Topic: Would a gamblers statistics in graph and chart form, be of any help? (Read 234 times)

The data may be useful to gamblers who are still aware of their activities, and want to know where his gambling spending at. But for addicts, such info doesn't matter anymore. As they will continue to play despite of what the stats are telling them.
This stats may be helpful to the casino to learn the behaviour of their players and see what games players are devoting their money into. In that case, they can offer more rewards or other promos that will sustain the interest of the players and spend more money into such games.

Every business has their analytics to check their progress and it can be filtered if they want it on a week, a month or a year. That's important for them to see if there's any gain that they're having as they run their operations. Whilst looking at the other side of the fence for the gamblers, if there's a bunch of gamblers that have been losing then that means money and profit for the casino. So, if it's about the benefits then it's mostly only for the casino as a business but for personal matters of the gamblers, I don't see any help for them with that.
The question is, for what? to see if they're progressive or not or they're totally outrageous and addicted already? I see no help with them if they're going to take a look at a stats. Maybe for the daily activity that they have, they can track themselves if they're too active at gambling at all or they're totally doing something to at least lessen their activeness within the casinos that they're gambling with. Otherwise, it's just going to be more of the casinos data that must be recorded and read and that's for business purposes.

Such graphs could have provided detailed data. I have full confidence in scientific data and statistics. However, I don't fully believe that this data can make sense for users. Because people need more to change their addiction. And a gambling addict can only change his bad situation if he gets professional help. In conclusion, I have a positive attitude towards graphs that provide us with detailed data. But I don't think they are useful for people who are addicted to gambling. Gambling addiction is a subject of psychology. Data is the subject of statistics.

I think such statistics can be able to help some gamblers but it can not help every body, there are people who will pay no attention to it, believe me. Gambling companies or casinos will not even add such kind of feature to their platform because they don't really care whether gamblers are addicted or not, casinos want more customers to flood their platforms and as long as it's not a users that is under age they don't have problems with which ever way the individual decided to gamble or the amount the person loss.

I am no so sure about this but I have the feelings that casinos would even want gamblers to get addicted so that they can keep on gambling all the time. 

You overlooked what the OP trying to express here. The chart he is describing is for the gamblers stats so that they can easily analyze their gambling progress to determine whether they are already spending enough or not.

The casino surely have this feature but users doesn’t have this feature on their casino account stats. Casino usually just show numbers instead of graphs for players stats. I believe adding chart can help users track their gambling records especially if there’s specific time frame available to view the charts.

I think it could certainly help to have a tight control over our gambling activity, sure, but we should also recognize such graphs and tools to track our statistics could also turn out to be a very dangerous thing for people who wish to avoid falling into the black out of gambling addiction.
For example, having a curve or a graphic showing the accumulated wager one has versus time could help with control, but it would be very different from having a graph which showed the accumulated losses or the win/losses balance of one through time, in this latter case the graph would not be helping us in any way, shape or form, but they would rather to prompt us to chase losses and be in the green numbers against the casino.

So my final opinion highly depends on the kind of data which is summarized on the graph and the interpretation we give to it.

I don’t know if I got the right comprehension of what you’re trying to say, but if I’m not not wrong, you’re trying to say that, the casinos should make ready some sort of chart and statistics for their customers that might need it at any point in time right ?
And if I’m not wrong, you’re also suggesting that, the statistics will help them keep repairs on how much they’re spending to know if they’re getting addicted or not right ?
I think most casinos already have the option of viewing your bet history from the site and the app and I think this feature can also help the gambler keep track of their games, as well as their wins and losses.

Personally I think, everyone goes into business to gather clients and make profits and having a statistics isn’t a nice move for any casino as these might stop some players from betting further.

what you stated mate is very correct some gamblers are too lazy to review their past games without knowing how important is. Cause through viewing our Graph is we can analyze it and we have a chance that we can know where to stop in gambling cause If we realized that we are little bit far in gambling then we can pause for a while, and take a break then we can continue once we are in condition and we have enough money to loss cause in gambling there's a small chance of winning so if we think that money is you can afford to loss then that's okay to put in our bankroll.

