http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_wsite2_1_03/03/2015_547856
Instead of stimulating business growth they now want to waste time and $$$ to analyze bank accounts of the unemployed? There will ALWAYS be people who cheat the system. Implement a system that creates an acceptable amount of "tax slippage" and move on, you will never be able to collect every bit of taxes.
When will citizens start demanding their elected PUBLIC officials start using a PUBLIC ledger for expenditures?
Topic: Yanis-Varoufakis-Greece, Bitcoin WILL save them from Europe. It won't be pretty. (Read 6213 times)
March 03, 2015, 04:54:25 PM
March 03, 2015, 09:40:11 AM
I have been trying to get blockchains and Bitcoin going in Albania too. If you think property rights are a problem in Greece, you have not seen their neighbors to the West.
March 03, 2015, 01:23:29 AM
Max Keiser is addressing it in his program:
Keiser Report: Can Bitcoin save Greece? (E724)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s7UVY5yv7Y
Nothing can save Greece.Keiser Report: Can Bitcoin save Greece? (E724)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s7UVY5yv7Y
They want to consume more than they produce, forever.
There's no way to make that happen anywhere in the world
This is one of the best posts in a this thread. Followed by the suggestion for them to create their own crypto coin or even adapt a coin besides bitcoin, hint there are several with good security to choose from.
However, if greece wants to save themselves then they should take a page from iceland. Put the bankers and politicians who caused the mess in jail. The greece debt is a fraud against their people. Jail the fucking bankers, like iceland did. Does iceland need bitcoin to save iceland?
I like the way you think...
The problem with this, most bankers are backed by government and politicians are voted by the public. The people should elect the right people and they will keep the bankers in place.
Your "vote" is your strongest tool to correct the wrongs in your country.
If you throw all of them in jail, you will create a experience vacuume, that needs to be filled with unknown new entities, at possibly higher salaries.
Not all of them are corrupt, rather identify the corrupt individuals and get rid of them to set the example to the rest.
March 02, 2015, 11:42:58 PM
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Beliathon
Greece may be just getting warmed up. Historically, countries can fall a long way down until they hit bottom. The violence may come later.
I would characterize Greece's plight NOT as a failure of Capitalism because it was never tried in Greece. Greece has had a corrupt oligarchy running the place... If I had had Greek in-laws, there would have been NO WAY we could have built a business, from scratch, to the success we have had in PERU.
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+ 1 for your observation that a monster global iceberg may be lurking...
The rest of Europe is not looking good either (ex-Germany). The USA has its own problems that are likely to get worse (IMO).
Japan is very weak. Even China has big problems not often recognized by casual observers.
Beliathon
Greece may be just getting warmed up. Historically, countries can fall a long way down until they hit bottom. The violence may come later.
I would characterize Greece's plight NOT as a failure of Capitalism because it was never tried in Greece. Greece has had a corrupt oligarchy running the place... If I had had Greek in-laws, there would have been NO WAY we could have built a business, from scratch, to the success we have had in PERU.
* * *
+ 1 for your observation that a monster global iceberg may be lurking...
The rest of Europe is not looking good either (ex-Germany). The USA has its own problems that are likely to get worse (IMO).
Japan is very weak. Even China has big problems not often recognized by casual observers.
March 02, 2015, 10:04:47 PM
Greece today is a direct view of the ongoing divorce between capitalism and democracy. All things considered I would have expected much more violence.
Or maybe Greece is just the tip of a monster iceberg globally. Is anyone still steering this ship? Methinks not.
Or maybe Greece is just the tip of a monster iceberg globally. Is anyone still steering this ship? Methinks not.
March 02, 2015, 08:21:56 PM
Max Keiser is addressing it in his program:
Keiser Report: Can Bitcoin save Greece? (E724)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s7UVY5yv7Y
Nothing can save Greece.Keiser Report: Can Bitcoin save Greece? (E724)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s7UVY5yv7Y
They want to consume more than they produce, forever.
There's no way to make that happen anywhere in the world
This is one of the best posts in a this thread. Followed by the suggestion for them to create their own crypto coin or even adapt a coin besides bitcoin, hint there are several with good security to choose from.
However, if greece wants to save themselves then they should take a page from iceland. Put the bankers and politicians who caused the mess in jail. The greece debt is a fraud against their people. Jail the fucking bankers, like iceland did. Does iceland need bitcoin to save iceland?
