progress if it continues like that in improving the welfare of its people.

Have creativity but no resources to support it.
Have the resources to finance it all but it is very difficult to find creative people who can work together and are trustworthy.

2 important things to create maximum results when you want to provide product satisfaction for consumers. The main basic capital is being able to provide the facilities needed to create works, both in quality and quantity. The economic world never lacks creative people but the matter of resources that support smart ideas is always looked down upon. The government does not play a role in supporting local works, they look for instant ones, imported goods, famous brands while the works of the nation's children are always easily drowned out.
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That is very correct that the rate of consumers has actually surpassed productions and due to low quantities of produces, it has also become an economy problems of inflations.

There is been competition on consumption sectors while there is less Interests of producers of the demanded commodities.

Most persons are after of working classes of earning payments rather than engaging on creativities which could even have as well give them medium of earning.

This is cause of the people relying too much on the government hoping they would provide all necessary amenities for them but they fails to understand that too much reliability turns exorbitant burdens to the providers.

The world has so much distanced from agricultures and are now most focused on technologies while human essential consumable commodities are being undermined.
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You've covered some important points here. This not only affects trade. but also includes world economic and social development. It is true that today's generation has more resources focused on saving energy than on true innovation or creating sustainable systems. This leads to the illusion that resources are exhausted and real progress is often suppressed.

What you said about the mob mentality is interesting. This is especially true when it comes to how some rich people and business people conduct business. It is almost like they are taking advantage without having much to give back and that will make the other countries suffer in the long run. I thought we saw that translate to worldwide inequality. Where only a select few benefit to their highest degree. Others have to struggle to be able to live above mere survival. It raises questions of responsibility. Not just for the rich. but also for the community as well. When laws such as AML (anti-money laundering) or sanctions as you said are implemented. Those laws have a real-world application. But it also implies that those controls are proactive and not just an effective mechanism We're responding to those who act against the system. Many leaders and key people take their eyes off the takeover approach as creativity measures not only my prosperity but also how I think about the lives of others through innovation and equity. It can bring change. But that requires a mindset change. And that takes time.



I don't entirely agree with the fact that among the leadership or the wealthy section, innovation and creativity are totally dead. Indeed, there are definitely some people who are only concerned with profit and luxurious lives, but at the same time, there are more examples of innovation and responsible leadership. In fact, UAE has been upping the ante in chasing financial crimes like money laundering with new laws and high level committees set up to retain transparency within the financial system. A change like this shows that not all men in power are after greed alone but there are some who genuinely work toward the protection of global financial stability.

Also, while it is true that some leaders or tycoons may exploit resources, many others are pushing for green energy initiatives and technological advancements. Countries like the UAE, which up until recently was dependent on oil, is now investing highly in sustainable energy-like solar power. So, even as there is greed in the world, there's equally a push for smarter and more sustainable growth that happens in tandem.

That is a right argument. Of course, not all leaders and wealthy people put fun and profit above everything else. Anyway, there are many examples of such advanced novations and leadership in the modern world. One of the best examples might be the United Arab Emirates. as you said their steps to counteract money laundering and transition to sustainable governance prove that greed is not supported by all oligarchs.

Interestingly, the quest to openness and sustainability appears to be on course with an even broader trend. We recognize that numerous governments and businesses across the world have come to the realization that sustainable prosperity truly revolves around balancing productivity and responsibility. From this transition toward collective power and technology, it goes without saying that many incumbents are indeed aware of the weight of innovation and know how they can position themselves out of such a predicament by innovating more meaningfully for society but instead concentrate only on profits in rapid steps.

And if your idea is to make be the solution to a particular problem then you will make both money and a solution to the whole problem and the people that are designed to just consume don't have anything to give out to people they are meant to consume, we all can not be the same so we just have to choose what part we have to take but the interesting now is that everyone is becoming a producer one way or the other everyone is trying to help them self, things are no longer the same so we have to just get our self to involve to make survive easy.

Very interesting the title of the OP post about the World needs more creators and builders of smart ways, not just consumers when I read it.

Regarding your response, it is quite relevant and allow me to compare it with some current conditions and correlate the facts to this. we see now that many countries in the world have abundant natural resources from God's gift. but it is very unfortunate that they are only spectators and consumers for these products where they can only provide raw materials to be sold. When will it progress if it continues like that in improving the welfare of its people.


