You all fooled and they use narrative to fool you and take your money

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Quote from: Shortmaster on October 08, 2024, 08:35:39 AM

it's narrative what's fooling you and make you win or lose.
They create for you narrative with narrative they create business and with that business they take your money
They want your money while you think you gona win you will lose.
For example now there is war In middle east many oil long contract buyers bought "oil longs"- they bet on oil long but then war will be over oil drops and they lose.
Not just the oil but many other narratives to fool you to take your money.

The example you used with the middle east is totally a wrong one giving the narrative you want to assert, the business of oil and gas is always on a long term contract basis, however if there is war ongoing within the middle east, the ripple effect will either increase or decrease on the price of oil in the international market. Also there has never been any foolery for those that invest in the oil market, ever since it's Discovery the oil and gas business is one of the most lucrative despise that is capital intensive, your narrative can suit in for other things but definitely not in the oil sector.

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Quote from: Shortmaster on October 08, 2024, 08:35:39 AM

it's narrative what's fooling you and make you win or lose.
They create for you narrative with narrative they create business and with that business they take your money
They want your money while you think you gona win you will lose.
For example now there is war In middle east many oil long contract buyers bought "oil longs"- they bet on oil long but then war will be over oil drops and they lose.
Not just the oil but many other narratives to fool you to take your money.

Your example has nothing to do with your theory about "creating narratives and taking your money".
The global oil market is impacted by the situation in the middle east and most oil traders are betting on whether the price is going up or down.
What's wrong with such behavior? Every market can be affected by certain events and conditions. I'm not buying oil or oil derivatives, so nobody is going to "take my money". Are you trying to make a conspiracy theory, where "they", "the powers that be", "the status quo", "the deep state" or the illuminati-reptiles and controlling everything that happens around the world and taking the money of innocent people by "creating narratives"? I'm sorry, but the reptiles already have control over the money printing machine. They don't need my money or your money. Grin

The situation in the middle east isn't a "narrative". Real people are dying.

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So anyway, I applied as a merit source :)

Someone things oil will go up and buys oil longs, and someone things they wont and does not buy them - so what? Its a personal choice whether to invest in something or not based on what the present situation is. That what we all do, be it stocks, bonds, bitcoin, our own education and jobs and so on.

Either of the above two might be right, thing is we dont have a crystal ball to predict what might happen. Did anyone predict a pandemic to happen? Actually some idiots kept on saying it might happen and one fine day it happened.

Even if the war ends nobody knows what position oil will be in and people are putting their bets on it. Most of them have side bets to cover losses, mind you.

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While OP raise a good point that the conflict in the Middle East has actually begun to influence the oil markets. Also, we can take advantage of that to go long on oil, especially after supply disruptions from Iran, exporting millions of barrels a day. If the conflict escalates, oil prices could surge to as high as $200 a barrel. There is, however, a downside risk too, if the tensions ease or OPEC+ increases production, prices could fall and lead to losses among some investors. This sets up a balancing act, meanwhile, with other factors such as the slowing economy in China putting downward pressure on oil demand. That's why, I think it is not all about being fooled with a narrative, the full picture is to be considered, with risks on both sides. It is tough to time the market, which often plays a huge role in people's winning or losing.

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Quote from: Shortmaster on October 08, 2024, 08:35:39 AM

it's narrative what's fooling you and make you win or lose.
They create for you narrative with narrative they create business and with that business they take your money
They want your money while you think you gona win you will lose.
For example now there is war In middle east many oil long contract buyers bought "oil longs"- they bet on oil long but then war will be over oil drops and they lose.
Not just the oil but many other narratives to fool you to take your money.

This remind for small players that anything excessive may cost bad to them, that's why when in terms of investment people should avoid putting to much greed on everything they do and think about if they carry out to much supply since for sure there's many things to happen that what you have mentioned that can affect your investment which may result to money loss. Its important to know some risk and don't let your emotion eats you since losses would provably occur especially if you cannot control some things or happenings anymore.

But for old time investors in the market for sure they know how to handle this situation and could able to cope up with certain events, then provably could recover when there's loss occur due to unforeseen circumstances.

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Market swings with retail buyers being on the wrong side are not a new thing. You haven’t uncovered anything here buddy. As always do your research & don’t use too much leverage if you can’t afford it.

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Quote from: Shortmaster on October 08, 2024, 08:35:39 AM

For example now there is war In middle east many oil long contract buyers bought "oil longs"- they bet on oil long but then war will be over oil drops and they lose.

Both parts of this sentence are wrong.
In the second part you are just describing any market, people speculate and make a move to try and make a profit. That's not a narrative, there is no fooling going on and nobody is taking anybody's money. It is a market dynamic.

In the first part, there is no war in ~~middle east~~ West Asia. There is only a US backed genocide taking place in Gaza and despite being appalling but it is not affecting the energy market because Gaza is a tiny percentage of West Asia and it is not close to energy rich regions, nor is any energy infrastructure under any danger.
Additionally if war were to actually break out in the region, oil price would shoot up to $200 in matter of hours and will continue rising as the entire energy infrastructure of all countries in the region would be destroyed (any country that has a US base in it). The consequences of it is a Financial Armageddon the likes of which has never been seen. In such a situation, people won't even have time to buy "oil longs" or move their money in and out of any markets.

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Quote from: Shortmaster on October 08, 2024, 08:35:39 AM

For example now there is war In middle east many oil long contract buyers bought "oil longs"- they bet on oil long but then war will be over oil drops and they lose.
Not just the oil but many other narratives to fool you to take your money.

With all this knowledge, you must be a billionaire by now, that’s truly great! Isn’t it.

Well, what’s there to understand that, it’s a tough world out there and you’re always going to find someone who would sell you something. It could be commodities or an idea. Either one it is, it could either make you or take from you and that’s business. Your either going to profit or loss. If your more focused on the profit, then your most likely going to loss and that’s the way it is. You need to do proper research and make clear deductions to be ahead of the times, projecting into the future.

Don’t play yourself, those in the above business have got enough resources to finance researches into what could disrupt or affect the business in years coming.

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Quote from: Shortmaster on October 08, 2024, 08:35:39 AM

it's narrative what's fooling you and make you win or lose.
They create for you narrative with narrative they create business and with that business they take your money
They want your money while you think you gona win you will lose.
For example now there is war In middle east many oil long contract buyers bought "oil longs"- they bet on oil long but then war will be over oil drops and they lose.
Not just the oil but many other narratives to fool you to take your money.

Yes , I agree. Most of big countries want to store resources which can end in future. So big countries are preparing for the hard time but I could be tough time for oil holders because all things of World are Working on oil and gas and one day that will end and we have to change our way of living.USA and Russia and Europe countries want to attack on the countries which has these resources and they are also thinking to make agreement to them. If War will be happen then there will be more distruction but behind every War there is a reason and that is resources. USA want to hold on the most of countries and it can do everything for that and they want to show they are powerful.

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it's narrative what's fooling you and make you win or lose.
They create for you narrative with narrative they create business and with that business they take your money
They want your money while you think you gona win you will lose.
For example now there is war In middle east many oil long contract buyers bought "oil longs"- they bet on oil long but then war will be over oil drops and they lose.
Not just the oil but many other narratives to fool you to take your money.

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