Topic: XPYPONZI.COM 100% TRANSPARENT PONZI 75% Money Back Gurantee (Read 6215 times)

Contacted the authorities again with our claim. Local Allentown government and federal agencies as well.
FBI, ICE, FTC, SEC, etc.

No response from either Freddy or his father.

Just reopened the spreadsheet, moved both sites/deposits to seperate sheets.
ThunderFaNs is open to view and edit partially (XPY/BTC wallets), Hellgremlins only open to view as he has refunded most if not all that were elligable.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZLwl4HJvhYadZ-FjdF3EwzwLjWZizEyK27wrfqOVv8s/

Final number (excl. costs) posted on the sheet as well.

If you previously changed or edited your XPY wallet to BTC, please add XPY as well.

The proposal sent to Freddy (i'm now in contact with his father) is for 40BTC and 4500XPY (incl. costs made by Stinkey, zyk, Oliver (dev) and me)

It actually worked pretty well.   I stopped the new Ponzi to fix a few issues and add some new features.   I'm pretty excited about some of the new stuff for ponziplayer.com and glad i pulled the plugh to make the addons when i did. 

Here is a future tip: do not try to recover ponzi losses by doing more ponzis. It doesn't work well

Just FYI as i got a few access requests already:

Both spreadsheets are temporarily disabled while Hells is refunding people. Will be opened again in less than a week.
The problem was HG was losing track as people were randomly picking txid's, and asking to refund to another wallet than deposited from.

He will update me when done, then we will focus on TF.

I'm not defending HG, he fucked up by doing manual payouts and promising things that could not sustain or work: a 75% refund.. For a ponzi..

The reason i removed his details: it was cluttering the FB, as i had it originally intended for Freddy. Also: he is trying to pay all complainers.
You are free to post yourself though. As long as everyone keeps it professional i won't censor or moderate.

As he posted/advertised his new site himself, i don't see the problem. You either deposit or you don't.
I don't as i have no BTC left, but otherwise, i see no problem not to.

He is a ponzi operator, plain and simple. You know what you get yourself into.
Freddy John Schiller is a scammer, as he advertised and promoted his site as investments through a trading bot, instead of a ponzi. He lied to everyone. HG didn't.
He just fucked it up and then got lost in his promise to refund everyone 75%.

Hells is still planning to pay all you out 75% of your deposit. Give him time to do so, as he doesn't have the coin to pay everyone in one go.

If you are waiting on XPY: message him on HT (handle Gremlin123), with txid, amount and walletaddress.
He will check and add you on the list.

I should be refunded in a day or so, i'll keep you all updated and will update the spreadsheets with everyones payout.

EDIT: Received my 75% back, txid 6e54c9f5d07b74b07cbb80a8a4c847ce5ab93ce6d0f18860ce55ef9b3102f984

Nothing by Freddy, but Bryon (Hellsgremlin) responded:

How dare you say or claim i scammed you or anybody else.  You actually profited from xpyponzi.com  Your last 2 deposited didn't get funded and you are still harassing me about this?  You chose to play in a ponzi some self reflection friend

A.  The name of the website was XPYponzi and had very informative description of how your money would be used and how your winnings would be achieved.
B.  You Violated the Deposit Limits ( You asked for permission and i warned you " AT YOUR OWN RISK" That only 10xpy was covered under the 75% return guarantee )
C.  You and 3 other people insisted work with Fred aka thunder to allow him to take over the debt and site,  I was initially against this because I had serious doubts about him you insisted he was a good guy and it would relieve me of the debt.
D.  Why do you feel that I " Stole " xpy from you.  I didn't steal a thing man,  Ponzi's run dry its what they do.   At-least i was upfront with every single one of you every step of the way.   There were over 100 different people who played on that site,  out of the 9 people that lost only 3 of you are complaining.  
E.  The most interesting part about you being one of the complainers is that you had profited much more then you lost endgame.   Why are you so greedy
F.  Your claim that i " Stole Hundreds of XPY" doesnt even line up with the fact that I'm practically publicly begging for a loan so can get a bigger stake in the game.  All my accounts were fully posted,  you could see everything I have.
G.  I was still considering reaching out to all 3 of you and to pay you the xpy. It had nothing to do with a feeling of obligation but more of sympathy.   I've been in your shoes.  