I think that any initiative that is given to improve gambling habits and people who are addicted or about to be addicted would be something great, because basically we have to raise awareness about these things in Schools and everywhere, I personally have always said it, which whether to help people in addiction It is always welcome, and if we Establish a Limit to do things based on statistics by showing graphs, the graphs are very illustrative and will always generate favorable results for any person and that they themselves will be able to see this type of data Because they Understand it faster, for For me it is exceptional and I think that all companies, including casinos, should help with this type of things, at least giving some data and money that can help these types of Initiatives.

It will certainly help because you brought yourself to another level, like you are being serious on what you are doing and you find a way to evaluate your performance. That "graph and chart form" you will create is gonna be your guide in gambling, you'll see if you are profitable or not and sure if you just analyze it well, you'll find a way to improve and eventually win. Not only on the side of winning, because if you experience the other side, you'll know when you stop because by looking at the graph, you can easily spot if you are already bleeding cash.

The problem is the majority of gamblers do not want to look at their charts or they are too lazy to do so, this will just verify that they need to stop if they are gambling too much something they don't want because they still enjoy the game.

Graph and chart forms can help professionals to help their patients with the kind of treatment they should give to their patients.

Casinos should have something like this that their players can download to see how they behave in the casinos, and if are they spending too much of their time and money, this is a big help for their addiction recovery if ever they want to stop their addiction.

This! And this means that even if the casino implement such feature, it may still not guarantee that the addict gambler will stop from playing and even if they force them to do so, they will still find a way to play via other casinos.

Some casinos are confident of implementing such feature for the said reason and this can make them look good in the eyes of those concerned about gambling addiction. The example you use there sounds pretty scary but I think that's true. Some people won't care about the others only for their own sake. Casinos doesn't need to pray because their system is already making their dreams come true and being greedy to take more advantage is not good anymore. It only makes people to avoid them.

Nah, I don't think that gamblers will be interested on that kind of graphs and whatnot.

What gamblers are basically interested is if they are going to win or not or how much they are going to get. So it won't curb the addiction of individuals. For a gambling site to present this complicated numbers to the gambler? I don't think that they are going to bat an eyelash, just saying.

The closest data that they can give us is the Win/Loss record, that's it.

It would certainly help, yes!

We often look at the numbers and don't have the real dimension of how much money we are losing, because our eyes will always focus more on the money we gained and never on what we lost.
However, when lines and bars gain more emphasis than numbers, it is easier to have a global view of performance at a given time and that is where many players can have a real idea of their performance.

A long time ago, there was a time when I documented my gains and losses every day in a spreadsheet that automatically converted it into a graph... it was really good.
But over time I got lazy and didn't register anything anymore.

In any case, it would be nice if websites made this feature available.

Honestly you do you but in my opinion, any form of data that is interpretable and is able to be translated into something that would resemble an action plan is much better than having none at all, so if you're one to spare entire evenings tallying wins and losses as well other modifiers that would be vital to your research, then go for it. But speaking from experience, the only thing that you would ever really need is a raw data sheet of how many times you've won, how many times you've lost, and how much you've gained and lost for each bet.

I do this all the time as part of my budgeting pan, as even though my gambling bankroll's separate from my daily expenses I still make sure I don't go all out and bust the whole thing in a single session, in there, I check on the average just how much I win and lose on my favorite casino (and this part's a little important since every casino's got a different house-edge, knowing or having a hint of just how much that is for you is vital for this plan to work) and from there, make an action plan that would determine just how many times I could play to either make sure I bag a win, or that I don't splurge all my money on a single night.

There's beauty and wisdom in simplicity, and you're not about to show just how much you're losing on gambling to a list of shareholders anyway so why trouble yourself with that when you could just plug the numbers on excel and let its formula thing do the work for you?

When I play at stake, I open up my stats page and it shows a very concise graph of my recent bets. And you can also download statistics on your profitability or view your detailed gamble history.
It's good to have access to all this data about yourself because some casinos might think people will be inclined to bet more if they make it harder for their players to access their own data.

So yeah, prefer to play at casinos that make it easier to track your stats. These casinos have access to all your history so why not just give it to you? Casinos that have very good tracking are out there, so might as well play at one of them or also use the other ones to embrace stats tracking.

