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Topic: WTS Lealana Coins BTC ICG Set Silver (Read 736 times)

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March 01, 2024, 07:18:33 PM
#43
I have a question for you guys. I have a couple Lealanas that got not a great grading by PCGS like 5 or 6 years ago. Like MS68, I was thinking to pop em out of the case and just send them again to get graded, I was thinking to go with ICG because they historically for coins seem to grade higher than PCGS?

what do you guys think? Or is there criteria they follow that almost certainly if it was MS68, then its going to be MS68 again?

What agency did you use originally, ANACS yellow slabs?  

ANACS yellows carry a collector premium.

Regrade to PCGS would be my personal preference for a regrade.

The original grading was done with PCGS, i'm just afraid if I send back to them it they would  regrade it and it would still be MS68, hahhaa. I had just heard in the past tthat ICG was possibly more liberal with their higher grades is why I was asking.


What is your motivation?  Is it just to have a higher grade, do you prefer ICG, or are you trying to ensure higher premium?  If it's to ensure higher premium, you're probably best to leave as in, in its current PCGS holder.  Besides PCGS could probably check the firstbits and tell it was previously graded by them by cross referencing the pedigree.
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March 01, 2024, 07:02:22 PM
#42
I have a question for you guys. I have a couple Lealanas that got not a great grading by PCGS like 5 or 6 years ago. Like MS68, I was thinking to pop em out of the case and just send them again to get graded, I was thinking to go with ICG because they historically for coins seem to grade higher than PCGS?

what do you guys think? Or is there criteria they follow that almost certainly if it was MS68, then its going to be MS68 again?

What agency did you use originally, ANACS yellow slabs? 

ANACS yellows carry a collector premium.

Regrade to PCGS would be my personal preference for a regrade.

The original grading was done with PCGS, i'm just afraid if I send back to them it they would  regrade it and it would still be MS68, hahhaa. I had just heard in the past tthat ICG was possibly more liberal with their higher grades is why I was asking.
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February 29, 2024, 12:04:21 PM
#41
legendary
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February 29, 2024, 06:04:27 AM
#40
Will the ltc set be auctioned?
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Eclipse© Cryptographic equipment
February 29, 2024, 12:48:15 AM
#39
Thread shift:

MJ is auctioning this set off here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/auction-2013-lealana-10-05-025-01-btc-silvers-all-graded-coas-5486790

Serials #166 coins 1 - 4 full phase. COAs.
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Eclipse© Cryptographic equipment
February 29, 2024, 12:46:41 AM
#38
I have a question for you guys. I have a couple Lealanas that got not a great grading by PCGS like 5 or 6 years ago. Like MS68, I was thinking to pop em out of the case and just send them again to get graded, I was thinking to go with ICG because they historically for coins seem to grade higher than PCGS?

what do you guys think? Or is there criteria they follow that almost certainly if it was MS68, then its going to be MS68 again?

What agency did you use originally, ANACS yellow slabs? 

ANACS yellows carry a collector premium.

Regrade to PCGS would be my personal preference for a regrade.
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February 29, 2024, 12:06:52 AM
#37
I have a question for you guys. I have a couple Lealanas that got not a great grading by PCGS like 5 or 6 years ago. Like MS68, I was thinking to pop em out of the case and just send them again to get graded, I was thinking to go with ICG because they historically for coins seem to grade higher than PCGS?

what do you guys think? Or is there criteria they follow that almost certainly if it was MS68, then its going to be MS68 again?
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February 15, 2024, 12:35:48 PM
#36
Ah I see the cert now. Didn't realize some of these sets were buyer funded.

This would be a good item for ICG to note on their slab, esp since these sets are differentiated into seller funded and buyer funded.

Nice looking coins regardless, hard to get better grades than that. I'd still like to see the back  Grin
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February 15, 2024, 08:24:56 AM
#35
These are unfunded? Can we see the back?

