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legendary
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July 02, 2018, 03:35:29 PM
#8
I have to disagree with the price you have estimated for the GPU; the one you chose on ebay is not the Asus version; and I think that in terms of quality, it matters. Otherwise; I'll get in touch with him and suggest the new price. If anyone is willing to buy he/she can PM me now and once I have his updated price, I'll lock this topic; moving it to archival and create a new thread

Doesn't matter, it's a low end GPU that doesn't need good cooling. Get a brand new 1050Ti, and it's still a fraction of your starting bid.
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July 02, 2018, 01:27:18 PM
#7
It's true that the computer might be a bit old; but it doesn't prevent it from being a good one.

Yes, but with a four year old low-end graphics card that is worse than the integrated graphics on a 100$ Ryzen 2200G, an outdated CPU, it's not worth 1600 Euros.

The rgaphics card is not the best part of the computer, but it doesn't prevent me from playing PUBG/Arma 3 or other FPS at 1080 120FPS.

I call BS, PUBG is still very optimized and struggles to run at 120 FPS on more modern graphics cards. Here's an all low settings, minus view distance test with a GT 730 @ 720p. It gets around 40 FPS, or lower. Yes, you have the 4 GB variant, but if you watch the vRAM usage, it doesn't max out. A GTX 660 is better, and at 900p, only manages 60-110 frames.

If I don't specify the details of some components, is because I'm brokering the sale for a friend, who has little knowledge of the Bitcoin forums/how everything works and he wants to get it posted in as many places as possible. I've asked him a bit more, and I got the following: the RAM memory is 1300 ecc/ecx(?)  and the motherboard is a Lenovo; model unknown.

Fair enough. ECC throws a bit of a curveball, so a ECC build takes the cost up when building new to just below 1500 Euros. https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/2chqbX

That's still 100€ less than your starting bid, and has a CPU that is 50% better, a GPU that's 4 times faster, 100% new parts, has higher end motherboard/PSU/fans, much faster RAM and a more expensive case.



Tell your friend that there is little to no chance he'll get 1600 + shipping for outdated hardware. If you lower the price then there might be interested, but from experience prebuilts are really hard to sell so you might want to consider parting out.

And according to you, what would a good price be for that computer? I'll see if I can have him change his mind about it though and create a new thread if I make it; since I cannot edit the one here

40 Euros for CPU
105 Euros for the motherboard
76 Euros for the RAM
32 Euros for the GPU

Buying everything else new is 426 Euros, for a total of 679 Euros.

I have to disagree with the price you have estimated for the GPU; the one you chose on ebay is not the Asus version; and I think that in terms of quality, it matters. Otherwise; I'll get in touch with him and suggest the new price. If anyone is willing to buy he/she can PM me now and once I have his updated price, I'll lock this topic; moving it to archival and create a new thread
legendary
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July 02, 2018, 12:17:00 PM
#6
It's true that the computer might be a bit old; but it doesn't prevent it from being a good one.

Yes, but with a four year old low-end graphics card that is worse than the integrated graphics on a 100$ Ryzen 2200G, an outdated CPU, it's not worth 1600 Euros.

The rgaphics card is not the best part of the computer, but it doesn't prevent me from playing PUBG/Arma 3 or other FPS at 1080 120FPS.

I call BS, PUBG is still very optimized and struggles to run at 120 FPS on more modern graphics cards. Here's an all low settings, minus view distance test with a GT 730 @ 720p. It gets around 40 FPS, or lower. Yes, you have the 4 GB variant, but if you watch the vRAM usage, it doesn't max out. A GTX 660 is better, and at 900p, only manages 60-110 frames.

If I don't specify the details of some components, is because I'm brokering the sale for a friend, who has little knowledge of the Bitcoin forums/how everything works and he wants to get it posted in as many places as possible. I've asked him a bit more, and I got the following: the RAM memory is 1300 ecc/ecx(?)  and the motherboard is a Lenovo; model unknown.

Fair enough. ECC throws a bit of a curveball, so a ECC build takes the cost up when building new to just below 1500 Euros. https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/2chqbX

That's still 100€ less than your starting bid, and has a CPU that is 50% better, a GPU that's 4 times faster, 100% new parts, has higher end motherboard/PSU/fans, much faster RAM and a more expensive case.



Tell your friend that there is little to no chance he'll get 1600 + shipping for outdated hardware. If you lower the price then there might be interested, but from experience prebuilts are really hard to sell so you might want to consider parting out.

And according to you, what would a good price be for that computer? I'll see if I can have him change his mind about it though and create a new thread if I make it; since I cannot edit the one here

40 Euros for CPU
105 Euros for the motherboard
76 Euros for the RAM
32 Euros for the GPU

Buying everything else new is 426 Euros, for a total of 679 Euros.
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July 02, 2018, 10:31:59 AM
#5
Tell your friend that there is little to no chance he'll get 1600 + shipping for outdated hardware. If you lower the price then there might be interested, but from experience prebuilts are really hard to sell so you might want to consider parting out.

