Topic: Wrapped 2017 NFT collateralized -> USDT liquidity (Read 323 times)

There are others from Swedish Chamber of Commerce certified for modern art appraisal so I contacted one from that list and 2 other services provided by independent appraisers who are also certified with the chamber of commerce.

https://twitter.com/MarquiseMuseum/status/1375315334488547329




I did predict it:

Oh no... who could have possibly predicted this:

Or not! 

What's wrong with those art dealers?  They sell Cyberpunks and my kid could draw better digital art when he was 10.  One would think they would trip over themselves trying to sell our masterpieces.  Just think of the commissions they're missing out on.

Oh please, please Mr. Bukowski, don't you want to hang my $892m NFT in your Golden Horn?


One can only hope.

Tomorrow Bukowskis deliver asset appraisal for baseline reference to investors, creditors, speculators.

Either outcome will finally put an end to this fumbling and potential time waste.


update:



Jag har läst och tittat på det som du har skickat till mig.

Som det ser ut idag så arbetar inte Bukowskis med NFTs eller cryptokonst. I dagsläget har vi inga planer på att göra det framöver heller. Vi kan tyvärr inte värdera cryptokonst heller i dagsläget.

 

Jag förstår att det har varit svårt för dig att nå ut, men Bukowskis, som är ett auktionshus, är inte heller rätt väg att gå. Kan du inte höra av dig till NiftyGateway? De jobbar ju med det som du håller på med. Eller om de kan hänvisa dig vidare.

https://niftygateway.com/ Jag tänker att du måste hitta rätt personer och marknad som är insatta i det som du gör!



My reply:

Nifty och Christies svarar inte, kan ni framföra ett meddelande till [email protected] och [email protected] angående detta?

Bukowskis som auktionshus är rätt plats för att värdera detta. Ni har referenser från Beeple och Cryptopunks och detta kommer snart bli en etablerad och mycket värdefull marknad och då vill jag inte se att nya NFT konstnärer får förtur via er, när helt plötsligt spelreglerna ändras, och därefter säljer för miljoner på svenska marknaden.

Jag har levererat ett komplett arbetsunderlag.

Deloitte ringde mig i förmiddags och dom vill veta er bedömning. Jag skulle återkomma till den kontakten efter besked. Det är även flera investerare och spekulanter, långivare, som behöver något att arbeta utifrån.

I did:


Not sure what else do you expect in response to the absence of any kind of substantiation for the dollar amounts that you're throwing around.

You even posted in the other thread that you received no responses from appraisers and other people you sent e-mails to. I don't think you're capable of reflection but if you are you should probably reflect on that for a few minutes.

I have and the general gist is you think the world owes you a lot, "millions" from all over, according to you. Sometimes its for something as simple as not taking your advice. Sometimes you blame exchanges for conspiring against you (like Binance, for bad futures trades you made, but you deleted that thread). I find it to be a comedic outlook on life and I guess that's why I remember your posts.

But anyway, I have gotten off track from the subject at hand, and I have a question about that for you:

Has anyone ever redeemed a giclée from you with their tokens (whether it be WAVES, Turtle Network, or Ethereum)? I'm genuinely curious about that, and how the process works.

Thankful if you left some feeback on the documentation I presented.


Interesting if you actually studied the sources I submitted but of course this would be am impossible event, hence, outside my control.

Legendary or Hero means nothing. There is zero evidence of "value" that you speak of. You're posting massively cringy walls of text about how you want this to be worth millions but it obviously isn't. All of those exchanges and libraries and appraisers and other people you sent e-mails to (calling it conversations and partnership inquiries, really it's just spam) are laughing at this shit if it somehow even gets to an actual person.

At this point you must be either mentally unstable or trolling us. I hope it's the latter. This is not a good place for people with mental issues. Seek help if you need it.

I've found your pretentiousness to be humorous for a couple of years now, so thanks for that, and couldn't help but notice that there's an ongoing theme that runs through your post which you should know I don't think resonates with investors or actual business people.


