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Quote from: megaman84 on February 20, 2016, 07:17:53 PM

Quote from: sase007 on February 20, 2016, 06:47:41 PM

Quote from: boomin on February 20, 2016, 06:08:03 PM

I am interested - but it sounds like there are a lot of ways to get screwed over. I have .04 power and would like to look at air freight option because of diff climbing. The problem we all have here is you can now get the s7's for 720$ and they are shipped for almost free with coupon *I have plenty. But I do really love the s4's. I just don't see a way to make it all work. I also have friends in china - but once again, sounds like a situation that could blow up bad...So is it 50 machines?

It is around 5 machines (I realised a mistake in calculations). I would suggest that youg et your friends in China to recieve them.

If you have enough miners where you live, I suggest that you go on a ferry/cruse ship to China and take the miners back in a car/hired van. There is not really a weight limit but may be more expensive and you mount accomodate for what you would need and problems with work.

10000GHs/2000GHs = 5 miners

100TH=100.000GH= 50pcs S4 x 2000GH = 100.000GH

Yes, sorry, I just realised that it was 100THs instead of 10THs!
It is 50pcs then.

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Quote from: sase007 on February 20, 2016, 06:47:41 PM

Quote from: boomin on February 20, 2016, 06:08:03 PM

I am interested - but it sounds like there are a lot of ways to get screwed over. I have .04 power and would like to look at air freight option because of diff climbing. The problem we all have here is you can now get the s7's for 720$ and they are shipped for almost free with coupon *I have plenty. But I do really love the s4's. I just don't see a way to make it all work. I also have friends in china - but once again, sounds like a situation that could blow up bad...So is it 50 machines?

It is around 5 machines (I realised a mistake in calculations). I would suggest that youg et your friends in China to recieve them.

If you have enough miners where you live, I suggest that you go on a ferry/cruse ship to China and take the miners back in a car/hired van. There is not really a weight limit but may be more expensive and you mount accomodate for what you would need and problems with work.

10000GHs/2000GHs = 5 miners

100TH=100.000GH= 50pcs S4 x 2000GH = 100.000GH

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Quote from: boomin on February 20, 2016, 06:08:03 PM

I am interested - but it sounds like there are a lot of ways to get screwed over. I have .04 power and would like to look at air freight option because of diff climbing. The problem we all have here is you can now get the s7's for 720$ and they are shipped for almost free with coupon *I have plenty. But I do really love the s4's. I just don't see a way to make it all work. I also have friends in china - but once again, sounds like a situation that could blow up bad...So is it 50 machines?

It is around 5 machines (I realised a mistake in calculations). I would suggest that youg et your friends in China to recieve them.

If you have enough miners where you live, I suggest that you go on a ferry/cruse ship to China and take the miners back in a car/hired van. There is not really a weight limit but may be more expensive and you mount accomodate for what you would need and problems with work.

10000GHs/2000GHs = 5 miners

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I am interested - but it sounds like there are a lot of ways to get screwed over. I have .04 power and would like to look at air freight option because of diff climbing. The problem we all have here is you can now get the s7's for 720$ and they are shipped for almost free with coupon *I have plenty. But I do really love the s4's. I just don't see a way to make it all work. I also have friends in china - but once again, sounds like a situation that could blow up bad...So is it 50 machines?

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Price is down to 33USD each miner and this is my last price. 5 days left, before I need to donate to bitmain.

Miner price is 123USD each including all costs and shipping to Shenzhen.

(miner price + bitmain charge + shipping to Shenzhen)

Sea freight shipping is around 700USD worldwide and takes around 4 weeks.

Potential Chinese buyers can get them fast and cheap with ultra fast ROI (70days) if you have cheap electricity!

PS: I won't lower the miner price again !

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Quote from: megaman84 on February 20, 2016, 08:28:47 AM

Quote from: adaseb on February 20, 2016, 12:18:20 AM

Probably better just to wait next month until they start the redemption period for the S5, since they are lightner.

Yes, lighter but air freight will be also expensive for them, maybe around 2000-2500USD for 100TH S5.

