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Topic: Would you buy another Physical Coin? (Read 2468 times)

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May 12, 2015, 09:23:31 AM
#51
you are right it has dried up to the crisp.. I will buy though
BG4
legendary
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May 07, 2015, 07:06:59 AM
#50
Very nice...do you have a picture of the entire paper wallet?

This is my version of the old mining stocks from the early 1900s with a bitcoin twist





This is my second series , A one bitcoin Note... Under a BLACK LIGHT








I started a thread for discussion about my paper wallet certificates....

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11287791

BG4 I really like the last one. They're very eye catching. Are they printed on regular paper?

No.  The paper I use is an anti copy, high security paper... It has a feature that ..when you rub the paper with your finger.. the micro printing disappears .It will prints "Void Unauthorized copy" if it is scanned or copied..also micro threads embedded in the paper that is only seen under ultra violet lignting. Also the paper does not glow under a black light unlike regular copy paper... This is why the graphics pop so bright like they do..
The back of the paper has water mark lines that can be seen at just the right angle..ito stop cut and paste

Edit:  When I release the Mining stock certificate.The top pic.....It will also glow under a black light like the second pic does...


Pretty sofisticated, are you using Mirco Format's paper?
These are very beautiful, I hope to see them being produced soon, it's a most probable buy from me.

Yes....micro format had the best quality high end paper....I tested all of them....
legendary
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May 07, 2015, 03:06:48 AM
#49
Very nice...do you have a picture of the entire paper wallet?

This is my version of the old mining stocks from the early 1900s with a bitcoin twist





This is my second series , A one bitcoin Note... Under a BLACK LIGHT








I started a thread for discussion about my paper wallet certificates....

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11287791

BG4 I really like the last one. They're very eye catching. Are they printed on regular paper?

No.  The paper I use is an anti copy, high security paper... It has a feature that ..when you rub the paper with your finger.. the micro printing disappears .It will prints "Void Unauthorized copy" if it is scanned or copied..also micro threads embedded in the paper that is only seen under ultra violet lignting. Also the paper does not glow under a black light unlike regular copy paper... This is why the graphics pop so bright like they do..
The back of the paper has water mark lines that can be seen at just the right angle..ito stop cut and paste

Edit:  When I release the Mining stock certificate.The top pic.....It will also glow under a black light like the second pic does...


Pretty sofisticated, are you using Mirco Format's paper?
These are very beautiful, I hope to see them being produced soon, it's a most probable buy from me.
BG4
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PaperSafe
May 06, 2015, 08:43:51 AM
#48
Very nice...do you have a picture of the entire paper wallet?

This is my version of the old mining stocks from the early 1900s with a bitcoin twist





This is my second series , A one bitcoin Note... Under a BLACK LIGHT








I started a thread for discussion about my paper wallet certificates....

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11287791

BG4 I really like the last one. They're very eye catching. Are they printed on regular paper?

No.  The paper I use is an anti copy, high security paper... It has a feature that ..when you rub the paper with your finger.. the micro printing disappears .It will prints "Void Unauthorized copy" if it is scanned or copied..also micro threads embedded in the paper that is only seen under ultra violet lignting. Also the paper does not glow under a black light unlike regular copy paper... This is why the graphics pop so bright like they do..
The back of the paper has water mark lines that can be seen at just the right angle..ito stop cut and paste

Edit:  When I release the Mining stock certificate.The top pic.....It will also glow under a black light like the second pic does...
legendary
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May 06, 2015, 01:32:24 AM
#47
Very nice...do you have a picture of the entire paper wallet?

This is my version of the old mining stocks from the early 1900s with a bitcoin twist





This is my second series , A one bitcoin Note... Under a BLACK LIGHT








I started a thread for discussion about my paper wallet certificates....

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11287791

BG4 I really like the last one. They're very eye catching. Are they printed on regular paper?
legendary
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May 06, 2015, 01:27:34 AM
#46
I left this topic for a few days, now I have an essay to read Cheesy. Thanks for the response. I like the idea of unique paper wallets. However, I'll look to see if I can be able to print it on the same type of paper used for cheques. Won't I have to print the private key on it myself though?  Would you guys not look upon that as a security issue?

I love physical Bitcoins and I would buy one if the price is right. If you need any help, you could contact bigtimespaghetti, he is/was working on a book about minting your own coins.

Thanks, I'll contact him soon.
BG4
legendary
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PaperSafe
May 04, 2015, 11:02:42 PM
#45
Very nice...do you have a picture of the entire paper wallet?

This is my version of the old mining stocks from the early 1900s with a bitcoin twist





This is my second series , A one bitcoin Note... Under a BLACK LIGHT








I started a thread for discussion about my paper wallet certificates....

