Topic: YoMix, a fake bitcoin mixer (potential honeypot scam) (Read 317 times)

Obviously, this is why you are really angry.
since you have enough experience to discover all these weak points in YoMix mixer. Why did you use the mixer? Why didn't you discover all these flaws before using the service? If your transaction had not been stuck for two days, would you have written this topic?

Of course, you have the right to demand a solution to your problem and demand compensation if you do not receive your transaction, but it is appropriate for you to attack the service and distort their reputation just because your transaction is stuck.

A stunning clarification, but we perfectly see the difference in nicknames, and we were not mistaken when we addressed this problem to the OP.
This is the same person, or a person’s friend with the wrong destination address problem.
Firstly, they flooded our ticket system with RBF question (they asked to RBF low-fee transaction with different address), then, in the same hour, after got rejected, they began to write on the forum. But in general it even doesn't matter.

Specifically in this topic, we see nothing but baseless accusations. The whole text is from the category: “There is nothing complicated to hack google, even the child knows this,” but of course this is complete nonsense.
So much words like scam/honeypot/fake/etc (even in thread title) makes us think this topic especially created for search engines, it's obvious .
As for low mining fees we've answered in service announcement thread. In short: we're ready to help and accelerate transaction with partners mining pool, but not RBF it. OP asked to RBF with changed destination address.
We remind that we're traditional mixer, and, if you're tracking your input address and see money gone to exchange it means other client wanted them to be there (same for receiving coins, if client sent them from kyc exchange to us), it doesn't mean we use exchange addresses  . And we don't reuse addresses as we said above, it's insecure and we never did it.
When OP provides more information (if ever) we'll return back with answer personally to him, but for now good luck everyone and stay safe .

It seems you are unable to follow up with responses in your own thread. The "scammer address as destination" issue doesn't even belong to OP as they have absolutely different issue related to a stuck transaction due to a low fee set by your service.

The "scammer address as destination" issue you are trying to assign to Russtie Beerkan actually belongs to another user named brace the mace with the original reply here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62977921

The original issue raised by OP (Russtie Beerkan) belongs here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62978113

Are you able to recognize the difference in the usernames across the posts in your thread?
I am not trying to defend the OP since they haven't provided any evidence yet, however, it's obvious that you are being unfair with your responses and your counter-accusations make me doubt about your competence and ability to run a mixer properly.


By checking them on Arkham Explorer, for example, or any other AML/Chain intelligence provider as there are plenty.

So much fake information in one thread, awesome.
If ppl in this thread don't know why OP so angry, that's why: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62987027
If you set scammer address as destination one in our service it's not problem of our service, we fully completed everything you expected us to do (provided LoG, received coins, mixed them, sent to the address you set).
We don't change orders and don't broadcast RBF transactions.

And yes, we have nothing to deal with kraken/etc, and we don't reuse our addresses obviously, it's easy to track for any experienced person (except OP, sadly he's experienced only in posting fake information).
Walletexplorer URL also makes no sense at all, good you found 3 of kraken (or not, idk, anyway not belongs to us) addresses, but, and what?

GL everyone, if someone still wants we can continue discussion in our service thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-banned-mixer-best-bitcoin-mixer-low-fees-fully-automated-5432724
Stay safe

That's a bold accusation bro, how do you know the addresses they are using belong to Kraken? Where have you seen that? It would be weird for a mixing service to use custodial address from an exchange. If you have been able to see addresses belonging to Kraken using this service, how do you know it's not addresses from users who sent their funds right from the exchange or right to the exchange after mixing them? In addition it would be disappointing if Kraken was collaborating with FED by their own free will.

You need to consider all mixing services as honeypot/ surveilled by the capitalists and their cabal.
Once you regard them all as honeypot, you will move forward to the next level of questioning, which is :

Which one of the mixers provide a unique way of mixing that even if they were a honeypot, there would be no trace between you and your coins.
I mean, isn't this exactly what Bitcoin did? Using a unique method to eliminate "trust", so when we are talking about mixers, you have to think about that. Otherwise you can't really trust any of them by default. We all saw what happened with chipmonkey, they kept everything on a drive.

OP explained a little more his problem here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62978113

If OP show its initial TX and its final TX, i can so some analisis over it.

Maybe he need to do some analysis on https://kycp.org/#/ but i can do some script to follow all the TX.