Well, let's say there are 50 miners.
If someone is in china they can easily host it there.

If someone wnated to return it, I could expect the price would be around $4000 (including pilot) for a daily rental of an aircraft (since second-hand large aircraft are usually sold at $160000).

If there are around 50 miners, each of these could sell on for around $200 heach.
Making a total of over $10000 for the miners (not worth it!).

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Quote from: adaseb on February 20, 2016, 12:18:20 AM

Probably better just to wait next month until they start the redemption period for the S5, since they are lightner.

Yes, lighter but air freight will be also expensive for them, maybe around 2000-2500USD for 100TH S5.

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Air freight will be around 3500USD worldwide, too high...

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Probably better just to wait next month until they start the redemption period for the S5, since they are lightner.

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Quote from: adaseb on February 19, 2016, 08:01:35 PM

So what would be the price SHIPPED to Canada per unit?

I recon "shipping" it would be te best idea. It costs an initial $50 for redemption, then probably at least $100 to ship to Canada per unit. If you sent it by boat that would be slow but the cheapest way, of course you would have to hire a H.G.V. probably and a driver and make a special arrangement with hashnest.

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So what would be the price SHIPPED to Canada per unit?

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I would be interested if you can get these shipped to Canada somehow.

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Quote from: tutorialevideo on February 19, 2016, 12:48:11 PM

Quote from: megaman84 on February 19, 2016, 12:02:32 PM

Quote from: tutorialevideo on February 19, 2016, 04:01:05 AM

Can you garantee that price 42$/ devices?

And whats the delivery time? 2 months?

Hy!

Yes, 42USD for each miner is my charge. 90USD for bitmain + shipping costs is the other charge you need to consider!

I already talked to my supplier in Shenzhen and asked for a shipping quote. Air freight would be also possible and its cheaper than you all thought but I will get the exact

rate tommorow.

Sea freight: 700USD for the full lot (3-4weeks to Europe)

Air freight: "I will state here tommorow" (around 5-7days to Europe)

Feel free to organize shipping by yourself but in case you want me to do, I will organize shipping for free by using my trusted supplier!

Update tomorrow with the air freight to see how much is it, so 42+90+shipment corect?

yes, your math is correct. I will update here and notifiying you via PM.

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Quote from: megaman84 on February 19, 2016, 12:02:32 PM

Quote from: tutorialevideo on February 19, 2016, 04:01:05 AM

Can you garantee that price 42$/ devices?

And whats the delivery time? 2 months?

Hy!

Yes, 42USD for each miner is my charge. 90USD for bitmain + shipping costs is the other charge you need to consider!

I already talked to my supplier in Shenzhen and asked for a shipping quote. Air freight would be also possible and its cheaper than you all thought but I will get the exact

rate tommorow.

Sea freight: 700USD for the full lot (3-4weeks to Europe)

Air freight: "I will state here tommorow" (around 5-7days to Europe)

Feel free to organize shipping by yourself but in case you want me to do, I will organize shipping for free by using my trusted supplier!

Update tomorrow with the air freight to see how much is it, so 42+90+shipment corect?

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Quote from: tutorialevideo on February 19, 2016, 04:01:05 AM

Can you garantee that price 42$/ devices?

And whats the delivery time? 2 months?

Hy!

Yes, 42USD for each miner is my charge. 90USD for bitmain + shipping costs is the other charge you need to consider!

I already talked to my supplier in Shenzhen and asked for a shipping quote. Air freight would be also possible and its cheaper than you all thought but I will get the exact

rate tommorow.

Sea freight: 700USD for the full lot (3-4weeks to Europe)

Air freight: "I will state here tommorow" (around 5-7days to Europe)

Feel free to organize shipping by yourself but in case you want me to do, I will organize shipping for free by using my trusted supplier!

tutorialevideo

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Can you garantee that price 42$/ devices?

And whats the delivery time? 2 months?

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Quote from: hollowtm on February 18, 2016, 05:33:56 PM

Sir, in no way was I talking shit. I'm just giving information that shipping from China to the US is around $3500-$4000 for 39 units.

Sea freight or Air freight?