Actually it is all on you to give investors a reason why they should buy your token or trust you will continue to develop the project. Nobody really cares what is whose fault -- that's up to you to handle before you start asking for money.

1. I agree with you, there is zero evidence of anything but DOA. However you dont know why this is, its not entirely my fault. I dont blame everyone else, but its not all on me. I am sure someone who is connected can restructure this into a valuable asset. stranger things have happened in business. This is a solo entreprenuer ICO with nearly 0$ backing. where t f did you expect it to land?

2. no value, no exchanges. Same reply as 1. But I must add that a $200m exchange offered partnership yesterday for $700 and many others offered listing but there is no money to pay for it. It is trading on Waves and TurtleNetwork and I kind of enjoy the DEX control over market making compared to centralized exchanges. I am unsure if anything lower than top 30 ranking will positively impact this project. I dont know if this is good cost/benefit which is why I have many times declined offers from top 50's. Of course, this is nothing you would know anything about because its backroom deals.

3. I disagree that it conned its way into CMC. On the contrary, they have been dragging out proper tracking for years and of course this is costing me visibility and traction. Eventually such blackballing becomes self fulfilling but remember, it is not all on me. This is stuff outside my control matrix.

4. I disagree, I believe it is innovative but NFTs as a concept is debatable. Swedish patent registry states that it IS innovative, should I listen to you or them? I honestly mean it because heroes and legendaries in here carry alot of weight in crypto. I focused on physical asset backing because I did not see a direct value in selling digital art. But this IS digital art and can easily be wrapped as NFT with what I believe can be spindoctored as competitive advantage whether real or not its up for speculative investors to argue. Waves did it with Defi and made x10. I dont see you blasting in their thread despite that some of their moves are really scammy as opposed to my project which is 100% unscammy, there is zero scammability here as you get what you pay for. Physically backed tokens are very solid in this regard, similar to stablecoins, you get what you pay for.

5. The second post below the main announcement was reserved for years until something of real importance could be pasted into it. I will consider your viewpoint on this, if you feel that is makes it appear "scammy". Perhaps people mistakenly think it is intended to appear as written in 2018 although that doesnt make any sense because in the post itself I explicity state that there was a march 21 update.
I will concede that noone saw NFTs exploding like this, everything was moving slowly until a few months ago. But to completely disregard this project because of that? No. I was clearly onto to something, and it is in fact close enough to be validated as a legit contribution.

selling digital art is an afterthought to the physical asset. In 2017 the focus was still on old world migration, and even today another poster refers to NFTs as scam. People would have laughed in my face if I tried to sell digital images back in 17. There was no where near technical competence for me to achieve anything remotely resembling these new NFT platforms. and the portfolio was not even ready for prime time. But if you study this project you will find that it is a puzzle containing alot of the founding blocks of NFT.

The first innovation is never like the polished outcome, this is true for all human achievements.

It's not like I wake up everyday thinking "If I only had considered selling a digital copy of my digital art without any form of solidity knowledge and without the portfolio being ready and probably selling it way too cheap, nevermind the fact that people will call me an idiot for doing it".

It's more like "Ok they want to try and expand using this concept, let's do that perhaps it is the right time". I predicted this outcome I did not know the exact specifics, I built around that vision.

If you are denying this contribution despite evidence, you are FUDDing or plain jelous. Or unable to recognize value but I know for a fact that that is not the case otherwise you would not be Legendary or Hero.

I will wait and see if the first mint will sell on Opensea, if the dev delivers the contract, if bukowskis actually delivers valuation (100% they wont, in which case I must sue).

It is possible that $5k opening price will indeed be to high because collectors maybe want to see the floor before being able to evaluate it. Mooncats when straight to $10m but its declining alot yesterday. $10m is not the same ballgame as $300m so it's obviously not going to happen overnight.

