Topic: WTB - Im looking for 2BTC - Paypal - Gox price (Read 3323 times)
i just made another trade with him waiting for coins will update if any issues.
I already had ordered from this selller two days ago an amount of 1.5 BTC and everything worked fine.
Also I tried this seller last week when I was ordering just a small amount of 0.2 BTC and it also worked great.
Cindi32
Also I tried this seller last week when I was ordering just a small amount of 0.2 BTC and it also worked great.
Cindi32
Cindi32/bitcoiner222:
Again, if you can, either one of you should be able to post the transaction IDs showing the transfers of the 1.5 BTC and the 0.2 BTC mentioned above.
Second transfer on 18/11/2013
For the 1.5 BTC
https://blockchain.info/de/tx/13b5eb50243854d9591c32e6f46204bab0c0a00b30d92d4cc573305ba27c9f0d (here I used two wallets, because the first one was getting empty)
His adresses:
17pPCEH6UsACyH7GaSzdS8mUrUtpxdeAML
1PXYrZcAoAYMZN83i7S8h1bYxeCWtzcf4R
First transaction on 15/11/13
https://blockchain.info/de/tx/2d17ad1d483744220a6927648b370a4c71c9852ffb09bcbfa9121958b4e68fd4
His adress: 1MLFAd2bfZv97FXoK4LiyPJiU4FRk1PDaQ
Hope that I could help you with that.
Cheers
Bitcoiner222
I already had ordered from this selller two days ago an amount of 1.5 BTC and everything worked fine.
Also I tried this seller last week when I was ordering just a small amount of 0.2 BTC and it also worked great.
Cindi32
Also I tried this seller last week when I was ordering just a small amount of 0.2 BTC and it also worked great.
Cindi32
Cindi32/bitcoiner222:
Again, if you can, either one of you should be able to post the transaction IDs showing the transfers of the 1.5 BTC and the 0.2 BTC mentioned above.
No one is a sock puppet of me.
I simply sold Excdeus and cindi32 BTC, but I am not someone who is haveing sock puppets just to get a good rating.
I could show you here the posts of Exdeus for example:
I simply sold Excdeus and cindi32 BTC, but I am not someone who is haveing sock puppets just to get a good rating.
I could show you here the posts of Exdeus for example:
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im looking to do around £150 worth via paypal if thats ok with you?
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how many coins will the £150 get payment will come from my paypal do you have sykpe as i would like a long term thing with you.
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From cindi32:
Think that should be enough.
Cheers
Bitcoiner222
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AXXXX XXXXX, you have sent £150.00 GBP to XXXX XXXX.
1753wGKmdA7yAjvt4A9oDB4F2z3JCiennD+
1753wGKmdA7yAjvt4A9oDB4F2z3JCiennD+
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done, will need you again soon i think 
From cindi32:
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hi, could i buy btc from you. need 1.5 btc soon.
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ok, payment was sended to your adress
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i am awaiting
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thanks. will rate your trust soon.
Think that should be enough.
Cheers
Bitcoiner222
...illegal currency...
What are you talking about here? Provide a link to prove your assertion that Bitcoin is in any way illegal or delete your unfounded FUD.
If he sent the coins, surely he could post the TxID, no?
I already had contacted the lawyer of our company, because HE IS A SCAMMER!
I had prepared to send him the BTC, but my wallet checks every single transaction manually, so it could takes a few hours until he would had received them. But after just a half hour he uses the "Chargeback"-option of PayPal. That is not fair because I already had paid for the transaction.
Other users are posting positive feedback (look at the "BTC-Exchange.info"-thread in "Project Development".
SCAMMER, DO NOT TRADE WITH HIM!!!
Cheers
Bitcoiner222
Really, honestly, lawyer?
What the heck is he going to do, I bet you do not even have one, and since this is a digital and an illegal currency you have nothing to stand on.
Sent .6BTC
Successful transaction for .6BTC
Thank You Sir
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Name: bitcoiner222
Posts: 42
Activity: 28
Position: Member
Date Registered: November 08, 2013, 03:49:07 PM
Last Active: Today at 08:42:33 PM
Name: Exdeus
Posts: 54
Activity: 54
Position: Member
Date Registered: June 22, 2011, 11:08:05 PM
Last Active: Today at 08:06:05 PM
Name: cindi32
Posts: 10
Activity: 10
Position: Jr. Member
Date Registered: November 14, 2013, 12:21:56 PM
Last Active: Today at 08:51:29 PM
Posts: 42
Activity: 28
Position: Member
Date Registered: November 08, 2013, 03:49:07 PM
Last Active: Today at 08:42:33 PM
Name: Exdeus
Posts: 54
Activity: 54
Position: Member
Date Registered: June 22, 2011, 11:08:05 PM
Last Active: Today at 08:06:05 PM
Name: cindi32
Posts: 10
Activity: 10
Position: Jr. Member
Date Registered: November 14, 2013, 12:21:56 PM
Last Active: Today at 08:51:29 PM
Cindi32 is a fairly obvious sock puppet of bitcoiner222, Exdeus is another matter.
interesting
im not sticking up for any one i was just showing that i have traded with him and the trade went well.
so before you even suggest im a scammer.. or i have any links to them, here is a link to my bitmit: https://www.bitmit.net/user/exdeus
*IF any one wants to buy youtube, facebook likes, twitter fans hit me up via PM*
so before you even suggest im a scammer.. or i have any links to them, here is a link to my bitmit: https://www.bitmit.net/user/exdeus
*IF any one wants to buy youtube, facebook likes, twitter fans hit me up via PM*
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Name: bitcoiner222
Posts: 42
Activity: 28
Position: Member
Date Registered: November 08, 2013, 03:49:07 PM
Last Active: Today at 08:42:33 PM
Name: Exdeus
Posts: 54
Activity: 54
Position: Member
Date Registered: June 22, 2011, 11:08:05 PM
Last Active: Today at 08:06:05 PM
Name: cindi32
Posts: 10
Activity: 10
Position: Jr. Member
Date Registered: November 14, 2013, 12:21:56 PM
Last Active: Today at 08:51:29 PM
Posts: 42
Activity: 28
Position: Member
Date Registered: November 08, 2013, 03:49:07 PM
Last Active: Today at 08:42:33 PM
Name: Exdeus
Posts: 54
Activity: 54
Position: Member
Date Registered: June 22, 2011, 11:08:05 PM
Last Active: Today at 08:06:05 PM
Name: cindi32
Posts: 10
Activity: 10
Position: Jr. Member
Date Registered: November 14, 2013, 12:21:56 PM
Last Active: Today at 08:51:29 PM
Cindi32 is a fairly obvious sock puppet of bitcoiner222, Exdeus is another matter.
