Would you Bet on a Fight that is Scripted?

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Quote from: goaldigger on March 09, 2023, 04:06:27 PM

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I like WWE but I don't like to bet on its matches because they're all scripted. That's why it's made for entertainment and that's why even during my childhood it made me believe that everything there is real. But not until I become grown up and understand the meaning of WWE.
It is no sense to me to bet on matches that even if it is scripted, I still don't know who's going to win on it. And that's why you rarely see matches on bookies with it because even if it's a sport, it's also entertainment that's attached to it, it's not a competitive sport, unlike the others.

Many thought WWE is a real one not until we saw a lot of news about it being a scripted movie just for the purpose of entertainment. Well, its hard to tell if you have the right source so its risky to bet and honestly,

I was also one of those boys that have believed that WWE is a real thing. I think about the source based on the OP, it says that they're the actual source the management itself so that's not going to be a questionable thing if ever they're now allowed to put their matches into bookies.

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honestly, WWE didn’t entertain me anymore since the exit of my childhood star like The Undertaker. If you are going to bet on this, make sure that you are ready for the risk.

That's okay, we became grown-ups and that's why there's no more flavor in watching wrestling matches. But it had added a lot of nice experiences watching it and made our childhood colorful. Those retirements that we've been seeing from our childhood heroes, that also signifies that they're not just the only one that's growing older but also us.

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Quote from: Kemarit on March 10, 2023, 04:33:01 PM

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This doesn't in any way look viable. There's no way you can keep the outcome of the match from leaking. Even information from organizations and agencies that their M.O. is secrecy still gets leaked. There are too many loopholes to exploit in this. The outcome of the match is known in the organization weeks or days to the match. You cant keep these kind of things a secret for that long, it would certainly come out to the public one way or the other. Lets assume they can contain it somehow and makes sure it doesn't leak, how do the handle the people in the organization that have access to this information? They would definitely want to exploit the opportunity and make the most out of it.

Well the point is that some 3rd party are going to handle the outcome of the match in secrecy and most likely the people involved are going to sign NDA to prevent anything from leaking into the public.

Nevertheless, as others have said, when we are young, we love WWF (as it was known before), and we become fans of it and it become a part of our childhold days. But I will not going to bet on the fight that is scripted though. Might as well put my money on other sports betting.

Too sad to know that our favorite WWE is scripted even without any official statement about this, rumors seems more reliable and true. So probably every fighter have signed the NDA or else that show was ruined already, and viewers might not watch it anymore. I also not prefer to bet on a fight light this, where the opposite result can happen any time, even if you have a trusted insider, it is still risky to follow that signal not unless you'll bet with his money as well.

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Quote from: harapan on March 10, 2023, 04:24:15 PM

This doesn't in any way look viable. There's no way you can keep the outcome of the match from leaking. Even information from organizations and agencies that their M.O. is secrecy still gets leaked. There are too many loopholes to exploit in this. The outcome of the match is known in the organization weeks or days to the match. You cant keep these kind of things a secret for that long, it would certainly come out to the public one way or the other. Lets assume they can contain it somehow and makes sure it doesn't leak, how do the handle the people in the organization that have access to this information? They would definitely want to exploit the opportunity and make the most out of it.

Well the point is that some 3rd party are going to handle the outcome of the match in secrecy and most likely the people involved are going to sign NDA to prevent anything from leaking into the public.

Nevertheless, as others have said, when we are young, we love WWF (as it was known before), and we become fans of it and it become a part of our childhold days. But I will not going to bet on the fight that is scripted though. Might as well put my money on other sports betting.

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This doesn't in any way look viable. There's no way you can keep the outcome of the match from leaking. Even information from organizations and agencies that their M.O. is secrecy still gets leaked. There are too many loopholes to exploit in this. The outcome of the match is known in the organization weeks or days to the match. You cant keep these kind of things a secret for that long, it would certainly come out to the public one way or the other. Lets assume they can contain it somehow and makes sure it doesn't leak, how do the handle the people in the organization that have access to this information? They would definitely want to exploit the opportunity and make the most out of it.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on March 10, 2023, 08:31:03 AM

It's possible I'd bet the scripted fight but avoid placing big bets because that comes with the risk of losing money should the scenario change. Or if I didn't know the fighter, I wouldn't place the bet and would rather enjoy some other entertainment that doesn't cost money. But there are many options that people can choose from and usually, they will place big bets because there is already a guarantee that the fighter will win in that fight.

Well, it's actually up to the bettors because they are the ones who will determine whether they want to place a bet, just skip it or just watch the fight. But it is a fraud where we are guaranteed to win and we don't know what the return of the information will be to the informant.

Scripted fight or not, it's always advised to bet smaller amounts if you are not familiar with the contestants involved. Any sports is still entertaining with or without betting involved but people only do bets on them to make extra money. They are turning their hobby into a profitable activity.

There are people who enjoy scripted or exhibition matches but for me I think I will enjoy those fights who are natural. They are also more exciting to watch because each players are giving their best in order to win the competition. This is usually the type of match that I will like to place a bet but I will first track the player's record so that I can increase my winning chance.

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Quote from: Finestream on March 10, 2023, 05:37:15 AM

Quote from: livingfree on March 09, 2023, 05:42:04 PM

It is inevitable that results might be leaked especially those that are working for them. They can't just guarantee that even if there will be FEDs involve, they just can't help if money is involved with it.

The fact that it is scripted and promising that they won't leak the result is already vague. That's an odd promise to be said as there's something that would be pursued once it's allowed.

It's easy money for them and the management will surely take advantage of it. Well, they might just go to Vegas and do the fights there. Tongue

There will always be high chances that results will eventually come out in the public, no matter how they promised to the audience that everything will not be leaked. Everyone wants to make an income of it especially for those greedy operators so it won’t be surprising at all if audience has already anticipated who’s the winner in the end. However, when it comes to betting on this type of scripted game, to be honest i don’t see it exciting anymore.

If it's just a promise and there's no punishment for any breach of contract then they can commit "mistakes" anytime as they wish. We all aware of the gambling industry is a big money industry and that's why any opportunity that can be seen either by gamblers, management and other people related to the business, they'll take it.

Quote from: Finestream on March 10, 2023, 05:37:15 AM

Gone are the days where we think this WWE is real and not scripted, but now that we know that everything is being faked, betting on it is like useless anymore. It’s more on an entertainment actually, no need to place an actual bet.

It's because that they've been exposed and they said that they're scripted so, people are assuming every match they do is already scripted. But true that I miss those days when I was still a kid and believes everything I see there.

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Quote from: goinmerry on March 10, 2023, 01:27:54 PM

Actually, no. There is no manipulation because the match is not even live. Results are already determined prior to that match to be listed on whatever bookies will list it. It means people who are not aware of the result of that scripted match will guess who's the winner of the match even if it's scripted. A guessing game indeed.

