Okay guys , the 5 units that sold recently , 2 have errors and ones always down. Innosilicon is not being very helpful the end point user.
Innosilicon also stated these shipped late july, but on a check up they didnt ship yet. they finally shipped via air this last week and are with customs about a month later then promised on a "In hand" product.
Im going with my gut and canceling this preorder post and all preorders.
A 60% run ratio in a data hall is not satisfactory to my standards at all.
You can message Aleks about these units with no repercussions from us as Im stepping out of this broker arrangement.
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Units are with customs guys. Tomorrow,Monday.? Idk but...Soon.
I would love to be in a place that I could run a mine.
Running a mine is not,that easy.
Running a mine is not,that easy.
I want one in my backyard on this 1.5 acres lot next to my house lol and I would have to agree that it is not easy but I have never done so and yet I still want to
The one in Clifton is too far it is 130 mile round trip.
We have around 70-75 pieces burning about 100kwatts.
We are short 40 kwatts in gear. = a problem but gear is too $$
We could go to 300-400 kwatts this would be really a lot of work. Even with all Inno t2 t30 gear that pulls 2500 watts 100 units would be 250 plus 100 or 350 kwatt so we would need 120 of them.
Plus the 75 pieces we have or 190-200 units.
Ever since we got to the 500th level we have averaged 10% in down gear.
Mostly due to the long ride back and forth. We wait awhile before we get gear back up.
We finally got second internet. So Verizon and optimum.
And Four quality Cisco 48 port switches are in place. Three to Verizon 1 to optimum.
Organize gear is a must. You need static settings once you get to 50 plus it is easier to find down gear.
yes, and that is why I want mine on the lot next door - very little travel time. I am not having much luck getting it going but I dont plan on giving up
I would love to be in a place that I could run a mine.
Running a mine is not,that easy.
Running a mine is not,that easy.
I want one in my backyard on this 1.5 acres lot next to my house lol and I would have to agree that it is not easy but I have never done so and yet I still want to
The one in Clifton is too far it is 130 mile round trip.
We have around 70-75 pieces burning about 100kwatts.
We are short 40 kwatts in gear. = a problem but gear is too $$
We could go to 300-400 kwatts this would be really a lot of work. Even with all Inno t2 t30 gear that pulls 2500 watts 100 units would be 250 plus 100 or 350 kwatt so we would need 120 of them.
Plus the 75 pieces we have or 190-200 units.
Ever since we got to the 500th level we have averaged 10% in down gear.
Mostly due to the long ride back and forth. We wait awhile before we get gear back up.
We finally got second internet. So Verizon and optimum.
And Four quality Cisco 48 port switches are in place. Three to Verizon 1 to optimum.
Organize gear is a must. You need static settings once you get to 50 plus it is easier to find down gear.
I would love to be in a place that I could run a mine.
Running a mine is not,that easy.
Running a mine is not,that easy.
I want one in my backyard on this 1.5 acres lot next to my house lol and I would have to agree that it is not easy but I have never done so and yet I still want to
I wanted two of these.
My partners want s17's, m20, m20s since I have power deals with them I have to respect them as they control the power.
Both the warehouse guy and buysolar have run businesses for years and both have kids to take care of.
I am retired I get a check and have no debt. I also don't have real control of any of my cheap power deals.
Power deal 1 Clifton is 50 50 coin split I could put 10 more s17's in there I have 900th for btc and 11gh for ltc.
50% to warehouse then buysolar and I spilt rest.
Power deal 2 Washington state 3 s9's cost me 145 total a month
Power deal 3 my friends office is 50 50 coin split 1 circuit must be quiet I run 3 pc's there and earn 8 bucks a day to spilt
So the place in washington is maxxed out for me
my friends office is maxxed out.
The place in Clifton has 40kwatts left to fill and they may add 200 more kwatts. this means 110 online + 40 + 150 = 300kwatts maybe
But both guys want deals on gear.
To me I would not mind 2 from here.
Partners can be good. We expanded from 42th to 900th in 1 year in Clifton.
But we are kind of stuck right now as to what to do from now on.
I may end up going off line most everywhere Maybe mine in the washingtion state spot and at my friends office.
My partners want s17's, m20, m20s since I have power deals with them I have to respect them as they control the power.
Both the warehouse guy and buysolar have run businesses for years and both have kids to take care of.
I am retired I get a check and have no debt. I also don't have real control of any of my cheap power deals.
Power deal 1 Clifton is 50 50 coin split I could put 10 more s17's in there I have 900th for btc and 11gh for ltc.
50% to warehouse then buysolar and I spilt rest.
Power deal 2 Washington state 3 s9's cost me 145 total a month
Power deal 3 my friends office is 50 50 coin split 1 circuit must be quiet I run 3 pc's there and earn 8 bucks a day to spilt
So the place in washington is maxxed out for me
my friends office is maxxed out.
The place in Clifton has 40kwatts left to fill and they may add 200 more kwatts. this means 110 online + 40 + 150 = 300kwatts maybe
But both guys want deals on gear.
To me I would not mind 2 from here.
Partners can be good. We expanded from 42th to 900th in 1 year in Clifton.
But we are kind of stuck right now as to what to do from now on.
I may end up going off line most everywhere Maybe mine in the washingtion state spot and at my friends office.
We need someone we can trust in East Asia, that can get equipment without tariffs or too burdensome a VAT. This, assuming the crypto prices
recover some and just to make this a 'true' unicorn/fairy tale/rainbow lovers dream...have something like 6c kWh power.
Wait, better odds with the unicorn hunting I think, re-looking at the above. So simple solution is that someone just move 1/2 way around the world, not speaking
the language or culture. (Everyone likes American's that invade your country/culture and expect you to understand them if they talk louder right?)
And just slap that together post-haste!
Philipma1957 ..just hop on a plane and get right on that! (hey: don't throw stuff at me in Bitcointalk it is rude!) sheesh!
