Topic: [Yet another Yobit topic because I'm a hypocrite] Yobit shitposting participants (Read 1617 times)

Locking this before it becomes a shitposting magnet. Huge thanks to all who reported the avalanche of spam, I bet you made a difference and affected theymos' swift action.

Haha. Theymos is more effective than Thanos! Thanos erased half the universe, Theymos wiped whole.

LOL, I thought I broke the site when I started seeing the number of Yobit signatures going down to zero... hallelujah



Sure, give me a few minutes.

Edit: PM sent. Includes users that had "1450 COINS" in their signature at any time, even if they removed it later. May not include users who never posted with the signature.

Maybe, I don't know yet. It might come in handy later.

LoL, I meant what will you do with archived data? Any future use or what?

You've literally quoted the answer to your question:

Just a curiosity question but what will you do with the list?

Can I have your latest list of userIDs? I'd like to archive them all

Well, that ended as quickly as it escalated. IF they'd gone about it in a sensible manner from the start I'm sure it could've been a decent enough campaign. Let that be a lesson to all.

Of course you would, you'd be a prime shitposter unless you were doing it primarily to improve your language skills which 0% of these users are doing. Whether English is your native language or not is completely irrelevant to whether you are a shitposter or not.

I bet if I joined a campaign that only paid for posts in the Russian section, I'd get mocked and ridiculed for it--and I'd deserve it.  People who can't make themselves understood and who have nothing to say shouldn't be posting in the English section. 

Many people don't give a shit about this fact.  If the forum suffers because of it, the parasite is basically killing the host.

That's a big WOW for me, too.  On the other hand, given Yobit's standards I'm not shocked that it happened and happened so quickly.  It is a bit jarring to see so much spam after a respite period the merit system provided. 

I have the Bitcoin/Altcoin Discussion sections on ignore, and that helps.  The Yobit spam brigade has infiltrated Economics, though.  That's a pain in the ass, especially when I'm looking for posts to merit.

I realise that, which is why I said ban the spammers, not ban them all.


Agreed, which is why it rapidly attracted so many spammers. As far as I've seen though, and please CMIIW, there have been no confirmed payments for this campaign yet? As I mentioned, by not having a list of participants they have given themselves an easy "get out clause" - in a week or two they can simply state that these users were never accepted in the first place, and then they don't have to pay.

Just turned the rep of this one to red https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/joshv06-52198

Hacked account, follow the reference.

Sounds like they're swimming in money so funds will never be a problem. It's the willingness to part with them for mindless shite that might count.

And as users are now reporting being paid for previous campaigns then that might incentivise them to stick around for future assaults too. It's not as if 80 or more per cent will ever get into another campaign.

That 20% figure is a shocker.

Eventually the funds of yobit will run out and just like before participants may not get paid for weeks which the reason they'd quit this campaign. It happened before.


Not all of those participants posts 20 a day. I gotta admit the campaign pays well. Other campaigns will soon raise their offers because of this. Think of this as a new competitor of the Mixers who pays good for their participants. Yobit still is in bitcoin business for the longest possible not sure if they find this toxic but looks like is a popular to them.

Dear lord. What is it going to take for some executive action here? Every other post being YoBit spam? 1 in 4 is utterly ridiculous. Everyone I'm sure has noticed the extra spam, and it's becoming increasingly tedious and difficult, near impossible in some sections, to wade through it all to try and hold a logical conversation. Even the threads complaining about the YoBit spam are being spammed by completely oblivious YoBit spammers. Accounts which have been inactive for months suddenly posting 20+/day.

Since they don't have a manager or a list of accepted users, they can quite easily turn around in 2 weeks' time and say "You were never accepted to the campaign, and so you will not be paid" after each account has already made ~300 posts. I'd like to take some small consolation in the fact that many of these spammers will never be paid, but it is everyone else trying to use the forum normal who is paying the price.

Ban the spammers and ban the campaign.

As stated in the OP, it takes up to 24 hours for new participants to show up. Same when someone leaves the campaign. I don't get a notification when someone changed their signature so I have to keep re-checking 400+ user profiles to detect if someone left the campaign, and check ~5000 user profiles each day (every user who makes a post) to detect if someone joined the campaign.

Thanks for pointing out the trust score issue. I was probably logged in with the wrong account. Will fix in the next update.

So only for people who've tampered their trust list. Mine is normal.

