Your suggestion will seriously negate one important feature of quote in BTT. Sometimes quotes serve as archive. It helps to retrieve the original post even after several edits. I may drop a post and ask someone to quote that post, which means I have lost the 100% right to edit the post completely. The right now lies with a third party. This is a nice feature in open discussion forum.
With the instance LoyceV gave above, if your idea should be implemented, it's PowerGlove that can tell how messy and unmaintainable the codes will be. Imagine multi-quoting an editted text and expect all the edits to be reflected.
Topic: Wouldn't it be nice for edited posts to reflect on wherever it was quoted? (Read 213 times)
May 28, 2024, 02:05:05 PM
May 28, 2024, 01:56:48 AM
Now I quoted comment of someone and added my contribution that is in-line with the discussion but later the person I quoted came and edited the post. By the present forum setting, my quote will still bear the previous comment meanwhile the person would have edited the post and might have even change his opinion on the subject. So wouldn't it be nice if whenever a post is edited, it reflects on wherever it was quoted? Can this be possible? If yes what impact will this have on discussions in this forum?
How would that be nice if the comment you quoted gets changed while your post stays the same? Wouldn't that make it look odd as your post will become irrelevant and off-topic since it wouldn't match the quote at all? Quotes in replies not changing isn't an issue but it would be an issue if they change because it will mess everything up.
May 27, 2024, 02:12:14 PM
So wouldn't it be nice if whenever a post is edited, it reflects on wherever it was quoted?
No it would not be nice, it would only create more mess in forum.There are valid reasons for editing posts sometimes and that could totally change meaning of quoted posts and replies.
It's impossible to do this automatic, and even if it was possible it would take lot of resources to constantly scan and detect what posts are edited, and then to edit all other posts from members who replied.
May 25, 2024, 02:23:13 PM
Getting that feature enabled will do more harm than good in this forum. Aside from tools like Ninjastic and Loycev's achieved tools, it will be heard to get back what was already posted before it was edited.
Let's take, for instance, the thread where members addresses are being staked; it could easily be edited and a new address added for verification in cases of investigation.
If you want to see the edited post reflected, you can do it manually since you are the one who quoted the person. You can just edit your own comment and reflect the change on the part you want to adjust by copying the edited comment and reflecting it with your quoted part.
Let's take, for instance, the thread where members addresses are being staked; it could easily be edited and a new address added for verification in cases of investigation.
If you want to see the edited post reflected, you can do it manually since you are the one who quoted the person. You can just edit your own comment and reflect the change on the part you want to adjust by copying the edited comment and reflecting it with your quoted part.
The "stake your address" thread does not allow for edits, so wherever you stake it remains that way. This way, you cannot alter or change your address unless you sign a message from your old address stating the cause for the change.
As someone already stated, quoted posts are not saved in the database and will not be affected if the OP is modified. I don't see how this is ever going to work.
May 25, 2024, 12:37:51 PM
So wouldn't it be nice if whenever a post is edited, it reflects on wherever it was quoted? Can this be possible? If yes what impact will this have on discussions in this forum?
I think I understand you quite well. It ain't entirely a bad idea but, it is mutilation none the less as, this could be by some means to erase evidence in the event if some malicious act. Of course the Ninjastic space is there for backups but still, haven't corrected someone on a post by quoting the person or having someone change their opinion to a post you quote by them editing the original post, it doesn't really matter that this be reflected in your quote.Mind you, the mistakes when spoken about is what validates your post. If this correction was to be effected in your quote post, your opinion wouldn't correlate and then, there would be a need for everyone to have quote the same post to go back for reviews and correct what is left of their comment.
Now, that presents a turn of work and would as well create some confusion in the information flow.
This feature may be abused.
An abuser will abuse anything. They will abuse self-moderated feature, they will abuse edit of a topic or posts and everything.That's why, you can find someone committing a crime even with the awareness that there is a functional CCTV facility in place.
May 25, 2024, 08:26:14 AM
When you remember that I can quote a post and write literally anything into it, you will start to see that it matters little if the original content changes or not.
Quoting is also used as a way to lock in staked addresses on this forum. If quotes will get edited too with the main text then scammers can get away changing addresses that were originally used. The post scrappers already makes that impossible to get away with, but those are external sources.
The last reason I will not support this idea is it will make reading threads difficult. The reply I made at the time I quoted could easily be off topic to what it was edited to.
