Topic: [WTS] The Times 2009.01.03 newspaper - very rare - authentic - certified (Read 1159 times)
December 19, 2024, 06:17:39 AM
The ultimate Bitcoin artifact has never been cheaper in BTC terms....just saying.
December 02, 2024, 02:00:12 PM
The bullmarket discount has officially ended.
The current price of the newspaper in excellent condition is 600K USD. (5% commission is still in play if someone finds a serious buyer).
I'm taking the UV damaged example off market for a while at least until a document restoration expert inspected it.
The current price of the newspaper in excellent condition is 600K USD. (5% commission is still in play if someone finds a serious buyer).
I'm taking the UV damaged example off market for a while at least until a document restoration expert inspected it.
November 13, 2024, 06:56:26 AM
Limited time bull market discount: 500K USD 
June 30, 2024, 11:02:56 PM
am I reading your post correctly?
$650,000 ~BTC10 ?
$650,000 ~BTC10 ?
Yes, and it is considered cheap, considering the 1M+ USD the last good example was sold for. This item is exceptionally rare.
Not sure, the issue is that whilst it is rare, there is not a huge cult of newspaper and magazine collectors.
Out of the small pool of collectors which there are most don't a) have the money for this pricetag b)if they did have the money, probably not invest so heavily.
There is no doubt the paper is rare and everything but its a tough sale.
Good luck to you, it is an amazingly rare piece.
All exceptionally rare items have small markets as the wealth distribution of the world is pretty much disastrous. But think about it this way: if you have 50M+ USD liquid wealth you're already in the territory of diversification into fine art/historical items.
For someone with that money and appreciation of cryptocurrency, this item is basically a no brainer. You can be 100% sure that in 5-10-15-20-30-50... years, no matter what happens to Bitcoin/crypto, this item will keep appreciating and its rarity and value will only increase.
In comparison, other historically important newpapers (for example the newspapers which had assassinations of presidents on their front pages are at 20M+ USD currently for even the damaged examples).
Yeah, i mean, if you had 50 million liquid, there are also a ton of other investments to go into.
If your so confident about the value of the newspaper, why not let it run in an auction?
There is no proper platform to do an auction unfortunately, Also starting price wouldn't be lower than my current prices, considering the 2 examples that were sold for 1M already.
You have to understand, that you will never obtain such item for the original or low price anymore. Maybe if you find a pensioner in the UK who keeps newspapers and does not know about it, but then again, if you don't keep it properly it can degrade rapidly (eg: no more than 60% humidity, no high temps).
My display piece was in a dark room with no direct sunlight or extreme temp changes, and was sealed, but still it got discolouration.
June 30, 2024, 04:12:19 PM
am I reading your post correctly?
$650,000 ~BTC10 ?
$650,000 ~BTC10 ?
Yes, and it is considered cheap, considering the 1M+ USD the last good example was sold for. This item is exceptionally rare.
Not sure, the issue is that whilst it is rare, there is not a huge cult of newspaper and magazine collectors.
Out of the small pool of collectors which there are most don't a) have the money for this pricetag b)if they did have the money, probably not invest so heavily.
There is no doubt the paper is rare and everything but its a tough sale.
Good luck to you, it is an amazingly rare piece.
All exceptionally rare items have small markets as the wealth distribution of the world is pretty much disastrous. But think about it this way: if you have 50M+ USD liquid wealth you're already in the territory of diversification into fine art/historical items.
For someone with that money and appreciation of cryptocurrency, this item is basically a no brainer. You can be 100% sure that in 5-10-15-20-30-50... years, no matter what happens to Bitcoin/crypto, this item will keep appreciating and its rarity and value will only increase.
In comparison, other historically important newpapers (for example the newspapers which had assassinations of presidents on their front pages are at 20M+ USD currently for even the damaged examples).
Yeah, i mean, if you had 50 million liquid, there are also a ton of other investments to go into.
If your so confident about the value of the newspaper, why not let it run in an auction?
June 30, 2024, 06:49:28 AM
am I reading your post correctly?
$650,000 ~BTC10 ?
$650,000 ~BTC10 ?
