Topic: WTB 2 BTC @ $560 -- Escrow or LocalBitcoins (Read 1692 times)

This is just a note (to use as a reference in the trust system) to say that takagari's BTC came through. I got 0.97 BTC for (IIRC) $360 CAN.

Will trade again!

... I think you owe me an apology ....

sounds like a scam to me

sounds like a scam to me

I'm not even sure what an OTC is. lol

I've sent takagari $50 CAN and received 0.1386 BTC in exchange. I'm happy with the deal and will use this post for the trust system.

Hope to do more trades later.

https://www.rbcroyalbank.com/onlinebanking/bankingusertips/payments/payclient.html

Maybe you should call Royal Bank, since you're so concerned, and tell them their website contains multiple errors of fact?

That is fine. People are allowed to make mistakes. When they do they should admit to making as such.

The op was quoting the website, which states this.
He was not aware of the fact, that if he were using a stollen account. it could be recovered etc.

One can not simply pull funds as easy as with paypal

If you are willing to wait 30 days to receive bitcoin then I think you owe me an apology for claiming that I was spreading FUD about the reversibility of your payment methods, as it is an essential admission that they can be reversed 

Ok, please PM me your account number and I'll transfer over $50. Seems like a happy median.

When you feel comfortable, you can transfer the bitcoins to 1FSY17fTVgFSsdgv821wzgCtmNnHeWZqPL which is the well-known public address for BearMining. Let's set the time at 30 days. If you don't transfer the bitcoins to that address within 30 days you will need to send the $50 back to me. Deal?

I could of done that yes, I'd do a $50 or $100 trade for that matter, it would allow us to both build up trust.

I could of done that yes, I'd do a $50 or $100 trade for that matter, it would allow us to both build up trust.

Never went off what vod said for a second, he's clearly a dipshit.

I was explaining, or trying to, why people will not take it.  It could be a stolen account.
I'd be up for a small trade, and than a wait and see.

For that matter leave it in escrow and I could call rbc after for verification.

I simply asked you to prove you owned the account.

My only Neg is from the same guy who said you were buying trust, Lol.

And I frankly don't care what a website say's.

Account to account has a paper trail, if you use a stollen bank account to send the money, when they investigate they will claw it back.

Unless your able to prove it is In fact YOUR bank account. Anyone would be an idiot to send for that, and frankly, localbitcoins is full of sucker's who get scammed.

You never did provide the links to your other accounts.

I never left you a neg rating. I'm saying your throwing flag's and someone might.

Problem Solved

Just got off the phone with RBC.

Client to Client is the same as EMT, It can be argued and potentially reversed the exact same as an EMT.

Sorry.

Want to take a picture of you, holding your id, clearly visible with your name and a note saying "I'm sending such and such X dollars on X date"

As stated above RBC client to client is not a irreversible method.

From http://www.reba.net/news/wtransfer---snipped---

Huh?

You do realize that int'l SWIFT and RBC client-client are irreversible direct deposit methods?

I'm going to have to ask you to explain your FUD, you've been following me around for a while now, and I don't appreciate it. Please explain to me what you are doing in my thread making statements that people won't receive money for an escrow'd SWIFT/BTC transaction, thank you.

The ability of a sender to recall a wire hinges primarily on whether or not the payment order has been accepted by the receiving bank. The reason for this is that the general rule under 4A is that a cancellation order is effective as long as it is received at a time and in a manner that affords a receiving bank a reasonable opportunity to act on the cancellation order before the receiving bank accepts the order. Put another way, as long as the seller’s bank hasn’t accepted the payment order, chances are good that the buyer can reverse the wire. However, after acceptance by the seller’s bank occurs, the scales tip in favor of the seller; cancellation orders are generally ineffective. The key time for a seller therefore, is the point in time at which it’s bank accepts the payment order.

The rules regarding acceptance of a payment order are set out in §4A-209. §4A-209 sets out a couple of different events which will trigger acceptance of a payment order. As far as a seller is concerned, by far the most important trigger is set out in §4A-209(b)(1) which basically states that the beneficiary’s bank accepts a payment order when it pays the beneficiary or notifies the beneficiary that it’s account has been credited. Therefore, once a seller or seller’s counsel learns or is notified by it’s bank that funds have been credited to their account, the seller can safely assume that the payment order has been accepted and that therefore, the funds cannot be recalled.

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§4A-211(c)(2) states that cancellation of a payment order after acceptance by the beneficiary’s bank is only available in instances where the payment was unauthorized or there was a mistake by the sender and that mistake falls into one of three categories: (i) duplicate payment, (ii) payment to a person or entity not entitled to the funds, or (iii) payment which resulted in the beneficiary receiving more that they were entitled to. The effect of this language is to take issues such as buyer’s remorse completely off the table and legally limit the instances where a buyer can even attempt to recall funds already credited to the seller’s account to only those instances where the buyer can make a claim that the seller received funds to which it was not entitled.

Huh?

You do realize that int'l SWIFT and RBC client-client are irreversible direct deposit methods?

I'm going to have to ask you to explain your FUD, you've been following me around for a while now, and I don't appreciate it. Please explain to me what you are doing in my thread making statements that people won't receive money for an escrow'd SWIFT/BTC transaction, thank you.

There is no way the person selling Bitcoin will actually receive money for this.

Are you paying in USD? Would you be willing to pay by a less reversable method?