Not that interesting though for us usual bettors here that only place a bet on a legit match.

It was discussed before here that there's a bookie that lists WWE matches. Just remember that considered betting on that only for entertainment.

I thought of it being live and when they're looking at the live odds and details of most bets in bookies, they can alter the result based on what's favoring them and the house.

But if it's a pre-recorded match, it's certainly a guessing game but those staff and people that had a glance of that result during the recording session, they will surely not gonna miss any single bet for that match even if the odds will be too little.

The purpose is certainly for entertainment but still, there's an entry for taking advantage from those people that knows the actual result and it can't be helped.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on March 09, 2023, 11:08:34 AM

Everything about WWE is scripted since I know about them, the matches look fake to me at times and it is not what I can go for. I will prefer to for boxing instead which is real. I can never bet on wresting like WWE.

For the real life matches in sport, we have so many options that we can just go for instead of the wrestling that is only meant for entertainment, not for betting for me when I have real life ones that can even take away my whole day if I want it to be like that.

It's funny but most WWE wrestlers get angry when you mention "fake fights". I remember that back in the day Hulk Hogan was always offended by it, even though it was true. There were some real hits made of course and some wrestlers broke limbs or even their backs, but it can be compared to what stunt men are doing in movies. They also get injured but they know what's going to happen and the goal is not to get injured but make a good show.

I wouldn't bet on that. It doesn't make sense to me since fighters know who will win before the match starts.

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Quote from: virasisog on March 10, 2023, 11:12:16 AM

WWE is entertaining to watch but I think they will only take advantage of their bettors by manipulating the whole gameplay so I'd rather just watch it for fun than bet big.

Actually, no. There is no manipulation because the match is not even live. Results are already determined prior to that match to be listed on whatever bookies will list it. It means people who are not aware of the result of that scripted match will guess who's the winner of the match even if it's scripted. A guessing game indeed.

Not that interesting though for us usual bettors here that only place a bet on a legit match.

It was discussed before here that there's a bookie that lists WWE matches. Just remember that considered betting on that only for entertainment.

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It's possible I'd bet the scripted fight but avoid placing big bets because that comes with the risk of losing money should the scenario change. Or if I didn't know the fighter, I wouldn't place the bet and would rather enjoy some other entertainment that doesn't cost money. But there are many options that people can choose from and usually, they will place big bets because there is already a guarantee that the fighter will win in that fight.

Well, it's actually up to the bettors because they are the ones who will determine whether they want to place a bet, just skip it or just watch the fight. But it is a fraud where we are guaranteed to win and we don't know what the return of the information will be to the informant.

I myself actually have different assumptions and opinions from yours because I would never want to bet on such a fight even if I only used a smaller amount of money.
Bets on battles that are written have such a big risk because in that battle there must be a lot of manipulation that will only benefit one party and make many gamblers lose and lose their bet money.
We bet with the aim of getting big profits and of course we will make bets with the amount of bets we can afford and with a slightly larger amount too so it's better to bet on matches or fights that we can only rely on so we can predict easily and can win the bet.
If indeed the fight is only for entertainment and looking for fun it is better to just watch it without having to get involved in the bets that have been provided.

WWE is entertaining to watch but I think they will only take advantage of their bettors by manipulating the whole gameplay so I'd rather just watch it for fun than bet big. I would prefer betting with smaller amounts just for fun because we can take WWE seriously since they're full of drama and scripts. It's better to enjoy it without having the doubt of losing because a scripted or manipulated sports is actually unpredictable because the result might depend on the number of bets.

Maybe when we were kids, it was fun to watch the masked jokers but the fights are not really real.
When a big guy punches a person straight to his face, in real life it's going to be bloody. If you are skinny and in a position against the big guy, you would know you are no match against him that's the reality.

It wouldn't be surprising to see a lot of upsets in WWE fights that even the tiniest can win over a Brock Lesnar type.

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It's possible I'd bet the scripted fight but avoid placing big bets because that comes with the risk of losing money should the scenario change. Or if I didn't know the fighter, I wouldn't place the bet and would rather enjoy some other entertainment that doesn't cost money. But there are many options that people can choose from and usually, they will place big bets because there is already a guarantee that the fighter will win in that fight.

Well, it's actually up to the bettors because they are the ones who will determine whether they want to place a bet, just skip it or just watch the fight. But it is a fraud where we are guaranteed to win and we don't know what the return of the information will be to the informant.

I myself actually have different assumptions and opinions from yours because I would never want to bet on such a fight even if I only used a smaller amount of money.
Bets on battles that are written have such a big risk because in that battle there must be a lot of manipulation that will only benefit one party and make many gamblers lose and lose their bet money.
We bet with the aim of getting big profits and of course we will make bets with the amount of bets we can afford and with a slightly larger amount too so it's better to bet on matches or fights that we can only rely on so we can predict easily and can win the bet.
If indeed the fight is only for entertainment and looking for fun it is better to just watch it without having to get involved in the bets that have been provided.

WWE is entertaining to watch but I think they will only take advantage of their bettors by manipulating the whole gameplay so I'd rather just watch it for fun than bet big. I would prefer betting with smaller amounts just for fun because we can take WWE seriously since they're full of drama and scripts. It's better to enjoy it without having the doubt of losing because a scripted or manipulated sports is actually unpredictable because the result might depend on the number of bets.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on March 10, 2023, 08:31:03 AM

It's possible I'd bet the scripted fight but avoid placing big bets because that comes with the risk of losing money should the scenario change. Or if I didn't know the fighter, I wouldn't place the bet and would rather enjoy some other entertainment that doesn't cost money. But there are many options that people can choose from and usually, they will place big bets because there is already a guarantee that the fighter will win in that fight.

Well, it's actually up to the bettors because they are the ones who will determine whether they want to place a bet, just skip it or just watch the fight. But it is a fraud where we are guaranteed to win and we don't know what the return of the information will be to the informant.

I myself actually have different assumptions and opinions from yours because I would never want to bet on such a fight even if I only used a smaller amount of money.
Bets on battles that are written have such a big risk because in that battle there must be a lot of manipulation that will only benefit one party and make many gamblers lose and lose their bet money.
We bet with the aim of getting big profits and of course we will make bets with the amount of bets we can afford and with a slightly larger amount too so it's better to bet on matches or fights that we can only rely on so we can predict easily and can won the bet.
If indeed the fight is only for entertainment and looking for fun it is better to just watch it without having to get involved in the bets that have been provided.