Quoting is also used as a way to lock in staked addresses on this forum. If quotes will get edited too with the main text then scammers can get away changing addresses that were originally used. The post scrappers already makes that impossible to get away with, but those are external sources.
The last reason I will not support this idea is it will make reading threads difficult. The reply I made at the time I quoted could easily be off topic to what it was edited to.
May 25, 2024, 04:18:39 AM
I'm going to ignore all reasons why this is bad, and only focus on a technical reason:
Now edit one of the "I quoted" texts and tell me which one of mine should be updated. It's impossible to know.
I quoted
You wrote this!Quote
I quoted
And you wrote this!Now edit one of the "I quoted" texts and tell me which one of mine should be updated. It's impossible to know.
May 24, 2024, 08:27:28 PM
I would like to use a formally reputable member of the forum as an example to buttress most of the response that has been given here.
Let's use Ratimov which is know as Symmetrick now, who deleted almost all his post if not all, from a clear view if what you suggest was enable or was a feature in the forum what would be your reaction when you see symmetrick threads that where deleted?
Obviously every one who posted or commented on those thread or quoted him who have seen an empty quote with no content in it as he already deleted his OP. Just as hugeblack and BitcoinGirl.Club said it would be abused if such feature is enabled and it will distort some reasonable things here in the forum.
Let's use Ratimov which is know as Symmetrick now, who deleted almost all his post if not all, from a clear view if what you suggest was enable or was a feature in the forum what would be your reaction when you see symmetrick threads that where deleted?
Obviously every one who posted or commented on those thread or quoted him who have seen an empty quote with no content in it as he already deleted his OP. Just as hugeblack and BitcoinGirl.Club said it would be abused if such feature is enabled and it will distort some reasonable things here in the forum.
May 24, 2024, 04:15:02 PM
By the present forum setting, my quote will still bear the previous comment meanwhile the person would have edited the post and might have even change his opinion on the subject.
it happens even more often than how it seems... People tend to rush into discussions cluelessly - maybe with a little idea about what the topic says and without reading the content, just to get to realize that they're a little bit off topic. In that case, occurrences like what you described becomes very frequent.I seen people lay alot of complaints on the effects of edited posts recently. It could then be treated as major point of concern.
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So wouldn't it be nice if whenever a post is edited, it reflects on wherever it was quoted? Can this be possible? If yes what impact will this have on discussions in this forum?
it's possible, but it'd be with great difficulty. Caches don't just clear up in a matter of seconds so it might still need a little more time to sync the adjustments. Writing a code and adding a domain for the redevelopment would cost money... It's up to Theymos to decide!
May 24, 2024, 02:02:22 AM
So here is the issue, assuming someone made a post and others dropped their comments as usual. Now I quoted comment of someone and added my contribution that is in-line with the discussion but later the person I quoted came and edited the post. By the present forum setting, my quote will still bear the previous comment meanwhile the person would have edited the post and might have even change his opinion on the subject. So wouldn't it be nice if whenever a post is edited, it reflects on wherever it was quoted? Can this be possible? If yes what impact will this have on discussions in this forum?
This will not be good at all. Anything you have quoted should not change even if the person that you quote edit his posts. Let us say someone posted something but it is wrong and you quote him and corrected him. The person accepted and edited his posts, people that read through the thread can see your correction posts and know that you are the one that corrected him as they can see the mistake that you quote. It is better the way it is. 
May 24, 2024, 12:56:45 AM
This feature may be abused.
An abuser will abuse anything. They will abuse self-moderated feature, they will abuse edit of a topic or posts and everything. 
May 24, 2024, 12:48:18 AM
This feature may be abused. It is best that if text is quoted from the forum and modified, the color of the link changes to red. Then it will be easy to distinguish between the quote and the modified quote.
May 23, 2024, 11:46:05 PM
This is more like talking about morality.
Although this case never happened to me, but it's about other thing.
Let's say someone create a thread and ask which wallet is the best for Bitcoin, at the moment no one replied the thread.
So I make a reply as the first poster, but after I want to click "post", someone post faster than me and recommend Trust wallet which is bad due to closed source.
Then I quote his post and reply if it's not good, but after next couple minutes, that user mention the wallet that I suggested e.g. Electrum, Blue wallet etc which make his post doesn't really looks wrong.
This is quite tricky, remove to edit post isn't the solution, I think it's what it's.
Although this case never happened to me, but it's about other thing.
Let's say someone create a thread and ask which wallet is the best for Bitcoin, at the moment no one replied the thread.