I may be capable of 30% LTV, up to $90m but margins are squeezed if collectors start converting into product. That would be a bitcointalk exclusive deal.

Only top 5 exchanges or elite corporations could sell this as a $300m asset. Even Nifty doesnt have that kind of firepower.

Anyone can bid on this NFT art but the problem is always generating enough visibility to build momentum and traction. Visibility is expensive.

tl;dr: you have a failed token ("failed" might be too generous, seems more like DOA) that has no value whatsoever, is not listed on any exchanges, although you somehow managed to con your way into CMC's "untracked listings". You want to make money by making it sound retroactively innovative. It's not. Editing old posts in your ICO thread just makes it look more scammy.

Well I am not rich yet, from this project.



ERC20, minted november 2017 with assistance from Minereum devs on Bitcointalk. Linking to the website:
https://etherscan.io/token/0xa4daae9552cd2390ee1dcdd1a76bc8d0eea22609?a=0xc742bce0c13e31f2bbec650d3a26058b64038832

Binance application email dated 2018-02-20. I dont remember when it was filed but it was probably a few weeks before that date:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.30671914

I can forward the original email on request. It was submitted to Swedish Department of Culture for archiving because its the earliest reference I have to crypto and art integration as the complete NFT book is linked in the application, and miraculously not deleted by me during website development over the years.

As you can see, this Binance filing is full of references to pioneering achievement, predicted many years before present. Of course I am not the only one at that time to understand economic implications of this tech, but in art collecting you simply gotta be first or among the very early contributors to matter long term. 99.9% of current NFTs will fail as generational store of wealth but its emergence is still a boon to the industry and artists for many reasons.

The earliest on chain reference is this message attachment from an airdrop campaign on waves, dated April 12, 2018:
https://wavesexplorer.com/tx/2RiaZQvcE2VVWmx5QgsUsM2zjqHbN9Urvpx58zcEtCtJ

It references the book, that the token is used as authenticator, and that it may be a store of value.

This is the waves token in question, launched 2017-12-21:
https://wavesexplorer.com/assets/ERoumA2EeSYf72XNo2u9DQHADFQSRXFoVEQPz7wgTog

As you can see supply is non reissuable and identical in sum 66k, to etherscan ERC20. Implying that it is a continuation of work on waves that originated on Ethereum but was abandoned due to technical complexity (I didnt understand ERC tech at the time, and still dont for the most part) and lack of distribution channels because exchange listing fees were exorbitant.

Patent study:
https://tc.prv.se/aktinsyn/servlet/akt/?lang=sv&ansnr=18001404

More Bitcointalk forum references to potential pioneering achievement, linking the ERC20 token address to commercial purpose:
https://docdro.id/fbY6USO

These are the earliest and most important sources to verify my claim.

Beyond 2019 there is really an escalation in documentation such as:

Waves trading activity involving multiple investors
CMC, Coingecko, Coincodex and many other aggregator inclusions
Multiple offers from top of the line exchanges and conversations. Apparently they see something you dont in this project.
Security audit
white paper
portfolio presentation
artist cooperation spanning years with studios and artists from all over the world working on portfolio enhancement
printing sources with multiple established companies from all over the world
partnership inquiries and VIP demos sent to dozens of invitees
conversations with museums, galleries, governments and other VIPs
Swedish Royal library archiving of print copies of the book
Business plans, progress updates, quarterly reports, social media sources going back to january 2018
The art source assets themselves is maybe 40-50gb comprising years of labour and curation, it began in 2015 and majority of 100 collages were created first half 2016. 22 creations are public and 30 unpublished.

The list goes on and on.

I'd say its pretty well established at this point. Anyone with an earlier deployment claim are free to present their sources but there arent many, a handful of 2017 NFTs and they will all be culturally important in the coming times just like pop art, cubism, surrealism.

I did not ignite the switch on this industry, I saw it coming and did everything in my area of competence to establish a solid track record for the artworks.

I think I succeeded and its solid asset collateral, but its highly illiquid right now.