You bring up some salient questions-how different countries have different needs. The idea that the world needs more creators of smart solutions goes against the notion of moving from being a pure resource supplier to a creator and innovator. Not just sellers There are many countries having abundance of natural resources, in the best position to export raw materials, but which do not possess the required infrastructure or innovation to produce value-based goods.

This case shows the importance of investing in human resources, education, technology, and creativity so that these countries will come up with industries that are not just taking raw materials, but instead innovating and adding value to these materials. Take this case of the United Arab Emirates, which was rather dependency based on oil as a product. They are slowly diversifying into sectors like finance, technology, and even renewable energy. He argues that the countries can blossom from simple consumers of innovation to innovators and creators of the world through proper leadership and vision.
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And if your idea is to make be the solution to a particular problem then you will make both money and a solution to the whole problem and the people that are designed to just consume don't have anything to give out to people they are meant to consume, we all can not be the same so we just have to choose what part we have to take but the interesting now is that everyone is becoming a producer one way or the other everyone is trying to help them self, things are no longer the same so we have to just get our self to involve to make survive easy.

Very interesting the title of the OP post about the World needs more creators and builders of smart ways, not just consumers when I read it.

Regarding your response, it is quite relevant and allow me to compare it with some current conditions and correlate the facts to this. we see now that many countries in the world have abundant natural resources from God's gift. but it is very unfortunate that they are only spectators and consumers for these products where they can only provide raw materials to be sold. When will it progress if it continues like that in improving the welfare of its people.
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If we see that UK or USA Europe and even switzerland and Monaco been making more strict money laundering rules it show's that There is huge demand of dirty money to entry these banking system so to make it easy for bankers they Made rules.

And now there is russian business and russian related assets restrictions and sanctions are not because of war or morals reasons really or because the biden want to be good person it's because otherwise the banks will be getting like "DDOS attacked" by russian related wealth and there would be not Even 24 hours enough for banks to deal with just 1% of the russian rich tycoons wealth and assets so there is not enough Banks and workers to deal with all that wealth what could come into financial system so in order make sure banks can function well and every customer well served they had to place the restrictions and sanctions otherwise banking and financial services will be over flooded of money and transactions.

Emirates was preparing early to hire more stuff and more Banks in order to handle all that money what was about come in:
The UAE has positioned itself as a financial hub that can accommodate large inflows of foreign capital. In recent years, it has developed its banking sector significantly:

Banking Expansion: Prior to the conflict in Ukraine, the UAE had already established a robust banking infrastructure capable of handling substantial amounts of foreign investment. The country has seen an increase in both local banks and international banks setting up operations within its borders.

Regulatory Environment: The UAE offers a relatively liberal regulatory environment compared to many Western nations. This makes it an attractive destination for individuals looking to move their wealth without facing stringent regulations or scrutiny.

So Western countries knew that they need sanctions otherwise russian wealth will over-flood all their system and there would be no time to serve the regular customers...lol so they made restrictions and sanctions.

Narrowing in on your references to banking, you certainly have an unusual view - that cracking down on illicit money flowing through your financial system is somehow a bad thing. Just because countries like Dubai are willing to overlook the source of the money, does not make them a good banking hub or one to be trusted over the long term. As quick as they are to take in dirty money that might not be accepted elsewhere, they'll probably end up losing it or seizing it unless you happen to be a very big fish that can benefit them over the long term and there are very few of them. It happens quite regularly, these hubs pop up as certain money flows around new laws or crackdowns in old jurisdictions, but it can dry up just as quickly. Look at Hong Kong, it used to be one of the major financial hubs in the world until China ruined it with the CCP overstepping the mark.
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While the prices of things would crash hard if we could just produce more and there are limited amount of consumers for all of it, the way to do it usually happens to be either hiring more people or machinery. If you hire more people, you will have higher costs, and then you will end up not having enough profits when you sell for cheap, hence they go with machinery, these days even AI and robotics help.

So all in all, we can safely assume how this isn't going to be too simple, we are going to face a lot of trouble. So we should just avoid thinking about more creators or less consumers or anything like that and just try to balance the wealth gap between them, nothing more. If we can do that then there are no more problems.
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I don't entirely agree with the fact that among the leadership or the wealthy section, innovation and creativity are totally dead. Indeed, there are definitely some people who are only concerned with profit and luxurious lives, but at the same time, there are more examples of innovation and responsible leadership. In fact, UAE has been upping the ante in chasing financial crimes like money laundering with new laws and high level committees set up to retain transparency within the financial system. A change like this shows that not all men in power are after greed alone but there are some who genuinely work toward the protection of global financial stability.