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It's possible I'd bet the scripted fight but avoid placing big bets because that comes with the risk of losing money should the scenario change. Or if I didn't know the fighter, I wouldn't place the bet and would rather enjoy some other entertainment that doesn't cost money. But there are many options that people can choose from and usually, they will place big bets because there is already a guarantee that the fighter will win in that fight.

Well, it's actually up to the bettors because they are the ones who will determine whether they want to place a bet, just skip it or just watch the fight. But it is a fraud where we are guaranteed to win and we don't know what the return of the information will be to the informant.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on March 09, 2023, 11:01:04 AM

Would you bet on a fight that is scripted even with the promise that the outcome will not be leaked to the public before the match ends? What is the ethical consideration is this case? Well this is the new information regarding the WWE about to explore this new type of betting option. You can read a part of the news quoted below and make your comments.

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WWE Keen to Explore Betting on Scripted Fights as an Option
But if the states were to clear this type of betting, that would only raise integrity concerns observers believe, as the outcomes of fights would be known and the possibility of a leak – high. WWE is reportedly working with Ernst & Young, an accountancy firm, to prove that the results of such fights would not be known to the public beforehand nor that they would leak out of the organizaiton.

Ernst & Young has previously advocated for the legalization of Academy Awards betting, and worked to keep the results a secret, proving that it’s possible to know an outcome beforehand and still have a fair betting market on the activity. WWE is of a similar mind, as the Oscars are already supported as betting markets in some places in the country, so why would sportsbooks hesitate to offer WWE fights, which are a form of entertainment for the most part rather than a pure athletic contest?

No official comment has been made by WWE officials to further elaborate on the situation, but Colorado has already denied the rumors. The Colorado Division of Gaming spoke to CNBC and briefly said that it had no intention of allowing betting on WWE matches as of right now. Legalizing WWE fights as viable betting events is not a stretch, however.

https://www.gamblingnews.com/news/wwe-wants-to-launch-gambling-on-scripted-fights-in-colorado-michigan/

LOL, WWE is already scripted to the core. Sometimes it's just hilarious to watch the fighters literally act in the ring.
I would definitely not place any bet if it were in such scripted fights.
Besides that, what's the point if one already knows the outcome of the match. Why would anyone bet in such a match anyway ?

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Betting on a scripted fight is not only extremely boring but its not even gambling, really. Its like that old game you play with kids where they guess which hand is holding the candy behind their back. A mean adult might even switch hands to win, every time.

Same thing with scripted "fights". Although I would not call them fights. Scripted means there is no real fight, no real action. So its not even a sport, as far as I can tell. Just a swindle.

But maybe some people like to bet on "who is planned to be the winner". 50/50 chance to get the right one, after all.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on March 09, 2023, 11:01:04 AM

Would you bet on a fight that is scripted even with the promise that the outcome will not be leaked to the public before the match ends? -snip-

I wouldn't bet on such fights from the WWE. The fact that these fights are scripted just takes the fun out of betting on them. Also, in my opinion, it allows too much cheating. The organizers can preview the quettes and finish the fight the way they need it to make a big profit. Sure, it's debatable if they would actually do it, but the possibility still exists. Sad

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on March 09, 2023, 11:01:04 AM

Would you bet on a fight that is scripted even with the promise that the outcome will not be leaked to the public before the match ends?

My answer is "Yes", but only for entertainment purposes using small money, I would not bet big money with very high risk of losing. Sometimes it's very entertaining to see how WWE plays the drama they create for their wrestlers. But I'm sure that if they make bets on their matches, there won't be a lot of people betting there, I personally also can't be sure they'll stick with the initial scenario if the betting on a particular wrestler is really heavy.

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What the hell was WWE? Do you mean the American Wrestling Federation?
American wrestling is entertainment, not actual sport. Betting on scripted fights is like betting on the outcome of some Hollywood movie. Grin

Total nonsense, if you ask me. It seems like the people, who are running the American Wrestling Federation want to squeeze more money out of the rednecks, who are watching this "wrestling" BS. I used to be a fan of WWE 20 years ago, when I was a dumb kid/teenager. Now I can't watch WWE fights without feeling the cringe. Grin

Only kid/teenagers/redneck enjoy this kind of circus. I would never bet any money on scripted fights. This is ridiculous.

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No, I won't bet on this.
I am a fan of WWE back when I was a kid but not anymore ever since I realized it was all scripted. The Rock, Stonecold Steve Austin, Mankind, X-pac, Triple H, and more, you name it, all are still in my memory especially that cage match with Mick Foley.
It's entertainment only and they can bend the situations if ever the management feels like the fans are not on the hype anymore. They put rivalries, villains, or other stuff. But betting on it is way far from reality and I sincerely doubt there will be patrons on that betting line. (Not that I am against scripted entertainment)

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on March 09, 2023, 06:35:03 PM

Quote from: n0ne on March 09, 2023, 06:28:27 PM

It is something same as the fixed match. Why to spend on something that is being already planned and the outcome is decided. I never prefer such kind of bets. Even to watch those matches were I feel bad, because over exaggeration takes place. In no time results change.

In the past we had the SmackDown and Raw, now the same is happening in the name of different names. I'm not sure whether all these are same or different. However the importance of have got over the real fight is nil.

if you know that it is only scripted, the thrill on betting is the fact that the audience doesn't know the outcome of the match. but we don't know if the people behind it are taking advantage of knowing what the results are. they can easily relay it to one of their friends or colleagues so they can place a bet. who knows right?

Adding to what n0nce said, football is not scripted, but fixed match exists in football. What more is expected of a scripted game assuring players and audiences that they won't leak the outcome of the game. It's not possible, if gambling shifts to WWE and yields a plethora of high roller players they won't have any option other than revealing the hidden results to top stakers for more profits. Using Soccer as an example, I can't get convinced about their promises. It's funny.

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Quote from: livingfree on March 09, 2023, 05:42:04 PM

It is inevitable that results might be leaked especially those that are working for them. They can't just guarantee that even if there will be FEDs involve, they just can't help if money is involved with it.

The fact that it is scripted and promising that they won't leak the result is already vague. That's an odd promise to be said as there's something that would be pursued once it's allowed.

It's easy money for them and the management will surely take advantage of it. Well, they might just go to Vegas and do the fights there. Tongue

There will always be high chances that results will eventually come out in the public, no matter how they promised to the audience that everything will not be leaked. Everyone wants to make an income of it especially for those greedy operators so it won’t be surprising at all if audience has already anticipated who’s the winner in the end. However, when it comes to betting on this type of scripted game, to be honest i don’t see it exciting anymore. Gone are the days where we think this WWE is real and not scripted, but now that we know that everything is being faked, betting on it is like useless anymore. It’s more on an entertainment actually, no need to place an actual bet.