And according to you, what would a good price be for that computer? I'll see if I can have him change his mind about it though and create a new thread if I make it; since I cannot edit the one here
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July 02, 2018, 05:33:51 AM
#4
Tell your friend that there is little to no chance he'll get 1600 + shipping for outdated hardware. If you lower the price then there might be interested, but from experience prebuilts are really hard to sell so you might want to consider parting out.
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July 02, 2018, 04:16:58 AM
#3
I can build a much better build for 300 euros less; why should I buy your computer? Also, good luck gaming on a GT 730 (worse than the integrated graphics on the low end Ryzen APU). Parts are identical when possible, unless there's a cheaper and equally performing alternative (HDD), or much better (Ryzen 2700X vs Xeon E5-4620, the Ryzen is minimum 50% faster). Higher end parts were chosen when you didn't specify (Gold rated EVGA GPU, higher end overclocking motherboard, fast RAM, high end case fans). Only "worse" part is that an A400 is slower than a 850 EVO (there is NO 860 EVO in the 120GB variant) where price data was not available. This also has a 1050Ti, which is at minimum 4 times faster than a GT 730, and is on DDR4, which is the current standard of  RAM. This is also 100% new parts.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7GHz 8-Core Processor  (£275.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI - X470 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£119.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£285.32 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Kingston - A400 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£26.39 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£34.74 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB OC Edition Video Card  (£188.06 @ Amazon UK)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£55.79 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£79.79 @ Alza)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  (£99.99 @ Amazon UK)
Sound Card: Creative Labs - Sound Blaster Audigy Rx 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card  (£54.48 @ Amazon UK)
Case Fan: Noctua - NF-A14 PWM 82.5 CFM  140mm Fan  (£18.95 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case Fan: Noctua - NF-A14 PWM 82.5 CFM  140mm Fan  (£18.95 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case Fan: Noctua - NF-A14 PWM 82.5 CFM  140mm Fan  (£18.95 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case Fan: Noctua - NF-A14 PWM 82.5 CFM  140mm Fan  (£18.95 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Total: £1296.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-02 03:31 BST+01008-07-02 03:30 BST+0100 |



You can "scam" someone with an overpriced build on local used marketplace, but that's almost certainly not happening on a tech forum. Just because you probably paid $1600+ for your CPU doesn't mean it's worth that much today. You can even get a 16 core/32 thread processor for less than 700 Euros with faster clock speeds!

Since this is an auction, I'd be grateful if only bids were posted in the comments. Nevertheless, your comments are apreciated.

It's true that the computer might be a bit old; but it doesn't prevent it from being a good one.

The rgaphics card is not the best part of the computer, but it doesn't prevent me from playing PUBG/Arma 3 or other FPS at 1080 120FPS.

If I don't specify the details of some components, is because I'm brokering the sale for a friend, who has little knowledge of the Bitcoin forums/how everything works and he wants to get it posted in as many places as possible. I've asked him a bit more, and I got the following: the RAM memory is 1300 ecc/ecx(?)  and the motherboard is a Lenovo; model unknown.
legendary
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July 01, 2018, 09:37:04 PM
#2
I can build a much better build for 300 euros less; why should I buy your computer? Also, good luck gaming on a GT 730 (worse than the integrated graphics on the low end Ryzen APU). Parts are identical when possible, unless there's a cheaper and equally performing alternative (HDD), or much better (Ryzen 2700X vs Xeon E5-4620, the Ryzen is minimum 50% faster). Higher end parts were chosen when you didn't specify (Gold rated EVGA GPU, higher end overclocking motherboard, fast RAM, high end case fans). Only "worse" part is that an A400 is slower than a 850 EVO (there is NO 860 EVO in the 120GB variant) where price data was not available. This also has a 1050Ti, which is at minimum 4 times faster than a GT 730, and is on DDR4, which is the current standard of  RAM. This is also 100% new parts.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7GHz 8-Core Processor  (£275.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI - X470 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£119.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£285.32 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Kingston - A400 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£26.39 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£34.74 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB OC Edition Video Card  (£188.06 @ Amazon UK)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£55.79 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£79.79 @ Alza)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  (£99.99 @ Amazon UK)
Sound Card: Creative Labs - Sound Blaster Audigy Rx 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card  (£54.48 @ Amazon UK)
Case Fan: Noctua - NF-A14 PWM 82.5 CFM  140mm Fan  (£18.95 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case Fan: Noctua - NF-A14 PWM 82.5 CFM  140mm Fan  (£18.95 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case Fan: Noctua - NF-A14 PWM 82.5 CFM  140mm Fan  (£18.95 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case Fan: Noctua - NF-A14 PWM 82.5 CFM  140mm Fan  (£18.95 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Total: £1296.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-02 03:31 BST+01008-07-02 03:30 BST+0100 |



You can "scam" someone with an overpriced build on local used marketplace, but that's almost certainly not happening on a tech forum. Just because you probably paid $1600+ for your CPU doesn't mean it's worth that much today. You can even get a 16 core/32 thread processor for less than 700 Euros with faster clock speeds!
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July 01, 2018, 03:43:07 PM
#1
Auction of a desktop computer/workstation with the following characteristics:

  • Processor: Intel Xeon E5-4620 with 8 cores and 16 threads. 16mb cache at 2.6GHz (max)
  • Memory32gb of ram; 8 4GB slots
  • Graphis card: Nvidia Asus Gt730 with 4gb of vram
  • SSD Samsung evo 860; 120GB
  • HDD Seagate Barracuda 1TB
  • Frame: ATX Kolink Aviator V, with the possibility of liquid refrigeration. 4 fans included at the moment
  • Sound card: Sound Blaster Audigy RX
  • Operating System: Windows 10 Home

Computer can be used both for gaming or working under higgh demands; such as video editing.

Starting price: 1600€

The currency used at the Auction will be the EURO (€), and once it is finished; the winning ammount will be converted to BTC using current market prices.

Auction will finish on the 9th of JULY 2018; 00:00UTC Every new offer will extend this deadline by 3 hours.

Shipping and derivated expenses; such as customs; will be payed by the winner.




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