Crypto: Always Drama!
(So addicted to mining, so much, so harsh, ASIC withdrawal symptoms)
Brad
I like my wife , but I would love to be in a place that I could run a mine. That place would be somewhere in asia. I spent time in Asia when in the us navy.
Philippines 🇵🇭 , Hong Kong 🇭🇰 , Mauritius 🇲🇺, Australia 🇦🇺 Diego Garcia were all on the trip. Japan 🇯🇵 Singapore 🇸🇬 . So it is not like I have not been in Asia . But I was much younger and had yet to meet my wife.
Running a mine is not,that easy.
This topic is getting a bit derailed , I'm guilty too let's get it back in track here for a min,
So far no units have arrived not the T2, or T3 models.
T3's are at/near original deadline.
T2's are approx 10 days past due. I think these will be in by Friday at the latest if all goes accordingly. Again no payment due untill they arrive
So far no units have arrived not the T2, or T3 models.
T3's are at/near original deadline.
T2's are approx 10 days past due. I think these will be in by Friday at the latest if all goes accordingly. Again no payment due untill they arrive
It would be cool to go open up shop overseas , somewhere where it's still in infancy in regulation and cheap power light taxes ideal shipping rates/times.
The oilfeild miners have it made from what I can tell.
Recently lightly consulted a guy doing it/planning to and learned a lot of interesting things about how you can mine with excess of 1MW free power. Basically you can afford stuff like portable immersion pods powered by gas generators. Very cool systems with insane ROI times with free power.
Not free after paying for the Gas generator. Very few sites will take the risk. Heat, Electricity and potential sparks are not well tolerated on Production and or Completions sites. I know. I run them. The oilfeild miners have it made from what I can tell.
Recently lightly consulted a guy doing it/planning to and learned a lot of interesting things about how you can mine with excess of 1MW free power. Basically you can afford stuff like portable immersion pods powered by gas generators. Very cool systems with insane ROI times with free power.
what about this guys www.bit49.io - asic hosting in Russia $.055/KWH
It would be cool to go open up shop overseas, somewhere where it's still in infancy in regulation and cheap power light taxes ideal shipping rates/times.
Everyone I've ever known who hosted in Russia got burned when the places went under. Either legitimate demise of business or ran off with the funds.
(4 folk I know of on Bitcointalk and old Litcointalk sites and 3 different hosting places...1 was a legit..just went under...the others? Who knows?)
So just saying from say around 2015-16. The odds are not good IMHO.
Not sure I'd take a chance now.
There was also a huge one besides the above, I forget the name that went under in a big way? Folk lost it all. (Someone here must know which I mean?)
Even if all was good with some Russian hosting sites now in 2019, not exactly sure you'd find out who/how/what for venting such as 'legit'.
Actually, I'd have the same issue with any site in East Asia as well, just the way the world is not I guess.
Brad
what about this guys www.bit49.io - asic hosting in Russia $.055/KWH
It would be cool to go open up shop overseas , somewhere where it's still in infancy in regulation and cheap power light taxes ideal shipping rates/times.
It would be cool to go open up shop overseas , somewhere where it's still in infancy in regulation and cheap power light taxes ideal shipping rates/times.
The oilfeild miners have it made from what I can tell.
Recently lightly consulted a guy doing it/planning to and learned a lot of interesting things about how you can mine with excess of 1MW free power. Basically you can afford stuff like portable immersion pods powered by gas generators. Very cool systems with insane ROI times with free power.
The oilfeild miners have it made from what I can tell.
Recently lightly consulted a guy doing it/planning to and learned a lot of interesting things about how you can mine with excess of 1MW free power. Basically you can afford stuff like portable immersion pods powered by gas generators. Very cool systems with insane ROI times with free power.
I wanted two of these.
My partners want s17's, m20, m20s since I have power deals with them I have to respect them as they control the power.
Both the warehouse guy and buysolar have run businesses for years and both have kids to take care of.
I am retired I get a check and have no debt. I also don't have real control of any of my cheap power deals.
Power deal 1 Clifton is 50 50 coin split I could put 10 more s17's in there I have 900th for btc and 11gh for ltc.
50% to warehouse then buysolar and I spilt rest.
Power deal 2 Washington state 3 s9's cost me 145 total a month
Power deal 3 my friends office is 50 50 coin split 1 circuit must be quiet I run 3 pc's there and earn 8 bucks a day to spilt
So the place in washington is maxxed out for me
my friends office is maxxed out.
The place in Clifton has 40kwatts left to fill and they may add 200 more kwatts. this means 110 online + 40 + 150 = 300kwatts maybe
But both guys want deals on gear.
To me I would not mind 2 from here.
Partners can be good. We expanded from 42th to 900th in 1 year in Clifton.
But we are kind of stuck right now as to what to do from now on.
I may end up going off line most everywhere Maybe mine in the washingtion state spot and at my friends office.
My partners want s17's, m20, m20s since I have power deals with them I have to respect them as they control the power.
Both the warehouse guy and buysolar have run businesses for years and both have kids to take care of.
I am retired I get a check and have no debt. I also don't have real control of any of my cheap power deals.
Power deal 1 Clifton is 50 50 coin split I could put 10 more s17's in there I have 900th for btc and 11gh for ltc.
50% to warehouse then buysolar and I spilt rest.
Power deal 2 Washington state 3 s9's cost me 145 total a month
Power deal 3 my friends office is 50 50 coin split 1 circuit must be quiet I run 3 pc's there and earn 8 bucks a day to spilt
So the place in washington is maxxed out for me
my friends office is maxxed out.
The place in Clifton has 40kwatts left to fill and they may add 200 more kwatts. this means 110 online + 40 + 150 = 300kwatts maybe
But both guys want deals on gear.
To me I would not mind 2 from here.
Partners can be good. We expanded from 42th to 900th in 1 year in Clifton.
But we are kind of stuck right now as to what to do from now on.