I welcome anyone in here to pick this apart and provide opinion.

This is my moment of Triumph, it is not rocket science but it's a proud achievement to have cemented a founding block on the NFT movement.

It is only the beginning and NFTs will pale in comparison to AGI driven blockchain. I believe blockchain is Cyborg DNA which is why I bought Ethereum at $7. Yes, I still have that source too.

Collectors will speculate wildly on this portfolio because of its ambiguitiy as an NFT original. Its possible that there will be a premium the first few years but eventually its gonna move into the OG fold and appraise significantly. I blame my technical incompetence for this ambiguity its a double edged sword but in this case it may have played into my hands because otherwise I would sold for peanuts back in october. Same thing happened with eth in 2016, forgot about it until november 2017 came right into Bittrex cashed out.

You'd be rich then. I have no idea why you're still talking to us peasants here.


Actually there is absolutely nothing here. You haven't showed us ANYTHING, much less anything that would be worth a dollar or 300 million of them. You just posted a bunch of words.


That means nothing. I have BASIC code I've written 30 years ago. It's probably worth more than your token but then again, many things are worth more than zero.


In this case it would be the art that is priceless. Not the room or the muppet who painted the walls of the room. I doubt your ERC20 token is WW2 loot. I doubt ERC20 tokens existed back then.


Or we could look at this thread and keep laughing at your desperate attempt to sell your failed craptoken rebranded as "NFT" because your heard that "NFT" is cool today.

Understanding the NFT tech on a retail level is simple, technically I have no idea how these things operate. I also dont know anything about art appraisal likewise as you do. But contrary to our lack of knowledge on that subject matter, I actually went through the steps to get in contact with a professional exmainer at Bukowskis.They are looking into it, they expressed interest.

I will deploy a test NFT shortly because the solidity dev will customize a lootbox contract for Opensea. Opensea will then audit this contract and actually offered to promote the project on their platform. Soon I have more real world data to share, what if there is traction? what if this converts?

It's not exactly a black box anymore, it's after the fact, its pouring in hundreds of millions for select projects. I understand the ridicule say this was october 2020, but today? I really dont see how its founded. I dont expect awe and amazement but obviously there is something here.

The real success story here is complete luck to be technically incompetent and making the switch from ERC to waves in 2018 so all the noob hit and misses were made there. You think I am going to drop this ERC20 supply for peanuts after having witnessed this level of money movement. The pristine state of the ERC20 of which I recently regained 99.85% supply control in combination with finished product, product which is traceable back to early 2018 through a binance application link straight into the mother load of the artbook which showcases all NFTs in unehanced state. This is unheard of.

It's equivalent to uncovering a ww2 axis storage room filled with priceless art.

I didnt access ERC20 supply and was able to wrap it into NFT I wouldnt make the claim. But I have the pristine mint and the enhanced portfolio both in combination.

Look what the guys over at Cryptopunks discord did when they discovered mooncats? Look into opensea and see where they are trading at now that it was rescue wrapped. I was in the discord when they found mooncats, to say that there was demand is an understatement.

ranking top 100 piece of cake:

https://opensea.io/rankings

huge visibility:

https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/opensea.io

So you're saying it's ~10 DOGE in 2027 post-apocalyptic dollars... sounds fair.


Exactly. It's quite clear that you just picked some buzzwords without having the slightest idea about it.

It's a loan convertible into sale and its possible that second market royalties can cover interest even on large money. I just want to liquidate some USDT from this huge block of Illiquid asset. So LTV can be 10% such as $30m USDT on $300m collateralization.



Ask Beeple or Cryptopunks, th fuck do I know.

This is all new to me, and everyone else.

Beeples stuff up to everydays 11-12 is pretty shitty tbh.

My apologies but I'm not familiar with the Arabic language but now that you explain it, I can see the true meaning and the majesty of your artwork!
Is there any "Buy now" option cause it's more than obvious that it's worth every cent of it...