I don't see that as a way of reducing gambling addiction instead you put yourself in more jeopardy. It's just like knowing you have HIV and AIDS and there is no way you can cure it, it begins to dry you up. Meaning that sometimes if you know the root cause of your problem is either you change from what you do and adjust yourself to leave a healthier life or begin thinking much about it, which may take up somebody's life earlier than expected. So there is no point having a graph 📈 or statistics of how to regulate those activities.

I think it can help at some point. From there, they can evaluate their experience in gambling if they have been doing good so far or they are only losing majority of their bets. Although I would say they’re probably aware of that already, but it’s still a different thing when they see it visibly with their own two eyes. If they want to change their strategy in gambling, well those statistics can really help.

But one thing is certain, if the gambler itself is not willing to admit his weakness in gambling, then he will never be the gambler that he aims to be. Yes, he might still be winning at times, but most likely he is losing most of the time. And that’s what happening to mostly gamblers these days, the reason why they become easily get prone to gambling addiction.

Most casinos have basic statistics which may well be the basis for drawing conclusions. The question is whether the gambler wants to fight his addiction. As for the graphs, I don’t think they will be useful, maybe the opposite. Look at fans of technical analysis - these are completely addictive people: in price charts they are looking for some kind of miracle patterns that will help them see the future, haha. I would not be surprised if some gamblers, on the charts that the casino will provide, will look for “signals” that they will soon win or “signals” how to place bets 

Showing the statistics of our gambling activities over a certain time is a good way to help us know whether we are becoming addicted to gambling or we are just too slow. This is one of the tools some few Casinos do have and they always check whether a gambler is becoming an addict and try to help them where it is possible so that they don't become too addicted to gambling. Gambling is a form of trying our luck to win bets. There are still people that can control themselves and help things so that they don't become too addicted to gambling in which over way. If we know that gambling is becoming a problem to us, it is better we look for ways to help us avoid too much gambling.

You are very correct with the point you made and it's good to acknowledge that you understand that most gambling addictions ain't just because the customer can't control themselves, but because they don't have any support in form of such data or breaks or tools to track spending from the sites or casinos they visit.

The gambling houses and sites seem to want more money from the gamblers pocket and as such, the most visiting customer gets a reward or bonus for good patronage.

This will depend on how the user  interpret it, tracking one's performance or the rate at which he gambles will only propel him to gamble more because he will want to perform higher and not underperform looking at the chart.

Gambling can only be resolved when one has taken a decision to curb it,not chart or any stats. It requires discipline, Addiction is a psychological issue and should be treated as such not by representation. 

In essence I don't think would be of any help. Someone who is addicted to something can come up with a different interpretation of anything just to fulfil his desire at that moment. And the chart or data stat won't restrict the user so what's the use then.

It a matter of self-reflection, realization, decision and discipline on the side of the gambler.

No, I dont think so. Addiction is a psychological - the numbers dont lie, but they dont get to the heart of things either.  Sure, charts might show what someones blowing at the tables or slot machines.  But that cash spent doesnt scratch the itch for more. and  people with gambling problem justify anything when they are riding high or trying to catch the next wave.  Datas just data - it doesnt speak to the soul.  For that, you need understanding compassion.

I think, while these tools can support awareness, they are not a cure-all. The effectiveness of such measures would also depend on the individual’s openness to recognizing and acting upon the information presented. For those deeply struggling with addiction, professional help might still be necessary. Overall, it’s a positive step towards more responsible gambling and could be part of broader strategies to support users in maintaining control over their gambling habits.

What I think is that gamblers data and its statistics are only good and will be effective for decision and policy makers. It will help them to create policies and strategies to find a solution to underaged gambling, illegal gambling, gambling addiction and others too.

As for the gambler, I do not see any effectiveness in this. There are people who cannot interprete charts. If you live in a country where the bulk of people gambling are those who have education below the tertiary level, of what use will this be when they do not understand it.

