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Quote from: BrewMaster on December 06, 2019, 11:06:09 PM

why don't people read what was said in other comments before replying Cheesy

the ONLY problem here is the encoding of the signature that when it generates r and s, r is 32 bytes, s is 31 bytes. it doesn't pad s so it ends up with a 64 (1+32+31) byte signature instead of 65 (1+32+(1+31)).

if you change that, the signature becomes valid. try the following and see for yourself:

Code:

IFkS40AxIuRGDN/vnjwavfV6R00h3MKArtDB7tpBbnqIADHOlkhiEJv8JuJTeyVW2Oo23jH9u8fFTqiOms4MM9k=

this is NOT a problem with Electrum, at least not the new versions. i DID test it with my own key and brute forced a signature with a smaller r or s and it DID generate the right signature encoding.

Quote from: BrewMaster on December 06, 2019, 09:23:50 AM

Quote from: GarikHost on December 06, 2019, 08:23:34 AM

3. the signature I get: IFkS40AxIuRGDN/vnjwavfV6R00h3MKArtDB7tpBbnqIMc6WSGIQm/wm4lN7JVbY6jbeMf27x8VOqI6azgwz2Q==

your signature length is invalid, it should have been 65 bytes but what you posted here is only 64 bytes which means it is missing 1 byte.

this should not have happened, i can't see any bugs that could lead to this either. are you sure that you have not modified the signature yourself?

Right, in fact I have said the same

Quote from: naska21 on December 06, 2019, 12:50:09 PM

.. might be some strange combination of characters that mislead Electrum's signer.

but you are more specific and precise.

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Quote from: BitMaxz on December 05, 2019, 04:10:08 PM

What version of Electrum you currently using?

Quote from: GarikHost on December 06, 2019, 08:23:34 AM

I use the latest version of Electrum 3.3.8 downloaded from https://electrum.org/

Quote from: BitMaxz on December 06, 2019, 03:38:52 PM

Can you tell us what version of the electrum you currently use?

Can you tell us why are you repeating the same question on which you already got the answer? The OP clearly states that he is using the latest version of the Electrum downloaded from the official website. The problem, in this case, is not the fake version or version 3.3.4.

BrewMaster has obviously found the problem, maybe it just needs to be explained more simply to OP so he can change what need to be changed.

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why don't people read what was said in other comments before replying Cheesy

the ONLY problem here is the encoding of the signature that when it generates r and s, r is 32 bytes, s is 31 bytes. it doesn't pad s so it ends up with a 64 (1+32+31) byte signature instead of 65 (1+32+(1+31)).

if you change that, the signature becomes valid. try the following and see for yourself:

Code:

IFkS40AxIuRGDN/vnjwavfV6R00h3MKArtDB7tpBbnqIADHOlkhiEJv8JuJTeyVW2Oo23jH9u8fFTqiOms4MM9k=

this is NOT a problem with Electrum, at least not the new versions. i DID test it with my own key and brute forced a signature with a smaller r or s and it DID generate the right signature encoding.

Quote from: BrewMaster on December 06, 2019, 09:23:50 AM

Quote from: GarikHost on December 06, 2019, 08:23:34 AM

3. the signature I get: IFkS40AxIuRGDN/vnjwavfV6R00h3MKArtDB7tpBbnqIMc6WSGIQm/wm4lN7JVbY6jbeMf27x8VOqI6azgwz2Q==

your signature length is invalid, it should have been 65 bytes but what you posted here is only 64 bytes which means it is missing 1 byte.

this should not have happened, i can't see any bugs that could lead to this either. are you sure that you have not modified the signature yourself?

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note there is no standard for signing messages with bc1 addresses so if you use electrum to generate the signature the challenger also has to use electrum to verify it.

Quote from: BitMaxz on December 06, 2019, 03:38:52 PM

Quote from: GarikHost on December 06, 2019, 02:03:07 PM

If I remove or change any symbol in the message it gets signed correctly with no problem. But the original message still has an issue.