Also, I'm surprised there would be no "redeemed" note on ICG's slab...
Just to clarify. Are these swiped and redeemed or buyer funded and hologram intact? I see the BF on the COA but just checking if they were ever loaded and swiped

A quick check of the first bits on all coins indicates they have never been funded... leading me to believe they have the BUYER FUNDED stamp on the hologram
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February 15, 2024, 01:38:10 AM
#34
Just to clarify. Are these swiped and redeemed or buyer funded and hologram intact? I see the BF on the COA but just checking if they were ever loaded and swiped
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February 14, 2024, 11:43:24 PM
#33
These are unfunded? Can we see the back?

Also, I'm surprised there would be no "redeemed" note on ICG's slab...
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February 14, 2024, 10:43:20 AM
#32
Bumpity bump bump
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February 07, 2024, 11:18:31 AM
#31
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, If it was a standard auction format I  most likely wouldn't have given my opinion, because listing a WTS is you looking to start a conversation about your items to sell them. and talking about these coins has created this into a very active post,  actually a very active post for items that are trying to be sold with zero pics and zero proof of ownership for $20k in btc. I actually am interested  in your btc items, so if you would be so kind to post pics of these items it would be appreciated.  thank you

Fair enough lol Forgot to mention the 1btc is lazer rimmed hologram! Just took pics. Now trying to figure out how to upload them...

https://www.talkimg.com/

Wow that is awesome... thank you!
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February 07, 2024, 11:17:21 AM
#30

hero member
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February 07, 2024, 12:45:27 AM
#29
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, If it was a standard auction format I  most likely wouldn't have given my opinion, because listing a WTS is you looking to start a conversation about your items to sell them. and talking about these coins has created this into a very active post,  actually a very active post for items that are trying to be sold with zero pics and zero proof of ownership for $20k in btc. I actually am interested  in your btc items, so if you would be so kind to post pics of these items it would be appreciated.  thank you

Fair enough lol Forgot to mention the 1btc is lazer rimmed hologram! Just took pics. Now trying to figure out how to upload them...

https://www.talkimg.com/
copper member
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February 06, 2024, 10:50:57 PM
#28
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, If it was a standard auction format I  most likely wouldn't have given my opinion, because listing a WTS is you looking to start a conversation about your items to sell them. and talking about these coins has created this into a very active post,  actually a very active post for items that are trying to be sold with zero pics and zero proof of ownership for $20k in btc. I actually am interested  in your btc items, so if you would be so kind to post pics of these items it would be appreciated.  thank you

Fair enough lol Forgot to mention the 1btc is lazer rimmed hologram! Just took pics. Now trying to figure out how to upload them...
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February 06, 2024, 12:23:22 PM
#27
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, If it was a standard auction format I  most likely wouldn't have given my opinion, because listing a WTS is you looking to start a conversation about your items to sell them. and talking about these coins has created this into a very active post,  actually a very active post for items that are trying to be sold with zero pics and zero proof of ownership for $20k in btc. I actually am interested  in your btc items, so if you would be so kind to post pics of these items it would be appreciated.  thank you
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Eclipse© Cryptographic equipment
February 06, 2024, 11:31:13 AM
#26
This is by no means a derailment of your thread.

This is called marketing my friend.

You are now OP of the most active threads on collectables section to hawk your lealana loot.
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February 06, 2024, 10:46:02 AM
#25
the btc collection sounds great but wish it wasnt gaded by ICG, these coins are to high-end and deserved a PCGS grading, but of course this is all personal opinion.  

TO HAVE IT ENCASED IN ICG SLABS IS SACRILEGE.

I vote to free the coins from their ICG prison, and get them into homely PCGS holders Immediately.  



there is absolutely nothing wrong with ICG
 Let me know if you need a quick, little history lesson Eclipse.

I would love a history lesson.

Maybe I am a PCGS shitcoiner, and ICG is based Kek.
   (= ФェФ=)

This is my quick recollection and insight.  Other are free to add and/or keep me honest. 

