Topic: WW3 About to start HK/China/U.N (Read 328 times)

Numbers. Even if you think China's military weapons are a couple of decades behind, they have lots, LOTS more. If it is a conventional non nuke war, US toughest opponent is China. Of course nukes renders anything null, the planet dies.

In reality China isn't that far behind, precisely because of their excellent espionage skills (which Trump can't stop anyway, so don't bother blaming the former presidents). America surrendered their secrets when they decided to move manufacturing to China. While Trump isn't incorrect in that, its simply not possible to revert it anymore. Americans can't make their things as cheaply and massively as China can, even weapons. Take a very close look at the cost of the average weapons platform in America vs China. So what if 1 American can beat 3 Chinese, when the Chinese can field 10 for each American?

I have watched the videos from your post, and here's my comment. Those Russian and Chinese propaganda ones are only showing their weakness because if you are really strong you don't have to show off your strength all the time. While the USA, having the strongest army in the world, can afford laughing at themselves.


Do you really think that we are still living in times of one-on-one combat?

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But I don't think that a new World War can unfold these days. The truth is that children and other members of the families of top Russian politicians are living in the West, and I suspect the same about China. Those evil governments do not want any war with the Western countries. What they want is to continue to fool and exploit the poor people of their own countries, but hopefully this situation will come to an end soon.

Officially Hong Kong is a province of China and thus they have the right to do anything in that region. And the supposed bill has even been scrapped by the government so I think it's time that the protesters cool down and stop all the protests which has been very destructive.

This is in my opinion an idiotic assertion set.

China is not a communist ideological entity intent on taking the world over. Thus, they are not an Enemy. They are an economic competitor in world markets. Only an idiot would use military force against economic competitors.

There is status quo for a good reason, America knows that they simply can't attack China or Russia, as retaliation would mean deaths of dozens of millions of Americans. Do you think that win would be worth it if Los Angeles, Washington, Chicago and all major cities are destroyed and unhabitable for decades?
Same goes for Russia and China. They won't attack America as they know they would loose more than them, and those countries are too big to conquer them by invasion.
To explain it to you this way, would you attack me if you knew that in that case you would loose an arm, and me loosing an arm and leg? Would you consider that victory worth attacking? And that is why we never saw nuclear powers engaging in direct confrontation.

Can you give me an example when America attacked nuclear power?
We all saw what happened in Ukraine,and America didn't dare to go there and help them. If it was some non nuclear power, rest assured they would come.

If china decide to treat protesters as a common criminal then un will not fold her hands for china to have her ways. Definitely,  un and America government will intervene and at that it might lead to war. Something is in the air and that thing may happen soon because of the hate that is been propagate daily on the internet and other means of communication.

We all know American`s super power is just a bluff, btw there is no counter missiles that can hit hypersonic missiles yet, the best thing they can make is another defensive hyper sonic missile but it only goes the same speed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLV1Ao9QkpE So if used as a missile, the counter missile can never catch up but only go the same speed.


I am far more afraid of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbWA51VwTHU

Than this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlReBmHuM5k

I so much disagree with you that there can't be a winner. Even China and Russia knew for sure they are no match to the USA Military. Yes, they too have Nuclear Missiles but USA has stronger and more sophisticated Nuclear defense system. US Military budget is twice more than that of Russia and China combined. Most of the China's military hardware are just what they managed to steal from the USA over the 25years of international espionage made possible by the weak leadership of Bushes, Jimmy Carter, Clinton, and Obama.

Now, America is back and modernizing its military hardware. What China stole will soon be rendered obsolete. We didn't pull out of nuclear treaty for nothing, in fact, Russia and China are currently jittery. All the years of holding America down with one hand through some useless treaties, while developing their military with the other hand are over.

Any direct confrontation with the USA will lead to the end of China and Russia.

America is expert in Espionage, Cold Wars, and Open Confrontations. I don't see any country anywhere in the world as credible challenge. National pride may tell you differently but the reality is there's none. 

^yes it is china land, everyone needs to let china deal with it, and we will not spark a new war.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwSGB7ii2dk Hong Kong Protests Continue, Confrontational and Quiet

LOL how deluded and mistaken you are. The UN? The UN doesn't move a finger without the authorization of the Security Council. Do you even know there is a small select group in there with the power of Veto? Doesn't matter if everyone else votes military intervention, it only takes one veto to block the action, and they don't need to justify it either, if they don't want it that's it. Guess which country belongs to the select group? Yup, China, "People's Republic of".

There are no two options, there never were. And no country, especially not the US, will risk unilateral action against perhaps the largest military force in the world. If China decides to put HK under military curfew then that is that, only the people there might rebel but no one else will get in. Unlike Taiwan, there were no Americans in place to deter any such incursion, it is too late and there won't be anything beyond some old style "pacification" of protestors. You said it well this is China land, for China its a domestic matter, only reason they didn't invade Taiwan is the foreign military presence of another world power. The British didn't think of doing that when they had the chance before their lease expired, so that is that.