Trust score can vary person to person for including/excluding people on/from your trust list.

I'm sorry but I think the script is not working properly. Many members have already left the campaign since yesterday or saturday and there are still in this list.
For example Fortify left the campaign since one or even 2 days now from what I've seen and its trust score is 136.
But we can see him as a participant with a trust score of only 30 in the list...  

If Yobit is the same as they were before they will continue to pay everyone, if management has changed, everything will change and I don't know what to expect, however the fact that they paid me even almost 0.03 BTC I had in the signature wallet from the old signature shows good will. As a matter of fact they are not paying 0.00016 BTC per post but only 0.00005 BTC , at least that is what I get from a post. Shitposting unfortunately is a non curable disease in this forum from what I have seen during my 3 years stay in here.

17600 new posts have been made in the last 24h (total, across the whole forum).
13660 new posts have been made in the last 24h outside of Bounties (Altcoins).

Yobit spam is ~20% of all posts, or ~26% of non-bounty posts.

Another way to look at this: they're creating nearly as much shit as bounty reports but it's spread across the whole forum and pretends to be non-shit. I think this calls for a new Yobit board and banning of Yobit signatures elsewhere


I'm guessing we'll see "scam accusation" threads when shitposters realize they're not gonna get paid.

Their strategy is to bring Yobit buzz on bitcointalk before their new IEO launch which will happen in a day or so so they will make few hundred bitcoins again.Sulrey they will cut most of their participants from this campaign after that IEO launch.

I suspect Yobit will cut a lot of these participants, I don't really see them spending this much on bitcointalk advertising.  Then again they raised a few thousand bitcoins from their recent IEOs so who knows.

My guess is that the total number of participants will reach 700 within 48 hours.

This is somewhat like when Stake Campaign has come into existence, am I right? I doubt that it will also last for more than a month or 2 if they continue on paying like that, especially if that number of participants are accepted.

So, we all have to endure it for the meantime.

Updated the list: 438 participants now.

Zombie attack: more than half of participants (267) didn't post at all during the week prior to the campaign.

Shitposting increase: 256 total posts per day before the campaign vs ~3700 posts in the last 24h (1400%+).

Average earned merit per participant: 11.1 (47% of participants have zero merits).

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I'll do some cleanup later, particularly at the bottom of the list. For example Saint-loup removed the signature and stopped posting. This is skewing the numbers a little bit.

That account has Hero activity, if yobit didn't update their bot for the Merit system, it might actually work.

Either they are getting paid for the bug of yobit or they think they will get the payment or they are just trying to spam.

Sorry for off topic.

Why low ranked members are also wearing the yobit signatures? maianh09

They said only Sr.member and up.

FoBoT Used personal text ★YoBit.Net★ 350+ Coins Exchange instead of ★YoBit.Net★ 1400+ Coins Exchange to hide themselv from auto search but caught.

Archived for future reference.
Many people will try to hide from the auto search by various ways.

It's important to remember that increases in "average daily posts" can happen not solely due to adding the signature. Drama means people will talk more, these threads mean yobit signature wearers will voice their opinions. Any way, I agree: the signature campaign did stir up the settled dust and dormant accounts have 100% come back alive to spam / "post".

I never looked at them like this. Never had problems in last couple of years, I even got bitcoin shit fork from them. To be honest, I have never payed too much attention to their not provably fair dice, shady investment box or hundreds dead shitcoins. I used them only as exchange and I have never had any problems with withdrawals. I always ignored their e-mails about ICO's they hold, but today I decided to actually look at latest ICO/IEO/whatever it is called these days:


100% in 80% out with profit, 20% to yobit. And then I checked their other ICO's and they are nearly the same as this one.

Someone please look at all numbers and model and tell me that this is not ponzi.

Yes I am wearing the sig. Yes my post count is way up. Nope, the 2 have nothing to do with each other.

Stuck working while everyone else is enjoying Passover / Easter vacation. I have spent way too much time on call since Friday, sitting in this and a few other forums bored out of my skull. So yeah, you are going to see a lot more of me this week and probably next. Then back to lurking and 1 or 2 posts a day at most. Look at my post counts from early March last year till mid April. Big burst then too, we were short staffed so I was yet again stuck online with nothing to do and nobody to do it with.

I think the Honda forum is getting really tired of my posting of really bad jokes.