Can you tell us what version of the electrum you currently use?
This is an old issue of old electrum version lower than 3.3.4 if you can use the latest version of Electrum I tried the message you are trying to sign and verify.
It's all fine to me so maybe you are using old version of Electrum that is why you are having an issue with verifying a signed message.

Yes this is probably it: https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/pull/5210

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Probably not the best solution by try signing it with Coinb.in[1]. Optionally run it offline (highly recommended) and in the "Sign" tab, get the address' private key and use it to sign the message. Then verify it with Electrum or BrainWallet.

I'm not sure if it supports bech32 addresses (bc1...) tho.

[1] https://github.com/OutCast3k/coinbin

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Quote from: GarikHost on December 06, 2019, 02:03:07 PM

If I remove or change any symbol in the message it gets signed correctly with no problem. But the original message still has an issue.

Can you tell us what version of the electrum you currently use?
This is an old issue of old electrum version lower than 3.3.4 if you can use the latest version of Electrum I tried the message you are trying to sign and verify.
It's all fine to me so maybe you are using old version of Electrum that is why you are having an issue with verifying a signed message.

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Quote from: TryNinja on December 06, 2019, 03:29:30 PM

Ok, you can’t verify it on Electrum. But does the message appear as valid when you use it in whatever you are trying to sign it for? (The bounty/bot that gives you the claimed coins, which is what you are trying to do?)

I tried checking on http://brainwalletx.github.io and it also went wrong. I think it's an error in signing process.

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Quote from: TryNinja on December 06, 2019, 03:29:30 PM

Ok, you can’t verify it on Electrum. But does the message appear as valid when you use it in whatever you are trying to sign it for? (The bounty/bot that gives you the claimed coins, which is what you are trying to do?)

No, it doesn't accept it and says "A valid Bitcoin signature is required!".
But it worked very well with other 2 addresses.
Only this one has such problem.

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Ok, you can’t verify it on Electrum. But does the message appear as valid when you use it in whatever you are trying to sign it for? (The bounty/bot that gives you the claimed coins, which is what you are trying to do?)

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Quote from: naska21 on December 06, 2019, 12:50:09 PM

Quote from: GarikHost on December 06, 2019, 11:33:54 AM

Quote from: naska21 on December 06, 2019, 09:35:36 AM

Quote from: GarikHost on December 05, 2019, 03:02:05 PM

When I sign the message with one of my BTC addresses on Electrum and then verify it on the same wallet it says "wrong signature". The same message signed with other BTC addresses is correct. How to resolve this issue?
The address is native segwit (starts with bc1).

It might be a copy-paste issue.If you have created the message by some text redactor like WORD and transfer in to Electrum via copy-paste then It might be messed with reserved character. Try to put you message into Electrum by using keyboard.

Thank you for your advice.
I tried to put the message by using keyboard, but it didn't help.
The message is still the same and incorrect.

There is still no common standard to sign from bc1 address... so might be some strange combination of characters that mislead Electrum's signer... could you sign if HEX string in your message would be removed?

If I remove or change any symbol in the message it gets signed correctly with no problem. But the original message still has an issue.

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Quote from: Loganota on December 06, 2019, 01:35:20 PM

Quote from: naska21 on December 06, 2019, 12:50:09 PM

There is still no common standard to sign from bc1 address... so might be some strange combination of characters that mislead Electrum's signer... could you sign if HEX string in your message would be removed?

There's no problem with message. I signed the same message using my address and everything went well.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Claim_HEX_to_0x3A72cA4d32d272CC02832F4096a40C2c326DfFfb
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
bc1q9yfe07gfytzf200qqg6cm3wkugdmts6tj4myhc
HzeFm8xePVWoN59+HinI04kEzUQONqwWaWMpzzMWkhi7DNhIUkVjSCj5soGp6DkUEVxo8uslcm03kRUKpXV+W3I=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Quote from: GarikHost on December 06, 2019, 11:33:54 AM

Thank you for your advice.
I tried to put the message by using keyboard, but it didn't help.
The message is still the same and incorrect.