You and I spoke alto during those few days and I know you know i didn't steal your xpy its just not in my nature to steal which was the whole point in sharing my identity and being as transparent as i was about everything,
 

P.S  You guys didn't "Uncover" me in the forums.  I wasn't hiding & that my post history shows I publicly identified myself to everyone telling everyone who I was in a previous thread.

In case the scammer removes the post as he is scared shitless and deleting his online presence (FB, Twitter, Linkedin, etc) in an alarming rate.. Ever heard of backups? Besides, the authorities still can recover all..

As i've posted it in chat several times:

A backup of XPYLotto website, just from a few hours before it went offline.
Better than screenshots!

http://www.filedropper.com/xpylotto

Andre (allegro16)


The scammer, Frederick -Freddy- (John) Schiller AKA ThunderFaN --> https://www.facebook.com/XPYLotto all info will eventually end up here.

He confessed in email (available on request) being one and the same as ThunderFaN and stolen/invested/losing the coin..

--
FREDERICK -Freddy- (J)ohn Schiller

Address:

14845539168 (mobile)
4899 Liberty Lane, APT 2D, ALLENTOWN, Pennsylvania, 18106, US

Previous:

14845532695 (phone)
7267 Heather Road, MACUNGIE, Pennsylvania, 18062, US

http://pagelous.com/en/pages/52dc7a1ba8fe2044fc006045
https://twitter.com/LehighAutoMile
http://www.twitch.tv/thunderfan83/profile
http://www.whoismind.com/email/[email protected]
http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=151316439&authType=name&authToken=juyu&locale=&goback=%2Enpv_151316439_*1_*1_name_juyu_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1
 https://www.facebook.com/fjschiller

[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]



Regarding the website: i've created a FB page. As naming and shaming is legal for private persons for as long you have proof here, i will update it next week.

https://www.facebook.com/XPYLotto
If taken down, i'll put the info on a website hosted in The Netherlands. It will then stay up until i stop paying. It can't be taken down.

ALL investors in HG and TF sites (XPYPonzi and XPYLotto):

Help Stinkey update the spreadsheet so we have an updated grand total of coins lost.

Even if it doesn't pan out, an updated total would help with a possible future claim.

Do NOT use your XPY wallet address, use BTC. If paid they will be converted to BTC.


Spreadsheet:
Latest spreadsheet.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZLwl4HJvhYadZ-FjdF3EwzwLjWZizEyK27wrfqOVv8s/

FUCKING SAMMERS... CHECK MY POST ON NEW THREAD

We are discussing things here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=930445.new;topicseen#new thanks.

was looking through that thread  
Seriously, I you got screwed you can't really complain...
You should rather wear a hat for a month with written on it "I am a moron"
Not everybody get paid...it's a ponzi Duh!!!  

@ThunderFaN

Thank you for your initiative. Very much appreciated here

I don't understand very well how you will pay XPYPonzi.com investors back, but I think you have a very good concept and you made a nice website http://www.xpylotto.com/ very fast.

Here is a direct link to the XPYPonzi chatbox: https://www.chatbutton.com/chatroom/18361425/

Some people are still speaking there.

Let's recap.

2014- The year can be summed up in three words, price decline & scams. Tired of pre-orders that never came, ponzi's that never paid, and mining farms that suddenly go offline - I decided to accept the responsibility bestowed upon me by my fellow community members and create a new platform for cryptocurrency.
The purpose of this platform is to provide the community with the tools necessary to promote adoption while strengthening the community through a unified goal, profit. It gives investors big and small the opportunity to make money, share ideas, and communicate with each other.

I am in no way responsible for what happened on Hells website. I was a victim like all of you. I have personally made the decision to take over and make every effort to repay all investments at the declared rate of 175% by my own choice. I am doing this in hopes that I will gain your appreciation, support, and patronage. I ask that we as a community come together and put a stop to these ubiquitous scams. Help promote, share your comments, let people know how I am doing. As I begin to see commissions coming in I will follow the spreadsheet and pay deposits first to last.