So yeah, big whoop I am making $0.85 a post. I could probably clear more money actually getting some of the stuff I have sitting around here posted on eBay.

As for Yobit being good or bad. I trust them more than poloniex or OKEx and a few others. But, I'm not even going to attempt to change peoples opinion on them. They suck, just like all the other exchanges. I think they suck less then some more then others. You might think otherwise.

-Dave

Many exchanges take payments to list certain coins, and while I don't know the specifics of these types of agreements, it is possible one clause in the agreements state that yobit will continue listing the coin for x time, or "forever".

Exchanges have a vested interest in tracking the type of information necessary to determine if two accounts belong to the same person so they can do things like prevent suspicious withdrawals and block hacking attempts.

Yahoo62278 claims to have been contacted by yobit to manage their campaign, however I somewhat suspect most exchanges have more staff than necessary for ongoing operations. This is based on the declining trading volumes on major exchanges, and the ~95%+ decline in trading volumes from the ATH (measured in USD). I would suspect that yobit has someone on their staff with sufficient time and skills to manage their campaign.

Do you know that everyone is getting paid? From what I can tell payments are being made to participants yobit accounts off the blockchain.

The negative trust rule appears to have been implemented after the campaign started. I suspect most of the data is being retrieved via automation so that management can more easily audit payments and track the efficiency of the campaign. They might not be pulling the data from an account that is logged in. Also they will need to write code (and audit code) before they put it into production.

I can also promise you that anyone who trades above certain thresholds, is active/well known in their chatbox (if they have one), or otherwise has generated a lot of revenue for them (perhaps via referrals) is going to be allowed to participate, regardless of any negative trust.

Just to make it clear... I don't know if it's going to be 700 or 7000. There doesn't seem to be any limit yet. 396 currently and I'm at least a few hours behind.

That's the thing I was talking about yesterday. It is very obvious to happen without a manager.


I counted 36 negative tagged users so far from the list, yet another almost half of the list is coming to make it 700 . These users are just trying to loot as much as they can but they do not realize that at the end they will return empty hand. How they will realize? They can't even read rules... What they are doing in the hope to earn some money is total SPAM DISASTER!


It's not all about English... Yes, English is a factor but it is not 100%. If someone can write little English and if the readers can understand what that guy wanted to say then I think anyone is good to GO. 100% broken grammer should not work here, at least 50-70% must be okay imo. Once I found a post and read 10 times but didn't understand what that guy really saying.

Anyway, the other main factors for SPAM > SHITPOSTING, POST-BURSTING, MEANINGLESS POSTS, POSTING IN DEAD THREADS (maybe I missed more)

Check the post history of these guys dimondimon, mtmitat
Most of the spam posts of these two users already got deleted by mods, if not, I would have shown you a post of mtmitat.

The post was something like this, not accurate, but it's almost the same meaning.

That PPD data is frightening...

I honestly had not been expecting it to be so bad... Apparently I am waaaaaayyyyyy too optimistic regarding the outcome of offering "free money" to anyone with a keyboard.

I feel for the moderators... I have a feeling their workload is about to get ridiculous.

I think Bitcoin would have been just fine... The endless stream of (scam) Shitcoins and ICOs may not have faired so well tho...

I said nothing about English nor do you have some God-given right to post where you have nothing to contribute. Please leave this thread, I don't appreciate you scrounging here.

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Based on the new PPD data, the listed 386 participants prior to the Yobit campaign used to create ~230 posts per day combined. They created ~3600 posts within the last 24 hours. That's a 15-fold increase, or 3000+ extra posts per day. I think it's safe to assume that most of those are shit.

We are not living in European Unions, we can't practice regularly our english. When people try to express themselves with Google Translate or other tools, they are banning or tagging them from Bitcointalk. How can we write like other members? Just because people don't speak a fluent English doesn't mean that they shouldn't be posting their opinion in this forum. Bitcoin wouldn't be so well known all over the world if there were no bounty hunters.


YoBit more helpful than you for this community, I’m leaving from your shit thread.

Why can't I be interested in a campaign that hires 400 users in a couple of days and resurrects dozens if not hundreds of shitposting accounts?

If you're not a shitposter you have nothing to worry about. This is a thread to help identify participants so that they could be investigated and reported to moderators when applicable. Blame Yobit for the disaster they're creating.

Erm, the evidence is yelling at you in the face at the top of this thread.

