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March 24, 2020, 02:06:13 AM
#16
I think the virus itself has been astonished about how this instant communications and technology has abled hoomans to tackle it faster than its growth. While I feel sad to stay at home whole day even if I do that all the time by my choice, it's in our hands to rest in home or rest in peace forgetting everything else but the value of human life. Every politics in world has stopped and no issue is greater than this issue today. I guess all incumbent political leaders will just get a green signal in all upcoming elections worldwide automatically.
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March 23, 2020, 05:53:50 PM
#15
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My question is that in your title you write WW5. Did we already have WW3 and WW4 and I didn't even notice?
Yes, but don't worry. I was busy watching Game of Thrones too.

It's not a war despite how a whole lot of people try and turn everything these days into a "war". Nor do I see any sort of coordinated effort. It's mostly been reactions to date as opposed to being out ahead of things. I would consider a coordinated effort having the entire scientific community world wide working together on this with some group overseeing the efforts to ensure there is no duplicated i.e. waster effort and splitting up the various efforts to complete things as quickly as possible. Do we see that? We hear practically squat about any of that which is how this will eventually be beaten. Everything else is just reaction and containment. In other words, all I see is a bunch of chickens with their heads cut off running around spreading panic and fear.

I agree with you there is no formal top-down control, more like a group of planes flying more or less in formation in about the same direction.

As for the panic and fear, there are those who consider playing those cards appropriate for the greater good. Example, agitators on the subject of climate change. Nothing new in that.

@Viper1 though this is not an official war but each and every country’s prime minister, or presidents are terming it as war to make their citizens understand the gravity of the situation, but they’re yet not uniting even in these times is ridiculous.
They're calling it a war in the same way they use fear and panic. It's to manipulate people so they can justify the things to come. It was so easy to get the military out there helping. It was so easy to close the borders. No one bats an eye or even thinks to question it in any way at all. Look at Italy and having to fill paper work out to justify why you're out and about. Much more is coming and then many things will remain after as they'll be able to justify it to people one way or another. Just look at all the shit they did after 9/11. There's already talk and apparently plans (that always existed but have put in a readiness mode) for martial law scenarios. The more you hear them start talking about it, trying to make it sound less scary, the more you know it's likely. Things like this are how they slowly but surely remove freedoms.

Maybe you are correct, maybe you are partially correct, or not correct. It's certainly possible as an outcome. For example, some controller-personality type might promote the tracking of all airline passengers, pre and post flight. Allegedly for reasons of advance prediction of pandemic. Then the data gets used, say, against persons dealing illegal drugs.

I don't know, and you don't know. But your cautioning people on the possible side effects of restrictions on personal liberties is certainly warranted.
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March 23, 2020, 06:16:41 AM
#14
A unique and interesting thing is happening.

Armed by our current level of networking and phones, it's today a matter of choice whether to go to work or school or church, or do the same activities at home. In the past, there was no such choice. With world wide nearly instant communications, peoples' understanding is ahead of the spread of the co19 virus. In the past, people merely reacted much later, after the spread of the germ.

There are measures across the planet to contain, fight and neutralize the virus. This is the first coordinated, world wide war against a virus. But it will not be the last. Isn't it likely that in the future, when another SARS, or another swine flu or bird flu occurs, a very similar thing will happen?

Our new technologies enable effective responses.


A virus such as COVID-19 cannot be beaten by smartphones.
We need an effective vaccine to this thread in order to tackle its spread.
My question is that in your title you write WW5. Did we already have WW3 and WW4 and I didn't even notice?
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March 23, 2020, 01:16:19 AM
#13
The virus is more related to the economy. Someone needs this virus not in order to kill people, but for an economical rearrangement

Bingo.

I'll say that for _this_ one Corbett is probably right about 'how will it end.'  It will just blow over and things will relax and we'll go about life as usual...for a while.  Of course the economic turmoil will have an explanation which holds the banks harmless.  The vast transfers of wealth that this thing has already accomplished will be swept under the rug and much of the kleptocratic infrastructure will remain in idle mode.  Again, 'for a while.'