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11287791
hero member
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April 29, 2015, 04:14:12 PM
#44
I would prefer Physical bitcoin or else physical Gold coin as both of them are volatile in nature Prices goes up and down but at this stage can afford to invest in it as both has a great future and the best thing is their future  is not on diminishing stage its gonna be higher and higher.
BG4
legendary
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PaperSafe
April 26, 2015, 03:45:08 PM
#43
I would add a color to the bottom embossed wallet in the pic with 3 wallets.  Maybe remove or redo its upper section that has the public and private keys.  I think it looks too generic like it came from bitaddress.org.



BITADDRESS.ORG is what I use to generate and encrypt the keys...... The Idea was to have the area with the addresses and QR codes as clean as can be.... No Folds .....The document is split into 3 not quite equal sections.. The bottom 1/3 gets folded up... then the top 1/3 gets folded down...this created an envelope  ...and the addresses are inside..... the top 2/3 act as a wrapper to protect it ....   So what you have when it's folded up is a 2 sided note with the keys in the middle....


legendary
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April 26, 2015, 12:37:50 PM
#42
I would add a color to the bottom embossed wallet in the pic with 3 wallets.  Maybe remove or redo its upper section that has the public and private keys.  I think it looks too generic like it came from bitaddress.org.

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April 26, 2015, 11:10:30 AM
#41
I love physical Bitcoins and I would buy one if the price is right. If you need any help, you could contact bigtimespaghetti, he is/was working on a book about minting your own coins.
legendary
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April 26, 2015, 11:07:06 AM
#40
Here is a paper certificate/wallet done by a company in Switzerland: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wts-swiss-issued-physical-bitcoin-certificates-852488
legendary
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April 26, 2015, 09:25:15 AM
#39
Great job on these.  I'll be buying some when made available for sale.
BG4
legendary
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PaperSafe
April 26, 2015, 09:05:25 AM
#38
BG4 those paper wallets look amazing!  Especially the UV one, it's really amazing. Any thread on those? How much would the final product be?

Actually they both have UV effects .... I am starting a week long trip today.....I'll start a thread next Saturday when I get back....I'll also have to get some of my other designs ready to photograph...

I'll still be able to answer questions  via my phone.. but  limited .
legendary
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April 26, 2015, 08:29:22 AM
#37
BG4 those paper wallets look amazing!  Especially the UV one, it's really amazing. Any thread on those? How much would the final product be?
hero member
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April 26, 2015, 07:00:35 AM
#36
As far as physical coins go, I collect them and like others have stated here, you really cant go wrong with them.
hero member
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April 26, 2015, 06:57:16 AM
#35
Is that last note embossed or just the effect?
I like um =)

I use 2 embossers ..one is the bitcoin logo and another that looks like a corporate seal.....
I also use 2 numbering machines, 1 for the black numbering and 1 for the UV ink numbering....

The paper is 2 factor security paper, It prints VOID when it is copied on a copier, and the 2 factor lines will disappear when you hold a finger on it....
the back of the paper also has water mark lines when its held at the right angle.... The paper will also react to solvents and alcohols, so if the hologram seal is attempted to be removed , the paper turns a brown color..... The paper also glows under Black light unlike regular white paper, and the micro threads become visible.... This paper is expensive!!!!!  Since these 2 series were printed , I have added a few more security features that are not on the pictures.....

If I need to make a new thread for questions and answers and to gauge interest.... just PM me and I will.....I would like to make pre-printed paper wallets popular.... I just didnt think people would buy them do to security /scam issues... Alot of time, thought and money went into these and Im not looking for a scammer tag.....

These pictures don't do my certificates justice.... They look really cool in hand.... If I do say so my self...



Very well done on the certificates! The embossing on them is very well done. I'm sure you would get some interest in these.
BG4
legendary
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PaperSafe
April 25, 2015, 09:13:02 PM
#34
Is that last note embossed or just the effect?
I like um =)

I use 2 embossers ..one is the bitcoin logo and another that looks like a corporate seal.....
I also use 2 numbering machines, 1 for the black numbering and 1 for the UV ink numbering....

The paper is 2 factor security paper, It prints VOID when it is copied on a copier, and the 2 factor lines will disappear when you hold a finger on it....
the back of the paper also has water mark lines when its held at the right angle.... The paper will also react to solvents and alcohols, so if the hologram seal is attempted to be removed , the paper turns a brown color..... The paper also glows under Black light unlike regular white paper, and the micro threads become visible.... This paper is expensive!!!!!  Since these 2 series were printed , I have added a few more security features that are not on the pictures.....