More than one mixing service was seized by law enforcement agencies in both the United States and the European Union. However, no retroactive decisions were made. Some users even deposited Bitcoin obtained from signature campaigns or used those mixers without the account being suspended.

The arguments you cited are weak, and I noticed that since you logged in here you attacked that service, even though you have not published since 2018. Can you sign a message from this address 13sFVaYNrnguJywMQkQB2ypVCwHSH2s7mt

The same could have been said about ChipMixer, even more since their chips were all known on-chain, but yet they became the number 1 mixer. Also, knowing you used a mixer =/= making mixing useless. Even if you say I used a mixer, what do I care if you can't connect the output with the input (pre-mix)?

Easily solvable with CPFP anyways.

Vagueness = nonsense as far as I know, so this point can just be completely disregarded.

Scrambling coins, getting new "brand new" coins through exchanges = directly connected to the exchange = FED connected? Also nonsense.

Note: I have never used YoMix and have never joined their signature campaign, talked with them, etc... your points just aren't that strong, IMO.

Interesting! Can anyone confirm this, and also about the kraken? I don't think anyone yet knows about this besides yours, can you give more supporting information.

Yomix is a bit unique because of their feature of sending random amount of transaction and using multiple of address, but if the wallet explorer is correct then this feature is quite useless.

This is nonsense, most or even all existing bitcoin mixers uses the same dynamic fee options, yomix don't differ from the other mixers.

With all of you mentioned the walletexplorer is the most concerning.

I think you might be referring to Yobit exchange. I am not sure if they are related, would be interesting if they are related because there are a lot of members promoting yomix currently.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/end-yomix-bitcoin-mixer-signature-campaign-reward-up-to-200w-5434037

What are you saying dear, yomix is not a exchange I think you are confused here, as Yomix is a BTC mixer, which obfuscate transactions. I hope the yomix you are talking about is something else. For your convenience, Yomix is a BTC mixer, you can visit it, either by clicking the Sig below this post I am wearing or by visiting there ANN https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-banned-mixer-best-bitcoin-mixer-low-fees-fully-automated-5432724

I am just trying to clear this confusion of exchange, shitcoin, profit, loss, mining, ASIC idk (I don't know) what else you have just shed light on.

And I have no comment for the OP right now. Maybe later I will share my opinion for you.

I believe the [banned mixer] mixer is either a fake mixer or potentially even a scam.

From examining transactions from their service it's easy to spot that their bitcoin configuration always sets bitcoin transaction fees below the network minimum. This is a very serious problem for a bitcoin mixer service as it creates two very serious issues:

A. Drastically reduced anonimity. With a simple filter of transactions anyone with half a brain could identify transactions coming from YoMix.
While their mixer is new, bitcoin transactions are forever. In short notice, mainstream services will see all their transactions and potentially even block you retroactively if you had ever touched coins related to YoMix.

B. Reduced functionality. Setting fees wrong can result to your transaction getting stock for an indefinite amount of time. This uncertainty of course makes any transaction passing through YoMix pointless as it's uncertain if it will ever arrive to its intended final destination. This should have been the most basic functionality to program when creating a bitcoin mixer, but it just shows that yomix developers were really inexperienced in programming bitcoin.

Moreover, YoMix is a bad mixer overall. Out of respect for what migh have been victims, I'll be deribelately vague with this just so whoever had sensitive transactions "mixed" by YoMix can have time to re-organize and disengage his finances from this ordeal (I'd personally recomend using just monero this time).

But it all boils down to YoMix basically reuisng the same addresses over and over. This is a very bad practice for a mixer.
This leads to situations where it's very easy for even a basic block explorer to group their addresses. For instance, here's a main family of addresses YoMix uses on walletexplorer:
https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/2584d8142e542ff5

Another thing that's very suspicious about YoMix's funding is the high proximity it has with Kraken.com. It's obvious that from every "mixing" transactions many of the feeding addresses are directly funded from Kraken. This normally would be a very bad practice and is something no real mixer does. This is actually evidence that YoMix might actually be a FED honey pot.

Because of course a honeypot mixer would only have the purpose of de-anonymizing users instead of providing actual mixing services. Therefore the ones running it would look to get coins as fast and easy as possible and wouldn't mind withdrawing from an exchange account with full KYC.

Anyway, I'd just recommend stepping away from YoMix and trying another way to hide your funds before it's too late. If you find that it's a honeypot via twitter or better yet through a sealed indictment it's already too late.