I may end up going off line most everywhere Maybe mine in the washingtion state spot and at my friends office.
We need someone we can trust in East Asia, that can get equipment without tariffs or too burdensome a VAT. This, assuming the crypto prices
recover some and just to make this a 'true' unicorn/fairy tale/rainbow lovers dream...have something like 6c kWh power.
Wait, better odds with the unicorn hunting I think, re-looking at the above. So simple solution is that someone just move 1/2 way around the world, not speaking
the language or culture. (Everyone likes American's that invade your country/culture and expect you to understand them if they talk louder right?)
And just slap that together post-haste!
Philipma1957 ..just hop on a plane and get right on that! (hey: don't throw stuff at me in Bitcointalk it is rude!) sheesh!
Crypto: Always Drama!
(So addicted to mining, so much, so harsh, ASIC withdrawal symptoms)
Brad
I wanted two of these.
My partners want s17's, m20, m20s since I have power deals with them I have to respect them as they control the power.
Both the warehouse guy and buysolar have run businesses for years and both have kids to take care of.
I am retired I get a check and have no debt. I also don't have real control of any of my cheap power deals.
Power deal 1 Clifton is 50 50 coin split I could put 10 more s17's in there I have 900th for btc and 11gh for ltc.
50% to warehouse then buysolar and I spilt rest.
Power deal 2 Washington state 3 s9's cost me 145 total a month
Power deal 3 my friends office is 50 50 coin split 1 circuit must be quiet I run 3 pc's there and earn 8 bucks a day to spilt
So the place in washington is maxxed out for me
my friends office is maxxed out.
The place in Clifton has 40kwatts left to fill and they may add 200 more kwatts. this means 110 online + 40 + 150 = 300kwatts maybe
But both guys want deals on gear.
To me I would not mind 2 from here.
Partners can be good. We expanded from 42th to 900th in 1 year in Clifton.
But we are kind of stuck right now as to what to do from now on.
I may end up going off line most everywhere Maybe mine in the washingtion state spot and at my friends office.
My partners want s17's, m20, m20s since I have power deals with them I have to respect them as they control the power.
Both the warehouse guy and buysolar have run businesses for years and both have kids to take care of.
I am retired I get a check and have no debt. I also don't have real control of any of my cheap power deals.
Power deal 1 Clifton is 50 50 coin split I could put 10 more s17's in there I have 900th for btc and 11gh for ltc.
50% to warehouse then buysolar and I spilt rest.
Power deal 2 Washington state 3 s9's cost me 145 total a month
Power deal 3 my friends office is 50 50 coin split 1 circuit must be quiet I run 3 pc's there and earn 8 bucks a day to spilt
So the place in washington is maxxed out for me
my friends office is maxxed out.
The place in Clifton has 40kwatts left to fill and they may add 200 more kwatts. this means 110 online + 40 + 150 = 300kwatts maybe
But both guys want deals on gear.
To me I would not mind 2 from here.
Partners can be good. We expanded from 42th to 900th in 1 year in Clifton.
But we are kind of stuck right now as to what to do from now on.
I may end up going off line most everywhere Maybe mine in the washingtion state spot and at my friends office.
If I can ever get approval (I may need to hire someone who does construction for a living) to build my facility - I will be able to host for people with decently cheap power.
I wanted two of these.
My partners want s17's, m20, m20s since I have power deals with them I have to respect them as they control the power.
Both the warehouse guy and buysolar have run businesses for years and both have kids to take care of.
I am retired I get a check and have no debt. I also don't have real control of any of my cheap power deals.
Power deal 1 Clifton is 50 50 coin split I could put 10 more s17's in there I have 900th for btc and 11gh for ltc.
50% to warehouse then buysolar and I spilt rest.
Power deal 2 Washington state 3 s9's cost me 145 total a month
Power deal 3 my friends office is 50 50 coin split 1 circuit must be quiet I run 3 pc's there and earn 8 bucks a day to spilt
So the place in washington is maxxed out for me
my friends office is maxxed out.
The place in Clifton has 40kwatts left to fill and they may add 200 more kwatts. this means 110 online + 40 + 150 = 300kwatts maybe
But both guys want deals on gear.
To me I would not mind 2 from here.
Partners can be good. We expanded from 42th to 900th in 1 year in Clifton.
But we are kind of stuck right now as to what to do from now on.
I may end up going off line most everywhere Maybe mine in the washingtion state spot and at my friends office.
My partners want s17's, m20, m20s since I have power deals with them I have to respect them as they control the power.
Both the warehouse guy and buysolar have run businesses for years and both have kids to take care of.
I am retired I get a check and have no debt. I also don't have real control of any of my cheap power deals.
Power deal 1 Clifton is 50 50 coin split I could put 10 more s17's in there I have 900th for btc and 11gh for ltc.
50% to warehouse then buysolar and I spilt rest.
Power deal 2 Washington state 3 s9's cost me 145 total a month
Power deal 3 my friends office is 50 50 coin split 1 circuit must be quiet I run 3 pc's there and earn 8 bucks a day to spilt
So the place in washington is maxxed out for me
my friends office is maxxed out.
The place in Clifton has 40kwatts left to fill and they may add 200 more kwatts. this means 110 online + 40 + 150 = 300kwatts maybe
But both guys want deals on gear.
To me I would not mind 2 from here.
Partners can be good. We expanded from 42th to 900th in 1 year in Clifton.
But we are kind of stuck right now as to what to do from now on.
I may end up going off line most everywhere Maybe mine in the washingtion state spot and at my friends office.
Brad it looks grim today wont lie 4 digits. ! its between 9-10 on the hourly.
it not calculated by the hour but by the month so $70KWPM x 1.250watts=$87.50 A s9 *i said 89 off the old rate of 72 sorry about that.
it not calculated by the hour but by the month so $70KWPM x 1.250watts=$87.50 A s9 *i said 89 off the old rate of 72 sorry about that.