I believe it could be a valid solution. Definitely yes. If you loss money you can just start a new gambling limit....
An approach like this can help both evaluate previous plays but also to maximize future ones.
For example, if I realize that I am losing some bets on a certain sport, I avoid continuing to play it. maybe focusing in other bets or other sports.
this act of "writing" your own bets/state the current situation, is one of those pieces of advice that is given precisely to maximize your profits in other economic areas too...

maybe, maybe not, I mean, it could make a gambler realize that they are spending too much time and too much money gambling and decide to limit their gambling habits or completely stop gambling after seeing their gambling history, but some could just completely ignore the chart/graphs or if their profit is showing that they are in the negative, use it as a way to motivate themselves that they need to gamble more in order to break even or be in profit. in the end, the decision to change depends on the gambler.

anyway, casinos having a graph or chart showing a gambler's betting history, wins, losses, etc.. is a great feature to have and as far as I know, a lot of casinos have this feature but not in graph or chart form.

Some betting sites probably have tools to track spending, but come on - an addict ain't gonna suddenly reform just because of a fancy graph.  Theyll either ignore it or use it to rationalize chasing losses. 

If casinos actually wanna help gambling addicts, they gotta give them ways to self-impose limits.  Maybe let them set deposit caps or take breaks from sites.  Stuff like that, you know? Numbers don't cure addiction; self-control does.  And sometimes addicts need assists with self-control.

The idea is quite an innovative one but I don't think casinos (online casinos) would love to include such features to their websites as they might be thinking that it's a way to loss customers who gambles on a regular.

If such a idea is bought, it will surely help the conscious gamblers who are responsible enough to control how they gamble, ones they see that they are loosing too much they will quit and try to re-strategize how they gamble the next time hence it could lead to a more responsible gambling habit or pull some people out of addiction. But that will be if there is already a measure or an analysis of how an addiction can be observed because some people might not be addicted but loss regularly or win regularly so it's going to be a tough time determining how addiction can be described or measured.

Casinos do offer viewing the profile progress of user in chart form and others show in different graphics but we can track our progress for sure on every casino then why we still have people addicted to gambling?

It can help us to track our profits and loss but I don't think it will be helpful in dealing with addictions at all.

your idea has a lot of merit.
Graphs and charts can make abstract numbers more concrete, showing trends and patterns that might not be obvious otherwise. For someone who gambles, seeing a visual representation of how often they gamble, how much they spend, and whether those numbers are trending upwards could be a wake-up call. It could help them recognize problematic patterns in their behavior early on.

Moreover, providing such data could also align with responsible gambling practices, where transparency and tools for self-regulation are crucial. It might not only help individual users but could also serve as a demonstration of good faith by gambling platforms, showing that they are committed to preventing gambling addiction.

As Sunderland mentioned, some of them do have it, you need to look around even further to find your stats, but they rarely have the ones with graphs or charts. They'd only provide the numbers, and IMO that's enough to help you look back at your losses.

I always think providing stats is a good feature in a gambling site and helpful against addiction because I remember mentioning a similar solution that helped me tone down my budget. Also, it makes tracking more convenient if you have a spreadsheet.

I don't think they will want to add such features even if it may help to monitor ones activity in gambling. Casinos and gaming sites usually makes more money when players makes lots of bet. So weather a user is becoming addicted and wanting to stop depends on his abilities to control and monitor himself. The casinos will never want to stop you from gambling because if they do that, how then will they make their profit. Just think of it as a business where they sell coffins, thy would pray for people to die so they can make sales. Same with the casinos, they will pray that players makes losses so they can profit from it.

No, why the casino need to offer something that could harm themselves?

Casinos make money from people who're loss, if they offer something that make the gamblers reduce or quit their gambling activity, they won't able to earn as much as possible.

If they can remove "self exclusion" feature, they would remove it, unfortunately they're forced to have it due to regulations.

Graphs and chart will be giving you the statistics of gamblers using the casino everyday, and how many won, and how many lost. It cannot be on individuals gambling statistics that uses the casino everyday . However, some gamblers don't use only one casino as they gamble from casino to casino based on bonuses and promotions.

I don't even think if it will be of any help to gamblers, if it contains the gamble habits of individual, because some gamblers don't care to re-access their gambling activities, and some are after profit, and they will keep on chasing their losses since they want to use gamble to make a fortune. It is not easy for an addicted person to stop gambling through this way.