ICG has been around since the beginning in regards to grading crypto and crypto themed coins and tokens.  ANACS did it for a few years before exiting the space altogether, leaving only ICG to fill the void for couple of years.  Then PCGS saw an opportunity to fill a void and jumped on board, not quite fully aware of or grasping the nuances vs fiat coins and we're still dealing with this until this day.  NGC might be a matter of time, esp since the Otoh auctions, but then again don't hold your breath since it's been a couple/few months.


its just like anything, everyone has their opinion and reasons,  just like. Nike , Reebok, Adidas  or Ford, Chevy, GMC.

Agree, however it's one thing to have a preference and another thing to shit on something undeservedly.

Yeah seriously... totally derailed my sales post to make sure we know what they care about/like with absolutely no interest in purchasing.
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February 06, 2024, 10:16:00 AM
#24
the btc collection sounds great but wish it wasnt gaded by ICG, these coins are to high-end and deserved a PCGS grading, but of course this is all personal opinion.  

TO HAVE IT ENCASED IN ICG SLABS IS SACRILEGE.

I vote to free the coins from their ICG prison, and get them into homely PCGS holders Immediately.  



there is absolutely nothing wrong with ICG
 Let me know if you need a quick, little history lesson Eclipse.

I would love a history lesson.

Maybe I am a PCGS shitcoiner, and ICG is based Kek.
   (= ФェФ=)

This is my quick recollection and insight.  Other are free to add and/or keep me honest. 

ICG has been around since the beginning in regards to grading crypto and crypto themed coins and tokens.  ANACS did it for a few years before exiting the space altogether, leaving only ICG to fill the void for couple of years.  Then PCGS saw an opportunity to fill a void and jumped on board, not quite fully aware of or grasping the nuances vs fiat coins and we're still dealing with this until this day.  NGC might be a matter of time, esp since the Otoh auctions, but then again don't hold your breath since it's been a couple/few months.


its just like anything, everyone has their opinion and reasons,  just like. Nike , Reebok, Adidas  or Ford, Chevy, GMC.

Agree, however it's one thing to have a preference and another thing to shit on something undeservedly.
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February 06, 2024, 09:58:43 AM
#23
the btc collection sounds great but wish it wasnt gaded by ICG, these coins are to high-end and deserved a PCGS grading, but of course this is all personal opinion.  

TO HAVE IT ENCASED IN ICG SLABS IS SACRILEGE.

I vote to free the coins from their ICG prison, and get them into homely PCGS holders Immediately.  



there is absolutely nothing wrong with ICG
 Let me know if you need a quick, little history lesson Eclipse.

I would love a history lesson.

Maybe I am a PCGS shitcoiner, and ICG is based Kek.
   (= ФェФ=)

This is my quick recollection and insight.  Other are free to add and/or keep me honest. 

ICG has been around since the beginning in regards to grading crypto and crypto themed coins and tokens.  ANACS did it for a few years before exiting the space altogether, leaving only ICG to fill the void for couple of years.  Then PCGS saw an opportunity to fill a void and jumped on board, not quite fully aware of or grasping the nuances vs fiat coins and we're still dealing with this until this day.  NGC might be a matter of time, esp since the Otoh auctions, but then again don't hold your breath since it's been a couple/few months.


its just like anything, everyone has their opinion and reasons,  just like. Nike , Reebok, Adidas  or Ford, Chevy, GMC.
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February 06, 2024, 01:15:17 AM
#22
the btc collection sounds great but wish it wasnt gaded by ICG, these coins are to high-end and deserved a PCGS grading, but of course this is all personal opinion.  

TO HAVE IT ENCASED IN ICG SLABS IS SACRILEGE.

I vote to free the coins from their ICG prison, and get them into homely PCGS holders Immediately.  



there is absolutely nothing wrong with ICG
 Let me know if you need a quick, little history lesson Eclipse.