Yeah, well my current Data Hall is almost exactly the same 9.5c kWh and again, not looking good.
I guess we need to find someone honest with hosting in East Asia, that can also get around the USA tariffs.
Anything above 8c kWh is not worth the risk, and by the time the BTC price IS worth the risk, the difficulty will likely level it all out again to meh! as
far as price goes.
Remember, the reason, IMHO, that Innsolicon and Bitmain and others have suddenly raised prices on their equipment, both Bitcoin and Altcoins, is that
there is a SURGE of buying such equipment in places other than the USA (tariffs) and the EU (VAT) and other countries of the like. Thus, there is a run,
again, IMHO, in East Asia and the non-tariff/vat countries on equipment for their large data halls/etc. Also, these countries, DO a lot of them have under
5c kWh electric or sweetheart deals of 50/50 split on any flavor of coin POW mining. One side supplies the equip and the other side supplies the electric
(wink/wink) and off you go. Again, IMHO, it is the ONLY thing that makes sense with the price increases and large pre-order times.
Anyway, this is off topic
but why I think I may just have to wait till 2020 if/when this all shakes out, tariff included.
Brad
Brad it looks grim today wont lie 4 digits. ! its between 9-10 on the hourly.
it not calculated by the hour but by the month so $70KWPM x 1.250watts=$87.50 A s9 *i said 89 off the old rate of 72 sorry about that.
it not calculated by the hour but by the month so $70KWPM x 1.250watts=$87.50 A s9 *i said 89 off the old rate of 72 sorry about that.
There is a spot in Atlanta area indeed .06225 all in rate North D@@@ LLC .............................Mic drop thanks
i wont name the 5 places in texas that are very close to this price , there you go you got the info free happy? Now go sit on your pcs all day trying to resell someone else gear .....
i wont name the 5 places in texas that are very close to this price , there you go you got the info free happy? Now go sit on your pcs all day trying to resell someone else gear .....
Again, to my point, always this is their cost, not what they charge in addition to sales tax/local tax/distribution of electric fee/an nauseum.
On the face of it, this does look like what I've seen. Add the above and indeed it always seems to be a bit NORTH of 8c kWh.
Indeed. Voskcoin is out of ASIC mining (see youtube channel) and he had 8c kWh I think he told me, located in Texas, and that does not really fly at these prices for
any flavor of Bitcoin either. So I will likely continue to follow Voskcoin and Philipma1957 and just stay out of mining this year and punt MAYBE till sometime in 2020.
Again, my situation, others may vary.
Brad
I posted it for 30 mins do not want you to make money off my suggestions 
LoL. Good one. Like anyone in the USA at these prices of any electric at even 8c KwH is going to make money, even with the inflated equipment prices and even without the USA Tariff.
Snark.
Had a good laugh. Good one!
Brad
@ Jeremy please stopt posting in my stuff,I think i can speak for the others too, stryfe's stuff, bittawn stuff ect.... Even if you manage to knock a sale or two of mine they wont come to you. (Transparency something you lack)
You made it to investigations. and out of reputation btw (means your demise is coming pretty soon anyways) you should probably prepare for what comes next instead of being petty here.
Your just being salty cause you've lost your reputation.
You're already on a pretty big shit list you will gain nothing here anymore, your basically trolling fer fun right?.
Quote from: bittawm
*removed * please go see it in investigations.
go try your luck on TDW thats where you belong. Brad its flat rate all inclusive with TeslaWatt I you pay what im quoted.
electricity is already taxed and services are not taxed. They simply resell taxed electricity.
the "Otherguys" charge for every little thing as teslawatt does not, even if you call about a downed miner 3 times a day , then they attempt to solve the issue at no additional cost. (usually a hardreset/firmware upgrade does the job)
These guys arnt crooks either.... miner flat out breaks? they rewrite your contract, rates change? they rewrite their contract.
Yeah, from what I can tell Teslawatt comes out to 10c kWh. With all the setup fees etc? Or did I get this incorrect?
What is hosting at Teslawatt in real kWh $$$ to the customer used?
One S9 = $89 a month. Thus an S9 uses 1323 watts.
This according to ASIC Miner Value Site.
here https://www.asicminervalue.com/miners/bitmain/antminer-s9-13-5th
So 1323 x 24 x 30 = 952.56 or 10.7029 USD per kWh?
Anyway, 8c kWh is damn near impossible from my previous post. If the above is correct good for TeslaWatt, but 10c kWh days are gone for good for profit on any
new equipment in the USA, even without the USA tariffs, IMHO. This seems to be getting worse with BTC and Altcoin prices either.
thanks
brad
Brad its flat rate all inclusive with TeslaWatt I you pay what im quoted.
electricity is already taxed and services are not taxed. They simply resell taxed electricity.
the "Otherguys" charge for every little thing as teslawatt does not, even if you call about a downed miner 3 times a day , then they attempt to solve the issue at no additional cost. (usually a hardreset/firmware upgrade does the job)
These guys arnt crooks either.... miner flat out breaks? they rewrite your contract, rates change? they rewrite their contract.
teslawatt is a legitimate company - no question about it. and yes, the easiest way to do it is to quote one flat price per kw/h that also includes all the other things that come along with it. Sure, can put a lower "electric cost" but those that do then also have fees/charges for other thing such as fw updates, reboots, etc etc
There is a spot in Atlanta area indeed .06225 all in rate North D@@@ LLC .............................Mic drop thanks
i wont name the 5 places in texas that are very close to this price , there you go you got the info free happy? Now go sit on your pcs all day trying to resell someone else gear .....
i wont name the 5 places in texas that are very close to this price , there you go you got the info free happy? Now go sit on your pcs all day trying to resell someone else gear .....
Again, to my point, always this is their cost, not what they charge in addition to sales tax/local tax/distribution of electric fee/an nauseum.
On the face of it, this does look like what I've seen. Add the above and indeed it always seems to be a bit NORTH of 8c kWh.