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It's just a waste of time and money. Maybe some people might still bet on them but still, it's like you are just joking with yourself even though the odds are high. I might bet on the fight that I think is worth spending my hard-earned money on and think that I will enjoy the fight, not a script that you know who already won even though the fight still not starting.

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as a fan of WWE or world wrestling since childhood? i am truly disappointed knowing that this is scripted but since now I understand that this is a entertainment so betting in a fight that scripted will not be on my list to gamble, I want to preserve how i wanted to enjoy this games.
and besides we will never be sure about the tips , as most of those are just created for scamming and for fooling people.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on March 09, 2023, 11:01:04 AM

Would you bet on a fight that is scripted even with the promise that the outcome will not be leaked to the public before the match ends? What is the ethical consideration is this case? Well this is the new information regarding the WWE about to explore this new type of betting option. You can read a part of the news quoted below and make your comments.

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WWE Keen to Explore Betting on Scripted Fights as an Option
But if the states were to clear this type of betting, that would only raise integrity concerns observers believe, as the outcomes of fights would be known and the possibility of a leak – high. WWE is reportedly working with Ernst & Young, an accountancy firm, to prove that the results of such fights would not be known to the public beforehand nor that they would leak out of the organizaiton.

Ernst & Young has previously advocated for the legalization of Academy Awards betting, and worked to keep the results a secret, proving that it’s possible to know an outcome beforehand and still have a fair betting market on the activity. WWE is of a similar mind, as the Oscars are already supported as betting markets in some places in the country, so why would sportsbooks hesitate to offer WWE fights, which are a form of entertainment for the most part rather than a pure athletic contest?

No official comment has been made by WWE officials to further elaborate on the situation, but Colorado has already denied the rumors. The Colorado Division of Gaming spoke to CNBC and briefly said that it had no intention of allowing betting on WWE matches as of right now. Legalizing WWE fights as viable betting events is not a stretch, however.

https://www.gamblingnews.com/news/wwe-wants-to-launch-gambling-on-scripted-fights-in-colorado-michigan/

I could really never imagine if anyone would take betting on WWE in serious consideration. Betting on WWE could be the biggest scam. Let's say that outcome will not be leaked, okay, but I'm afraid they'll collect the data, analyze how much money is bet on X side and Y side and the game will act according to whatever result brings the most profit to casinos.
This is what I mean:
Imagine there is a fight between John Cena and Dwyane.
Totally $20 million is betted on John Cena and $100 million is betted on Dwyane.
We don't know the outcome but they know that if John Cena wins, casino will profit $80 million (not net profit) but if Dwyane wins, casinos will lose a lot. They'll also take bet odds into consideration for more profit and less outcome.
Definitely, it's a big no no!

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Quote from: Casdinyard on March 09, 2023, 03:17:14 PM

A fight scripted such as one in WWE doesn't necessarily mean a fixed match.

You are wrong, a scripted match is likely to be fixed, there would be many people that will know that the match is scripted, also many people that will script the matches.

Gambling should be what no one should know the result until the match has finally ended
What a single person knows about is still better
What two people knows can go viral in just a day

In scripted matches, there are many people that knows about it which can make us conclude that scripted matches are fixed matches.

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i used to watch this show a lot back then but don't watch it anymore because i know it was a scripted fight and it was set up, i think people know that so no one wants to gamble on this fight, well even though it was there it was just for fun, I don't think this type of bet seems popular in a lot of casinos either and I don't even see people betting on fights where the outcome is already decided.

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Since not all fight are scripted, what's the reason I need to place my bet on fixed match? I can still have many choices to bet on the other real matches. Fixed match will have higher chance to goes opposite even majority of people think there's no way for the favorited player or team will lose. If you want to bet on fixed match, make sure you're bet not for serious, but you're fan of the player or team.

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I am certainly not going to bet in any scripted fight. As long as it is scripted, it might be compromised. One of the executives or any top officials that knew about the winning team may want to bet on it through someone else.
Regardless of the promise that no one else will know about who is going to win, it will be so hard to trust such promise when it comes to gambling. Not only from the top officials, the fighters them selves may be the once to compromise the game.
I will not and also advice nobody to engage in such high risk.

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Before, I enjoyed watching WWE. After knowing that the WWE is a fixed-match entertainment, I stopped watching it. Scripted fights don't have a thrill; even watching them now for too long is hard. Betting on it would not excite me at all. So honestly, I would not gamble on this kind of fight.

Surely some people would excite by this kind of betting. I hope they can manage to ensure that the match's outcome will not be leaked.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on March 09, 2023, 11:01:04 AM

Would you bet on a fight that is scripted even with the promise that the outcome will not be leaked to the public before the match ends? What is the ethical consideration is this case? Well this is the new information regarding the WWE about to explore this new type of betting option. You can read a part of the news quoted below and make your comments.

Why not, but if the risk is that our account becomes known as a limit or banned because we often bet on matches that fall into the fixed match category, then I will choose not to.
I don't think that WWE is a sports organization so what they hold falls into that category, WWE is just a fake match, it's almost the same as an exhibition match in my opinion so if there is a punther who can consistently win at this bet then his account could be in trouble someday.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on March 09, 2023, 11:01:04 AM

Would you bet on a fight that is scripted even with the promise that the outcome will not be leaked to the public before the match ends? What is the ethical consideration is this case?

Betting on a scripted fight like WWE is the most craziest thing to do for a gambler IMO lol.
There is no guarantee that there is no leak that is going to happen. In fact they can always manipulate the outcome and possibly work with the bookies.
WWE is exploring new ways of earning more moneys, to cut the story short. No offense to the WWE fans though, but I think it's better to just remain at the "entertainment" level and avoid things that would complicate the show.

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I might try betting on scripted games like WWE. I think we can't tell who would win if the fighters or wrestlers are evenly match based on their match before. We know that there are giants in WWE and they are more likely to win if 1 on 1 against other wrestlers that are not giant or very tall and big like big show. Scripted games is not reall good but I prefer the game that is not scripted like basketball and other sports.

yep that's right.
because in a friendly match it is very vulnerable to manipulation in the match. because many bookies are there and each bookies usually communicates to talk about win win solutions. I mean sometimes in friendly matches like WWE there are several bookies there and they talk to each other about the advantages of losing to one of the opponents. so I also don't like this type of match and prefer more real MMA bets.
even though in sports betting matches sometimes there is manipulation, but in WWE it's easier to manipulate and it happens often.

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Seriously ask, which sports bookie do include WWE matches? I don't see any crypto casino have WWE event, it's only MMA and it's a real fight, not scripted.