I would love a history lesson.

Maybe I am a PCGS shitcoiner, and ICG is based Kek.
   (= ФェФ=)

This is my quick recollection and insight.  Other are free to add and/or keep me honest. 

ICG has been around since the beginning in regards to grading crypto and crypto themed coins and tokens.  ANACS did it for a few years before exiting the space altogether, leaving only ICG to fill the void for couple of years.  Then PCGS saw an opportunity to fill a void and jumped on board, not quite fully aware of or grasping the nuances vs fiat coins and we're still dealing with this until this day.  NGC might be a matter of time, esp since the Otoh auctions, but then again don't hold your breath since it's been a couple/few months.
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February 06, 2024, 12:33:33 AM
#21
I wouldnt say one is good and the other bad - I dont mind either one. Why does one have to bad and the other good?

where does that leave ANACS?

what matters most is to have it slabbed for protection (if you can afford it) I have close to 300 coins all different and none slabbed - I would have to sell a kidney to do them all lol

the only ones I dont care for as much are the NGC ones - I have a couple and their labels are wrinkled/crooked - just doesn't look as professional as PCGS, ANACS and IGC.

for me the choice is ICG mainly because they are close to me so can easily be dropped off/picked up. However IGC cannot do all size coins which PCGS can do larger ones - but PCGS also limits what they will do. I just had a microsoul bar and a Ballet Litecoin wallet returned without being slabbed (they have done both of these in the past) so I am going to attempt to have them sent back in.

For the Micro-soul and the ballet lite coin make sure to triple check your label description. I have found that they will not grade stuff simply because it is not described properly on the paperwork you send in along with the coin.

PCGS is super duper picky about what they will and will not grade making it extremely important that you get your paperwork correct. 

I can unequivocally tell you this is more due to process gaps in their operation as opposed to improper descriptions and being super duper picky.
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Eclipse© Cryptographic equipment
February 05, 2024, 10:09:15 PM
#20
I wouldnt say one is good and the other bad - I dont mind either one. Why does one have to bad and the other good?

where does that leave ANACS?

what matters most is to have it slabbed for protection (if you can afford it) I have close to 300 coins all different and none slabbed - I would have to sell a kidney to do them all lol

the only ones I dont care for as much are the NGC ones - I have a couple and their labels are wrinkled/crooked - just doesn't look as professional as PCGS, ANACS and IGC.

for me the choice is ICG mainly because they are close to me so can easily be dropped off/picked up. However IGC cannot do all size coins which PCGS can do larger ones - but PCGS also limits what they will do. I just had a microsoul bar and a Ballet Litecoin wallet returned without being slabbed (they have done both of these in the past) so I am going to attempt to have them sent back in.

For the Micro-soul and the ballet lite coin make sure to triple check your label description. I have found that they will not grade stuff simply because it is not described properly on the paperwork you send in along with the coin.

PCGS is super duper picky about what they will and will not grade making it extremely important that you get your paperwork correct. 
legendary
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February 05, 2024, 03:24:05 PM
#19
I wouldnt say one is good and the other bad - I dont mind either one. Why does one have to bad and the other good?

where does that leave ANACS?

what matters most is to have it slabbed for protection (if you can afford it) I have close to 300 coins all different and none slabbed - I would have to sell a kidney to do them all lol

the only ones I dont care for as much are the NGC ones - I have a couple and their labels are wrinkled/crooked - just doesn't look as professional as PCGS, ANACS and IGC.

for me the choice is ICG mainly because they are close to me so can easily be dropped off/picked up. However IGC cannot do all size coins which PCGS can do larger ones - but PCGS also limits what they will do. I just had a microsoul bar and a Ballet Litecoin wallet returned without being slabbed (they have done both of these in the past) so I am going to attempt to have them sent back in.
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February 05, 2024, 02:45:48 PM
#18
the btc collection sounds great but wish it wasnt gaded by ICG, these coins are to high-end and deserved a PCGS grading, but of course this is all personal opinion.  