Indeed. Voskcoin is out of ASIC mining (see youtube channel) and he had 8c kWh I think he told me, located in Texas, and that does not really fly at these prices for
any flavor of Bitcoin either. So I will likely continue to follow Voskcoin and Philipma1957 and just stay out of mining this year and punt MAYBE till sometime in 2020.
Again, my situation, others may vary.
Brad
I posted it for 30 mins do not want you to make money off my suggestions
LoL. Good one. Like anyone in the USA at these prices of any electric at even 8c KwH is going to make money, even with the inflated equipment prices and even without the USA Tariff.
Snark.
Had a good laugh. Good one!
Brad
@ Jeremy please stopt posting in my stuff,I think i can speak for the others too, stryfe's stuff, bittawn stuff ect.... Even if you manage to knock a sale or two of mine they wont come to you. (Transparency something you lack)
You made it to investigations. and out of reputation btw (means your demise is coming pretty soon anyways) you should probably prepare for what comes next instead of being petty here.
Your just being salty cause you've lost your reputation.
You're already on a pretty big shit list you will gain nothing here anymore, your basically trolling fer fun right?.
Quote from: bittawm
*removed * please go see it in investigations.
go try your luck on TDW thats where you belong. Brad its flat rate all inclusive with TeslaWatt I you pay what im quoted.
electricity is already taxed and services are not taxed. They simply resell taxed electricity.
the "Otherguys" charge for every little thing as teslawatt does not, even if you call about a downed miner 3 times a day , then they attempt to solve the issue at no additional cost. (usually a hardreset/firmware upgrade does the job)
These guys arnt crooks either.... miner flat out breaks? they rewrite your contract, rates change? they rewrite their contract.
There is a spot in Atlanta area indeed .06225 all in rate North D@@@ LLC .............................Mic drop thanks
i wont name the 5 places in texas that are very close to this price , there you go you got the info free happy? Now go sit on your pcs all day trying to resell someone else gear .....
i wont name the 5 places in texas that are very close to this price , there you go you got the info free happy? Now go sit on your pcs all day trying to resell someone else gear .....
Again, to my point, always this is their cost, not what they charge in addition to sales tax/local tax/distribution of electric fee/an nauseum.
On the face of it, this does look like what I've seen. Add the above and indeed it always seems to be a bit NORTH of 8c kWh.
Indeed. Voskcoin is out of ASIC mining (see youtube channel) and he had 8c kWh I think he told me, located in Texas, and that does not really fly at these prices for
any flavor of Bitcoin either. So I will likely continue to follow Voskcoin and Philipma1957 and just stay out of mining this year and punt MAYBE till sometime in 2020.
Again, my situation, others may vary.
Brad
I posted it for 30 mins do not want you to make money off my suggestions
LoL. Good one. Like anyone in the USA at these prices of any electric at even 8c KwH is going to make money, even with the inflated equipment prices and even without the USA Tariff.
Snark.
Had a good laugh. Good one!
Brad
Fixed an error above, still THINK Voskcoin was paying 8c kWh, but now unsure. I was informed that he is out of N.J. not Texas. I was mixing him up with someone else.
Anyway, sorry about that. I still have the issue with 'even 8c kWh' power is not cutting it, with any crypto of any flavor, in the USA for mining at this point in time.
But anyway, clarification above.
(too many pm's, too many people, mixed somebody's location up with Voskcoin)
I posted it for 30 mins do not want you to make money off my suggestions
There are many facilites that charge .06kwh why do people pay these high rates?
You get what you pay for, TW is all inclusive. No charge for service calls ,ship outs or setups ect. the same with the facilities that charge .06c
Ill wait.
I won't do your research for you or help you make money obviously your a reseller, but if u look in texas or perhaps atlanta area you will find .06225 or less depends on qty, and yes they all have LLC and are official data centers.
Georgia is a good one TW has a new 1MW facility there as a result of this saving on power in GA, TW is lowering prices to $60KW for a company that doesn't touch your coin.
I found this one in Texas for cheap but a $100 deposit???
If you cant prove it your full of shit.
Tisk tisk waited for nothing.
I am a registered LLC in FL and I host at .086 as I pay .056 per kw/h - basically the 3 cents is my profit. Now, I am very small presently, I don't advertise to host and I host for only 2 others currently. Though but my plan has been and still is to build a larger facility and host on a much larger scale.
Right now you have TW beat xD , TW does have over 1MW capacity in Georgia alone though Yep, there is not 'often' REAL numbers to back up the prices that data halls charge. Indeed some have 'variable rates' (at least for Summer rates) depending on how successful
the utility purchasing reps can actually buy electricity for that particular month. (This can vary by 1c to 2c kWh for the month to month). That can skew electric prices big time for big users.
Thus, the only thing I'm interested in. (And never have been able to find, without some kinda catch), is REAL price with sales tax/fees/processing and the rest on a typical bill.
In other words, you take the amount of electricity used for your miner(s) in a month and divide that by the price paid in full and that gives you the REAL price for that month.
Rarely, even if the particular ( I know an exception Maxumark) but again, if you know the particular rate they just flat rate charge you, do these figures compare as favorably
as the advertisements state. IF you also add (sometimes) the $50 per unit setup fee. The $$$ whatever fee for being a new user to the mine, etc, etc. This can add up
easily to 2c kWh more than you were expecting than the data hall published rates, especially on a 6 month or less rate for ASIC's.
Add again, on top of the above you own shipping to get the units to the data hall (assuming
not new equipment and not sent directly from mnfg's country) well...7 out of 8 times this whole menagerie falls apart and the 8th time, with legit numbers, the boat still don't float.
Anyway, would love to be proven wrong, but rarely and never so far on anything that claims under 8c kWh.
Then again, was the first of this year since I looked into this. (shut last of miners off 2/14/19). So perhaps folk are 'hungry' enough this is not the case anymore.