Also, while it is true that some leaders or tycoons may exploit resources, many others are pushing for green energy initiatives and technological advancements. Countries like the UAE, which up until recently was dependent on oil, is now investing highly in sustainable energy-like solar power. So, even as there is greed in the world, there's equally a push for smarter and more sustainable growth that happens in tandem.
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Woo. Has anyone noticed that the name of OP doesn’t match the post? It’s so long. :O
lol, Shortmaster, but you express yourself in so many words, and not just this because I visited your profile, and there are many other long write-ups, It can be discouraging for many people.

On the topic of having too many consumers and not creators, I don't disagree, I have the opinion that what has contributed to people thinking less in the creative aspect is the fact that there are too many distractions these days that people are focused on. Creativity needs a quiet place, there is too much noise.
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Woo. Has anyone noticed that the name of OP doesn’t match the post? It’s so long. :O



I believe there should be balance in a way but not much that it makes people not do anything. Consumers are the reason why they are doing it in the first place. It’s the profit. I think that the point of having more builders is more innovation would be done but being a consumer is for everyone. You’re a builder and consumer. It’s both worlds.
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The world already has too many producers. Most produce garbish though.
Just look up Facebook, Instagram, TikTok and X-corp, 80 to 90% don't even have a website. They believe that they can convince their prosperous clients via Whatsapp.

What makes the world spin are the carpenters, mechanics, engineers of each trade.
Build a house via a Printer? Not if you are rural. Apart you need people guiding the printer. People who ride the lorry bringing cement.

That happens when people are too much into Social networks, Reality becomes fussy.

What the world needs is the thorough elimination of ignorance.
And more pressing, how to bring the upper 30% to open their pockets and consume more. 
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it is always better to have more producers than consumers we can not even work on that because a lot of people are getting discouraged and they even have ideas to increase the market but no they only want to clear the idea from their heads because they are scared they might not have any support or what so ever take the agricultural sector for example were we have lesser farmers in the industry.  and I bet you that there are 1oo1 ideas but the government doesn't encourage people to show does ideas. true that they have people with the amount of money that they can invest in people's ideas but convincing them to even invest is another thing.

And if your idea is to make be the solution to a particular problem then you will make both money and a solution to the whole problem and the people that are designed to just consume don't have anything to give out to people they are meant to consume, we all can not be the same so we just have to choose what part we have to take but the interesting now is that everyone is becoming a producer one way or the other everyone is trying to help them self, things are no longer the same so we have to just get our self to involve to make survive easy.
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By now we have a lot consumers than real innovation to do things smart ways.
What are the one big problem in the world is that we have a lot people many of them own business are in key positions of countries but they have no skills no innovation and plan to make things smarter but they have greed and they want to live in luxury as possible so they want to use resources in the maximum ways to make them rich more and their families.

We have a lot leaders and people who are rich but they don't innovate but they think there is endless means of resourcoures so they can just take it and spend it.
That's why we have mob kind of mindset becouse when you look into the mob and mafia it's the organisation of people who just takes what's arround them and enjoying the wealth until to the that point when they have all the wealth and all the power but the wealth value start falling in comparsion with global markets with other things maybe with other currencies and assets.
Since mob and Mafia kind of mentality only takes and leaves rest of the society in mess who is not in the mob then soon those mobseters will need to find better place to live becouse corruption and chaos have been killing the economy of country the value of currency and trust from the other countries.

In otherwords our world is like we have so many parasites that's just some humans nature who are eating the hosts out and once the hosts dies they have to find new ones or to join with others because parasite type of humans don't create nothing really they are not even interested of anything Creative but they want to own and use most of the wealth they maybe started as small group of steet mob but once growing bigger they end up creating their own goverments or political agenda.

This is the reason why very skilled and talented workers earn still not enough money to fullfill their needs and to fight with inflation-because there is a lot ambitious people who want to do nothing just to be rich stay rich and keeping their families rich and not much of the skills or some kind of innovation in their minds other than just living in full of Luxury, while they might be associated with dirty business it could bring them lawsuit so more money they make the more money they have to give away so more people they need to cheat and rob legally or half legally and half not legally.
So we have that kind of people in power so much and they consume more then 10 honest and hard working people together can do but yet they don't produce new resources physucally neither even mentally.