As soon as you generate the signature, Electrum allows you to click the verify signature button. Do you still get the "wrong signature" message?

Yes, exactly, it is the case. As soon as I generate the signature, and push "verify" it says "wrong signature"

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Quote from: naska21 on December 06, 2019, 12:50:09 PM

There is still no common standard to sign from bc1 address... so might be some strange combination of characters that mislead Electrum's signer... could you sign if HEX string in your message would be removed?

There's no problem with message. I signed the same message using my address and everything went well.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Claim_HEX_to_0x3A72cA4d32d272CC02832F4096a40C2c326DfFfb
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
bc1q9yfe07gfytzf200qqg6cm3wkugdmts6tj4myhc
HzeFm8xePVWoN59+HinI04kEzUQONqwWaWMpzzMWkhi7DNhIUkVjSCj5soGp6DkUEVxo8uslcm03kRUKpXV+W3I=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Quote from: GarikHost on December 06, 2019, 11:33:54 AM

Thank you for your advice.
I tried to put the message by using keyboard, but it didn't help.
The message is still the same and incorrect.

As soon as you generate the signature, Electrum allows you to click the verify signature button. Do you still get the "wrong signature" message?

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Quote from: GarikHost on December 06, 2019, 11:33:54 AM

Quote from: naska21 on December 06, 2019, 09:35:36 AM

Quote from: GarikHost on December 05, 2019, 03:02:05 PM

When I sign the message with one of my BTC addresses on Electrum and then verify it on the same wallet it says "wrong signature". The same message signed with other BTC addresses is correct. How to resolve this issue?
The address is native segwit (starts with bc1).

It might be a copy-paste issue.If you have created the message by some text redactor like WORD and transfer in to Electrum via copy-paste then It might be messed with reserved character. Try to put you message into Electrum by using keyboard.

Thank you for your advice.
I tried to put the message by using keyboard, but it didn't help.
The message is still the same and incorrect.

There is still no common standard to sign from bc1 address... so might be some strange combination of characters that mislead Electrum's signer... could you sign if HEX string in your message would be removed?

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Quote from: naska21 on December 06, 2019, 09:35:36 AM

Quote from: GarikHost on December 05, 2019, 03:02:05 PM

When I sign the message with one of my BTC addresses on Electrum and then verify it on the same wallet it says "wrong signature". The same message signed with other BTC addresses is correct. How to resolve this issue?
The address is native segwit (starts with bc1).

It might be a copy-paste issue.If you have created the message by some text redactor like WORD and transfer in to Electrum via copy-paste then It might be messed with reserved character. Try to put you message into Electrum by using keyboard.

Thank you for your advice.
I tried to put the message by using keyboard, but it didn't help.
The message is still the same and incorrect.

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Quote from: naska21 on December 06, 2019, 09:35:36 AM

It might be a copy-paste issue.If you have created the message by some text redactor like WORD and transfer in to Electrum via copy-paste then It might be messed with reserved character. Try to put you message into Electrum by using keyboard.

this can not be a copy paste error!
as i said above your comment, the only problem here is in his signature byte length is invalid. and since the signature string is in base64 it could not have happened by accident. since accidental modification of base64 will most probably lead to invalid encoding!

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Quote from: GarikHost on December 05, 2019, 03:02:05 PM

When I sign the message with one of my BTC addresses on Electrum and then verify it on the same wallet it says "wrong signature". The same message signed with other BTC addresses is correct. How to resolve this issue?
The address is native segwit (starts with bc1).

It might be a copy-paste issue.If you have created the message by some text redactor like WORD and transfer in to Electrum via copy-paste then It might be messed with reserved character. Try to put you message into Electrum by using keyboard.

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Quote from: GarikHost on December 06, 2019, 08:23:34 AM

3. the signature I get: IFkS40AxIuRGDN/vnjwavfV6R00h3MKArtDB7tpBbnqIMc6WSGIQm/wm4lN7JVbY6jbeMf27x8VOqI6azgwz2Q==

your signature length is invalid, it should have been 65 bytes but what you posted here is only 64 bytes which means it is missing 1 byte.

this should not have happened, i can't see any bugs that could lead to this either. are you sure that you have not modified the signature yourself?