I just looked up this thread because I just had the following situation:
I posted that I wanted to buy .09 BTC via verified Paypal. I got a PM from Cindi32 (who posted earlier in this thread) saying ok, but I needed to send the funds first. Cindi has like 10 posts. So then I asked for a reference because Cindi indicated they have done other transactions. Cindi sent back the names....
bitcoiner222 and Exdeus.
So, and this is speculation, yet an educated speculation, I'd be careful about Cindi32. Obviously, I have the PMs saved to prove this happened.
Edit: Now I notice Exdeus is sticking up for bitcoiner222 as well. Wow.
I posted that I wanted to buy .09 BTC via verified Paypal. I got a PM from Cindi32 (who posted earlier in this thread) saying ok, but I needed to send the funds first. Cindi has like 10 posts. So then I asked for a reference because Cindi indicated they have done other transactions. Cindi sent back the names....
bitcoiner222 and Exdeus.
So, and this is speculation, yet an educated speculation, I'd be careful about Cindi32. Obviously, I have the PMs saved to prove this happened.
Edit: Now I notice Exdeus is sticking up for bitcoiner222 as well. Wow.
Bitcoiner222:
Are you now claiming that you issued a refund of the PayPal funds back to Stevenrm87? If you did, that was the right thing to do.
Are you now claiming that you issued a refund of the PayPal funds back to Stevenrm87? If you did, that was the right thing to do.
i sent him paypal payment and i did get the coins.. my post can be found
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wtb-btc-for-paypal-337740
i also left positive feedback for the user.
my transaction took place about 2 hours before this "scam" took place. it took him around 40 mins to send the coins not sure why you did a chargeback so fast you could have waited a few hours. As you made the chargeback so fast i would have thought you warrant a scammertag. This is based on my experince with the seller.
OK, fine, maybe he should not have done the chargeback so fast, stated above several times and now assumed a given.https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wtb-btc-for-paypal-337740
i also left positive feedback for the user.
my transaction took place about 2 hours before this "scam" took place. it took him around 40 mins to send the coins not sure why you did a chargeback so fast you could have waited a few hours. As you made the chargeback so fast i would have thought you warrant a scammertag. This is based on my experince with the seller.
At this point that is water under the bridge. Both parties agree that the BTC were never sent. Therefore the seller should immediatly refund the PayPal USD and we can put this all behind us. Why has he not issued a refund? Why all the bluster about lawyers, etc? He has no reason to not issue the refund.
All this calling each other scammer is total bullshit. However:
I would not do business with the buyer since he is so "trigger happy" with the chargeback.
I would not do business with the seller as he has not issued the refund and most likely is using a sockpuppet to try and bolster his "case" whatever that is.
Me calling him a scammer is not bullshit. He still has refused to send my USD back via paypal. I have nothing, which = scammed. Plus, he broke written agreement to "immediately send BTC upon receipt of paypal payment. He broke this agreement by telling me to wait till next day AFTER I PAID. THAT ALONE is enough to call off the deal (again I recevied no BTC).
I gave him an out. I told him to just refund my payment and we each move on. He refused, He is a scammer. Nuff said
I always would get in trouble with them because of the chargeback function.
There are much more easier methods to scam, really.
So where is your problem that you will not remove the posted rating of me (-6)?
I resended you the money via PayPal of course a short time after that problem, you have the money, you had no lost money or any other problems now. WHERE IS YOUR PROBLEM THEN?
Why should we not be just normal users again, you will remove my rating, I remove yours.
And I could not be a scammer. Why where the short time when we published www.BTC-Exchange.info so many happy costumers with exchanging over 5.000 USD (details in another thread)? Some of them are currently posting in this thread.
Please think about just return to a normal user without trouble anywhere.
Cheers
Bitcoiner222
Sent .6BTC
Awesome. I hope everything works out and I want to sincerely thank this thread for talking me out of buying BTC with PayPal... not that I was all that into it in the first place...
the problem is that if he waited days and the guy is a scammer by then he would have already taken the money out of the paypal account then the sender is stuck with nothing because paypal will not reimburse you from their own pocket they take the money back from the receivers account but if the receiver has no funds in their paypal account the account just goes negative and the sender is left with nothing ive had this happen to me before in the past i was just stuck with nothing
you can cash out with paypal in 30 seconds as soon as funds land so he would be in the same boat. If he was going to be scammed it would have happend as soon as he sent payment. so waiting 24 hours wouldnt have changed anything.
you cannot if you using a paypal debit card there is a daily limit if you are sending funds to your bank it takes 2-3 days
Takes me 30 seconds to get it into my bank in the UK.
Update - I received a full refund. I dont know if he reversed the payments himself or paypal did it.
Status:
This claim has been decided in your favor and you'll receive a refund
In the end Im out nothing, but, a lesson has been learned.
Status:
This claim has been decided in your favor and you'll receive a refund
In the end Im out nothing, but, a lesson has been learned.
im glad it was resolved
So.. can steven Bitcoiner222 get a tag? He does have sockpuppets.. Cindi's already been busted in a lie..
FYI I know a plethora of females who trade btc.
Get your sockpuppet master right.FYI I know a plethora of females who trade btc.
Haha thanks
Update - I received a full refund. I dont know if he reversed the payments himself or paypal did it.
Status:
This claim has been decided in your favor and you'll receive a refund
In the end Im out nothing, but, a lesson has been learned.