TO HAVE IT ENCASED IN ICG SLABS IS SACRILEGE.

I vote to free the coins from their ICG prison, and get them into homely PCGS holders Immediately.  



All my BEST coins are in ICG holders. If I bought a great coin in a pcgs holder, I'd crack it in a heartbeat. I'd send it to ICG.

ICG HAS:
-Consistently treated customer right
-Been in the space way longer
-Has better expertise in this field
-Customer service is 100x better
-Transparents and fast

I "vote" with my dollars. Majority of my coins aren't leaving my clutches anyway, so idc about "value" or being "worth more."

I encourage everyone to give ICG their business for crypto coins.

ICG is God-coin then, PCGS is shibainu.
¬‿¬
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Eclipse© Cryptographic equipment
February 05, 2024, 02:43:06 PM
#17
the btc collection sounds great but wish it wasnt gaded by ICG, these coins are to high-end and deserved a PCGS grading, but of course this is all personal opinion.  

TO HAVE IT ENCASED IN ICG SLABS IS SACRILEGE.

I vote to free the coins from their ICG prison, and get them into homely PCGS holders Immediately.  



there is absolutely nothing wrong with ICG
 Let me know if you need a quick, little history lesson Eclipse.

I would love a history lesson.

Maybe I am a PCGS shitcoiner, and ICG is based Kek.
   (= ФェФ=)
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February 05, 2024, 02:24:00 PM
#16
the btc collection sounds great but wish it wasnt gaded by ICG, these coins are to high-end and deserved a PCGS grading, but of course this is all personal opinion. 

TO HAVE IT ENCASED IN ICG SLABS IS SACRILEGE.

I vote to free the coins from their ICG prison, and get them into homely PCGS holders Immediately.   



All my BEST coins are in ICG holders. If I bought a great coin in a pcgs holder, I'd crack it in a heartbeat. I'd send it to ICG.

ICG HAS:
-Consistently treated customer right
-Been in the space way longer
-Has better expertise in this field
-Customer service is 100x better
-Transparents and fast

I "vote" with my dollars. Majority of my coins aren't leaving my clutches anyway, so idc about "value" or being "worth more."

I encourage everyone to give ICG their business for crypto coins.

hero member
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February 05, 2024, 01:38:57 PM
#15
the btc collection sounds great but wish it wasnt gaded by ICG, these coins are to high-end and deserved a PCGS grading, but of course this is all personal opinion.  

TO HAVE IT ENCASED IN ICG SLABS IS SACRILEGE.

I vote to free the coins from their ICG prison, and get them into homely PCGS holders Immediately.  



there is absolutely nothing wrong with ICG

Agree Mopar!  Also, there is no need to shit on ICG  I understand a PCGS slab may result in a higher premium but no need to kiss their ass!  Least we forget that ICG at one time was the only TPG that was grading crypto.  Let me know if you need a quick, little history lesson Eclipse.
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February 05, 2024, 01:31:43 PM
#14
the btc collection sounds great but wish it wasnt gaded by ICG, these coins are to high-end and deserved a PCGS grading, but of course this is all personal opinion. 

TO HAVE IT ENCASED IN ICG SLABS IS SACRILEGE.

I vote to free the coins from their ICG prison, and get them into homely PCGS holders Immediately.   



there is absolutely nothing wrong with ICG
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February 05, 2024, 01:17:14 PM
#13
the btc collection sounds great but wish it wasnt gaded by ICG, these coins are to high-end and deserved a PCGS grading, but of course this is all personal opinion. 

TO HAVE IT ENCASED IN ICG SLABS IS SACRILEGE.

I vote to free the coins from their ICG prison, and get them into homely PCGS holders Immediately.   