If I need to make a new thread for questions and answers and to gauge interest.... just PM me and I will.....I would like to make pre-printed paper wallets popular.... I just didnt think people would buy them do to security /scam issues... Alot of time, thought and money went into these and Im not looking for a scammer tag.....

These pictures don't do my certificates justice.... They look really cool in hand.... If I do say so my self...

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April 25, 2015, 08:38:54 PM
#33
Is that last note embossed or just the effect?
I like um =)
legendary
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April 25, 2015, 07:00:54 PM
#32
I like the 1900's stock cerificate style.  I would be interested in one of them
legendary
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April 25, 2015, 06:08:22 PM
#31
The 2nd picture is very cool
BG4
legendary
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PaperSafe
April 25, 2015, 01:57:17 PM
#30
Very nice...do you have a picture of the entire paper wallet?

This is my version of the old mining stocks from the early 1900s with a bitcoin twist





This is my second series , A one bitcoin Note... Under a BLACK LIGHT





legendary
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April 25, 2015, 01:47:33 PM
#29
Very nice...do you have a picture of the entire paper wallet?
BG4
legendary
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PaperSafe
April 25, 2015, 01:42:01 PM
#28
I designed a paper wallet with every security feature I could think of....... I did this for my own use...because I didnt like any paper wallets that were printable....I did about 10 different designs, only printed 2 of them in a series of 25 each....... I haven't really wanted to release them here or anywhere for that matter....I didnt think anyone would buy a pre-printed Paper wallet with private keys... If I got enough request , I could do another run of 25 or 50 and sell them here. or If anyone wanted a custom run for them selves...... that could be done also....





legendary
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April 25, 2015, 01:24:38 PM
#27
How about a unique paper wallet document that can not be duplicated  and is limited in its production ... that contains public and encrypted private keys......  would anyone buy them???   Why does a physical bitcoin need to be made of a metal..

I don't find paper wallets to be as special as coins.  I don't care for something that can be printed at home and look like a photocopy.  If its done right with unique papers or inks, that's a little better.

YES...nothing like you have ever seen before.... Top notch paper, touch sensitive inks, stamps, embossing seals, holograms, micro threads, hidden UV details.......impossible to replicate , encrypted private key password is tamper evident, one time reveal..... 

Yes, I would be interested in those
legendary
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April 25, 2015, 01:14:46 PM
#26
I would also be interested in a professionally designed physical paper/card wallet.
If designed correctly, they could look really nice. I recently saw that Zinodaur created one but it seems like the company haven't actually released it as of yet.
Perhaps you could create a mintage of say 100 classic ones with a portrait of someone important in the crypto space.
You could then create smaller limited editions with portraits of other important people.
Your most limited card could depict satoshi (in silhouette) and have a total of only 10 or so with that artwork. I guess as far as private keys go, it'd be the same as any physical wallet.
I'd 100% buy a few 0.1 BTC - 0.25 BTC denominations if the price was right.  

Seriously though, check out Zinodaur's work... It's amazing.
BG4
legendary
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PaperSafe
April 25, 2015, 01:12:48 PM
#25
How about a unique paper wallet document that can not be duplicated  and is limited in its production ... that contains public and encrypted private keys......  would anyone buy them???   Why does a physical bitcoin need to be made of a metal..

I don't find paper wallets to be as special as coins.  I don't care for something that can be printed at home and look like a photocopy.  If its done right with unique papers or inks, that's a little better.

YES...nothing like you have ever seen before.... Top notch paper, touch sensitive inks, stamps, embossing seals, holograms, micro threads, hidden UV details.......impossible to replicate , encrypted private key password is tamper evident, one time reveal..... 
legendary
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April 25, 2015, 12:59:41 PM
#24
How about a unique paper wallet document that can not be duplicated  and is limited in its production ... that contains public and encrypted private keys......  would anyone buy them???   Why does a physical bitcoin need to be made of a metal..

I don't find paper wallets to be as special as coins.  I don't care for something that can be printed at home and look like a photocopy.  If its done right with unique papers or inks, that's a little better.
legendary
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April 25, 2015, 12:11:39 PM
#23
I wouldn't mind for more physical coins on the market, as long as they're cheap Cheesy Not fan of big gold coins with complex designs...
BG4
legendary
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PaperSafe
April 25, 2015, 12:03:39 PM
#22
How about a bitcoin fossil ,  There has to be a market for these....



legendary
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April 25, 2015, 12:02:14 PM
#21
you can never own enough physical coins, I collect them as well Smiley
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April 25, 2015, 11:43:34 AM
#20
How about a unique paper wallet document that can not be duplicated  and is limited in its production ... that contains public and encrypted private keys......  would anyone buy them???   Why does a physical bitcoin need to be made of a metal..