Status:
This claim has been decided in your favor and you'll receive a refund
In the end Im out nothing, but, a lesson has been learned.
the problem is that if he waited days and the guy is a scammer by then he would have already taken the money out of the paypal account then the sender is stuck with nothing because paypal will not reimburse you from their own pocket they take the money back from the receivers account but if the receiver has no funds in their paypal account the account just goes negative and the sender is left with nothing ive had this happen to me before in the past i was just stuck with nothing
you can cash out with paypal in 30 seconds as soon as funds land so he would be in the same boat. If he was going to be scammed it would have happend as soon as he sent payment. so waiting 24 hours wouldnt have changed anything.
you cannot if you using a paypal debit card there is a daily limit if you are sending funds to your bank it takes 2-3 days
the problem is that if he waited days and the guy is a scammer by then he would have already taken the money out of the paypal account then the sender is stuck with nothing because paypal will not reimburse you from their own pocket they take the money back from the receivers account but if the receiver has no funds in their paypal account the account just goes negative and the sender is left with nothing ive had this happen to me before in the past i was just stuck with nothing
you can cash out with paypal in 30 seconds as soon as funds land so he would be in the same boat. If he was going to be scammed it would have happend as soon as he sent payment. so waiting 24 hours wouldnt have changed anything.
the problem is that if he waited days and the guy is a scammer by then he would have already taken the money out of the paypal account then the sender is stuck with nothing because paypal will not reimburse you from their own pocket they take the money back from the receivers account but if the receiver has no funds in their paypal account the account just goes negative and the sender is left with nothing ive had this happen to me before in the past i was just stuck with nothing
So.. can steven Bitcoiner222 get a tag? He does have sockpuppets.. Cindi's already been busted in a lie..
FYI I know a plethora of females who trade btc.
Get your sockpuppet master right. FYI I know a plethora of females who trade btc.
i won a instant prize the other day it was a new keyboard i took it to my local shop and said i won a keyboard in this magazine im here to claim my keyboard. The shop keeper said you need to send away for it and give it time to come to your house i said no it says instant win all of a sudden a keyboard fell into my arms.
true story.
true story.
So.. can steven get a tag? He does have sockpuppets.. Cindi's already been busted in a lie..
FYI I know a plethora of females who trade btc.
Another FYI.. Maybe once you sent the Paypal.. he got suspicious.. Why are u still talking about it anyways.. In the end.. both of you guys are suspicious. You charged back fast.. and he may have not been trying to scam him. Next time you deal with paypal.. Do what i do. USE ESCROW AND SEND THE ESCROWER A COPY OF YOUR ID AND SCREENCAP OF PAYPAL ACCT THAT SHOWS YOUR NAME AND MUST MATCH.
FYI I know a plethora of females who trade btc.
Another FYI.. Maybe once you sent the Paypal.. he got suspicious.. Why are u still talking about it anyways.. In the end.. both of you guys are suspicious. You charged back fast.. and he may have not been trying to scam him. Next time you deal with paypal.. Do what i do. USE ESCROW AND SEND THE ESCROWER A COPY OF YOUR ID AND SCREENCAP OF PAYPAL ACCT THAT SHOWS YOUR NAME AND MUST MATCH.
You charged back way too fast... Atleast give the guy an hour or so.
He told me I would have to wait until the next day to receive the 2BTC but told me this AFTER I made payment. Prior to payment he said he would send BTC "Immediately after Payment".
You charged back way too fast... Atleast give the guy a day or two. an hour or so.
FIFYBuying BTC is not the same a buying a lap dance. Things happen and there is no reason to not wait for a couple of days before doing the chargeback. Wouldn't you have been much better of to have waited a few days? He may have gotten you the BTC at that price and you would be sitting on a nice profit now. I understand you got concerned but you were in the drivers seat with nothing to lose so, next time:
Deal with a reputable person
Wait a few days before pulling the chargeback trigger.
You charged back way too fast... Atleast give the guy an hour or so.
i sent him paypal payment and i did get the coins.. my post can be found
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wtb-btc-for-paypal-337740
i also left positive feedback for the user.
my transaction took place about 2 hours before this "scam" took place. it took him around 40 mins to send the coins not sure why you did a chargeback so fast you could have waited a few hours. As you made the chargeback so fast i would have thought you warrant a scammertag. This is based on my experince with the seller. I am happy to post a printscreen on the transaction. I don’t normally post but you seem to have a serious attitude problem.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wtb-btc-for-paypal-337740
i also left positive feedback for the user.
my transaction took place about 2 hours before this "scam" took place. it took him around 40 mins to send the coins not sure why you did a chargeback so fast you could have waited a few hours. As you made the chargeback so fast i would have thought you warrant a scammertag. This is based on my experince with the seller. I am happy to post a printscreen on the transaction. I don’t normally post but you seem to have a serious attitude problem.
If I had filed a chargeback AFTER I received BTC then yes I would warrant a scammertag. This is simply not the case.
your missing my point because you did a chargeback so fast you didnt give him time to send the coins. what it my eyes makes you shady.
If you go to buy a product and the seller tells you, you will receive the product "immediately after making payment" (lets use a lap dance as an example) you pay for a lap dance but the stripper then tells you that you have to now wait until tomorrow to get it. Do you think you would be in the right to then call off the transaction? I believe so
I had prepared to send him the BTC, but my wallet checks every single transaction manually, so it could takes a few hours until he would had received them.
That doesn't make any sense!
Eaxactly!