I'm sure you're a wonderful addition the forum but most of the posters are not. Almost every post I've seen with that signature is meaningless junk by long dead accounts with no merit. Any other established campaign would boot them immediately, not that they could've gotten in anyway.

Let's give it a week or so to settle down and see if they do anything but so far the campaign deserves all of the derision it's getting.

Why are you interesting only supporters of YoBit signature campaign? You're acting like a child, there are a lot of fucking signature campaigns but you are only interesting with YoBit. YoBit is ten times more reliable than people like you. You call people a shitposter because their mother tongue isn't in English, no one doesn't have to speak perfect English. Many people who don't have enough incomes can earn BTC thanks to bounty campaigns. If you don't want to see post of signatures, tell Theymos, Cyrus or BadBear to ban signature campaigns. Stake.com's signature campaign has no limit to sending a message to the forum but you are only interesting with Yobit! Yes, you are hypocrite.

Today Yobit posted this (I'm not sure that's their official account):
I hope it's not just a words and they will start acting soon. Unlimited number of participants (over 350 in just few days), no merit requirements, everyone can join as long as he have at least Sr. Member account even with red trust and make up to 20 posts per day - it's terrible combination. Probably this campaign produce more spam than most of bounties in the end of 2017 - start of 2018.

Are they wearing the signature? I don't filter by anything other than the signature.


I have updated the list. Check the description of the "PPD" columns in the OP. You can see that the vast majority of participants increased their posting significantly and there are many who didn't post at all prior to the campaign.

This is enough, most of the accounts will be filtered out on this way.

Personally, I can't wait for the avalanche of "yobit is teh scammz!!!!1!!!" threads when participants get (silently) removed by the "very conscientious Yobit campaign management" for spamming/shitposting/alt abusing etc and they don't get paid their 0.00012000 btc per post.


In other news... @suchmoon, Does your list filter for forum rank? I think I spotted a couple of "member" accounts... And I thought the campaign was limited to ≥Sr. member?

I think what I'll do is calculate average daily posts for 7 days prior to April 19, which I believe is when the campaign started. Dormant accounts would have zero or close to zero posts. I can't easily find how long they've been dormant but this should give you something to look into.

I haven't look at them deeply but I saw yesterday few accounts senior+ with no message in over 6 months start posting with this signature to cap or getting closer to the signature's cap post.

LOL, yeah I missed my chance to make twenty bucks...

Well, if I ever decide to wear a paid sig it won't be Yobit for sure. It looks like a ponzi pretending to be an exchange and that's based on my experience with them from a couple of years ago... looks like they went in even deeper since then, IEO and other nonsense.


Unfortunately I have no easy way of doing that. I don't even know when exactly they started wearing a specific signature although in this case we can assume it's been within the last couple of days. I'll see what I can do but it doesn't look promising so far.

Well.. If they can't even weed out people with negative trust.... I'm not either. (They're currently just getting paid.) I guess that shows how competent their development team/community manager really is.

As detecting whether or not someone has negative trust is a piece of cake to do manually, and probably even easier if you simply automically scrape each participant...?

Everyone who has used the internet before should be able to do a simple task like blacklisting people who currently have negative trust from participating. There's really no excuse to this laziness from yobit.

@suchmoon I ask here too, maybe you lost my message on the other thread.

Can you also post the habit on weeks before of those accounts? It will speed up the process to find potential alts <3

They are growing too fast 350 participant in one day... I received email from yobit yesterday that they are now accepting new participant so I think there are many alts woke up just today and join in yobit campaign.  They should prevent/remove alt accounts from joining/accepting to their campaign as I'm sure there are many alt accounts joined and coming soon and I believe that it may lead to spam very soon.

 
I currently have some shitcoins out there from 2016 and until now the coin still stuck on withdrawal maybe they don't have a plan to remove it so that other people may fall to buy it and scam.  

Yobit team is too lazy they want to automate everything. Let's hope that they can hire a campaign manager or much better they reduce the daily post count to 3 or 5 daily might be enough.

     Quite frankly, I'm not confident that Yobit's technical team is going to keep on top of it. There is a reason they have over 1400+ coins listed. They fail to delist shitcoins that are long dead with no chance of revival.   I just hope that they can install a decent campaign manager, quick, who can spoonfeed them exactly which accounts get the banhammer.