So I make a reply as the first poster, but after I want to click "post", someone post faster than me and recommend Trust wallet which is bad due to closed source.
Then I quote his post and reply if it's not good, but after next couple minutes, that user mention the wallet that I suggested e.g. Electrum, Blue wallet etc which make his post doesn't really looks wrong.
This is quite tricky, remove to edit post isn't the solution, I think it's what it's.
May 23, 2024, 11:19:32 PM
So wouldn't it be nice if whenever a post is edited, it reflects on wherever it was quoted? Can this be possible? If yes what impact will this have on discussions in this forum?
I don't know if this would be nice or not but I do not think it is going to be an easy task. For a quote of whole posts it is easier but when you are quoting a part of a post then it is difficult. You will need to compare every character. It will require a good amount of time to implement the method. Knowing how Theymos handle updates, I do not think this is something that will interest him.[...]
Long time! Welcome back. 
May 23, 2024, 10:08:36 PM
So here is the issue, assuming someone made a post and others dropped their comments as usual. Now I quoted comment of someone and added my contribution that is in-line with the discussion but later the person I quoted came and edited the post. By the present forum setting, my quote will still bear the previous comment meanwhile the person would have edited the post and might have even change his opinion on the subject.
The quote is to quote the content of a post at time of quoting.If that poster edit the OP, this action can have many reasons. Like the OP simply sees something need to be edited by himself or want to add more information. OP can edit it if your post helps him to correct something but if he is kindful, he will reply to your helpful post with a thank you.
OP can edit a post content to distort his discussion with some posters and it looks like a reason you meant.
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So wouldn't it be nice if whenever a post is edited, it reflects on wherever it was quoted? Can this be possible? If yes what impact will this have on discussions in this forum?
The quote function is not designed to do this and I don't think it is necessary to change like your proposal. If two posters disagree with each other, and one poster goes to edit original post to distort the discussion flow, let it be and move on. Another poster should stop discussion right there and peace out.Forum only has a dash line for edited post if the poster edits it after 15 minutes.
May 23, 2024, 08:32:29 PM
That is not how the quote feature works. When you "quote" a post, you can make the post say whatever you want it to say. The text inside the quote box is not linked to the original post in the database.
May 23, 2024, 08:19:11 PM
Why it's done so is to keep records of the op even though someone quoted your post it won't reflect if you edit the post rather than what you posted earlier. I think that option is not ideal to me, maybe except there would be additional tools that would keep records of the op even if it's edited just as ninjastic.space does you would see every content that is posted by the op before either deletion of alterations. But however, there is no much impact on it if I may say.
May 23, 2024, 06:24:14 PM
Getting that feature enabled will do more harm than good in this forum. Aside from tools like Ninjastic and Loycev's achieved tools, it will be heard to get back what was already posted before it was edited.
Let's take, for instance, the thread where members addresses are being staked; it could easily be edited and a new address added for verification in cases of investigation.
If you want to see the edited post reflected, you can do it manually since you are the one who quoted the person. You can just edit your own comment and reflect the change on the part you want to adjust by copying the edited comment and reflecting it with your quoted part.
Let's take, for instance, the thread where members addresses are being staked; it could easily be edited and a new address added for verification in cases of investigation.
If you want to see the edited post reflected, you can do it manually since you are the one who quoted the person. You can just edit your own comment and reflect the change on the part you want to adjust by copying the edited comment and reflecting it with your quoted part.
May 23, 2024, 06:16:27 PM
I have tried so hard on how to frame this post so that it will.be well understood. I will lock this thread the moment anyone directs me to where similar issue have been addressed because I have checked but couldn't see one.
So here is the issue, assuming someone made a post and others dropped their comments as usual. Now I quoted comment of someone and added my contribution that is in-line with the discussion but later the person I quoted came and edited the post. By the present forum setting, my quote will still bear the previous comment meanwhile the person would have edited the post and might have even change his opinion on the subject. So wouldn't it be nice if whenever a post is edited, it reflects on wherever it was quoted? Can this be possible? If yes what impact will this have on discussions in this forum?
So here is the issue, assuming someone made a post and others dropped their comments as usual. Now I quoted comment of someone and added my contribution that is in-line with the discussion but later the person I quoted came and edited the post. By the present forum setting, my quote will still bear the previous comment meanwhile the person would have edited the post and might have even change his opinion on the subject. So wouldn't it be nice if whenever a post is edited, it reflects on wherever it was quoted? Can this be possible? If yes what impact will this have on discussions in this forum?
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