The following will be provided:

Transparency
Option of high/low risk investments
Providing needed services such as insured escrow
Sustainability
Growth- based on community feedback
Opportunity to profit
Reliable platform for communication

We hope to grow quickly, over time, based on community demand. We welcome constructive feedback and ideas. There are plans to implement more features soon. At this time there are 3 main investing options which produce returns.

The lottery. Buy tickets and be paid out in btc or xpy. No limit on the quantity of tickets that can be purchased. The timestamp on the deposit puts the buyer in a queue. 1 ticket takes up 1 spot, 2 tickets take up 2 spots, 10 tickets take up 10 spots etc. Drawings are daily. At the time of drawing a random number generator will populate a number between 1-x, where x is the total number of tickets. That number is the winning ticket and the depositing address will receive 95% of the deposits. There is one lottery for xpy, and a separate lottery for btc. Both payout daily.

Each week there will be 1 Jackpot on a random day. The first weeks jackpot will be day 1, the first drawing. The jackpot pays additional XPY on top of the 95% of deposits. The first Jackpot is coming straight from me and is 50 XPY.

Simmi .The most advanced trading bot used in beta tests drawing from real stock quotes produces extraordinary return rates. The returns are not always positive.That would be impossible. To guarantee profit for investors there is a specific strategy in place. All profits above and beyond 2x are transferred to a separate fund. From this fund they are split half into high margin trading and half into low risk/ low return investments. If an investors deposit dips below 1.5x (the minimum payout) the difference is made up from the separate margin trading account. Because of this, there is a 45 hour window between deposit and payout to allow sufficient time for trading. Also, the payouts will range from 1.5x up to and including 2x (where x is the initial deposit). This fluctuation is primarily due to the volatility of the markets. By using a variable payout system, Simmi greatly increases the sustainability of high payouts. If the market is consistently down and the profit from Simmi's short trades do not outweigh the decrease in coin value the payouts may need to be lowered. If this is the case, Simmi will stop accepting new deposits, pay out all current deposits at the proper rate, and then begin accepting new deposits at the new payout rate which will be posted on the site.

Escrow and other features coming soon.

Site is now live. Good luck and be well!

xpylotto.com

that's awesome.  yeah, hells' got me upset.  i vouched for him and sent him a customer or two and to boot i sent that foolio 37 xpy.  i wish dude the best, but i don't want to send anymore business his way.  i can't stand for lies and deception, and his attitude about it all has been defensive rather than remorseful.  anyhow...i look forward to folks getting paid. 

I was just checking the spreadsheet and these transactions are mine and not paid yet.

I'm waiting for payment so I can reinvest.


c38b096b35c12809   32079   1/13/2015 9:19:00   10
880e52ef7a50f5a9   32079   1/13/2015 9:19:00   10
08c65f55b2a93fe7   32079   1/13/2015 9:19:00   10
d145003db05a8a0f   32079   1/13/2015 9:19:00   10
333c436f1a734d28   32079   1/13/2015 9:19:00   10
476dc097001a1a3a   32079   1/13/2015 9:19:00   10
24f5b887dc189de6   32079   1/13/2015 9:19:00   10
e358789a1cd5f02c   32079   1/13/2015 9:19:00   10
bbc901bf654c4f86   32079   1/13/2015 9:19:00   10
c7e28ce335298a1b   32081   1/13/2015 9:20:00   10

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19sOboB3K4TWdM3VOYImx8c8VfgCAMSJpXZcCk7i53Zs/edit?pli=1#gid=0

What is the link to the spreadsheet?

Sounds great.
We needed someone with the real purpose of not deceiving or cheating. We all have scars to account for that and some scars are deep.
Thank you.