Or the fact that his English skills were really good all the way up until I paid and he started to ramble (via PM) about why he didnt send the BTC "yet" Its like as soon as his scam started to emerge his English skills went out the window, which is like scammer talk IMO
i sent him paypal payment and i did get the coins.. my post can be found
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wtb-btc-for-paypal-337740
i also left positive feedback for the user.
my transaction took place about 2 hours before this "scam" took place. it took him around 40 mins to send the coins not sure why you did a chargeback so fast you could have waited a few hours. As you made the chargeback so fast i would have thought you warrant a scammertag. This is based on my experince with the seller. I am happy to post a printscreen on the transaction. I don’t normally post but you seem to have a serious attitude problem.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wtb-btc-for-paypal-337740
i also left positive feedback for the user.
my transaction took place about 2 hours before this "scam" took place. it took him around 40 mins to send the coins not sure why you did a chargeback so fast you could have waited a few hours. As you made the chargeback so fast i would have thought you warrant a scammertag. This is based on my experince with the seller. I am happy to post a printscreen on the transaction. I don’t normally post but you seem to have a serious attitude problem.
If I had filed a chargeback AFTER I received BTC then yes I would warrant a scammertag. This is simply not the case.
your missing my point because you did a chargeback so fast you didnt give him time to send the coins. what it my eyes makes you shady.
I had prepared to send him the BTC, but my wallet checks every single transaction manually, so it could takes a few hours until he would had received them.
That doesn't make any sense!
Me calling him a scammer is not bullshit. He still has refused to send my USD back via paypal. I have nothing, which = scammed. Plus, he broke written agreement to "immediately send BTC upon receipt of paypal payment. He broke this agreement by telling me to wait till next day AFTER I PAID. THAT ALONE is enough to call off the deal (again I recevied no BTC).
I gave him an out. I told him to just refund my payment and we each move on. He refused, He is a scammer. Nuff said
I gave him an out. I told him to just refund my payment and we each move on. He refused, He is a scammer. Nuff said
Fine. You will get your money back so as I said if he is a scammer he totally sucks at it. So, what have you learned from all this? That is what is imporant here.
I have learned that I should probably use a better source to obtain BTC
doing a refund on a chargeback is shady:
here: http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=1885101
if the seller wanted to scam why would he use paypal? thats my issue.
Explain what the thread you posted has to do with the case at hand. I don't see any connection. here: http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=1885101
if the seller wanted to scam why would he use paypal? thats my issue.
I had prepared to send him the BTC, but my wallet checks every single transaction manually, so it could takes a few hours until he would had received them.
That doesn't make any sense!
i sent him paypal payment and i did get the coins.. my post can be found
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wtb-btc-for-paypal-337740
i also left positive feedback for the user.
my transaction took place about 2 hours before this "scam" took place. it took him around 40 mins to send the coins not sure why you did a chargeback so fast you could have waited a few hours. As you made the chargeback so fast i would have thought you warrant a scammertag. This is based on my experince with the seller. I am happy to post a printscreen on the transaction. I don’t normally post but you seem to have a serious attitude problem.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wtb-btc-for-paypal-337740
i also left positive feedback for the user.
my transaction took place about 2 hours before this "scam" took place. it took him around 40 mins to send the coins not sure why you did a chargeback so fast you could have waited a few hours. As you made the chargeback so fast i would have thought you warrant a scammertag. This is based on my experince with the seller. I am happy to post a printscreen on the transaction. I don’t normally post but you seem to have a serious attitude problem.
If I had filed a chargeback AFTER I received BTC then yes I would warrant a scammertag. This is simply not the case.
i sent him paypal payment and i did get the coins.. my post can be found
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wtb-btc-for-paypal-337740
i also left positive feedback for the user.
my transaction took place about 2 hours before this "scam" took place. it took him around 40 mins to send the coins not sure why you did a chargeback so fast you could have waited a few hours. As you made the chargeback so fast i would have thought you warrant a scammertag. This is based on my experince with the seller.
OK, fine, maybe he should not have done the chargeback so fast, stated above several times and now assumed a given.https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wtb-btc-for-paypal-337740
i also left positive feedback for the user.
my transaction took place about 2 hours before this "scam" took place. it took him around 40 mins to send the coins not sure why you did a chargeback so fast you could have waited a few hours. As you made the chargeback so fast i would have thought you warrant a scammertag. This is based on my experince with the seller.
At this point that is water under the bridge. Both parties agree that the BTC were never sent. Therefore the seller should immediatly refund the PayPal USD and we can put this all behind us. Why has he not issued a refund? Why all the bluster about lawyers, etc? He has no reason to not issue the refund.
All this calling each other scammer is total bullshit. However:
I would not do business with the buyer since he is so "trigger happy" with the chargeback.
I would not do business with the seller as he has not issued the refund and most likely is using a sockpuppet to try and bolster his "case" whatever that is.
Me calling him a scammer is not bullshit. He still has refused to send my USD back via paypal. I have nothing, which = scammed. Plus, he broke written agreement to "immediately send BTC upon receipt of paypal payment. He broke this agreement by telling me to wait till next day AFTER I PAID. THAT ALONE is enough to call off the deal (again I recevied no BTC).
I gave him an out. I told him to just refund my payment and we each move on. He refused, He is a scammer. Nuff said
doing a refund on a chargeback is shady:
here: http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=1885101
if the seller wanted to scam why would he use paypal? thats my issue.
Me calling him a scammer is not bullshit. He still has refused to send my USD back via paypal. I have nothing, which = scammed. Plus, he broke written agreement to "immediately send BTC upon receipt of paypal payment. He broke this agreement by telling me to wait till next day AFTER I PAID. THAT ALONE is enough to call off the deal (again I recevied no BTC).
I gave him an out. I told him to just refund my payment and we each move on. He refused, He is a scammer. Nuff said
I gave him an out. I told him to just refund my payment and we each move on. He refused, He is a scammer. Nuff said
Fine. You will get your money back so as I said if he is a scammer he totally sucks at it. So, what have you learned from all this? That is what is imporant here.
i sent him paypal payment and i did get the coins.. my post can be found
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wtb-btc-for-paypal-337740
i also left positive feedback for the user.
my transaction took place about 2 hours before this "scam" took place. it took him around 40 mins to send the coins not sure why you did a chargeback so fast you could have waited a few hours. As you made the chargeback so fast i would have thought you warrant a scammertag. This is based on my experince with the seller.