There's also a friendly match or exhibition match where the purpose is for entertainment and many people think the match was already scripted too. I don't comfortable to bet on exhibition or friendly match because the match can end in unexpected result.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on March 09, 2023, 11:01:04 AM

Would you bet on a fight that is scripted even with the promise that the outcome will not be leaked to the public before the match ends? What is the ethical consideration is this case? Well this is the new information regarding the WWE about to explore this new type of betting option. You can read a part of the news quoted below and make your comments.

I am not even a fool to bet in scripted game so what more in trusting them about not having a leakages ? though Wrestling is indeed scripted but I'm not sure if i can trust anyone that will tell me this is to win and this is to lose.
also the essence of entertainment will be gone and this will become a pure gambling that will surely end the career of all wrestlers in the world in future.

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WWE is obviously scripted and to put money on it, I don't see how can I be interested or attracted to it in the first place.

On their official website, the results are already there prior to the main event e.g Royal Rumble, Wrestle Mania, etc.

I can't believe there's a gambling market for that scripted event. I don't want to risk my money for an obvious show.

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I doubt if that can be seen as real gambling in any ways. What if my bet was correct on the right person that was supposed to win the fight, but due to it being scripted, the supposed winner then allowed his opponent to win just because it was scripted? Although it's still gambling, because some who will gamble on it may not know who will win. In that kind of bet, the winning will be biased, so I would better not bet on scripted wrestling like in the WWE.

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Scripted and bettings are two words apart you can't combine these two words, we hate the word scripted when we are betting and we accuse casinos of cheating if they allow the fight to be scripted, so how will you connect these two
when money is already involved, you're just allowing WWE to cheat you and you can not blame them because it's fixed, all I know is wrestling format has two scripts to play on and it depends on the fans' reaction to what storyline they will play on.

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Definitely no regardless of whether the source is legit or not. It's just that, I don't want to patronize betting on the scripted match as there are lots of "what if" there. Aside from that, I don't want to add more risk to my gambling activity by relying on those scripts.

I will continue my usual way of betting and depend on my own analysis instead of betting on a supposed sure win.

Specifically to WWE, I won't a risk every single bucks on it for an obvious reason that everything here is just for entertainment.

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Quote from: n0ne on March 09, 2023, 06:28:27 PM

It is something same as the fixed match. Why to spend on something that is being already planned and the outcome is decided. I never prefer such kind of bets. Even to watch those matches were I feel bad, because over exaggeration takes place. In no time results change.

In the past we had the SmackDown and Raw, now the same is happening in the name of different names. I'm not sure whether all these are same or different. However the importance of have got over the real fight is nil.

if you know that it is only scripted, the thrill on betting is the fact that the audience doesn't know the outcome of the match. but we don't know if the people behind it are taking advantage of knowing what the results are. they can easily relay it to one of their friends or colleagues so they can place a bet. who knows right?
this kind of fight, won't place a bet. will just enjoy watching it. for me, they can easily rig the event even at the last minute if they know there's a large money at stake.

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It is something same as the fixed match. Why to spend on something that is being already planned and the outcome is decided. I never prefer such kind of bets. Even to watch those matches were I feel bad, because over exaggeration takes place. In no time results change.

In the past we had the SmackDown and Raw, now the same is happening in the name of different names. I'm not sure whether all these are same or different. However the importance of have got over the real fight is nil.

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Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on March 09, 2023, 05:29:02 PM

Most of us would know a scripted match, mostly if we get to learn this development has come in play.
I don't think the pleasure from gambling would differ as same heightened scenario of emotions would surge still. The bet would be same but I doubt it would have good odds and outcome.
The WWE is even more real right now even if we know some scenes are acted, but people hardly bet there but boxing. I stand to be corrected.
I don't mind betting just for the fun or taste of how fun it would be, but for good continuous betting, I doubt, unless the outcome and bonuses is good pay.

Well right, and it has raised several ethical concerns, particularly if it involves betting with real money. Even if the outcome of the match is not leaked to the public, it is still unfair and potentially exploitative for the betting company to profit from a predetermined outcome. I think WWE already damaged its reputation because even I don't wanna like to see their match seems scripted to me --it could potentially damage its reputation and credibility as a legitimate sports entertainment company. Fans who are aware that matches are scripted may feel that their trust has been betrayed, and the company's credibility may suffer because, for me, betting should be based on fair and unbiased competition, and not on predetermined outcomes.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on March 09, 2023, 11:08:34 AM

Everything about WWE is scripted since I know about them, the matches look fake to me at times and it is not what I can go for. I will prefer to for boxing instead which is real. I can never bet on wresting like WWE.

For the real life matches in sport, we have so many options that we can just go for instead of the wrestling that is only meant for entertainment, not for betting for me when I have real life ones that can even take away my whole day if I want it to be like that.

If they allow this they will allow and legalize game-fixing because it's scripted only in WWE wrestling where a midget and an old man can win against muscular and big wrestlers and the obvious is not guaranteed to win, you cannot accuse them of game fixing because it really is game fixing.
WWE promotes itself as an entertainment portal because you cannot see cuts, blood, and broken bones here because the fighters are not really hurting themselves and only act like they are hurt, not something you will put your money in.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on March 09, 2023, 11:01:04 AM

Would you bet on a fight that is scripted even with the promise that the outcome will not be leaked to the public before the match ends? What is the ethical consideration is this case? Well this is the new information regarding the WWE about to explore this new type of betting option. You can read a part of the news quoted below and make your comments.

I'm a big fan of Dwayn Johnson, John Cena, Brock Lesnar, Roman reigns and Triple-H, because despite the fact that WWE is said to be scripted, these are the only guys whose fight I always enjoy, as they have always got this energy they put into each fight quite different from others. So in regards to the question on ground, I will say it will be unfair to integrate a scripted game on a casino, as you never can tell when such can be manipulated in favour of there stake.
So in general, if I'm opportune to see a casino who offers such services, then the best option should be the stake an amount you can always afford to lose.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on March 09, 2023, 11:01:04 AM

Would you bet on a fight that is scripted even with the promise that the outcome will not be leaked to the public before the match ends? What is the ethical consideration is this case? Well this is the new information regarding the WWE about to explore this new type of betting option. You can read a part of the news quoted below and make your comments.

https://www.gamblingnews.com/news/wwe-wants-to-launch-gambling-on-scripted-fights-in-colorado-michigan/

There are risks involved because even if the stronger has an edge over his opponents you can't be sure of the outcome because WWE is an entertainment portal its not the outcome but the storyline that viewers will enjoy, defending on the odds they may have two storylines to play to make sure the house wins, so not I don't support it because the obvious result will not materialize, this is not different to game fixing and they can get away with it.

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Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on March 09, 2023, 05:29:02 PM

The bet would be same

I don't that betting on a scripted script would be the same feeling to betting on a real outcome based on real performance. I think it would be difficult to have a real wrestling match on a bet and the only way to get to that assumption is the scripted form so it won't have same appeal.

Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on March 09, 2023, 05:29:02 PM

but I doubt it would have good odds and outcome.

On the contrary, I think it will have good odds to spice people up in betting on what is not real, that high odds will cause more fans is not to be argued because gamblers seem to glue to high odds game.

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It is inevitable that results might be leaked especially those that are working for them. They can't just guarantee that even if there will be FEDs involve, they just can't help if money is involved with it.

The fact that it is scripted and promising that they won't leak the result is already vague. That's an odd promise to be said as there's something that would be pursued once it's allowed.

It's easy money for them and the management will surely take advantage of it. Well, they might just go to Vegas and do the fights there. Tongue

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Quote from: uneng on March 09, 2023, 12:06:35 PM

It's funny they say the fight is scripted, but the results are kept in secret, what isn't true at all, since results aren't a secret for the person who scripted the fight and can leak the informations to anyone he wants, besides the actors involved and so on. Wink

For me it looks a money making method for insiders of the industry and not gambling at all. The probabilities of cheating by the people on the top of the pyramid is just too high.

I definitely agree with you. To be honest, I find it crazy that people tend to gamble on a platform which is known for being scripted in the first place. With this in mind, personally, I find it more difficult to bet on this kind of platform since the result may be more-or-less be unpredictable.

If that were the case, I would try to bet on a fight that is scripted but I will never wager an amount that is considerably high. I might try my luck just to see if the information that got leaked is genuine, but more than that, I would just try it to experience it.

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Hehe....is this supposed to be some kinda joke or what?? Could matches be bet by the masses even when they've been told that it's definitely conveyed upon a written script? Hmmm, well it depends on the informations they've got though; maybe if they've got someone in there that would possibly feed them with weekly predicted options. Bettors would definitely have a slimmer chances of winning without some good Nuggets.
I knew since a long time that matches under WWE are normally scripted and I'm not getting any surprised....with 'em fake punches, slides and stunts....it didn't even look real to me anyways.

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Most of us would know a scripted match, mostly if we get to learn this development has come in play.
I don't think the pleasure from gambling would differ as same heightened scenario of emotions would surge still. The bet would be same but I doubt it would have good odds and outcome.
The WWE is even more real right now even if we know some scenes are acted, but people hardly bet there but boxing. I stand to be corrected.
I don't mind betting just for the fun or taste of how fun it would be, but for good continuous betting, I doubt, unless the outcome and bonuses is good pay.

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And then what? Who will be the first wrestler to fake an injury?

I think this won't even be a big problem for the programmers to wrap their heads over because such injuries won't be severe or gory and life threatening. Such things as injuries do occur in nolly wood and other film making countries and the actors and actresses still come out of such injuries to carry on with the shooting. If WWE is to be scripted, it is just being made public because large number of people believe what happens there doesn't go beyond entertainment.

It should be no surprise that many of those fights are scripted and they always know the outcome before us and. For those gamblers that think they can easily make quick money from there, the problem is you can not beat the house. I would never bother myself betting on this kind of game because there is no assurance that the fight is not going to be leaked to some individuals that would take quick advantage of it and make money from us that are ignorant about the out of the bet. I will prefer betting on something else than the WWE.

With all of those videos flying around the net or streaming sites about those fake actions and scripted fight then it is no surprise that it is really that too obvious.There's no way for someone
who would really be interested on making out bets on something which we know that it is already that staged.Im not aware if there are really that bookies who do offer lines
for this or not, since im not really that looking into this corner ever since. For those who are really that a die hard fan then it is really that no surprising
that they would really be following.

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What will WWE offer as a betting option for those who want to bet on their entertaining scripted wrestling? Do they plan to include additional betting possibilities, such as disqualification and other outcomes, or is it just to predict a match's outcome(win or lose)? I'm not sure how they plan to manage everything. They should refrain from incorporating betting into their scripted wrestling since many viewers would find it amusing to bet on the WWE platform.

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If I qould be aware of who will be the winner, then that would be free money. The question is why? If I would be allowed to know who would be the winner, what is my assurance that others won't? 'coz if all bettors would know for sure no one would win, the gambling house won't allow that. Also, it is hard to trust hearsays so I guess it would still be better to just play the game. Those people who would be introducing fixed matchws has a tendency to sell you out, ofcourse they need a counterpart bettor in order for them to win. Unless there's this exclusivity with players to know the outcome and for some reason you are included on that group.

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Quote from: slapper on March 09, 2023, 02:47:42 PM

And then what? Who will be the first wrestler to fake an injury?

I think this won't even be a big problem for the programmers to wrap their heads over because such injuries won't be severe or gory and life threatening. Such things as injuries do occur in nolly wood and other film making countries and the actors and actresses still come out of such injuries to carry on with the shooting. If WWE is to be scripted, it is just being made public because large number of people believe what happens there doesn't go beyond entertainment.

It should be no surprise that many of those fights are scripted and they always know the outcome before us and. For those gamblers that think they can easily make quick money from there, the problem is you can not beat the house. I would never bother myself betting on this kind of game because there is no assurance that the fight is not going to be leaked to some individuals that would take quick advantage of it and make money from us that are ignorant about the out of the bet. I will prefer betting on something else than the WWE.

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Quote from: blockman on March 09, 2023, 03:33:00 PM

I like WWE but I don't like to bet on its matches because they're all scripted. That's why it's made for entertainment and that's why even during my childhood it made me believe that everything there is real. But not until I become grown up and understand the meaning of WWE.
It is no sense to me to bet on matches that even if it is scripted, I still don't know who's going to win on it. And that's why you rarely see matches on bookies with it because even if it's a sport, it's also entertainment that's attached to it, it's not a competitive sport, unlike the others.

Many thought WWE is a real one not until we saw a lot of news about it being a scripted movie just for the purpose of entertainment. Well, its hard to tell if you have the right source so its risky to bet and honestly, WWE didn’t entertain me anymore since the exit of my childhood star like The Undertaker. If you are going to bet on this, make sure that you are ready for the risk.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on March 09, 2023, 11:01:04 AM

Would you bet on a fight that is scripted even with the promise that the outcome will not be leaked to the public before the match ends? What is the ethical consideration is this case? Well this is the new information regarding the WWE about to explore this new type of betting option. You can read a part of the news quoted below and make your comments.

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WWE Keen to Explore Betting on Scripted Fights as an Option
But if the states were to clear this type of betting, that would only raise integrity concerns observers believe, as the outcomes of fights would be known and the possibility of a leak – high. WWE is reportedly working with Ernst & Young, an accountancy firm, to prove that the results of such fights would not be known to the public beforehand nor that they would leak out of the organizaiton.