The biggie is that when the next coronavirus (or whatever they want out of their grab-bag) is rolled out people will not only welcome medical martial law, they will demand it because 'it saved our lives in early 2020'.  Especially the totalitarian Chinese methods which big swaths of the U.S. population will be demanding.

I no longer think they'll roll the micro-chiping or tatoos [or brain aluminum AAHS constellation fingerprint reading] out for 'covid-19'.  We'll likely get it the next time around though.  That could still be 2020 (so Gate's ID2020 project lives up to it's name) and I think that there is a good chance that it will be marketed as a '2nd wave' of some strain of the same virus.  That will give an excuse for why the vaccine is ready.

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March 23, 2020, 12:30:53 AM
#12
It's not a war despite how a whole lot of people try and turn everything these days into a "war". Nor do I see any sort of coordinated effort. It's mostly been reactions to date as opposed to being out ahead of things. I would consider a coordinated effort having the entire scientific community world wide working together on this with some group overseeing the efforts to ensure there is no duplicated i.e. waster effort and splitting up the various efforts to complete things as quickly as possible. Do we see that? We hear practically squat about any of that which is how this will eventually be beaten. Everything else is just reaction and containment. In other words, all I see is a bunch of chickens with their heads cut off running around spreading panic and fear.

I agree with you there is no formal top-down control, more like a group of planes flying more or less in formation in about the same direction.

As for the panic and fear, there are those who consider playing those cards appropriate for the greater good. Example, agitators on the subject of climate change. Nothing new in that.

@Viper1 though this is not an official war but each and every country’s prime minister, or presidents are terming it as war to make their citizens understand the gravity of the situation, but they’re yet not uniting even in these times is ridiculous.
They're calling it a war in the same way they use fear and panic. It's to manipulate people so they can justify the things to come. It was so easy to get the military out there helping. It was so easy to close the borders. No one bats an eye or even thinks to question it in any way at all. Look at Italy and having to fill paper work out to justify why you're out and about. Much more is coming and then many things will remain after as they'll be able to justify it to people one way or another. Just look at all the shit they did after 9/11. There's already talk and apparently plans (that always existed but have put in a readiness mode) for martial law scenarios. The more you hear them start talking about it, trying to make it sound less scary, the more you know it's likely. Things like this are how they slowly but surely remove freedoms.
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March 22, 2020, 10:06:34 PM
#11
It's not a war despite how a whole lot of people try and turn everything these days into a "war". Nor do I see any sort of coordinated effort. It's mostly been reactions to date as opposed to being out ahead of things. I would consider a coordinated effort having the entire scientific community world wide working together on this with some group overseeing the efforts to ensure there is no duplicated i.e. waster effort and splitting up the various efforts to complete things as quickly as possible. Do we see that? We hear practically squat about any of that which is how this will eventually be beaten. Everything else is just reaction and containment. In other words, all I see is a bunch of chickens with their heads cut off running around spreading panic and fear.

I agree with you there is no formal top-down control, more like a group of planes flying more or less in formation in about the same direction.

As for the panic and fear, there are those who consider playing those cards appropriate for the greater good. Example, agitators on the subject of climate change. Nothing new in that.

@Viper1 though this is not an official war but each and every country’s prime minister, or presidents are terming it as war to make their citizens understand the gravity of the situation, but they’re yet not uniting even in these times is ridiculous. @Spendulus panic and fear is normal these days as everyone wishes to live for as long as they can, however politicians are misusing it for their personal gains.
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March 22, 2020, 09:20:38 PM
#10
As for the panic and fear, there are those who consider playing those cards appropriate for the greater good.
Rarely is it used for the "greater good" but instead under the guise of some "greater good". They almost always use it for ulterior negative reasons in order to get things passed that they normally couldn't/shouldn't get done.
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March 22, 2020, 12:06:21 PM
#9
The virus is more related to the economy. Someone needs this virus not in order to kill people, but for an economical rearrangement
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March 22, 2020, 11:43:08 AM
#8
It's not a war despite how a whole lot of people try and turn everything these days into a "war". Nor do I see any sort of coordinated effort. It's mostly been reactions to date as opposed to being out ahead of things. I would consider a coordinated effort having the entire scientific community world wide working together on this with some group overseeing the efforts to ensure there is no duplicated i.e. waster effort and splitting up the various efforts to complete things as quickly as possible. Do we see that? We hear practically squat about any of that which is how this will eventually be beaten. Everything else is just reaction and containment. In other words, all I see is a bunch of chickens with their heads cut off running around spreading panic and fear.