OK, fine, maybe he should not have done the chargeback so fast, stated above several times and now assumed a given.https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wtb-btc-for-paypal-337740
i also left positive feedback for the user.
my transaction took place about 2 hours before this "scam" took place. it took him around 40 mins to send the coins not sure why you did a chargeback so fast you could have waited a few hours. As you made the chargeback so fast i would have thought you warrant a scammertag. This is based on my experince with the seller.
At this point that is water under the bridge. Both parties agree that the BTC were never sent. Therefore the seller should immediatly refund the PayPal USD and we can put this all behind us. Why has he not issued a refund? Why all the bluster about lawyers, etc? He has no reason to not issue the refund.
All this calling each other scammer is total bullshit. However:
I would not do business with the buyer since he is so "trigger happy" with the chargeback.
I would not do business with the seller as he has not issued the refund and most likely is using a sockpuppet to try and bolster his "case" whatever that is.
Me calling him a scammer is not bullshit. He still has refused to send my USD back via paypal. I have nothing, which = scammed. Plus, he broke written agreement to "immediately send BTC upon receipt of paypal payment. He broke this agreement by telling me to wait till next day AFTER I PAID. THAT ALONE is enough to call off the deal (again I recevied no BTC).
I gave him an out. I told him to just refund my payment and we each move on. He refused, He is a scammer. Nuff said
Hi Stevenrm87,
The police could find out your adress: You live in the United States in San Jose, California? That is great because our company is also located in the US (Nevada).
You will receive very funny letters from the police next time for calling us "scammers" and "bastards". Of course you could delete the posts but we personally had showed our police department and our lawyer the posted texts and had saved them in screenshots and other useful things, so you could let them there
Cheers
Bitcoiner222
Bitcoiner222The police could find out your adress: You live in the United States in San Jose, California? That is great because our company is also located in the US (Nevada).
You will receive very funny letters from the police next time for calling us "scammers" and "bastards". Of course you could delete the posts but we personally had showed our police department and our lawyer the posted texts and had saved them in screenshots and other useful things, so you could let them there
Cheers
Bitcoiner222
Why all this bluster? You should be as happy as a pig in shit that he backed out of the deal. BTC are headed toward $1000. You can now sell these BTC for much more than you were going to sell them to Stevenrm87. Police? "funny letters"? Lawyer? Get real. You have lost nothing. Issue the refund. He will remove the negative rating. Let it go. If you are a scammer then you suck at it because no matter what you do you will never get to keep the PayPal USD anyway!
i sent him paypal payment and i did get the coins.. my post can be found
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wtb-btc-for-paypal-337740
i also left positive feedback for the user.
my transaction took place about 2 hours before this "scam" took place. it took him around 40 mins to send the coins not sure why you did a chargeback so fast you could have waited a few hours. As you made the chargeback so fast i would have thought you warrant a scammertag. This is based on my experince with the seller.
OK, fine, maybe he should not have done the chargeback so fast, stated above several times and now assumed a given.https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wtb-btc-for-paypal-337740
i also left positive feedback for the user.
my transaction took place about 2 hours before this "scam" took place. it took him around 40 mins to send the coins not sure why you did a chargeback so fast you could have waited a few hours. As you made the chargeback so fast i would have thought you warrant a scammertag. This is based on my experince with the seller.
At this point that is water under the bridge. Both parties agree that the BTC were never sent. Therefore the seller should immediatly refund the PayPal USD and we can put this all behind us. Why has he not issued a refund? Why all the bluster about lawyers, etc? He has no reason to not issue the refund.
All this calling each other scammer is total bullshit. However:
I would not do business with the buyer since he is so "trigger happy" with the chargeback.
I would not do business with the seller as he has not issued the refund and most likely is using a sockpuppet to try and bolster his "case" whatever that is.
i sent him paypal payment and i did get the coins.. my post can be found
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wtb-btc-for-paypal-337740
i also left positive feedback for the user.
my transaction took place about 2 hours before this "scam" took place. it took him around 40 mins to send the coins not sure why you did a chargeback so fast you could have waited a few hours. As you made the chargeback so fast i would have thought you warrant a scammertag. This is based on my experince with the seller. I am happy to post a printscreen on the transaction. I don’t normally post but you seem to have a serious attitude problem.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wtb-btc-for-paypal-337740
i also left positive feedback for the user.
my transaction took place about 2 hours before this "scam" took place. it took him around 40 mins to send the coins not sure why you did a chargeback so fast you could have waited a few hours. As you made the chargeback so fast i would have thought you warrant a scammertag. This is based on my experince with the seller. I am happy to post a printscreen on the transaction. I don’t normally post but you seem to have a serious attitude problem.
Hi Stevenrm87,
The police could find out your adress: You live in the United States in San Jose, California? That is great because our company is also located in the US (Nevada).
You will receive very funny letters from the police next time for calling us "scammers" and "bastards". Of course you could delete the posts but we personally had showed our police department and our lawyer the posted texts and had saved them in screenshots and other useful things, so you could let them there
Cheers
Bitcoiner222
The police could find out your adress: You live in the United States in San Jose, California? That is great because our company is also located in the US (Nevada).
You will receive very funny letters from the police next time for calling us "scammers" and "bastards". Of course you could delete the posts but we personally had showed our police department and our lawyer the posted texts and had saved them in screenshots and other useful things, so you could let them there
Cheers
Bitcoiner222
English, Must, Learn
I already had ordered from this selller two days ago an amount of 1.5 BTC and everything worked fine.
Also I tried this seller last week when I was ordering just a small amount of 0.2 BTC and it also worked great.
Cindi32
Then you can post here the transactions IDs of these two transactions.Also I tried this seller last week when I was ordering just a small amount of 0.2 BTC and it also worked great.
Cindi32
If not I also call sockpuppet.
Hi,
No, I am not female. Would be strange if a woman is interested in BTC.
My real first name is Cindeo (Autralian name) and to be creative I wrote "Cindi32". I am 32 years old (32)
Cindi32 OR Cindeo
No, I am not female. Would be strange if a woman is interested in BTC.