Yes, and it is considered cheap, considering the 1M+ USD the last good example was sold for. This item is exceptionally rare.
Not sure, the issue is that whilst it is rare, there is not a huge cult of newspaper and magazine collectors.
Out of the small pool of collectors which there are most don't a) have the money for this pricetag b)if they did have the money, probably not invest so heavily.
There is no doubt the paper is rare and everything but its a tough sale.
Good luck to you, it is an amazingly rare piece.
All exceptionally rare items have small markets as the wealth distribution of the world is pretty much disastrous. But think about it this way: if you have 50M+ USD liquid wealth you're already in the territory of diversification into fine art/historical items.
For someone with that money and appreciation of cryptocurrency, this item is basically a no brainer. You can be 100% sure that in 5-10-15-20-30-50... years, no matter what happens to Bitcoin/crypto, this item will keep appreciating and its rarity and value will only increase.
In comparison, other historically important newpapers (for example the newspapers which had assassinations of presidents on their front pages are at 20M+ USD currently for even the damaged examples).
June 30, 2024, 06:43:29 AM
am I reading your post correctly?
$650,000 ~BTC10 ?
$650,000 ~BTC10 ?
Yes, and it is considered cheap, considering the 1M+ USD the last good example was sold for. This item is exceptionally rare.
Not sure, the issue is that whilst it is rare, there is not a huge cult of newspaper and magazine collectors.
Out of the small pool of collectors which there are most don't a) have the money for this pricetag b)if they did have the money, probably not invest so heavily.
There is no doubt the paper is rare and everything but its a tough sale.
Good luck to you, it is an amazingly rare piece.
Yes good luck, more power to you if you can secure that price for it.
past sales of this have indeed commanded such high value but yea the market
is very small.
I'm not sure how up to date this site is > https://www.thetimes03jan2009.com
That site has been defunct/abandoned for a while.
June 30, 2024, 06:42:37 AM
am I reading your post correctly?
$650,000 ~BTC10 ?
$650,000 ~BTC10 ?
Yes, and it is considered cheap, considering the 1M+ USD the last good example was sold for. This item is exceptionally rare.
Not sure, the issue is that whilst it is rare, there is not a huge cult of newspaper and magazine collectors.
Out of the small pool of collectors which there are most don't a) have the money for this pricetag b)if they did have the money, probably not invest so heavily.
There is no doubt the paper is rare and everything but its a tough sale.
Good luck to you, it is an amazingly rare piece.
Certainly, this historical item is not for mere peasants.
June 30, 2024, 04:34:49 AM
am I reading your post correctly?
$650,000 ~BTC10 ?
$650,000 ~BTC10 ?
Yes, and it is considered cheap, considering the 1M+ USD the last good example was sold for. This item is exceptionally rare.
Not sure, the issue is that whilst it is rare, there is not a huge cult of newspaper and magazine collectors.
Out of the small pool of collectors which there are most don't a) have the money for this pricetag b)if they did have the money, probably not invest so heavily.
There is no doubt the paper is rare and everything but its a tough sale.
Good luck to you, it is an amazingly rare piece.
Yes good luck, more power to you if you can secure that price for it.
past sales of this have indeed commanded such high value but yea the market
is very small.
I'm not sure how up to date this site is > https://www.thetimes03jan2009.com
June 30, 2024, 04:01:39 AM
am I reading your post correctly?
$650,000 ~BTC10 ?
$650,000 ~BTC10 ?
Yes, and it is considered cheap, considering the 1M+ USD the last good example was sold for. This item is exceptionally rare.
Not sure, the issue is that whilst it is rare, there is not a huge cult of newspaper and magazine collectors.
Out of the small pool of collectors which there are most don't a) have the money for this pricetag b)if they did have the money, probably not invest so heavily.
There is no doubt the paper is rare and everything but its a tough sale.
Good luck to you, it is an amazingly rare piece.
June 29, 2024, 04:49:27 PM
am I reading your post correctly?
$650,000 ~BTC10 ?
$650,000 ~BTC10 ?
Yes, and it is considered cheap, considering the 1M+ USD the last good example was sold for. This item is exceptionally rare.