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Quote from: GarikHost on December 06, 2019, 08:23:34 AM

Here are more details:
1. The message I try to sign: Claim_HEX_to_0x3A72cA4d32d272CC02832F4096a40C2c326DfFfb
2. the address I use: bc1q63tz9rvlnjxpz39nvueuu49t6m7cygfynj6krw
3. the signature I get: IFkS40AxIuRGDN/vnjwavfV6R00h3MKArtDB7tpBbnqIMc6WSGIQm/wm4lN7JVbY6jbeMf27x8VOqI6azgwz2Q==

"Wrong Signature" at my end, too. Probably bad copy->paste of the signature or message...

Anyways, you can just sign the same message again, it should give you the correct signature.
Electrum will provide the same signature when given the same message, if it's still the same, this must be a bug.

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Quote from: Loganota on December 05, 2019, 03:39:51 PM

You need to provide more details, I have already signed and checked many messages using Electrum with Legacy and Segwit addresses. Is your sign generated normally? Have you tried to verify this message in another verifier?

Try putting your message / address / sign here so we can test as well.

Here are more details:
1. The message I try to sign: Claim_HEX_to_0x3A72cA4d32d272CC02832F4096a40C2c326DfFfb
2. the address I use: bc1q63tz9rvlnjxpz39nvueuu49t6m7cygfynj6krw
3. the signature I get: IFkS40AxIuRGDN/vnjwavfV6R00h3MKArtDB7tpBbnqIMc6WSGIQm/wm4lN7JVbY6jbeMf27x8VOqI6azgwz2Q==

When I push "Verify the message" it says "Wrong signature".

It works well with all other BTC addresses, but not with this one.
Also, it works well with other messages and with this address.

I use the latest version of Electrum 3.3.8 downloaded from https://electrum.org/

Thank you.

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I just tried it using the latest version, sign then verify using Electrum and it worked just fine.

Did you mean "using the same address" not wallet?
Because if you tried to verify a messaged signed with a bech32/nested SegWit address to other clients, it will fail to verify.

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Quote from: GarikHost on December 05, 2019, 03:02:05 PM

When I sign the message with one of my BTC addresses on Electrum and then verify it on the same wallet it says "wrong signature". The same message signed with other BTC addresses is correct.

I don't know what is your true issues because you did not describe yours in enough details.

One advice I can give you is:
When you sign a message, any minor difference in contents of your message (in characters, space, line break, ie.) will result in different signature (with a same bitcoin address). Among them, space is hard to discover, and people can unintentionally make space in their message.

In Electrum, you can see there are three sections (when signing a message):

1) Message
2) Address
3) Signature

As being said, the most common issue comes from the first section. You can try it (with a same address) with three following contents:
1.1. I am user A, userid = x, today is y, and I sign the message
1.2. I am user A, userid = x, today is y, and I sign the message
1.3. I am user a, my userid = x, today is y, and I sign the message

Noticing the additional one more space in the 1.2. (user A, instead of user A in 1.1). You will get different signatures and yeah when you verify it later, you might get failed results.

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What version of Electrum you currently using?
I tried verifying the sign message in my Electrum 3.3.4 it's working fine without issue.

You might be using a fake Electrum so tell us if where did you download the Electrum installer(It should be downloaded from electrum.org)? and let us know if what OS you are using?

If you are using the orig Electrum try to use the latest version of Electrum and test it again.

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You need to provide more details, I have already signed and checked many messages using Electrum with Legacy and Segwit addresses. Is your sign generated normally? Have you tried to verify this message in another verifier?

Try putting your message / address / sign here so we can test as well.

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When I sign the message with one of my BTC addresses on Electrum and then verify it on the same wallet it says "wrong signature". The same message signed with other BTC addresses is correct. How to resolve this issue?
The address is native segwit (starts with bc1).

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