Just the way it's come to be I guess.

Metal is solid and can last some time.

I thought that crazy woodcollector guy did something with wood bitcoins.

They were round wooden "lasered" art pieces..... very beautiful I may add.......But I don't think they had Public and private keys that were loadable and redeemable

I worked with woodcollector on some prototypes for a wooden physical coin.  I actually have 1 in my possession but haven't completed the engraved private key plates that go inside of it yet.  It's on my to do list.   Tongue
BG4
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April 25, 2015, 11:37:45 AM
#19
How about a unique paper wallet document that can not be duplicated  and is limited in its production ... that contains public and encrypted private keys......  would anyone buy them???   Why does a physical bitcoin need to be made of a metal..

Just the way it's come to be I guess.

Metal is solid and can last some time.

I thought that crazy woodcollector guy did something with wood bitcoins.

They were round wooden "lasered" art pieces..... very beautiful I may add.......But I don't think they had Public and private keys that were loadable and redeemable
legendary
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April 25, 2015, 11:34:08 AM
#18
How about a unique paper wallet document that can not be duplicated  and is limited in its production ... that contains public and encrypted private keys......  would anyone buy them???   Why does a physical bitcoin need to be made of a metal..

Just the way it's come to be I guess.

Metal is solid and can last some time.

I thought that crazy woodcollector guy did something with wood bitcoins.
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April 25, 2015, 11:27:31 AM
#17
How about a unique paper wallet document that can not be duplicated  and is limited in its production ... that contains public and encrypted private keys......  would anyone buy them???   Why does a physical bitcoin need to be made of a metal..

Just the way it's come to be I guess.
BG4
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April 25, 2015, 11:22:47 AM
#16
How about a unique paper wallet document that can not be duplicated  and is limited in its production ... that contains public and encrypted private keys......  would anyone buy them???   Why does a physical bitcoin need to be made of a metal..
legendary
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April 25, 2015, 09:40:43 AM
#15
I would personally only buy either physical bitcoins or litecoins, probably won't go with doge or anything unless it's unfunded.

Also, consider how you would generate private keys. People are becoming more and more cautions when handling private keys.
legendary
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April 25, 2015, 09:37:37 AM
#14
I collect all physical crypto coins, cards etc...regardless if bitcoin or not, but I would prefer bitcoin or at least some mainstream alt.  Not CLAM.

I would limit the mintage, so a collector feels it has some rarity. 

I don't mind whether the coin is funded or not, and probably prefer its not due to trust issues and lower price.
legendary
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April 25, 2015, 04:49:37 AM
#13
I agree that Bitcoin or Litecoin are the most mainstream choices.  Clams seems so obscure that you risk having a tiny audience.  I don't see why the alt choice or denomination matters on cost if you go unfunded instead.  Based on your country, there are legal issues to fund these.  I also agree that DIY may be preferable or as an option, so there aren't trust issues.

Use a nice simple clean design with a custom holo if possible.  Keep the price under $50 each.  The lower the better it will sell, as people are very price conscious.

If you offer a few different finishes, many collectors will get one of each.

Thanks, I'll definitely look into btc and ltc. I'll look into self funded coins.

Should I have a cap on the amount of coins I produce or should I just produce indefinitely?
legendary
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April 25, 2015, 04:45:07 AM
#12
I would buy a physical Bitcoin or Litecoin.
Most people us price as a decisive factor when buying physical coins though.
If your premium isn't too high and the coin itself is well designed and high quality, you should have no problem selling them.

I'm hoping to have it have a fair selling price. Litecoin seems like a viable option since there isn't as many coins available.


A solid gold coin would be ridiculously expensive. I'd also think about not funding them yourself. Doesn't that leave the people who own them to trust you not to have made a back up of the private keys? I'd design something like Silver Wallets have so people can fund the coins themselves.
As much as I'd like to produce a solid gold coin, I wouldn't be able to do it as it would be hard for me to get the amount of gold required for the coin. It is too expensive which is another reason for why I wouldn't produce one.

If people won't trust me with the private keys then they shouldn't be looking into purchasing the coin. I'd prefer to make a coin wallet much like Silver Wallets, but from what I notice is that people prefer coins that holds a value. Correct me if I'm wrong.
legendary
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April 25, 2015, 04:35:18 AM
#11
I collect physical coins, so I would be interested in one of each finish.  Not sure how I feel about Clams though.  You want to appeal to a large audience.  If looking only at alts, also consider Dark, Etherium or something popular.