June 29, 2024, 08:52:11 AM
am I reading your post correctly?
$650,000 ~BTC10 ?
$650,000 ~BTC10 ?
June 29, 2024, 07:30:16 AM
From now on, I offer 5% of the sale price to anyone who connects me with a buyer.
June 27, 2024, 01:23:05 PM
UPDATE
Currently I'm still selling my first newspaper (that was used as a display piece) for a lower price of 350K USD (first post includes pictures).
Also, I have a pristine, non-display, certified example available for 650K USD (also open to sensible offers).
Picture of the pristine example:
Please send a pm if you are interested. The newspapers can be examined before purchase on the expense of the buyer. In person collection possible in Wien, Austria.
Insured shipping can be organized worldwide.
Currently I'm still selling my first newspaper (that was used as a display piece) for a lower price of 350K USD (first post includes pictures).
Also, I have a pristine, non-display, certified example available for 650K USD (also open to sensible offers).
Picture of the pristine example:
Please send a pm if you are interested. The newspapers can be examined before purchase on the expense of the buyer. In person collection possible in Wien, Austria.
Insured shipping can be organized worldwide.
March 31, 2024, 06:41:15 PM
What 3rd party agency would you use to get this "graded" for lack of a better term.
I know that CGC does comic books, PCGS does coins, who would do newspapers?
Would you consider getting this paper slabbed up, it may increase the appeal.
I know that CGC does comic books, PCGS does coins, who would do newspapers?
Would you consider getting this paper slabbed up, it may increase the appeal.
I already have a certificate of authenticity from the collector firm I got it from, but serious buyers can get it checked at any reputable venue of their choice. (preferably in europe).
March 30, 2024, 11:46:04 PM
What 3rd party agency would you use to get this "graded" for lack of a better term.
I know that CGC does comic books, PCGS does coins, who would do newspapers?
Would you consider getting this paper slabbed up, it may increase the appeal.
I know that CGC does comic books, PCGS does coins, who would do newspapers?
Would you consider getting this paper slabbed up, it may increase the appeal.
March 29, 2024, 01:53:24 PM
holy shite. you don't come across this often, if ever at all.
the grail
the grail
The rarest artifact of Bitcoin history imo.
March 29, 2024, 01:52:44 PM
what is the difference between the standard edition and the 'Scotland edition' (top right corner)?
does this difference affect the value?
does this difference affect the value?
Nothing in terms of content only that mark. (mind we don't know which version satoshi had, but doesn't really make a difference imo).
Most likely it's even more rare.
March 20, 2024, 11:23:15 PM
holy shite. you don't come across this often, if ever at all.
the grail
the grail
February 29, 2024, 02:59:16 AM
"Israel prepares to launch ground offensive on Gaza"
plus ça change
plus ça change
February 25, 2024, 10:19:37 AM
There's only 1 other listing of this newspaper on this forum for 22BTC without pics.
January 31, 2024, 02:28:50 PM
Bumpety bump.
Where are all the early adopters?
Where are all the early adopters?
On an island with little to no internet service I would be
nice piece good luck with your sale January 30, 2024, 03:48:21 PM
Bumpety bump.
Where are all the early adopters?
Where are all the early adopters?
January 21, 2024, 02:27:22 AM
Makes you wonder how many people were packing their house up on that date to move or packing any items to move and that paper ended up getting wrapped up with some fine China or something like that to protect it from breaking. Lol there must be hoarders who have copies sitting around their house and they never even know it’s true value..
Absolutely, there will be more than a couple these sitting in peoples attics used as wrapping paper, propping up tables and lining out boxes, that’s just a safe assumption to make. Will they be in a bad shape? Of course, but is there more existing than the couple we know of? Guaranteed
I wouldnt say there are many left in perfect condition or other than wrapping paper,
thats the nature of newsprint, they are really designed for a day or couple of days and
a newer one is out then.
Regarding the OP's copy, its kind of a pity that it was on display and that the front page
got discoloured, UV light is the no.1 enemy of newsprint.
GLWS though for the OP, these are true gems
I have the one in display framed, but I want to sell another which has not been exposed to any light. This is why I've written in the original post that if someone interested ask for high res pictures, as I don't want to remove the other one from its protective case without good reason.