Almost none, I am asking he directs his customers to the new site and to complete the spreedsheet of customers net yet paid. Otherwise I am essentially purchasing the debt and asked him to repay me directly as I pay out the bad debt he holds. The site will be up tonight at 10pm EST, I will post the address later. There will be a functional support feature, as well as a chat feature ( as requested)

I have been rushing to do this, it is good considering the limited time since I was asked to take over (1day). Please keep in mind more features will be added as time goes on. There will be no such things as "missing payouts" or unacceptably late payouts, or wrong payouts. etc. etc. The site will operate exactly as described. Some things had to be changed to account for this. Please bear with me during this first week. I see no reason the site can not operate indefinitely, at least the entire year. All of my information is public, I am building this for the community, with many community members help. Thank you to those who have assisted so far, I greatly appreciate it.

I have been the victim of many bad investments and scams over the past year, as many of you have. Together we can operate a site that both strengthens the community and offers exciting ways of making money.

Look for my post later tonight.. before 10pm EST for the site name + details!

Best regards,

best of luck to you thunderfan with your new site.  i wish you much success, in what capacity is HG involved with thenew site ? 

anyway i could help i dont know nothing about coding but if you need any help im down im tired of scammers! i want to also create a LTC ponzi but i dont know how i wanna create a bitcoin one too but if someone helps me i will split profits we make from fees 50/50

To anyone that did not yet receive their payout..

I will be taking over where HG failed/left off.

Many of you, including me, did not get paid.. while others that invested after did make their profit. This is very frustrating. I have a new system, with additional features, that I will be launching tomorrow.

There is a variable payout system based on my trading bot, market movement, etc. As well as additional features and investment opportunity. There is risk involved, but it is much, much lower.

There is a googledocs sheet with the investments not paid. I intend to pay 175% as that was the expected rate of return when the investment was made. This will not happen immediately. HG is still responsible for making restitution but I intend to help speed up the process dramatically while providing a service that is very much in demand.

If things work out, everybody will have their investments paid, and have the opportunity to make some additional crypto. I will be taking in revenue stream in the form of commission, straight percentage. A small % of many transactions will keep the site operating and allow for growth opportunities.

I will post an update tomorrow with the site name.

Kind regards,

aaaaand we have a new one

http://xpyprofit.com/

...

Report your own Criminal Activity?
 You are a accomplice - You willingly too part in a known Ponzi.


I seen your HT msg,  Good luck. 

DNP, my apologies to you.  i have egg on my face.  you were right.

so, mr HG reappears after a day of no-show and suddenly is all contrite and apologetic about "how he screwed up" and how he has no more funds, and no job, oh he's so sorry...

and admitted the "sustain" fund doesnt exist any more, and that screen shot he posted here yesterday was a total fake.

and suddenly everyone in his chatroom are eating it all up! they are so desparately greedy and money hungry they'll believe anything
and are encourage him to restart. omfg.

so sad to watch the disaster continue to get bigger.

shaking my head...

not really, that's why i was discouraging investors early yesterday.
his absolute refusal to put up any notices on his website about what is going on was a serious warning sign.

@Hellsgremlin what a good actor,,,

well I give him 3 hrs left b4 I start filing

well now, you have not dissapointed me.
its been a little about 62 hours since i invested. your website still claims you do payout runs every 4 hours. so that means you've had 3 payout opportunities to make good on your 48hour/75% 'guarantee.'

you have not. and from the looks of the chatbox on your website, nobody has seen any sign of money all day.

such guarantee. much money. so reliable. wow

9 mins to go! Come on HG do us right!

No payout received and no reply to my e-mail...  

Investment done on Tuesday (blocks 31873 and 31925), more than 55 hours.

no payout for 60 hours now, not even 75%

5:00pm est

the webpage still says every 4 hours.
that's all anyone can know -- what they says on the website.