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Quote from: megaman84 on February 18, 2016, 03:25:11 PM

Quote from: hollowtm on February 17, 2016, 06:20:14 PM

Quote from: megaman84 on February 16, 2016, 04:26:57 AM

Thanks for your interest!

There is only one way, in case the miners needs to be shipped outside from china. (Sea freight)

I will need to check the rates but the sea freight will be around 500USD-1000USD for the full lot and needs around 3 weeks, depending on the location.

Shipping overseas for 39 units is already around 4000USD. I have confirmed that with a representative. So I'm not sure how more it's going to cost for 11 more units.

Why you disturb my thread by talking bullshit?

Sea freight is around 500-1000USD worldwide from Shenzhen. In case bitmain thinks that they can scam for transportation, I will let them deliver to my supplier in SHENZHEN.

He will organize transportation afterwards!

42USD each miner, which brings down the miner price to around 152USD each, shipped worldwide by sea, or brings the cost down to around 135USD if the potential buyer is from China!

Last call for potential buyers, who have free electricity or electricity costs below 6cent/kWh, which still garuantees fast ROI!

ROI is around 70 days only if you pay 3cent/kWh

Miner, includes PSU. No need to buy additional PSU, which would cause additional costs. PLUG in and PLAY!

Sir, in no way was I talking shit. I'm just giving information that shipping from China to the US is around $3500-$4000 for 39 units.

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Quote from: megaman84 on February 18, 2016, 03:25:11 PM

Quote from: hollowtm on February 17, 2016, 06:20:14 PM

Quote from: megaman84 on February 16, 2016, 04:26:57 AM

Thanks for your interest!

There is only one way, in case the miners needs to be shipped outside from china. (Sea freight)

I will need to check the rates but the sea freight will be around 500USD-1000USD for the full lot and needs around 3 weeks, depending on the location.

Shipping overseas for 39 units is already around 4000USD. I have confirmed that with a representative. So I'm not sure how more it's going to cost for 11 more units.

Why you disturb my thread by talking bullshit?

Sea freight is around 500-1000USD worldwide from Shenzhen. In case bitmain thinks that they can scam for transportation, I will let them deliver to my supplier in SHENZHEN.

He will organize transportation afterwards!

42USD each miner, which brings down the miner price to around 152USD each, shipped worldwide by sea, or brings the cost down to around 135USD if the potential buyer is from China!

Last call for potential buyers, who have free electricity or electricity costs below 6cent/kWh, which still garuantees fast ROI!

ROI is around 70 days only if you pay 3cent/kWh

Miner, includes PSU. No need to buy additional PSU, which would cause additional costs. PLUG in and PLAY!

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Quote from: hollowtm on February 17, 2016, 06:20:14 PM

Quote from: megaman84 on February 16, 2016, 04:26:57 AM

Thanks for your interest!

There is only one way, in case the miners needs to be shipped outside from china. (Sea freight)

I will need to check the rates but the sea freight will be around 500USD-1000USD for the full lot and needs around 3 weeks, depending on the location.

Shipping overseas for 39 units is already around 4000USD. I have confirmed that with a representative. So I'm not sure how more it's going to cost for 11 more units.

Why you disturb my thread by talking bullshit?

Sea freight is around 500-1000USD worldwide from Shenzhen. In case bitmain thinks that they can scam for transportation, I will let them deliver to my supplier in SHENZHEN.

He will organize transportation afterwards!

42USD each miner, which brings down the miner price to around 152USD each, shipped worldwide by sea, or brings the cost down to around 135USD if the potential buyer is from China!

Last call for potential buyers, who have free electricity or electricity costs below 6cent/kWh, which still garuantees fast ROI!

ROI is around 70 days only if you pay 3cent/kWh

Miner, includes PSU. No need to buy additional PSU, which would cause additional costs. PLUG in and PLAY!

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Quote from: megaman84 on February 16, 2016, 04:26:57 AM

Thanks for your interest!

There is only one way, in case the miners needs to be shipped outside from china. (Sea freight)

I will need to check the rates but the sea freight will be around 500USD-1000USD for the full lot and needs around 3 weeks, depending on the location.