And that's why there is rules for money laundering because all those bad guys who get money by not moral ways we still have now days slavery for example dubai been built buy slaves that's not even the secret only the slaves have been not getting paid but the contractors who hired them been paid very well off course.
All of that dirty money in the world only those who could make it legal as possible will have opportunity to clean the money trough banks and legal methods.

If there would't be strong laws of money laundering then the banks would't be have time and resources just to deal with all the customers so only those can be serviced who got atleast some homework done and they meet the money laundering rules ....the AML / money laundering rules are not because to make our world better place it's just taking the work load off the banks because If there would be lax money laundering rules imagine bank will need to be Open 24 hours 7 days Week to deal with all those customers who want to deal with their dirty money.
So the money laundering rules will make just bankers life easy otherwise they will be working 24/7 and still they would't have time to serve most of the customers.
That's why western countries banks tighten up rules and make it not easy for everybody to entry into their system because world is full of dirty money and they all looking for place to park and make it legal.

If we see that UK or USA Europe and even switzerland and Monaco been making more strict money laundering rules it show's that There is huge demand of dirty money to entry these banking system so to make it easy for bankers they Made rules.

And now there is russian business and russian related assets restrictions and sanctions are not because of war or morals reasons really or because the biden want to be good person it's because otherwise the banks will be getting like "DDOS attacked" by russian related wealth and there would be not Even 24 hours enough for banks to deal with just 1% of the russian rich tycoons wealth and assets so there is not enough Banks and workers to deal with all that wealth what could come into financial system so in order make sure banks can function well and every customer well served they had to place the restrictions and sanctions otherwise banking and financial services will be over flooded of money and transactions.

Emirates was preparing early to hire more stuff and more Banks in order to handle all that money what was about come in:
The UAE has positioned itself as a financial hub that can accommodate large inflows of foreign capital. In recent years, it has developed its banking sector significantly:

Banking Expansion: Prior to the conflict in Ukraine, the UAE had already established a robust banking infrastructure capable of handling substantial amounts of foreign investment. The country has seen an increase in both local banks and international banks setting up operations within its borders.

Regulatory Environment: The UAE offers a relatively liberal regulatory environment compared to many Western nations. This makes it an attractive destination for individuals looking to move their wealth without facing stringent regulations or scrutiny.

So Western countries knew that they need sanctions otherwise russian wealth will over-flood all their system and there would be no time to serve the regular customers...lol so they made restrictions and sanctions.

America are happy about trump but he don't do anything new he more keep the old mobsters in power also trump is against Green Energy aswell Smiley
He just very small sighted stibborn person who praise the Putin and kim jon un friend of dictators and supporting the old mentality let the stronger takes all ....but after that wealth value start falling those mobsters will need help of the people who actually create and make new values into society because they can not create or think they just consume and rule until when there is times to change then in order to stay on the top they have to give away huge amount of their wealth to someone who actually create something and have skills and helping them out.
Becouse you can be wealthy and you ruin one country then you ruin second one you start looking the new countries then countries will say we don't want your wealth into our countries you are bad for our reputation so you desperately looking for place for your wealth your money is homeless your home and wealth is homeless and nobody don't want to deal with you openly only by secret deals but then you have to Pay bigger % in order to someone will take your wealth ofc, you try to put this on legal system as much as possible you use proxy states allready corrupted countries or banks but then again you need to pay them some % so they will help your money to move into dream location the every money launder dream destination the usa uk au or canada:) but on this journey since people never be 100% trusted and If you all ready dealing with corrupted countries or banks what will guarantee that they will be trusted they might take your money and steal it in promise to clean it for you....then you have another problems you need to hire the hitman to revenge so that's the another expenses .....and even the hitman " or contract killer could be scam ....lol so to keep your evil empire alive and wealth growing and safe it's a lot work and a lot problems where Sooner or later you will be invloved into violance the violance over the money and wealth and often times the corrupted leaders and mobsters end up killing each others because greed is there first they take from others then they enjoy for little bit then they start sharing it and moving it and then the issues because there is always who will steal from others If wealth is dirty.
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