When is the next payout? I heard it was 5 PM eastern. Can anybody confirm that?

well if he hasn't gone yet hope he reads my message I sent him on HT

http://www.badbitcoin.org/

it feels like a jerk, not a fuck  

you got fucked. 

talk about a surprise

he posted a pretty picture showing a balance of a few hundred coins.
isn't that proof of integrity? don't get distracted by lack of actual performance.

he screwed up handling a simple first-in/first-out queue (he made out-of-sequence payouts) and is now talking about relaunching an expanded site with more features, little games or something. how in the hell does he think he's going to manage that if he cant manage a simple queue?

also the first 'feature' boasted on the web page is "full transparency."
however he wont post a clear/concise update on the webpage as to the current status of the operation because he tells me that would look like a  'big red flag.'
ahhh, so full transparency means only when it doesn't look bad.

people are making excuses for him/her, that he's tired -- he's been up all day the last couple days, etc...
well, pretty much proof he's in way over his head.

apparently he claims to have hired 'professionals' to develop his planned site relaunch. oh great, now he thinks they're capable of managing people too.

and those of us who were skipped in his payout screwup, those of us who would have got a full investment return, i'm sure will be expected to show gratitude if he actually manages to pay us 75% of our investment back. oh look! they honoured his guarantee!! woo hoo! (but wait, i should have had a full investment payout...)

sure 75%, later than promised, is better than nothing. but i really hope there is no expectation of gratitude.

he's actually a bigger menace than a real scam. people will keep giving them the benefit of doubt and people will keep losing.
but then, probably is a real scam.

Its a scammer.
There was no plan for a return.

been waiting over 52 hours for payout, I was completely skipped. Don't work on updates or other things, take care of payouts first then work on site. The way you are going you won't have a site to work on if you keep people waiting any longer. I understand you want to do the right thing and build this up to a nice site, well again if you continue this way no one will come.  

Payout never happened

Dont invest.

Some people waiting more as 48hrs.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!No payments and returns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

awsome site now we need a LTC one

so he's blaming another ponzi for his own ponzi's failure?

awesome.

and i'll report back here when he fails on the 48hour/75% guarantee.

so apparently this dude running xpyponzi was doing 'manual payouts' yesterday.
and apparently had no procedures in place to do it right. no checks, no balances.
and now claims to have overlooked/skipped a block or more of transactions. people got paid
out of order -- and the skipped ones are still waiting for more funding.

okay, mistakes happen.

but, he's refusing to communicate this openly with any sort of notice on his website.
he prefers people sit wondering wtf happened, or hunt him down in a chatbox to get answers.
i had to ask several times before he would even answer what time periods the skipped blocks covered.

when pressed why he does not post a public notice, he said he prefers a 'personal touch.'
immedately following that with personally confusing one of his chatroom investors with someone else and accusing them of trying to pull some sort of payout fraud against him. good personal touch there!

he's convinced proper communication/site-notice is a 'big red flag'.
i'm convincned incompetent communication is far worse and just indicitive of his general lack of business sense.

no, he's not a scam.
he's incompetent.
too incompetent to manage payouts, too incompetent to communicate, and certainly his shiney new automated payout script will more than likely blow up.

nope. dont need a scam to lose money, just incompetence.

when i told him i've mentally wrote-off my minor investment, he said he will remember that when he does any catch up payments. cool. vindictive site manager too.

not a scam, just too dangerous to be allowed to deal with anything with more than 2 transactions.
i'd avoid him folks even if it means he will never be able to fund my payouts.

if you think you can go to a casino and get a better winning % go for it.  you will crap out within the first 3 bets.  this is the only site that actually pays and i have confidence in.

my apologies to anyone that sent xpy and did not get paid out.  turns out hells isn't so stand up. DO NOT SEND ANYMORE DEPOSITS

i have used this site, and it paid me out 175%.  the operator of this site is a respected member of HT.  Not really sure why more people are not taking advantage of this.  i am hoping to recover some of my losses from cryptodouble ...doh !  

my deposit: 1599b22b2c51b4d9d91df4b35456be32e8e108c8d18f0a5507c5c0a8d2b51107

my payout:  6ec7f65e73d3d536ea15f0f237fd73fdc8b8f4355b66a6bed638c97f41ac9597


edit:  DO NOT SEND THIS SITE ANYMORE DEPOSITS. 

Hi
what is the last investment which was doubled?

Major Updates coming Soon,  Expected Launch :  1/19/2015  
 Between Now and then Expect to see new features gradual rolled out and the website experiance some down times as we prep for the Rebirth!