That's no way to start off the bidding!  And, you misinterpret the subtle creativity involved.  Those aren't middle fingers, they are the Arabic letters ن (noon) and ل (lam.)  Together they spell "nill," or "null," which we all know means "nothing."  Symbolism; that's what makes it art.  Kris Kristofferson said it best: "nothing ain't worth nothing, but it's free."  

But my art isn't free, it's worth 879 million dollars, and going up as we speak.  Now start bidding, god damnit.

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Well of course, it ain't Lynx art.

I have looked at it while drinking my afternoon "tea" thoroughly examined it and I can confirm that it is authentic. Not a single pixel is fake.

Still, you manage to draw the middle finger pretty good...

Oooh, I want in on the NFT art scam sale.  Here's my submission, I think it's worth $875m.  Yeah, that's millions.  Of dollars.



The hands are always the hardest part to draw.

This is just some ridiculous gobbledygook. "I have something worth $300m, trust me". Are you out of your fucking mind? Rhetorical question.

Since it's a sale (pre or after) why you ask for a loan (which isn't) and why anyone lends you? Go to the Digital Goods section and sell whatever you want to sell.

Disclaimer: If this is offensive to someone in this section, please pm me and I will update or remove it, before doing something dramatic. Thank you beforehand.

This project is many years old and contains book length documentation so I will make a bullet point summary of background, roadmap implementation, off chain resources, loan terms and liquidation/ownership transfer.

1. In November 2017, a 2016 digital art portfolio was integrated with blockchain and deployed using ERC20.

2. Because of technical illiteracy as an artist, I switched to Waves early 2018 because ease of use.

3. for the past 3 years alot of development trial and error was performed on waves while the original ERC20 asset remained pristine. I believe that this is a huge boon to the project that the ERC20 supply was not mismanaged by inexperience over these years.

4. In march 2021 I learned about NFTs and understood that here is something of potentially great value, considering cryptopunks $500m cap launched a mere 1xx days before my own art asset.

5. I did some archiving and found the Etherscan for this ERC20 2017 mint, and shortly after regained control over 99.85% of supply through private key access.

6. As you may expect, a deep expansion strategy involving multiple parties on and offchain is now underway and the NFTs are curated for Opensea launch.

7. When wrapped NFT code is delivered to me in a few days and audited by Opensea staff, I am willing to offer Bitcointalk Legendaries and Heroes ownership of this project before it is deployed into open market.

8. The reason I am doing this is to test market response while de facto offering this collateral to lenders in the forum. This market probe is combined with offchain examination by Swedish auction house for appraisal.

I would like to know your terms for collateralizing this $300m OG NFT Asset and am willing to transfer it to the best bidder and possibly converting it into sale depending on your preference. Wholesale borrower with favorable terms will receive subsidized NFTs that will retail at $5k per unit. I can offer large discount for any significant long term, interest only, USDT loan.

Considering the sums of money involved, this loan is expected to default into ownership transaction so consider it more of a pre sale. I believe that there may be something of value here so if no one wants it, I simply continue development until it pays.

I am trading future potential profit for payment today. Please send your offers here or by pm. Retail asset value is like I said $300m but of course your deal will be favorable ltv but I cant go too low because one reason for this valuation is that NFTs can be redeemed into physical assets so there is a base manufacturing cost behind it which is a fairly significant chunk of the $5k unit price.

Let me know what you require to verify this claim, I have all documents in order and they were already delivered to reputable auction house in Sweden two days ago in preparation for appraisal.

There are two negatives I can add right away: I have not received any feedback from institutional lenders such as Lazard investment bank, and curated NFT gateways remain unresponsive to application filing. This situation may or may not change depending on outcome of auction house appraisal. I have also contacted NEXO but did not yet receive a reply.

ICO in 2019 was $5k funding in exchange for 0.1% of portfolio. Buyers were Russians on waves. NFTs hadn't yet exploded at this point in time.

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