Alas, no miners so kinda a non-issue for me now.
Brad
Brad
There are many facilites that charge .06kwh why do people pay these high rates?
You get what you pay for, TW is all inclusive. No charge for service calls ,ship outs or setups ect. the same with the facilities that charge .06c
Ill wait.
I won't do your research for you or help you make money obviously your a reseller, but if u look in texas or perhaps atlanta area you will find .06225 or less depends on qty, and yes they all have LLC and are official data centers.
Georgia is a good one TW has a new 1MW facility there as a result of this saving on power in GA, TW is lowering prices to $60KW for a company that doesn't touch your coin.
I found this one in Texas for cheap but a $100 deposit???
If you cant prove it your full of shit.
Tisk tisk waited for nothing.
I am a registered LLC in FL and I host at .086 as I pay .056 per kw/h - basically the 3 cents is my profit. Now, I am very small presently, I don't advertise to host and I host for only 2 others currently. Though but my plan has been and still is to build a larger facility and host on a much larger scale.
Right now you have TW beat xD , TW does have over 1MW capacity in Georgia alone though
I am a registered LLC in FL and I host at .086 as I pay .056 per kw/h - basically the 3 cents is my profit. Now, I am very small presently, I don't advertise to host and I host for only 2 others currently. Though but my plan has been and still is to build a larger facility and host on a much larger scale.
There are many facilites that charge .06kwh why do people pay these high rates?
You get what you pay for, TW is all inclusive. No charge for service calls ,ship outs or setups ect. the same with the facilities that charge .06c
Ill wait.
I won't do your research for you or help you make money obviously your a reseller, but if u look in texas or perhaps atlanta area you will find .06225 or less depends on qty, and yes they all have LLC and are official data centers.
Any of these still available?
Yes there's 19 remaining.
Any of these still available?
There are many facilites that charge .06kwh why do people pay these high rates?
You get what you pay for, TW is all inclusive. No charge for service calls ,ship outs or setups ect. the same with the facilities that charge .06c
Ill wait.
There are many facilites that charge .06kwh why do people pay these high rates?
You get what you pay for, TW is all inclusive. No charge for service calls ,ship outs or setups ect. the same with the facilities that charge .06c
There are many facilites that charge .06kwh why do people pay these high rates?
You get what you pay for, TW is all inclusive. No charge for service calls ,ship outs or setups ect.
There are many facilites that charge .06kwh why do people pay these high rates?
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and a question: What is the power consumption on the t2t-30th on the factory setting?
thank you
and a question: What is the power consumption on the t2t-30th on the factory setting?
thank you
I am running few of these at TW. Daily average is about 28-30THs.
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and a question: What is the power consumption on the t2t-30th on the factory setting?
thank you
On factory Its 2100Watts +/- %10 @ 30TH+/-%5 = $147 a month now or $126 a month after September and a question: What is the power consumption on the t2t-30th on the factory setting?
thank you
Balanced is 1900Watts +/- %10 @ 26TH +/-%5 = $133 a month now or $114 a month after September
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and a question: What is the power consumption on the t2t-30th on the factory setting?
thank you
and a question: What is the power consumption on the t2t-30th on the factory setting?
thank you
Update on these, There's been a shipping delay and these are expected in about another week says innosilicon/cargober.
Sorry about the delay on these.
Okay guys , I've updated the list , I have no problems with people changing minds as long as they let me know ahead of this pre order.
A few hit ebay today,
$1987 from china
$2560 from israel
I havnt seen any T3's hit yet.
I have removed shipout as an option TW/Cargober is leveraging these and these prices to attract new customers.
I figured since everyone who wanted a ship-out, dropping out allowed for a window for me to change this option .
October 1st a new rate of $60kWh
$70 x 2.2kW $174 "now" So $60 x 2.2kW = $132 "October" . (@30TH)
Balanced mode would be $133 right now and $114 after the price reduction in October (@26TH)
A few hit ebay today,
$1987 from china
$2560 from israel
I havnt seen any T3's hit yet.
I have removed shipout as an option TW/Cargober is leveraging these and these prices to attract new customers.
I figured since everyone who wanted a ship-out, dropping out allowed for a window for me to change this option .
October 1st a new rate of $60kWh
$70 x 2.2kW $174 "now" So $60 x 2.2kW = $132 "October" . (@30TH)
Balanced mode would be $133 right now and $114 after the price reduction in October (@26TH)
I have talked it over with buysolar he is looking in an other direction. So you can pull me off list.
Also off the list as well. Not getting the T30 either.
I sent you a detailed pm of why that I don't need to get into with you here on this thread
that makes it pretty clear it won't fly under my circumstances. Others maybe, me not so much
So I'm out on the T30 and the T53 as well.
Not a good time to be a USA miner and have tariffs.
Anyway, keep me informed, I will watch from the 'kiddie pool' and maybe wade in again someday.
Maybe by the end of Fall 2019, the USA tariffs will go away and my circumstances/viewpoint will change.
Anyway, thanks for your efforts, at least we made contact and I have a contact from all this.
Keep in touch
Brad
I have talked it over with buysolar he is looking in an other direction. So you can pull me off list.
*Update* 14 remaining!
16 remaining
16 remaining
Ill take one,
Got you buddy Hosting at TW right?*edit 14 Remaining
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/trump-slaps-10-percent-tariff-300b-more-chinese-goods-n1038311
Ill take one,
-snip
Sent you a pm.
Unsure on how I want to proceed. Wish to send them to a buddies data hall.
let me know the particulars, assuming any left
brad
as you can see there plenty of options we can choose what works for you!
15 Remaining*
Innosillicon T2T-30THS
I'm selling Cargobers T2T-30ths units for them and allowing for self escrow if you choose to host with teslawatt.
Teslawatt is straight forward. $70KWh per month (1x s9=$89 a month on LPM 1250w), (1x T2T-30TH will be $138-$155 a month dependent on settings)
No other fee's, not setup fee's no maintenance fee's no handling fee's 7 s9's will be $623 a month in electricity cost.