I agree with you there is no formal top-down control, more like a group of planes flying more or less in formation in about the same direction.

As for the panic and fear, there are those who consider playing those cards appropriate for the greater good. Example, agitators on the subject of climate change. Nothing new in that.
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March 22, 2020, 06:18:56 AM
#7
It's not a war despite how a whole lot of people try and turn everything these days into a "war". Nor do I see any sort of coordinated effort. It's mostly been reactions to date as opposed to being out ahead of things. I would consider a coordinated effort having the entire scientific community world wide working together on this with some group overseeing the efforts to ensure there is no duplicated i.e. waster effort and splitting up the various efforts to complete things as quickly as possible. Do we see that? We hear practically squat about any of that which is how this will eventually be beaten. Everything else is just reaction and containment. In other words, all I see is a bunch of chickens with their heads cut off running around spreading panic and fear.
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March 22, 2020, 04:18:58 AM
#6

Our new technologies enable effective responses.

Or this instant communication technologies made worse than how it is supposed to be.People spread lot of news on that 90% if them were fake or their own imagination but still people are getting afraid of this,
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March 21, 2020, 10:48:20 PM
#5
I think it's sort of a battlefield People everywhere the planet are terrified that everybody is jumping to the cure and helping one another out  The virus are going to be a memorable one for humans. That shook the entire world together and everybody is scared of the way to cure it it's an infection everywhere the planet trying to remember of.
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March 15, 2020, 11:42:29 PM
#4
World War V? When did we miss the IV and III ones? Actually, the war against the virus isn't the war.
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March 15, 2020, 08:05:02 PM
#3
its not a war
a war is a armed conflict between different groups to resolve a dispute

before armed conflict. it was called battles. thus the important difference world be the use of military arms in a confict

thus fighting corona is not a war.

also where the main instruction to 'fight' corona is to flee, isolate and hide from it. again does not sound like fighting/conflict words. but more so retreat/exodus

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as for technology.. yes ok for kids to do homework at home for a few weeks. and it may cause families to want to homeschool more.... BUT
when it comes to work. many people are still crucial for human required labour away from the home.
we are not quite at the point of having safe completely automated aeroplane piloting. nor 100% ready for automated taxi's.. definitely not ready for AI nursing/care/doctors.

yes some retailers may use this oppertunity to follow along amazons path of self checkouts to reduce the labour in retail stores. and people may become obsolete in some employment roles. but we definitely are not at the point of completely abolishing all needs of employment.
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March 15, 2020, 07:02:41 PM
#2

There are measures across the planet to contain, fight and neutralize the virus. This is the first coordinated, world wide war against a virus. But it will not be the last. Isn't it likely that in the future, when another SARS, or another swine flu or bird flu occurs, a very similar thing will happen?


Well, we're in a more advanced civilization now compared to where the world was when the SARS, MERS, and other pandemic outbreaks happened before. Thus, it is a must for us (or our government) to resolve this asap with all the advance technologies we have now. I just don't think it's a World War since pandemic outbreaks have already happened before. No one knows, maybe, the virus that's making worldwide chaos right now might have evolved from the viruses in the past outbreaks.

But for me, it's not the technology that will resolve this problem, but it's the UNITY and COOPERATION of all the people around the world.
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March 15, 2020, 08:44:09 AM
#1
A unique and interesting thing is happening.

Armed by our current level of networking and phones, it's today a matter of choice whether to go to work or school or church, or do the same activities at home. In the past, there was no such choice. With world wide nearly instant communications, peoples' understanding is ahead of the spread of the co19 virus. In the past, people merely reacted much later, after the spread of the germ.

There are measures across the planet to contain, fight and neutralize the virus. This is the first coordinated, world wide war against a virus. But it will not be the last. Isn't it likely that in the future, when another SARS, or another swine flu or bird flu occurs, a very similar thing will happen?

Our new technologies enable effective responses.
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