My real first name is Cindeo (Autralian name) and to be creative I wrote "Cindi32". I am 32 years old (32)
Cindi32 OR Cindeo
still looking? i got .5 btc tryna paypal out.
Well, I can`t, because our wallet is manually and now I have cancelled the transaction.
But I can show everyone here, that he used the chargebackfunction within minutes after ordering the BTC.
But I can show everyone here, that he used the chargebackfunction within minutes after ordering the BTC.
LOL at this
bitcoiner222 - why are you getting the police involved if you haven't lost anything? If you did send BTC, please could you post the transaction ID. Also please let me know which bitcoin client you're using that allows you to cancel transactions after they have been initiated? It sounds like a perfect client to use for paypal transactions because after sending BTC you can just cancel if there is a paypal chargeback...
Hi Cindi - if you're female (as your name suggests), you must be one of the only female users on this forum
On a more serious note: Stevenrm87 - as BurtW said, in future, give it a few hours at least because if you'd bought from a genuine seller and you had initiated chargeback within minutes, the bitcoins would not have reached you yet (because there wouldn't yet be 6 confirmations) but they would have left the seller's wallet on their way to you. Therefore a chargeback at that stage might have led to serious scammer accusations against you. I believe you have 45 days for chargeback under paypal terms as I understand it so there's no rush - please correct me if I'm wrong.
scotjam
Hi Stevenrm87,
The police could find out your adress: You live in the United States in San Jose, California? That is great because our company is also located in the US (Nevada).
You will receive very funny letters from the police next time for calling us "scammers" and "bastards". Of course you could delete the posts but we personally had showed our police department and our lawyer the posted texts and had saved them in screenshots and other useful things, so you could let them there
Cheers
Bitcoiner222
The police could find out your adress: You live in the United States in San Jose, California? That is great because our company is also located in the US (Nevada).
You will receive very funny letters from the police next time for calling us "scammers" and "bastards". Of course you could delete the posts but we personally had showed our police department and our lawyer the posted texts and had saved them in screenshots and other useful things, so you could let them there
Cheers
Bitcoiner222
I need not to justify myself. Ask the other members who bought from him, they were happy.
Cindi32
Cindi32
I already had ordered from this selller two days ago an amount of 1.5 BTC and everything worked fine.
Also I tried this seller last week when I was ordering just a small amount of 0.2 BTC and it also worked great.
Cindi32
How is that possible with 3 posts.. You never posted u needed anything.. LOL.. I smell something fishy!Also I tried this seller last week when I was ordering just a small amount of 0.2 BTC and it also worked great.
Cindi32
Cindi32
I already had ordered from this selller two days ago an amount of 1.5 BTC and everything worked fine.
Also I tried this seller last week when I was ordering just a small amount of 0.2 BTC and it also worked great.
Cindi32
How is that possible with 3 posts.. You never posted u needed anything.. LOL.. I smell something fishy!Also I tried this seller last week when I was ordering just a small amount of 0.2 BTC and it also worked great.
Cindi32
Cindi32
I already had ordered from this selller two days ago an amount of 1.5 BTC and everything worked fine.
Also I tried this seller last week when I was ordering just a small amount of 0.2 BTC and it also worked great.
Cindi32
Also I tried this seller last week when I was ordering just a small amount of 0.2 BTC and it also worked great.
Cindi32
lol sure dude
I already had ordered from this selller two days ago an amount of 1.5 BTC and everything worked fine.
Also I tried this seller last week when I was ordering just a small amount of 0.2 BTC and it also worked great.
Cindi32
How is that possible with 3 posts.. You never posted u needed anything.. LOL.. I smell something fishy! Also I tried this seller last week when I was ordering just a small amount of 0.2 BTC and it also worked great.
Cindi32
I already had ordered from this selller two days ago an amount of 1.5 BTC and everything worked fine.
Also I tried this seller last week when I was ordering just a small amount of 0.2 BTC and it also worked great.
Cindi32
Also I tried this seller last week when I was ordering just a small amount of 0.2 BTC and it also worked great.
Cindi32
And to add he stated he would send the BTC "immediately" after I sent PayPal. Then started to say couple hours,,, then days... If he intended to or not (I believe he did not even have the BTC to sell) he broke the written agreement and in my book was enough to call off the transaction in its entirety (specially since I received nothing anyway)
Then he starts spouting off lawyer this and that... Just delays just excused to have me wait. Im not THAT stupid (although a little for trying to work with him in the first place)
BTC buyer: You were a bit quick to push the chargeback button. You could have waited a few days. No need to be in such a hurry. You have plenty of time to do a chargeback.
BTC seller: WTF? It is totally to your advantage to cancel this transaction and send a full refund. The price of BTC is going up, up, up. You can sell the BTC for a higher price tomorrow. Refund the money now. No need to talk to your lawyer - what the hell does he know anyway? Does your lawyer understand Bitcoins? I doubt it. If you do not refund the money you are a scammer because there is no reason anywhere on Earth that you would even want to try keep the money (unless you are a scammer). Do you see what I am saying here? Think about it: If you do not play nice and refund the money he is going to get it back anyway! And you never sent the BTC so you are not out anything. Refund the money, clear your name and let's all move on.
BTC seller: WTF? It is totally to your advantage to cancel this transaction and send a full refund. The price of BTC is going up, up, up. You can sell the BTC for a higher price tomorrow. Refund the money now. No need to talk to your lawyer - what the hell does he know anyway? Does your lawyer understand Bitcoins? I doubt it. If you do not refund the money you are a scammer because there is no reason anywhere on Earth that you would even want to try keep the money (unless you are a scammer). Do you see what I am saying here? Think about it: If you do not play nice and refund the money he is going to get it back anyway! And you never sent the BTC so you are not out anything. Refund the money, clear your name and let's all move on.
You are right. I was quick, The reason was all communication stopped once I sent the funds AND I got a message from a user stating they dealt with this guy and he scammed them as well. BUT I did give him an out although to prove he was not scamming. The solution was to simply reverse my PayPal payment and call it a day. Once he refused that I went from claiming he was Possibly scammer to IS a scammer.