Lol, tons of Greece people are legit poor these days, they can't even eat and pay basic necesities, how do they want to consume more than they want to produce if they can't even meet basic needs.
This is why they need to walk away from the euro while adopting a debt free currency.. You make it sound like the mess throughout the euro, not just greece is going to go away if greece can somehow pay its debts… that is nonsense, they might be able to kick the can down the road by a few more years but I'm not sure who benefits except from a very small pool of bankers, who for all i can drown at the bottom of. Eventually everyone will go hungry at this rate.
March 02, 2015, 08:20:01 PM
Max Keiser is addressing it in his program:
Keiser Report: Can Bitcoin save Greece? (E724)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s7UVY5yv7Y
Nothing can save Greece.Keiser Report: Can Bitcoin save Greece? (E724)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s7UVY5yv7Y
They want to consume more than they produce, forever.
There's no way to make that happen anywhere in the world
This is one of the best posts in a this thread. Followed by the suggestion for them to create their own crypto coin or even adapt a coin besides bitcoin, hint there are several with good security to choose from.
However, if greece wants to save themselves then they should take a page from iceland. Put the bankers and politicians who caused the mess in jail. The greece debt is a fraud against their people. Jail the fucking bankers, like iceland did. Does iceland need bitcoin to save iceland?
Yes their economy is crap and capital controls are at an all time high.
Its very difficult to import anything and or to move money where you want to….
Have you heard of auroacoin… It was a good idea and still is, perhaps a few years to early and employed in the wrong or rushed way.
March 02, 2015, 11:17:02 AM
Max Keiser is addressing it in his program:
Keiser Report: Can Bitcoin save Greece? (E724)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s7UVY5yv7Y
Nothing can save Greece.Keiser Report: Can Bitcoin save Greece? (E724)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s7UVY5yv7Y
They want to consume more than they produce, forever.
There's no way to make that happen anywhere in the world
This is one of the best posts in a this thread. Followed by the suggestion for them to create their own crypto coin or even adapt a coin besides bitcoin, hint there are several with good security to choose from.
However, if greece wants to save themselves then they should take a page from iceland. Put the bankers and politicians who caused the mess in jail. The greece debt is a fraud against their people. Jail the fucking bankers, like iceland did. Does iceland need bitcoin to save iceland?
Lol, tons of Greece people are legit poor these days, they can't even eat and pay basic necesities, how do they want to consume more than they want to produce if they can't even meet basic needs.
March 02, 2015, 11:14:47 AM
if greece leaves the eurozone, shortly portuguese, spain, italy, france will follow
the end of united europe will come
and why germany refuses the return of their loan of 476 Bilion Reichsmark to greece taken in second world war ?
the end of united europe will come
and why germany refuses the return of their loan of 476 Bilion Reichsmark to greece taken in second world war ?
March 02, 2015, 10:55:56 AM
Max Keiser is addressing it in his program:
Keiser Report: Can Bitcoin save Greece? (E724)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s7UVY5yv7Y
Nothing can save Greece.Keiser Report: Can Bitcoin save Greece? (E724)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s7UVY5yv7Y
They want to consume more than they produce, forever.
There's no way to make that happen anywhere in the world
This is one of the best posts in a this thread. Followed by the suggestion for them to create their own crypto coin or even adapt a coin besides bitcoin, hint there are several with good security to choose from.
However, if greece wants to save themselves then they should take a page from iceland. Put the bankers and politicians who caused the mess in jail. The greece debt is a fraud against their people. Jail the fucking bankers, like iceland did. Does iceland need bitcoin to save iceland?
March 02, 2015, 10:33:09 AM
maybe Satoshi Nakamoto and Bitcoin technology is deus ex machina for Greek economy. I think in the next month we will see many suprises from Varoufakis and the greek goverment.
They don't have the balls needed to be insane enough to accept Bitcoin... the first that does it is risking a lot since its experimental. 
March 02, 2015, 10:32:03 AM
maybe Satoshi Nakamoto and Bitcoin technology is deus ex machina for Greek economy. I think in the next month we will see many suprises from Varoufakis and the greek goverment.