Also, even the one which is framed is not discoloured significantly in person. (mind that these newspapers aren't pure white when new)
January 20, 2024, 12:32:58 PM
Makes you wonder how many people were packing their house up on that date to move or packing any items to move and that paper ended up getting wrapped up with some fine China or something like that to protect it from breaking. Lol there must be hoarders who have copies sitting around their house and they never even know it’s true value..
Absolutely, there will be more than a couple these sitting in peoples attics used as wrapping paper, propping up tables and lining out boxes, that’s just a safe assumption to make. Will they be in a bad shape? Of course, but is there more existing than the couple we know of? Guaranteed
I wouldnt say there are many left in perfect condition or other than wrapping paper,
thats the nature of newsprint, they are really designed for a day or couple of days and
a newer one is out then.
Regarding the OP's copy, its kind of a pity that it was on display and that the front page
got discoloured, UV light is the no.1 enemy of newsprint.
GLWS though for the OP, these are true gems
January 19, 2024, 08:12:40 AM
Makes you wonder how many people were packing their house up on that date to move or packing any items to move and that paper ended up getting wrapped up with some fine China or something like that to protect it from breaking. Lol there must be hoarders who have copies sitting around their house and they never even know it’s true value..
Absolutely, there will be more than a couple these sitting in peoples attics used as wrapping paper, propping up tables and lining out boxes, that’s just a safe assumption to make. Will they be in a bad shape? Of course, but is there more existing than the couple we know of? Guaranteed
January 18, 2024, 02:30:18 PM
Image added to main post.
January 18, 2024, 08:15:33 AM
That's actually a reasonable price. Best of luck, would also love to see photos.
Thanks. I'll upload pics this afternoon.
January 18, 2024, 08:14:42 AM
Makes you wonder how many people were packing their house up on that date to move or packing any items to move and that paper ended up getting wrapped up with some fine China or something like that to protect it from breaking. Lol there must be hoarders who have copies sitting around their house and they never even know it’s true value..
Most people trashed them within a few days of getting it. Based on my estimations, less than 50 of this issue exists by now in acceptable condition globally.
I even contacted the times and they only have one copy which they can't sell.
January 18, 2024, 08:05:55 AM
Did you get during original emission or you find later?
I obtained it about 4 years after.
Most people cannot comprehend how rare these papers are. I've been relentlessly hunting them for 10+ years, with no stones unturned including contact with newspaper collectors all over the planet.
Pretty sure good condition examples of these will worth millions of USD within 20 years. Normally I wouldn't even sell it, but I need funding for one of my projects.
January 17, 2024, 07:18:26 PM
Makes you wonder how many people were packing their house up on that date to move or packing any items to move and that paper ended up getting wrapped up with some fine China or something like that to protect it from breaking. Lol there must be hoarders who have copies sitting around their house and they never even know it’s true value..
January 17, 2024, 06:41:47 PM
Did you get during original emission or you find later?
January 17, 2024, 06:06:35 PM
That's actually a reasonable price. Best of luck, would also love to see photos.
January 17, 2024, 05:35:05 PM
Potential buyer in a recent post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wtb-the-times-uk-january-3-2009-5481250
Best of luck, we'd love to see some pictures!
Best of luck, we'd love to see some pictures!
January 17, 2024, 04:18:12 AM
Item1:
High resolution pictures available on request.
Authentic, certified, full newspaper in excellent condition (used as display piece so it has slight UV discolouring hence lower price.
Offers from 250K USD will be considered. Taken off market, due to restoration.
Item2:
Authentic, certified, full newspaper in immaculate condition.
Price: 600K USD
In person pickup preferred (Europe) considering the value of the item, otherwise insured shipping is the responsibility of the buyer.
High resolution pictures available on request.
Authentic, certified, full newspaper in excellent condition (used as display piece so it has slight UV discolouring hence lower price.
Item2:
Authentic, certified, full newspaper in immaculate condition.
Price: 600K USD
In person pickup preferred (Europe) considering the value of the item, otherwise insured shipping is the responsibility of the buyer.
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