Ernst & Young has previously advocated for the legalization of Academy Awards betting, and worked to keep the results a secret, proving that it’s possible to know an outcome beforehand and still have a fair betting market on the activity. WWE is of a similar mind, as the Oscars are already supported as betting markets in some places in the country, so why would sportsbooks hesitate to offer WWE fights, which are a form of entertainment for the most part rather than a pure athletic contest?

No official comment has been made by WWE officials to further elaborate on the situation, but Colorado has already denied the rumors. The Colorado Division of Gaming spoke to CNBC and briefly said that it had no intention of allowing betting on WWE matches as of right now. Legalizing WWE fights as viable betting events is not a stretch, however.

It is a bit of a strange concept, it's essentially betting on a rigged match and I don't understand how any regulator would allow it. Not only that, I don't know of any betting service that would be interested in listing these types of bets either, because they can so easily be abused by the WWE. The only people who stand to benefit from this are the organizers of the WWE and it's a captive market, frankly it's a disgrace to the word "sport" if it's allowed. I imagine that they are looking to keep everything "in-house" so you'll only be allowed to bet within the confines of a WWE platform, which makes a perverse incentive for the company to sway the match depending on what bet is looking more profitable at the outset of the fight.

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WWE is a branch or a part of Hollywood, at I didn't believe that WWE is scripted like Hollywood movies until I came to this forum and saw the discussion. Concerning betting on the scripted game like WWE, Even drama which the imitation of human action s paid by people or audience to watch and likewise WWE. That means people that do not know that WWE is scripted still make a bet on it. Mostly the third world countries, people bet on WWE. I have done it before but I have known it so I will not do it again.

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I like WWE but I don't like to bet on its matches because they're all scripted. That's why it's made for entertainment and that's why even during my childhood it made me believe that everything there is real. But not until I become grown up and understand the meaning of WWE.
It is no sense to me to bet on matches that even if it is scripted, I still don't know who's going to win on it. And that's why you rarely see matches on bookies with it because even if it's a sport, it's also entertainment that's attached to it, it's not a competitive sport, unlike the others.

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For hardcore fans of WWE, then maybe they will have to think about betting in this so called "fights" even if it is scripted. But for pure fans of any combat sports, I don't know, maybe majority of them are not going to bet on it as we all know that this is just like for entertainment and I don't think we can call it sports because of that.

So for me, I wouldn't put my money on the line, whatever they are going to said about the outcome being not leak by some body.

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A fight scripted such as one in WWE doesn't necessarily mean a fixed match. You have to remember that as a viewer, you have no idea who's gonna win after the match despite fuilly-knowing that the whole fight was staged and every move they made in the match were choreographed. In a case like that I could see myself betting because even though the whole fight was fabricated, the match isn't really as predictable as a fixed match per se so the edge of winning a game you have no expectations of who's winning is still there. WWE, local luchador matches, I've made bets on these sports back then, some just friendly bets like a 6-pack beer or a pack of cigs but sometimes a little on the baller side.

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Quote from: slapper on March 09, 2023, 02:47:42 PM

And then what? Who will be the first wrestler to fake an injury?

I think this won't even be a big problem for the programmers to wrap their heads over because such injuries won't be severe or gory and life threatening. Such things as injuries do occur in nolly wood and other film making countries and the actors and actresses still come out of such injuries to carry on with the shooting. If WWE is to be scripted, it is just being made public because large number of people believe what happens there doesn't go beyond entertainment.

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Quote from: slapper on March 09, 2023, 02:47:42 PM

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Huh? @OP explanation is WWE scripted.

We all-know, every WWE match it's scripted like punch and other think. They make it real because already professional stunt, that's why is all the things in WWE is fake (scripted).

There has so much ton video about WWE. You can watch by your self how scripted they show.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on March 09, 2023, 11:08:34 AM

Everything about WWE is scripted since I know about them, the matches look fake to me at times and it is not what I can go for. I will prefer to for boxing instead which is real. I can never bet on wresting like WWE.

For the real life matches in sport, we have so many options that we can just go for instead of the wrestling that is only meant for entertainment, not for betting for me when I have real life ones that can even take away my whole day if I want it to be like that.

I do even boggled up my mind on why there are people who are really that get fond on getting interested with WWE considering that those fights are obviously fake and sometimes its already that overreacting.
You could really see that those movements are really that indeed scripted and something you cant really just make out some bets considering that you know that the outcome is already that known.
Speaking about making some betting then we do know on where people or bettors would be having those impressions which is to pass out with this kind of bet because
we know that winning is already that rigged. Cheesy

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Quote from: bittraffic on March 09, 2023, 11:20:32 AM

When there is nothing else to bet on.

They promise the pre-outcome will not go public. But it's more devastating instead because the WWE itself will scam the public by betting against the people who believe these scripted fights. There are more fights out there other than NBA and if it's just for the sake you can gamble, every country today has had a premier league since the time India started it.

Well, the fact that regardless if it’s scripted, people are still being entertained by it, then there’s no wrong actually if we bet a small amount if we don’t see real fights happening that time. After all, I don’t see wrestling games are certainly real even before, so it’s not really an issue for me. But I still think betting on real match games like boxing and sportsbetting still give me more excitement to bet since we all know the outcomes are mostly not scripted and fixed.

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For as long as I can remember, WWE fight has always been scripted and this is clearly shown in the manner in which the fighters act on stage and the use of drugs have also been another attribute of wrestlers.
Revealing the outcome of the game before it ends has also been a constant occurrence just like in Hollywood movies where we see the end from the beginning and that is what acting is all about.

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How dare WWE even consider a betting option like this! The very idea of it is laughable. Someone betting on a staged battle seems crazy. Besides being inaccurate, it's also unethical. I would never consider investing in or engaging with something so pointless. The WWE has stooped to a new low in order to make a profit. And then what? Who will be the first wrestler to fake an injury? This is completely absurd, and I will have nothing to do with it.

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I would not, I simply could not trust the knowledge of the result won't get exploited by someone in a privileged position to make a lot of money. It sounds rather unethical. In my personal point of view, one should bet in sport and matches that we (as bettors) assume both sides are going to do their best to reach the victory.

that is one of the reasons people in my family have never betted on anything but sport events they can watch on live. At the end of the day, betting on spectacle events depends on the decision of a few of judges, who can be biased or directly bribed.

Probably the Colorado and Michigan sports betting platform will list those fights. Only kids watch WWE and those who think they are still kids. Grin

Who are they fooling? You would be ashamed to bet on these fights when later on your email will be posted publicly with a title WWE bettors.
They should just let those WWE men join the UFC to make it legitimate.

I don't know how the world of professional fight works exactly, but if it is like the other industries then I assume it must difficult for someone to reach and keep a title as professional wrestler.