FaucetPonzi
Pays Each New User of the Site .002 Xpy Which He or She Will have the option to withdraw Or Continue to Play.   This Faucet will only Be available 1 once Per Week.  More Details will be available On release Expected Sunday. (

Website Wallets,  Withdraw or Reinvest Options.  

Mini Games -  Challenge Users Ahead of You In Que To Trade Spots in the payout line . These Will Be Scored games.  (Minesweep, Snake,Astroids Clone type games)     If Challenger Loses They Sacrifice 25% Of their Investment to The Winner.  

3 Different Ponzis Levels to play in

1.  Dumper  - Payouts Flow as Soon as Payout threshold is reached In order they are received (Min 1 - 10 Max)

                         130% Payout Threshold - 5% House Fee = 125% Return <--- Low Risk Fast returns Small Gain
2.  Investor  - Payouts Flow Once Every 24 Hours  All Funded Payouts will Paid out in 1 Large Wallet Dump Unfunded Deposits Get Que'd                   (Min 15 - 50 Max)      153% Payout Threshold - 3% House Fee = 150% Returns <--- Medium Risk Moderate Returns
3.  Whale     - Payouts Flow Weekly.  All UnFunded Deposits Will be Qued until The Following Weeks Payout. (Min 100 - 1,0000 Max)
                       - 206% PayoutThreshold - 2% House Fee - 4% Incentive Pot = 200% Return

What is the incentive pot
This is a Pool Applied to The end of the Whale Pool.  The Very Last Deposit before the week Ends Will win 4% Of All incoming Whale Pool Funds.  The winnings will not affect your payout status as you if you are the last bet on the week your Investment payout will be que'd until the following week.  However you will be paid your winnings with the current weeks Payout.   You will be givin the option to Ponzi or withdrawl these winnings)

Automated Payouts and Deposit logging
Easy to read Deposit / payout Onsite logs.  No more block chain madness!


As of now All payouts have Stopped,  Until 5pm Eastern Time tomorrow
I Now have 2 partners we will remain 100% Transparent.  You will find them in chat from time to time.  Ill let them announce themselfs



  

I start them Every 4 Hours.   Take me about 30 minutes to get the payouts flowing after tracking down all the addresses and logging txid's 


Also The Next payout will be delayed until 12pm Noon Tomorrow Eastern Time.   As im human and need to sleep.  I should be automated within 2 days.  Devs have been hired and are working on scripts.

I just finished the 12am to 4am.  If you havent been paid yet i would expect you should see your return in about 6 hours as deposits are still flowing as i type this.

still paying?

@Hellsgremlin, can you check my deposits? I sent them a while ago. I can PM you. Just want to get an ETA on payouts before i start to promote your site

How would you like me to pay 75% to all investors @ end game?  I'm not working for free here.  175% In 4 hours is 1 hell of a return.   25% seems fair.  Considering I keep 10% and use 15% to to cover slow times until its depleated.   The goal her is everyone can make a lot while If it crashes only a few can lose Little No other ponzi is offering 75% back if your endgame!

Please put Ponzi schemes in gambling.

As service, it is a scam, because obviously the last ones paying will get nothing.
As gambling... it's "legit": people can assume that there's a change to lose.

IT's 175% back. Its only 75% if the ponzi crashes and no one invests after you.

25% is high too. It should be like 5-10%

I'm still waiting for my first payments. Been a while now :/

New investor. Thanks. Will drop a tenner

I have gotten paid twice so far. Waiting for next round


JDU79

Things are going quite well honestly.

Dream on OP dream on

it's not right though , send 100% , get back 75% ... rater do a yolo in a casino 

huge house fee lol.. what makes you think that people will love your ponzi?

so the other 25% eaten by the site ? ? 

175%  Return Payouts Every 4 Hours.  If your Payout Thresholdis not met withing 48 hour.  75% of your Deposit will be Returned.   We will never hold your funds more then 48 Hours.   I do not hide my identity and I take a 10% Fee So there is no need to " Run with The Money"
15% of the fee goes to a sustain fund which will Help keep Payouts Flowing When New deposits are slow.