BTC buyer: You were a bit quick to push the chargeback button. You could have waited a few days. No need to be in such a hurry. You have plenty of time to do a chargeback.
BTC seller: WTF? It is totally to your advantage to cancel this transaction and send a full refund. The price of BTC is going up, up, up. You can sell the BTC for a higher price tomorrow. Refund the money now. No need to talk to your lawyer - what the hell does he know anyway? Does your lawyer understand Bitcoins? I doubt it. If you do not refund the money you are a scammer because there is no reason anywhere on Earth that you would even want to try keep the money (unless you are a scammer). Do you see what I am saying here? Think about it: If you do not play nice and refund the money he is going to get it back anyway! And you never sent the BTC so you are not out anything. Refund the money, clear your name and let's all move on.
BTC seller: WTF? It is totally to your advantage to cancel this transaction and send a full refund. The price of BTC is going up, up, up. You can sell the BTC for a higher price tomorrow. Refund the money now. No need to talk to your lawyer - what the hell does he know anyway? Does your lawyer understand Bitcoins? I doubt it. If you do not refund the money you are a scammer because there is no reason anywhere on Earth that you would even want to try keep the money (unless you are a scammer). Do you see what I am saying here? Think about it: If you do not play nice and refund the money he is going to get it back anyway! And you never sent the BTC so you are not out anything. Refund the money, clear your name and let's all move on.
How about this. Since you have not sent any BTC to me. Its simple Just refund the amount I sent via Paypal and well call it a day. If you do not agree to that. You truly are a scammer and none of this can be blamed on "miscommunication"
What say you
What say you
I just will wait until our laywer answers me. Then I would see, if I will do a transaction with you again. You will receive the answer tomorrow, OK?
Until this time, please do not send the money back to my PP-account and reply again: You are a scammer!
Please write if that would be OK for you.
Cheers
Bitcoiner222
Woops, wrong answer. You just drove the last nail in your own scammer coffin.
Thank You Sir for calling him out. This guy is a joke and a scammer and deserves to be labeled as such.
Steven
How about this. Since you have not sent any BTC to me. Its simple Just refund the amount I sent via Paypal and well call it a day. If you do not agree to that. You truly are a scammer and none of this can be blamed on "miscommunication"
What say you
What say you
I just will wait until our laywer answers me. Then I would see, if I will do a transaction with you again. You will receive the answer tomorrow, OK?
Until this time, please do not send the money back to my PP-account and reply again: You are a scammer!
Please write if that would be OK for you.
Cheers
Bitcoiner222
So you refuse to refund my paypal payment even though you never sent me any BTC and you have the audacity to call me a scammer? Its simple, refund my payment, none of us lose anything except our time and well call it a day. Do you agree?
I already wrote the answer: Tomorrow I will tell you after talking to our lawyer.
And no: That is no thing to post again: He is a scammer, because he did not agree today.
I promise that tomorrow I will reply.
AND: If you would trade with me again, you have to delete every single wrong message about me in this forum. (It would be done by our lawyer/police, but I think that it is better for you, if you do it without another person.)
Cheers
Bitcoiner222
How about this. Since you have not sent any BTC to me. Its simple Just refund the amount I sent via Paypal and well call it a day. If you do not agree to that. You truly are a scammer and none of this can be blamed on "miscommunication"
What say you
What say you
I just will wait until our laywer answers me. Then I would see, if I will do a transaction with you again. You will receive the answer tomorrow, OK?
Until this time, please do not send the money back to my PP-account and reply again: You are a scammer!
Please write if that would be OK for you.
Cheers
Bitcoiner222
Woops, wrong answer. You just drove the last nail in your own scammer coffin.
How about this. Since you have not sent any BTC to me. Its simple Just refund the amount I sent via Paypal and well call it a day. If you do not agree to that. You truly are a scammer and none of this can be blamed on "miscommunication"
What say you
What say you
I just will wait until our laywer answers me. Then I would see, if I will do a transaction with you again. You will receive the answer tomorrow, OK?
Until this time, please do not send the money back to my PP-account and reply again: You are a scammer!
Please write if that would be OK for you.
Cheers
Bitcoiner222
So you refuse to refund my paypal payment even though you never sent me any BTC and you have the audacity to call me a scammer? Its simple, refund my payment, none of us lose anything except our time and well call it a day. Do you agree?
This is why I hate PayPal 
How about this. Since you have not sent any BTC to me. Its simple Just refund the amount I sent via Paypal and well call it a day. If you do not agree to that. You truly are a scammer and none of this can be blamed on "miscommunication"
What say you
What say you
If he sent the coins, surely he could post the TxID, no?
HAHA WOW now Im a scammer? news flash buddie. You have MY funds I have NOTHING from you. YOu have sent nothing. YOu broke deal when you stated you would immediatly transfer BTC onve I paid Paypal. YOu did not, you still have not, YOU are the scammer. Show everyone on here that you sent me 2 BTC. You cant!
But I can show everyone here, that he used the chargebackfunction within minutes after ordering the BTC.
You could post your friends here how much money you have to pay our lawyer and the police of London, where we just have sended an online complaint. Have fun with the invoices and the nice letter from the police department!
Cheers
Bitcoiner222
If he sent the coins, surely he could post the TxID, no?
I already had contacted the lawyer of our company, because HE IS A SCAMMER!
I had prepared to send him the BTC, but my wallet checks every single transaction manually, so it could takes a few hours until he would had received them. But after just a half hour he uses the "Chargeback"-option of PayPal. That is not fair because I already had paid for the transaction.
Other users are posting positive feedback (look at the "BTC-Exchange.info"-thread in "Project Development".
SCAMMER, DO NOT TRADE WITH HIM!!!
Cheers
Bitcoiner222
HAHA WOW now Im a scammer? news flash buddie. You have MY funds I have NOTHING from you. YOu have sent nothing. YOu broke deal when you stated you would immediatly transfer BTC onve I paid Paypal. YOu did not, you still have not, YOU are the scammer. Show everyone on here that you sent me 2 BTC. You cant!