Hosting at teslawatt requires KYC and Docusign after the contract is signed your machines will be deployed after deployment you pay if no payment within 12 hours of the machines mining,
your machines will no longer be held and the will be unplugged and you will be red-tagged by myself, TeslaWatt.com and Cargober_Nevada for wasting involved parties time and electricity cost.
As well as being on the hook for 30 days of electricity cost you signed up for.
a small non-refundable deposit might be requested at my discretion in leu of self escrow. (If your a newbie or something questionable on feedback or no feedback) .
These are brand new! Warranty! Power supply included! If bitcoin keeps rallying the prices on these will go up.
Please notice these are in the money already in USA ,VAT/Duties/Taxes/International shipping taken care of.*
Expected to arrive in est 10 days from this posting. (8/1/2019)*
These have no lead time other then stated above shipping out as they are not on a current contract and where intended for resale.*
Keep in mind you dont have to pay untill these are hashing if you host with teslawatt!
Cargober does not wish to be bothered by side inquires on these particular units. But inquires to teslawatt in regards to hosting are okay.
If you want outbound shipping that's fine you must arrange freight with central freight, or other means can be discussed/arranged.
(no handling fee's charged by TW,you just pay shipping/materials)
If these are purchased in bitcoin there will be an additional 3% as the seller is asking USD via Wire Transfer.
Its the request of the vendors so a single T2T-30TH will be 1500 + 3% ($1545) if you choose to pay in BTCTC
3rd party escrow is fine on these given you pay the fee please use OgNasty , Phillipma1957 , minerjones or Darkstar_ ,
Escrow please release escrow when marked as shipped/received no longer then 7 days.
Direct payment will be provided via tokentrade.co for each order. or you can pay to BTC 123456mw5NBSWTz7drN5b9br4KuWegbAVK
--
$1500 each via wire-transfer or $1545 in BTC(+3% exchange fee)
Open to suggestions. I will self escrow ship-out orders at my discretion.
x23 Original Quantity
x18 Quantity Remaining
x5 On reserve
User's Reserved
x5 Anonymous
Not Self Moderated with occasional edits. Serious cliff notes will be below this line.
Updated price added a pic of the first batch of 5 at TW.
And full disclosure each of you that sign up to TW through me , gets me a light percentage discount applied to my TW account
I'm selling Cargobers T2T-30ths units for them and allowing for self escrow if you choose to host with teslawatt.
Teslawatt is straight forward. $70KWh per month (1x s9=$89 a month on LPM 1250w), (1x T2T-30TH will be $138-$155 a month dependent on settings)
No other fee's, not setup fee's no maintenance fee's no handling fee's 7 s9's will be $623 a month in electricity cost.
Hosting at teslawatt requires KYC and Docusign after the contract is signed your machines will be deployed after deployment you pay if no payment within 12 hours of the machines mining,
your machines will no longer be held and the will be unplugged and you will be red-tagged by myself, TeslaWatt.com and Cargober_Nevada for wasting involved parties time and electricity cost.
As well as being on the hook for 30 days of electricity cost you signed up for.
a small non-refundable deposit might be requested at my discretion in leu of self escrow. (If your a newbie or something questionable on feedback or no feedback) .
These are brand new! Warranty! Power supply included! If bitcoin keeps rallying the prices on these will go up.
Please notice these are in the money already in USA ,VAT/Duties/Taxes/International shipping taken care of.*
Expected to arrive in est 10 days from this posting. (8/1/2019)*
These have no lead time other then stated above shipping out as they are not on a current contract and where intended for resale.*
Keep in mind you dont have to pay untill these are hashing if you host with teslawatt!
Cargober does not wish to be bothered by side inquires on these particular units. But inquires to teslawatt in regards to hosting are okay.
If you want outbound shipping that's fine you must arrange freight with central freight, or other means can be discussed/arranged.
(no handling fee's charged by TW,you just pay shipping/materials)
If these are purchased in bitcoin there will be an additional 3% as the seller is asking USD via Wire Transfer.
Its the request of the vendors so a single T2T-30TH will be 1500 + 3% ($1545) if you choose to pay in BTCTC
3rd party escrow is fine on these given you pay the fee please use OgNasty , Phillipma1957 , minerjones or Darkstar_ ,
Escrow please release escrow when marked as shipped/received no longer then 7 days.
Direct payment will be provided via tokentrade.co for each order. or you can pay to BTC 123456mw5NBSWTz7drN5b9br4KuWegbAVK
--
$1500 each via wire-transfer or $1545 in BTC(+3% exchange fee)
Open to suggestions. I will self escrow ship-out orders at my discretion.
x23 Original Quantity
x18 Quantity Remaining
x5 On reserve
User's Reserved
x5 Anonymous
Not Self Moderated with occasional edits. Serious cliff notes will be below this line.
Updated price added a pic of the first batch of 5 at TW.
And full disclosure each of you that sign up to TW through me , gets me a light percentage discount applied to my TW account
Sent you a pm.
Unsure on how I want to proceed. Wish to send them to a buddies data hall.
let me know the particulars, assuming any left
brad
Innosillicon T2T-30THS
Please PM Cargober_Nevada In regards to these units.
Locked/Updated topic 8/27/19
I will no longer be brokering anything for others unless it scrap.
I'm selling Cargobers T2T-30ths units for them and allowing for self escrow if you choose to host with teslawatt.
Teslawatt is straight forward. $70KWh per month (1x s9=$89 a month on LPM 1250w), (1x T2T-30TH will be $138-$155 a month dependent on settings)
No other fee's, not setup fee's no maintenance fee's no handling fee's 7 s9's will be $623 a month in electricity cost.