March 02, 2015, 08:48:45 AM
Why Greece Should Not Switch To Bitcoin
In some discussions about Greece exiting the euro, it has been suggested that Greece should swap the euro for bitcoin. At first glance, bitcoin may appear to be the cure. But if the euro is the problem, switching to Bitcoin would be like trying to cure a headache with a bullet to the brain.
http://techcrunch.com/2015/02/28/why-greece-should-not-switch-to-bitcoin/?ncid=rss
In some discussions about Greece exiting the euro, it has been suggested that Greece should swap the euro for bitcoin. At first glance, bitcoin may appear to be the cure. But if the euro is the problem, switching to Bitcoin would be like trying to cure a headache with a bullet to the brain.
http://techcrunch.com/2015/02/28/why-greece-should-not-switch-to-bitcoin/?ncid=rss
It would be pretty bullish for Bitcoin if Greece adopted it
February 28, 2015, 05:15:22 PM
nothing can save Greece, they are fU%£ed
February 28, 2015, 03:11:50 PM
Why Greece Should Not Switch To Bitcoin
In some discussions about Greece exiting the euro, it has been suggested that Greece should swap the euro for bitcoin. At first glance, bitcoin may appear to be the cure. But if the euro is the problem, switching to Bitcoin would be like trying to cure a headache with a bullet to the brain.
http://techcrunch.com/2015/02/28/why-greece-should-not-switch-to-bitcoin/?ncid=rss
In some discussions about Greece exiting the euro, it has been suggested that Greece should swap the euro for bitcoin. At first glance, bitcoin may appear to be the cure. But if the euro is the problem, switching to Bitcoin would be like trying to cure a headache with a bullet to the brain.
http://techcrunch.com/2015/02/28/why-greece-should-not-switch-to-bitcoin/?ncid=rss
It would be pretty bullish for Bitcoin if Greece adopted it
February 28, 2015, 01:47:22 PM
Why Greece Should Not Switch To Bitcoin
In some discussions about Greece exiting the euro, it has been suggested that Greece should swap the euro for bitcoin. At first glance, bitcoin may appear to be the cure. But if the euro is the problem, switching to Bitcoin would be like trying to cure a headache with a bullet to the brain.
http://techcrunch.com/2015/02/28/why-greece-should-not-switch-to-bitcoin/?ncid=rss
In some discussions about Greece exiting the euro, it has been suggested that Greece should swap the euro for bitcoin. At first glance, bitcoin may appear to be the cure. But if the euro is the problem, switching to Bitcoin would be like trying to cure a headache with a bullet to the brain.
http://techcrunch.com/2015/02/28/why-greece-should-not-switch-to-bitcoin/?ncid=rss
February 27, 2015, 02:39:03 AM
Max Keiser is addressing it in his program:
Keiser Report: Can Bitcoin save Greece? (E724)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s7UVY5yv7Y
Keiser Report: Can Bitcoin save Greece? (E724)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s7UVY5yv7Y
lol dat troll
February 27, 2015, 01:21:45 AM
Is there a better time for Andreas to visit Greece? {His country of origin, correct me if I am wrong?} They need the proper guidance to get out of this mess.
It's a pity hardware wallets like the Trezor is so expensive... It would be a great tool to help these people. {It will also solve the security concerns... I do not know of any hacking losses with a Trezor}
Companies like Coinbase / BitPay should also aggresively reach out to these people, to bring solutions to the lack of merchants who accepts Bitcoin in Greece.
This is not going to play out very good to the average to poor people in Greece.
It's a pity hardware wallets like the Trezor is so expensive... It would be a great tool to help these people. {It will also solve the security concerns... I do not know of any hacking losses with a Trezor}
Companies like Coinbase / BitPay should also aggresively reach out to these people, to bring solutions to the lack of merchants who accepts Bitcoin in Greece.
This is not going to play out very good to the average to poor people in Greece.
February 26, 2015, 11:01:42 PM
Bitcoin is always on the table as an option. Everyday, week, month that goes on and nothing happens with the debt in the country, the closer they come to defaulting on debt, banks shutting down, and bitcoin becomes an ever increasing option. Finance Minister is fully aware of bitcoin and crypto currency, they have the option to change the world here. The banks are also running out of options.. On the heals of Bank of englands article that came out the other day and the debt deals that keep falling apart, I can imagine Bitcoin is soon going to be on the tip of Yanis Varoufakis's tongue
February 26, 2015, 10:07:49 PM
Max Keiser is addressing it in his program:
Keiser Report: Can Bitcoin save Greece? (E724)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s7UVY5yv7Y
Nothing can save Greece.Keiser Report: Can Bitcoin save Greece? (E724)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s7UVY5yv7Y
They want to consume more than they produce, forever.
There's no way to make that happen anywhere in the world
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