The best thing is to have a gamble budget, maybe 5% of your income, and also have a time limit for your gambling activities.

I'm sure mostly of the existing casino websites or casino applications have this kind of feature wherein a gambler can see its history plays, stakes, or bets, but the thing is, it is for sure being ignored, especially for those who lost their self-control and their awareness of themselves. Well, it can't be helped, but for those who lose track of their activities in gambling, this could be a really big help for them. They can see their activities in detail, and a user can modify the result based on what the user wants to know. But sadly, we know that this is less viewed by a gambler; for sure, they would not mind looking at it because, for them, as long as they have money or funds to stake or play, they will not stop. Maybe if they are already applied, they will issue a warning if the system detects that the gambler is wasting too much money in a short time.

There are several casinos that already have features like that, usually located in the transactions or profile section.
I think the statistics/charts like that cannot become a reference that someone is addicted to gambling or not, and many gamblers actually dont really care about such features.
In fact, a feature like that can actually encourage someone to chasing the previous losses.

I think it can be helpful but the graphs and data must be presented in a way that it can clearly see the distinction between a gambler suffering from addiction and from a normal person.

If the graphs are well explained to the point that even a five year old can understand, then it can be helpful to a certain extent. The problem here is actually getting the attention of these gamblers and on their personal decision to commit in resolving their problems. Even with the best guide, support, and methods, if the gambler does not want to commit and to start helping himself/herself, then all efforts would be nugatory.


Any kind of support/improvement on the quality of life of an addict is always welcomed. Even if it may be difficult for them to stop, if they see actual data that explains clearly the statistics of people suffering from addiction and their corresponding rates linked to suicide/depression, then it can help them snap back to reality and commit in helping themselves.

As far as I know, the data in statistics or graphs is not to control someone to become a gambler or stop gambling. However, this is to serve as information on how many gamblers there are according to surveys or company data. This data can be used by the government to anticipate an increase in the number of underage gamblers, but not to control it completely, because it is the individual who must be responsible.

Data is also used by corporations or gambling companies to improve services or to limit services. company will not provide information to users if they are addicted to gambling through its platform, because that is not their responsibility. Of course the company will not prevent this from happening because they only provide the platform. Companies usually disclose user information and average time spent on their platforms for public information. Either in the form of a release document or release blog post.

Basically yes. This would help them be aware of how they are doing as they gamble. Actually it is really a problem not knowing such aspect; tendency is for them to continue betting out of frustration because they are unconscious of the amount they are losing already, then the moment they knew, they have nothing left with them (in worse case scenarios). Statistics and numbers won't fail you to be organized. Effeciency with betting is what gamblers need to not cross their line of tolerance in both winning and losing situations. In such way emotions won't have a room to take over you whether to continue playing or not.

Problem with this is that, not all gamblrs are into such thing; some are too lazy to track it for themselves and same thing goes even if there will be a tool or app to help them if they won't have the initiative to apply it to themselves.

This is obvious, as far as I know about the operations of some gambling service platforms, they always have their own team in charge of this issue. With attracting customers, overcoming old problems,... similar to many other things in life, there are statistics to see the activities in their business. In the most specific case, you can calculate the average amount of money from customers so they can know the revenue of the service.

No, this may only help a gambler to see the image of himself from how he has been involved with gambling and how addicted or often he gambles, this may have nothing to do by influencing his decision on gambling addiction, some may even see such and express joy that they have been having nice and steady performance in gambling over time and not seeing such as a pattern telling them on how addicted they were in gambling, this may determine on how the gambler interpret such result, if he thinks there should be a need for an improvement or not.

Would a data showing the users statistics in graph and chart form, comparing ones gambling habit over a duration, help to curb gambling addiction or enforce strict control?

If graphs, charts and diagrams could help a company or startup to project and know the progress the company or business has made annually or periodically, with concise economic details and investment as well as returns, then don't you think gambling and betting sites should have such user statistics presented in chart form and readily available upon just a click, to the user, so that it helps them know if they have become addicted knowingly or unknowingly and as such, gain control over their gambling or betting habits?

What do you think?