Hosting at teslawatt requires KYC and Docusign after the contract is signed your machines will be deployed after deployment you pay if no payment within 12 hours of the machines mining,
your machines will no longer be held and the will be unplugged and you will be red-tagged by myself, TeslaWatt.com and Cargober_Nevada for wasting involved parties time and electricity cost.
As well as being on the hook for 180 days of electricity cost you signed up for.
a small non-refundable deposit might be requested at my discretion in leu of self escrow. (If your a newbie or something questionable on feedback or no feedback) .
These are brand new! Warranty! Power supply included! If bitcoin keeps rallying the prices on these will go up.
Please notice these are in the money already in USA ,VAT/Duties/Taxes/International shipping taken care of.*
Expected to arrive in est 10 days from this posting. (8/1/2019)*
These have no lead time other then stated above shipping out as they are not on a current contract and where intended for resale.*
Keep in mind you dont have to pay untill these are hashing if you host with teslawatt!
Cargober does not wish to be bothered by side inquires on these particular units. But inquires to teslawatt in regards to hosting are okay.
If you want outbound shipping that's fine you must arrange freight with central freight, or other means can be discussed/arranged.
(no handling fee's charged by TW,you just pay shipping/materials)
If these are purchased in bitcoin there will be an additional 3% as the seller is asking USD via Wire Transfer.
Its the request of the vendors so a single T2T-30TH will be 1500 + 3% ($1545) if you choose to pay in BTCTC
3rd party escrow is fine on these given you pay the fee please use OgNasty , Phillipma1957 , minerjones or Darkstar_ ,
Escrow please release escrow when marked as shipped/received no longer then 48 hours (changed since I took away shipout option)
Direct payment will be provided via tokentrade.co for each order. or you can pay to BTC 123456mw5NBSWTz7drN5b9br4KuWegbAVK
--
$1500 each via wire-transfer or $1545 in BTC(+3% exchange fee)
Open to suggestions. I will self escrow ship-out orders at my discretion.
x23 Original Quantity
x19 Quantity Remaining
x5 On reserve
User's Reserved
x5 Anonymous (Hosted)
Not Self Moderated with occasional edits. Serious cliff notes will be below this line.
Updated price added a pic of the first batch of 5 at TW.
And full disclosure each of you that sign up to TW through me , gets me a light percentage discount applied to my TW account
*updated Hosting only requires 180 days hosting before ship out*
Ship-Out option removed when ship out parties backed out. (8/4/19)*
Please PM Cargober_Nevada In regards to these units.
Locked/Updated topic 8/27/19
I will no longer be brokering anything for others unless it scrap.
Okay guys , the 5 units that sold recently , 2 have errors and ones always down. Innosilicon is not being very helpful the end point user.
Innosilicon also stated these shipped late july, but on a check up they didnt ship yet. they finally shipped via air this last week and are with customs about a month later then promised on a "In hand" product.
Im going with my gut and canceling this preorder post and all preorders.
A 60% run ratio in a data hall is not satisfactory to my standards at all.
You can message Aleks about these units with no repercussions from us as Im stepping out of this broker arrangement.
Innosilicon also stated these shipped late july, but on a check up they didnt ship yet. they finally shipped via air this last week and are with customs about a month later then promised on a "In hand" product.
Im going with my gut and canceling this preorder post and all preorders.
A 60% run ratio in a data hall is not satisfactory to my standards at all.
You can message Aleks about these units with no repercussions from us as Im stepping out of this broker arrangement.
Teslawatt is straight forward. $70KWh per month (1x s9=$89 a month on LPM 1250w), (1x T2T-30TH will be $138-$155 a month dependent on settings)
No other fee's, not setup fee's no maintenance fee's no handling fee's 7 s9's will be $623 a month in electricity cost.
Hosting at teslawatt requires KYC and Docusign after the contract is signed your machines will be deployed after deployment you pay if no payment within 12 hours of the machines mining,
your machines will no longer be held and the will be unplugged and you will be red-tagged by myself, TeslaWatt.com and Cargober_Nevada for wasting involved parties time and electricity cost.
As well as being on the hook for 180 days of electricity cost you signed up for.
a small non-refundable deposit might be requested at my discretion in leu of self escrow. (If your a newbie or something questionable on feedback or no feedback) .
These are brand new! Warranty! Power supply included! If bitcoin keeps rallying the prices on these will go up.
Please notice these are in the money already in USA ,VAT/Duties/Taxes/International shipping taken care of.*
Expected to arrive in est 10 days from this posting. (8/1/2019)*
These have no lead time other then stated above shipping out as they are not on a current contract and where intended for resale.*
Keep in mind you dont have to pay untill these are hashing if you host with teslawatt!
Cargober does not wish to be bothered by side inquires on these particular units. But inquires to teslawatt in regards to hosting are okay.
(no handling fee's charged by TW,you just pay shipping/materials)
If these are purchased in bitcoin there will be an additional 3% as the seller is asking USD via Wire Transfer.
Its the request of the vendors so a single T2T-30TH will be 1500 + 3% ($1545) if you choose to pay in BTCTC
3rd party escrow is fine on these given you pay the fee please use OgNasty , Phillipma1957 , minerjones or Darkstar_ ,
Escrow please release escrow when marked as shipped/received no longer then 48 hours (changed since I took away shipout option)
Direct payment will be provided via tokentrade.co for each order. or you can pay to BTC 123456mw5NBSWTz7drN5b9br4KuWegbAVK
--
$1500 each via wire-transfer or $1545 in BTC(+3% exchange fee)
Open to suggestions.
x23 Original Quantity
x19 Quantity Remaining
x5 On reserve
User's Reserved
x5 Anonymous (Hosted)
Not Self Moderated with occasional edits. Serious cliff notes will be below this line.
Updated price added a pic of the first batch of 5 at TW.
And full disclosure each of you that sign up to TW through me , gets me a light percentage discount applied to my TW account
*updated Hosting only requires 180 days hosting before ship out*
Ship-Out option removed when ship out parties backed out. (8/4/19)*
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