I'd say they're just trying to act like they care about these things by posting that until proven otherwise so that they can run the campaign for a week or two and they probably thinking the sensitivity all over the forum about this issue will be decreased by then and they can continue for a good long time (if we assume that's an actual yobit support posted that), red trusted users and multi accounts probably wouldn't be accepted either right now or soon since these exchanges tend to care a lot about their reputation specially when they don't have much reputation left to begin with like Yobit, but I really don't think the spam issue will be resolved much if any at all, you're practically calling for spams when you make 20 posts a day limit and you pay for that amount of posts.

And at last if this campaign is going to stay here and continue advertising considering many scam accusations against them here I'm just wondering how many more people will fall for their traps and used their exchange and how many more scam accusation thread will be opened soon about them here, and more importantly is it a good look for this forum having the banner of a known scammy exchange all over the pages ?, I mean they don't even have a limit for maximum number of participants they accept.

You can create multiple Yobit accounts trivially (I presume), however this does not mean Yobit does not know when you have two accounts. They can look at your IP address, and browser fingerprint (including cookies they leave in your browser) to detect if you have multiple accounts, and the identities of the multiple accounts.

You generally have to know what you are doing to truly appear to only have one account when you have two. Based on the quality of posts being made by several people within the yobit campaign, I am going to assume they don't have the required knowledge to do this.

Yobit only allows a person to register one user id per account. However, Yobit has close to zero KYC requirements. There is little stopping someone from have a different yobit account for each account here. Let's hope the worst spammers are not too bright and take the addtional steps needed to avoid detection.

It is fairly easy for Yobit to detect multi accounts in their campaign because they need to sign up via their yobit account.

Obviously this is all their words and until it is clear these people are not getting paid, it will be difficult to verify.

I would anticipate the negative trust rule will not be enforced if their participants start getting negative trust in masse 

Wondering why OP missing Yobit campaign since you made 22 post within past 24 hours  

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Although they warn participants but I don't think it will helpful to prevent spam without hire well reputed managers.

There are 364 participants now. I'll update the list perhaps when it gets to 400. So the average has gone down to 11.7. Very quality wow spam.


Yeah that's basically a cop out. They don't seem to be committed to quality.


Let me try to incorporate the links myself when I do the next refresh. I think the only stuff that my list is missing compared to yours is BPIP, trust, and earned merit links.

Do you want my style lists? Like https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50703104
If so, a list of userIDs is easiest.

    Although most of this seems to be good news, I'm not certain if I like the idea of being subjected to 3-4 lines of utter nonsense over a slew of insubstantial posts.

Lol, that thread was off the rails from the OP.

Thanks for the list, I had asked LoyceV if he could provide an average earned merit of the participants of the campaign, your list makes it easy to calculate.  The 351 participants so far average 12.1 earned merit each.  That's actually more than I would have guessed, but there are 169 participants, almost half with 0 earned merit.  

According to the post above yours - there's hope. I'd love to see all those scammers not getting paid for wasting their time. Hopefully their shitposts will get cleaned up too. I went through some post histories yesterday and bookmarked a few for reporting, but today some of the most egregious garbage has already been removed so apparently some users are doing a pretty good job reporting it to moderators. Keep it up!

I thought they were strictly against accepting negative trust participants for default trust. But there are many participants as we can see in the above list. Don't know if they would be paid or not ?

Finally there is some update from yobit (not sure they are official support team)


So hopefully most of the spammers and abusers will be removed.

This is quite the disaster.

Reserved up to about 700 participants because why not.

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I said this in response to another user who started a Yobit topic:


So obviously I'm gonna go ahead and create one myself

My excuse is that the list of participants that I was posting in actmyname's thread has grown to 350 438 (!!!) and doesn't fit into one post anymore so to avoid derailing that thread - here it is.

These are users who have "1450 COINS" in their signature (i.e. likely a Yobit signature) and have posted recently. It's not 100% complete because I may have missed some posts or not retrieved some user profiles yet. It may take up to 24 hours for new participants to show up.

"Before" is the average number of posts per day between April 12 - 18 (before the start of the Yobit campaign) and "now" is the number of posts in the last 24 hours. "AvgLen" is the average number of characters per post, excluding quotes, in the last 24 hours. "Merit" is the total amount of earned merit.

Big thanks to Vod and LoyceV for their respective resources.

List removed due to theymos trashcanning the whole campaign.