Shipping overseas for 39 units is already around 4000USD. I have confirmed that with a representative. So I'm not sure how more it's going to cost for 11 more units.

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Yes, its a shame that the charge a high fee of 90USD each miner and they don't care if its only 1pcs or 1000pcs to ship to Shenzhen. Their intention is to make profit on everything, by also scamming their customers by too high handling rates and shipping costs. The shipping costs from Beijing to Shenzhen maybe is 200-300USD for the full lot only.

Their goal is that their customer don't redeem so that they can continue minining profitable with their 0.03cent electricity rate. Sounds like a perfect deal for them....

However, I know about the difficulty increase, and that the S4 is only profitable if the electricity rate is low but in no way I want to donate them to bitmain.

My offer is 75USD each miner, which brings then miner price down to around 180USD shipped. The best and most profitable way is to collect them in Shenzhen or get them delivered within China. In case you are outside, only sea shipping is the way to go and you should have access to cheap electricity in your country. In case you need help with the transportation, I will be here to support or completley organize it.

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Shipment is done by third party, so to the courier it is of course the same whether it is 16.5kg miners or rocks. It is the weight that counts.

But considering profitability. They are charging almost 10 sents/kWh and are themselfs paying most likely something like 5 sents. So the sad truth is, that they can say S4 is not profitable and stop paying about hash but still continue to mine with it themselves.

But it is in TOS, so it should not be a suprise.

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How is Bitmain doing this. That has what a 1200 watt power supply in it? How is that not producing profit with prices around 400 a Btc? Why doesn't the owner or you if you still have it tell them to keep like b5 s4s and ship you the rest that should cover the cost. I don't even get how they charge shipping especially on old equipment like that it paid for itself and they made a killing off it as you paid for it day 1 abd they still charge like 10¢ a kwh and they probably get it free or for less then 5¢ and charge you a pool fee that's crazy.

I have a prisma that push 1.5ths stock and I'm still averaging around 3-4$ a day the halving will hurt but it's already paid it's self off.

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Quote from: Matias on February 15, 2016, 05:15:03 AM

Edit: it cost more than 400 USD to ship ONE S4.

Please check your PM. Offer send and costs are much lower than you think!

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Thanks for your interest!

There is only one way, in case the miners needs to be shipped outside from china. (Sea freight)

I will need to check the rates but the sea freight will be around 500USD-1000USD for the full lot and needs around 3 weeks, depending on the location.

Matias

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Yes, 16.5kg is expensive to transport.

Based on this http://www.travelchinaguide.com/essential/postal-service/rate.htm

postage from China would be approximately 150 euros for air parcel. Surface packet would be approximately 75 euros.

So 90+150 = 240 euros at least for air cargo and 90+75 for surface.

Edit: it cost more than 400 USD to ship ONE S4.

https://enforum.bitmain.com/bbs/topics/2847

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Quote from: Matias on February 15, 2016, 04:13:16 AM

How would redeem work?

https://www.hashnest.com/hash_currencies/23/redeem

If I would redeem your miners, how could I redeem them, because officially they are still yours in hashnest?

Edit: OK, I got it. You sell the whole account.

So price is 90 dollars to get them to china export port. Do you know how much 1 S4 from China port to Finland would be?

Probably more then the miner is worth. The S4 is very heavy.

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How would redeem work?

https://www.hashnest.com/hash_currencies/23/redeem

If I would redeem your miners, how could I redeem them, because officially they are still yours in hashnest?

Edit: OK, I got it. You sell the whole account.

So price is 90 dollars to get them to china export port. Do you know how much 1 S4 from China port to Finland would be?

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he cant the market for s4 is shut down how much are you looking to get for the account??

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Just sell your hashrate on hashnest and buy some S7 hashrate

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Hy guys!

I would like to sell my Hashnest account which includes exactly 100TH Antminer S4 hashing power and which is ready to redeem. I am quite sure that if you are able to get cheap electricity, those miner still will stay profitable for some time. In my country thats not the case, hence the reason why I am selling them.

Offer via PM or thread please. Escrow is welcome!

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