If he sent the coins, surely he could post the TxID, no?
I already had contacted the lawyer of our company, because HE IS A SCAMMER!
I had prepared to send him the BTC, but my wallet checks every single transaction manually, so it could takes a few hours until he would had received them. But after just a half hour he uses the "Chargeback"-option of PayPal. That is not fair because I already had paid for the transaction.
Other users are posting positive feedback (look at the "BTC-Exchange.info"-thread in "Project Development".
SCAMMER, DO NOT TRADE WITH HIM!!!
Cheers
Bitcoiner222
If he sent the coins, surely he could post the TxID, no?
Re: Buy BTC
« Sent to: Stevenrm87 on: Today at 07:24:42 PM »
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Well, of course I cancelled every single transaction, because I already had sended the BTC. One part of the BTC (I splitted them up) could be sended to you already. I will do a complaint at my police station this evening, if you do not send them back when they are in your wallet. Of course I will write in bitcointalk that it is a risk to trade with you, because you request the money back.
If you would send the money back, I could finish the transaction, otherwise I will open a thread in the "Scamforum" in bitcointalk.
I hope to hear from you soon.
Cheers
Bitcoiner222
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He is now stating he sent 2 BTC to me.
« Sent to: Stevenrm87 on: Today at 07:24:42 PM »
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Well, of course I cancelled every single transaction, because I already had sended the BTC. One part of the BTC (I splitted them up) could be sended to you already. I will do a complaint at my police station this evening, if you do not send them back when they are in your wallet. Of course I will write in bitcointalk that it is a risk to trade with you, because you request the money back.
If you would send the money back, I could finish the transaction, otherwise I will open a thread in the "Scamforum" in bitcointalk.
I hope to hear from you soon.
Cheers
Bitcoiner222
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He is now stating he sent 2 BTC to me.
Looks like he may be a scammer. I called PayPal and filed for chargeback since he has not sent and he stated it would be "instant" from the time I sent payment. If he is not a scammer he can send 2 BTC to the address I provided on record and I will gladly cancel dispute.
Who would trust a user with only 28 posts though?
He just PMed me and said he would be sending the BTC shortly. Well see
Who would trust a user with only 28 posts though?
Well he was replying really fast in PM up until I sent the funds.
Nov 18, 2013 Payment To Devin Schlicht Completed ... -€802.00 EUR
Related Transactions
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Nov 18, 2013 Currency Conversion Completed Details -$1,112.16 USD
Nov 18, 2013 Currency Conversion Completed Details €802.00 EUR
Sent to:
Devin Schlicht (The recipient of this payment is Non-U.S. - Verified)
Email:
[email protected]
Payment amount:
(in currency funded)
-€802.00 EUR
Your fees:
€0.00 EUR
Your total charge:
-€802.00 EUR
Payment amount:
-€802.00 EUR
Devin Schlicht's fees:
-€31.63 EUR
Devin Schlicht receives:
€770.37 EUR
Conversion from:
-$1,112.16 USD
Conversion to:
€802.00 EUR
Exchange rate:
1 U.S. Dollar = 0.7211 Euros
Date:
Nov 18, 2013
Time:
10:42:32 PST
Status:
Completed
Money will be available to your recipient on:
Nov 19, 2013
Note: The recipient can send or spend the full amount on this date. If the recipient wishes to withdraw money, limits may apply.
Subject:
Devin Schlicht
Funding Type:
PayPal Balance
Funding Source:
$1,112.16 USD - PayPal Account
Related Transactions
Date Type Status Details Amount
Nov 18, 2013 Currency Conversion Completed Details -$1,112.16 USD
Nov 18, 2013 Currency Conversion Completed Details €802.00 EUR
Sent to:
Devin Schlicht (The recipient of this payment is Non-U.S. - Verified)
Email:
[email protected]
Payment amount:
(in currency funded)
-€802.00 EUR
Your fees:
€0.00 EUR
Your total charge:
-€802.00 EUR
Payment amount:
-€802.00 EUR
Devin Schlicht's fees:
-€31.63 EUR
Devin Schlicht receives:
€770.37 EUR
Conversion from:
-$1,112.16 USD
Conversion to:
€802.00 EUR
Exchange rate:
1 U.S. Dollar = 0.7211 Euros
Date:
Nov 18, 2013
Time:
10:42:32 PST
Status:
Completed
Money will be available to your recipient on:
Nov 19, 2013
Note: The recipient can send or spend the full amount on this date. If the recipient wishes to withdraw money, limits may apply.
Subject:
Devin Schlicht
Funding Type:
PayPal Balance
Funding Source:
$1,112.16 USD - PayPal Account
Let the reccord show that I sent Bitcoiner222 a payment of 802 euro for 2 BTC as we agreed apon. "Your transaction ID for this payment is: 02504678GB3694504."
Bitcoiner222 please send 2 BTC to : 1Lq7mYXxoWVfVa2Dtf4sPmX8TcewcUcLiK
Steven
Bitcoiner222 please send 2 BTC to : 1Lq7mYXxoWVfVa2Dtf4sPmX8TcewcUcLiK
Steven
I bet he isn't going to send them
Let the reccord show that I sent Bitcoiner222 a payment of 802 euro for 2 BTC as we agreed apon. "Your transaction ID for this payment is: 02504678GB3694504."
Bitcoiner222 please send 2 BTC to : 1Lq7mYXxoWVfVa2Dtf4sPmX8TcewcUcLiK
Steven
Bitcoiner222 please send 2 BTC to : 1Lq7mYXxoWVfVa2Dtf4sPmX8TcewcUcLiK
Steven
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Hi, I want to buy 2-3 BTC via my verified Paypal. Ill pay current spot price.
Steven
Generally PayPalsucks is frowned upon around here but there are a few brave souls that will sell to you for PayPalsucks.Steven
Also, there are several over at https://localbitcoins.com that sell for PayPalsucks
Hi, I want to buy 2-3 BTC via my verified Paypal. Ill pay current spot price.
Steven
Steven
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