Perhaps those enrolled in the WWE are there because cannot do the same in the UFC or in other championships for whatever reason. If that is what happens, then It would be sense they would rather to partake in the WWE in scripted fights rather than not partaking in anything at all.

If someone can confirm or deny my assumptions, it would be appreciated.

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Quote from: Hispo on March 09, 2023, 01:20:39 PM

I would not, I simply could not trust the knowledge of the result won't get exploited by someone in a privileged position to make a lot of money. It sounds rather unethical. In my personal point of view, one should bet in sport and matches that we (as bettors) assume both sides are going to do their best to reach the victory.

that is one of the reasons people in my family have never betted on anything but sport events they can watch on live. At the end of the day, betting on spectacle events depends on the decision of a few of judges, who can be biased or directly bribed.

Probably the Colorado and Michigan sports betting platform will list those fights. Only kids watch WWE and those who think they are still kids. Grin

Who are they fooling? You would be ashamed to bet on these fights when later on your email will be posted publicly with a title WWE bettors.
They should just let those WWE men join the UFC to make it legitimate.

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I don't know if bookies will allow it on the first place. The leakage is something to check about considering not only one knows the outcome in the first place, there could be some leakage and that's expected. There are lot of options to bet on, I would rather choose to bet on boxing rather than in WWE.

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I would not, I simply could not trust the knowledge of the result won't get exploited by someone in a privileged position to make a lot of money. It sounds rather unethical. In my personal point of view, one should bet in sport and matches that we (as bettors) assume both sides are going to do their best to reach the victory.

that is one of the reasons people in my family have never betted on anything but sport events they can watch on live. At the end of the day, betting on spectacle events depends on the decision of a few of judges, who can be biased or directly bribed.

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Wrestling fights for what I hear people discuss on it and opinions about it is that greater part of is fake and I also think so myself that it is for entertainment. Therefore if that is introduced into gambling and it finds it way, people will bet on it So whether the allusion of being scripted or not, people will bet on it. After all wrestling will not be the only scripted option for gambling betting. For example there is visual soccer which is also scripted and many gamblers like and see it as favourable betting option. I think the point is people choose to bet on what they get lucky and favoured on into profit, nobody would like losing his bet.

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Since, all-people know WWE is scripted.

The question is not about people who are betting, but do we have some question who want to put a scripted match on their casino ? I don't think so, even the match is scripted people are still gonna to betting on it.

But, the casino who are not gonna to put any kind of match who are scripted.

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well it can be an option betting on such kind of events.

personally I would take an option but only for fun/spend some funny time. even if it was allowed bet higher amount I would never take such risk Wink

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I would bet but only in the case where I know before hand how the script will be played out Grin

,unless I know such thing betting on scripted events like RAW or WWE is asking to lose money intentionally and that for me is plain stupid.Seeing that most casinos that allow you to bet on such events have limited max amounts means that they are aware that people with enough info can be pushing out that info to a lot of people trying to make money on casino shoulders and as such there is no point in betting in such events.

In here we all know that it is a scripted show,in football/soccer though we don't know but they play much better theater than WWE athletes and I can assure you for that Grin

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I just remember when I was young, this was really fun to watch, but as I grow up, it is very funny to watch as it is very fake. It has a possibility that it can be fixed, meaning it depends on the director and who he wants to win a fight. Let's just say that it is really in favor for person A to win because he is very powerful, and for sure people will bet on person A, but it ends up losing as person B won the fight, meaning they amass a lot of money on that. Also, how do they take care of their personnel, like if they know the script and they bet secretly on their homes on the wrestler that will win based on the script? I won't be betting on this kind of event.

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WWE betting has been around for a long time.

Wager limits for that category is low. I think I have seen around $100 to $200 betting limits for WWE.

Which could mean that those with inside information, who know the outcomes of the wrestling bouts, would not bother with it.

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It's funny they say the fight is scripted, but the results are kept in secret, what isn't true at all, since results aren't a secret for the person who scripted the fight and can leak the informations to anyone he wants, besides the actors involved and so on. Wink

For me it looks a money making method for insiders of the industry and not gambling at all. The probabilities of cheating by the people on the top of the pyramid is just too high.

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I often see sports betting systems with various options, many methods have been developed in the gambling industry how sports betting odds.

At a glance, I have read the resources that are shown here about the new sports betting method/humor that the WWE company wants to develop, but I don't really understand the meaning, method and intent of the bet that WWE wants to implement, I've read it over and over again but I don't understand it either.

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No official comment has been made by WWE officials to further elaborate on the situation, but Colorado has already denied the rumors.

However, a sports betting option that WWE wants to develop, if the goals are good and benefit the gamblers, I think it's not a barrier to reviewing how the betting options work in the future.

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When there is nothing else to bet on.

They promise the pre-outcome will not go public. But it's more devastating instead because the WWE itself will scam the public by betting against the people who believe these scripted fights. There are more fights out there other than NBA and if it's just for the sake you can gamble, every country today has had a premier league since the time India started it.

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Everything about WWE is scripted since I know about them, the matches look fake to me at times and it is not what I can go for. I will prefer to for boxing instead which is real. I can never bet on wresting like WWE.

For the real life matches in sport, we have so many options that we can just go for instead of the wrestling that is only meant for entertainment, not for betting for me when I have real life ones that can even take away my whole day if I want it to be like that.

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Would you bet on a fight that is scripted even with the promise that the outcome will not be leaked to the public before the match ends? What is the ethical consideration is this case? Well this is the new information regarding the WWE about to explore this new type of betting option. You can read a part of the news quoted below and make your comments.

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WWE Keen to Explore Betting on Scripted Fights as an Option
But if the states were to clear this type of betting, that would only raise integrity concerns observers believe, as the outcomes of fights would be known and the possibility of a leak – high. WWE is reportedly working with Ernst & Young, an accountancy firm, to prove that the results of such fights would not be known to the public beforehand nor that they would leak out of the organizaiton.

Ernst & Young has previously advocated for the legalization of Academy Awards betting, and worked to keep the results a secret, proving that it’s possible to know an outcome beforehand and still have a fair betting market on the activity. WWE is of a similar mind, as the Oscars are already supported as betting markets in some places in the country, so why would sportsbooks hesitate to offer WWE fights, which are a form of entertainment for the most part rather than a pure athletic contest?

No official comment has been made by WWE officials to further elaborate on the situation, but Colorado has already denied the rumors. The Colorado Division of Gaming spoke to CNBC and briefly said that it had no intention of allowing betting on WWE matches as of right now. Legalizing WWE fights as viable betting events is not a stretch, however.

https://www.gamblingnews.com/news/wwe-wants-to-launch-gambling-on-scripted-fights-in-colorado-michigan/

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