The world will do nothing against China, the protesters will be incarcerated, the HK people will learn to behave and things go back to normal, business as usual. Just remember, in China the party reigns is supreme and nobody can dare challenge it ever. No politics. It is root deep in their tradition, they were always ruled by omnipotent emperors and nobody could question them or their court and ministers.

The people from HK who cannot live under such a regime will simply emigrate as there is nothing else they can do about it. The rest will simply adapt and be part of the Chinese way. Welcome to world politics, your little dreams don't matter, people are getting oppressed all over the planet but none of the other world powers care, unless there is something of their interest...

The current Hong Kong protest are neither good for US nor for China.
China would not in any way let Hong Kong breakaway. Hong Kong won't even survive without China. US can't just fund them ever.

China will do whatever they want and everyone will be ok with it. The US has nothing to put against China economically and nobody will win from escalation of conflict. As always, politicians will do big statements but take no serious action.

What you're talking about is WW4. WW3 was the cold war. It formally started with the Korean conflict back in 1950.

20 female Chinese soldiers to 1 US marine, not a chance in hell they win.

A lot of them are calling for US aid, but it is China`s land.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handover_of_Hong_Kong
Midnight on 1 July 1997 is when Hong Kong was owned by China again and not British.

Lol imagine trying to start a democracy in a communist country.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1ZvnzSBQes Military coming in now from China

There cant be any winners  in a wars between U.S, Russia and China.All 3 countries are too big and they have nuclear missiles, therefore even if someone of those 3  starts WW3, it wont end up well for anyone.These big countries having nukes keep this status quo.

The US could never beat China. Just think how many Chinese restaurants there are in the US, and many of them probably employ military "sleepers". Another problem would the the electronics in the US weapons - isn't much of it Chinese? Then of course there is the problem of rare earths - the Chinese control that market, and the US needs a good supply of rare earths for its electronics and weapons.

hong Kong: Violent clashes paralyse airport for second day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fpc-5e4jfgk

still fighting hard.

Here's why China can't beat the USA. There are about 5 times as many people in China. Most guns in America are at least 6 shots. If China arms their people, their people will turn their guns on their own government. China is essentially our slave.

Yah but the way the international world police work, I mean USA, they will be like yo we are the international police of the world!, we gata help deez guys man, send military delta 5 over copy roger 5 9iner over.

Or will they let Hong Kong get owned by China? I think if it was up to me, I would be like yo China, wait up like 1 week before you fuck them up and let us take anyone who wants to leave your commmusim to our country and you can have hong kong back because the British contract is up like 20 years ago.

Those protests on Hong Kong are not a thread for a beginning of a WW3.
It is an internal problem that HK faces and not an international one. Having said that, in order to sparkle a WW3 many international counterparts should be involved which is not the case in this incident.

At midnight on June 30/July 1, 1997, the crown colony of Hong Kong officially reverted to Chinese sovereignty, ending 156 years of British rule.

You understand that is like me being a landlord and my tenants just saying hey we own this now after renting for a few years. GTFO!
China not fucking around guys, you think those smoke grenades were bad?

Wait till you have 2 billion AR`s shooting at you.

Hong Kong situation is quite delicate as it is an independent country, yet part of China and it has to follow China’s rules. A group of people have submitted letters to the UN office in NewYork, it’ll be interesting to see if UN decides to intervene and safe the day for Hong Kong people. Trump has termed it as riots and indicated US will not support the activists, but do you’ll feel that US are instigating these people without coming in limelight?.

Source: https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/3020864/special-delivery-us-based-hongkongers-bring-their-concerns-united

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hongkong-protests-trump/trump-says-its-up-to-china-to-deal-with-hong-kong-riots-idUSKCN1US0OR

Dood, China gonna fucking own HK people in like 30 seconds next protest. The Military is 2 billion strong, They can`t even all fit into HK.

The United Nations needs to get them the fuck out, the British contract is up. That is China land, do not go in after the fact in some "humanitarian crisis" it is already over you just start WW3 that is it.

Two options

Get them out now
Do not get them out ever

Otherwise if you wait and try and get them out, you spark a world war that will lead to us fighting with sticks and stones in 10000 years in ww4.

PRoC was much weaker back in 1989. So no sufficient interfere other than some empty threats.

So this Hong Kong protest is getting nuts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INxOnPCTYJg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikje2lPM5Tg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQfj1Sr1e_8 China warns Hong Kong protesters not to 'play with fire' - BBC News

China is going to put a end to it real quick.

Will the U.N interfere? as some "humanitarian thing"

If they do, expect WW3.