I'll take a look into various alts and do some research on demand for them. What coins do you collect? Just physical Bitcoins?

Sure I would. It would have to be a flawless finish though with attention to details. It would also have to be not too cheap and not too expensive, I'd say $50 for a coin with enough gold would be around what I'd pay. And like someone else said, popular coins would be more appealing than obscure ones.

Yeah, I was trying to get a price around $45-$60 with some gold finishing. I'd like to have more of a flat design for the coins since I'm a minimalist person. Regarding the obscure coins, I won't go full out on them. If I ever do decide to do mint some dedicated to them, I probably won't manufacture a lot.
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April 24, 2015, 07:43:28 AM
#10
I agree that Bitcoin or Litecoin are the most mainstream choices.  Clams seems so obscure that you risk having a tiny audience.  I don't see why the alt choice or denomination matters on cost if you go unfunded instead.  Based on your country, there are legal issues to fund these.  I also agree that DIY may be preferable or as an option, so there aren't trust issues.

Use a nice simple clean design with a custom holo if possible.  Keep the price under $50 each.  The lower the better it will sell, as people are very price conscious.

If you offer a few different finishes, many collectors will get one of each.
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April 24, 2015, 05:36:32 AM
#9
I would like clam on a physical coin, also any coin made of gold would be great.


Actually, that's not such a bad idea. I'd rather go down the road of altcoins for now since it may prove to be a little cheaper and feasible.
It won't be a solid gold coin, it would have a gold finish.

A solid gold coin would be ridiculously expensive. I'd also think about not funding them yourself. Doesn't that leave the people who own them to trust you not to have made a back up of the private keys? I'd design something like Silver Wallets have so people can fund the coins themselves.
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April 24, 2015, 02:54:44 AM
#8
I would buy a physical Bitcoin or Litecoin.
Most people us price as a decisive factor when buying physical coins though.
If your premium isn't too high and the coin itself is well designed and high quality, you should have no problem selling them.
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April 24, 2015, 01:36:22 AM
#7
Sure I would. It would have to be a flawless finish though with attention to details. It would also have to be not too cheap and not too expensive, I'd say $50 for a coin with enough gold would be around what I'd pay. And like someone else said, popular coins would be more appealing than obscure ones.
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April 23, 2015, 10:01:59 PM
#6
I collect physical coins, so I would be interested in one of each finish.  Not sure how I feel about Clams though.  You want to appeal to a large audience.  If looking only at alts, also consider Dark, Etherium or something popular.
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April 23, 2015, 10:02:07 AM
#5

Actually, that's not such a bad idea. I'd rather go down the road of altcoins for now since it may prove to be a little cheaper and feasible.
It won't be a solid gold coin, it would have a gold finish.

Well if you need help with it try jd you could get an idea of what a clam looks like Tongue.

If it's feasible and not too expensive I'll probably get it in the shape of the logo of the Alt or in this case a clam shell.
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April 03, 2015, 07:00:44 AM
#4

Actually, that's not such a bad idea. I'd rather go down the road of altcoins for now since it may prove to be a little cheaper and feasible.
It won't be a solid gold coin, it would have a gold finish.

Well if you need help with it try jd you could get an idea of what a clam looks like Tongue.
legendary
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March 31, 2015, 12:00:46 PM
#3
I would like clam on a physical coin, also any coin made of gold would be great.


Actually, that's not such a bad idea. I'd rather go down the road of altcoins for now since it may prove to be a little cheaper and feasible.
It won't be a solid gold coin, it would have a gold finish.
legendary
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March 31, 2015, 11:57:11 AM
#2
I would like clam on a physical coin, also any coin made of gold would be great.
legendary
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March 31, 2015, 10:49:44 AM
#1
The market seems to be saturated at this point in time with the amount of physical coins out there. Despite this I was looking into starting to Mint my own coins.
The coins would be funded and would have a balance of around 0.1-1btc. I'm hoping to be able to mint 50-100 coins if your response is decent.

Specs would hopefully be something like 1.5" or 1.75". I'm hoping to mint about 10 gold finished coins 80 silver and possibly copper/brass for the rest.
If it's feasible I'll try to get the coins to have an epoxy finish. I'll either have a velvet box or a plastic slab to present and hold the coin.
Regarding the hologram, I haven't thought up on anything yet. I'm not even sure that if I can get somebody here to make them for me. I'll try my best however.
I have no ideas for designs yet but I can think of something that would look beautiful, hopefully something to compete with kialara? Cheesy

There's a 50/50 chance of me doing this, If I am able to free up enough time after my studies I would do this.

Any comments? Or feedback regarding the title?
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