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February 05, 2024, 11:46:59 AM
#12
and then take some "new" pictures and list the set for .25 lol

Give a man a blisscoin feed him for a day. 

Teach a man how to capture bliss coin, feed him for a lifetime.

✧♡(◕‿◕✿)

Hahaha! Eclipse you are funny!  Grin
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February 05, 2024, 11:46:18 AM
#11
the btc collection sounds great but wish it wasnt gaded by ICG, these coins are to high-end and deserved a PCGS grading, but of course this is all personal opinion,  good luck with the sale, these coins are starting to be worth more and more on the 2nd market. =)
legendary
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February 05, 2024, 08:13:52 AM
#10
An unfunded Lealana Silver set, including:
1 BTC Silver Gilt, Gold B ICG MS69
.5 BTC Silver ICG MS68
.25 BTC Silver ICG MS69
.1 BTC Silver ICG MS69
All with sign COA's from Smoothie. Matched serial number set.

Asking .24btc

A Litecoin Lealana Silver Set, including:
25 Litecoin Silver ANACS MS67 (Rare, no serial #)
10 Litecoin Silver ANACS MS67
5 Litecoin Silver ANACS MS67
Tough to find in the yellow anacs holders nowadays. 10ltc and 5 ltc matched serial numbers.

Asking .2btc

Would love to package deal these all to one buyer. Want to be in the ~.35 realm for the package deal. Escrow through MJ if he so kindly accepts. Would also entertain trade for a .1 silver Cas.

Happy to assist with any logistics/escrow needs Cheesy
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February 05, 2024, 12:41:53 AM
#9
and then take some "new" pictures and list the set for .25 lol

Give a man a blisscoin feed him for a day. 

Teach a man how to capture bliss coin, feed him for a lifetime.

✧♡(◕‿◕✿)
legendary
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February 05, 2024, 12:31:24 AM
#8

Some degenerate other than myself should purchase this triple headshot. I have too much LLeana in my smoke stacks already.

LTC set at 0.085BTC I would pawn my car.

Is this an offer? If not, I’ll come in at 0.085 for the LTC set.
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February 05, 2024, 12:14:33 AM
#7
and then take some "new" pictures and list the set for .25 lol
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February 04, 2024, 11:53:49 PM
#6
Pictures?

I am not a buyer of silver set at .24BTC personally but I know others most likey are.

The LTC on the other hand in yellow ANACs is solid. I like that but not at .2BTC

That is 35 LTC load or 0.0563BTC in value.

$2,346 federal reserve notes.


Make a public offer on the ltc set please.

Some degenerate other than myself should purchase this triple headshot. I have too much LLeana in my smoke stacks already.

LTC set at 0.085BTC I would pawn my car.
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February 04, 2024, 10:33:24 PM
#5
Pictures?

I am not a buyer of silver set at .24BTC personally but I know others most likey are.

The LTC on the other hand in yellow ANACs is solid. I like that but not at .2BTC

That is 35 LTC load or 0.0563BTC in value.

$2,346 federal reserve notes.


Make a public offer on the ltc set please.
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February 04, 2024, 09:48:10 PM
#4
Pictures?

I am not a buyer of silver set at .24BTC personally but I know others most likey are.

The LTC on the other hand in yellow ANACs is solid. I like that but not at .2BTC

That is 35 LTC load or 0.0563BTC in value.

$2,346 federal reserve notes.

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February 04, 2024, 04:20:44 PM
#3
Because they're matched serial numbers, only for sale as a set.
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February 04, 2024, 04:12:31 PM
#2

only for sale as a set or also separately ?
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February 04, 2024, 04:00:24 PM
#1
An unfunded Lealana Silver set, including:
1 BTC Silver Gilt, Gold B ICG MS69
.5 BTC Silver ICG MS68
.25 BTC Silver ICG MS69
.1 BTC Silver ICG MS69
All with sign COA's from Smoothie. Matched serial number set.

Escrow through MJ if he so kindly accepts.

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