Topic: Your college degree means that you are not educated. (Read 298 times)

So I got called a nazi because I do not want to generalize universities? This thread is really something else, isn't it?
OP, you are talking about universities with bio-laboratories and such.

What about engineering universities which only teach how to build machines and do not have a laboratory? Are those also evil and turn all their students into nazis who hate you? 

af_newbie-Your comments are incredibly asinine and disrespectful. All I wanted was for academic institutions to f***ing apologize or acknowledge that there is a problem, and I will not accept anything less than this. Now people like you respond with immense hatred because they do not want to admit that their education is sub-standard.

"Are you experiencing some sort of mental stupor?"-Go **** **** ****** ** *** ***.

"I just hope the authorities are monitoring your movements before you hurt others and yourself."-Again. Go **** **** ****** ** *** ***.

"Anyway, this conversation is over. I entertained this conversation for far too long."-Good riddance.

"PS. Sweety, you think you are explaining yourself, but you're really not."-Or maybe you lack the intelligence to understand anything about anything. And don't call me sweety, b****.

Oh boy, you are obviously a very unstable person. Are you autistic?
Stop repeating "cryptographic timestamps->violence->me". Are you experiencing some sort of mental stupor?

I just hope the authorities are monitoring your movements before you hurt others and yourself.

Anyway, this conversation is over. I entertained this conversation for far too long.

PS. Sweety, you think you are explaining yourself, but you're really not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIVcq5LJ0Zs

"You are conflating security with violence."-This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. I have been calling out the lack of security at BSL-4 labs. But you are unable to understand anything that I have been saying.

"They probably have immutable access logs, so relax, and stop being such a paranoid Luddite."-Do you have evidence of this claim? The only evidence I will accept is cryptographic timestamps on blockchains. And yes, these timestamps need to be publicly available. Anything less than this is a lack of security.

"BTW, some technologies are dangerous, and usually, access to them is classified or severely limited to the public."-You clearly have no clue what I am talking about because you lack education. Please get an education.

"If you must know, I went to Waterloo. So, how does Waterloo promote violence against YOU?"-And why the f*** did you ever think I am more familiar with MIT than with Waterloo? I am familiar with mathematicians and computer scientists from the University of Waterloo who have done work in quantum information theory and universal algebra. A dips*** like you went to the University of Waterloo, and that should be taken as evidence that the University of Waterloo turns dips***s into f***ing dips***s, so the University of Waterloo probably also promotes violence against me too. And the University of Waterloo has not condemned the promotion of violence against me, so I must consider all graduates from that institution to be f***ing dips***s.

"Research and progress are good in the long term."-And if we replace universities with something better such as universities that did not f***ing promote violence, or if we simply let the corporations and government facilities do all the research and career training, we would have much better research and career training.

"If you are planning something violent, don't. Get help."-Shut the f*** up you bloody @$$ Nazi. I am the one here condemning violence. You cannot understand this because you are an exceptionally evil person who has absolutely no place in modern society.

"Are you the guy who wrote the paper on "Representations of algebras in varieties generated by infinite primal algebras"?"-Yes. I wrote that paper. I have been doing research for Circcash that one can find at circcashcore.com. After all, creating cryptographic algorithms does require research. We need to compute statistics about the cryptographic security of cryptographic algorithms. Do you seriously believe that we can or should create cryptographic algorithms without doing any research at all? And I needed to create new pure mathematics for Circcash's mining algorithm because I did not find any old mathematics that I was satisfied with to investigate Circcash's security.

"Also, try to be less condescending and angry."-I will always be condescending to uneducated people with degrees from universities because those universities will always promote violence and never apologize for promoting violence.

"There is not much I can say about colleges in the US but I have never experienced physical or emotional violence at a european university. But then again we have real courses and students dedicated to studying instead of collectively screaming for professors to get fired for misgendering some multicolored half-baked "intellectual"."-Then maybe European universities should say something like 'We do not recognize the education from universities from the USA with the exception of these departments from these institutions. Universities from the USA lack the professionalism required in higher education'.

"There is not much I can say about colleges in the US but I have never experienced physical or emotional violence at a european university."-I do not f***ing believe this at all. I need proof. European universities need to distance themselves from American universities a lot more for me to believe this.

"I understand your frustration that most people cannot comprehend higher mathematics or your "Circcash" cryptocurrency, but instead of lashing out and showing your potential investors how temperamental and childish you are, you should perhaps find another way to market to a lesser educated audience."-And then everyone invests in "FTX". F***ing s***. That just shows how f***ed up cryptocurrency investors are. What a f***ing disgrace! And no, people who post Nazi images on Discord servers are not Circcash investors. They are evil chlurmcks who have no place in decent society. And it is incredibly disrespectful to put Circcash in quotes. It is called Circcash and not "Circcash" nor is it ¢1я¢¢@$h nor is it called chlurmck-cash.

^^^ Congratulations on your college/university degree. It's working. We can all see.

You are conflating security with violence.

BTW, I did not go to MIT. Since you are from the US, I picked a university you might be familiar with so that it would be easier
for you to construct your argument. But obviously, I failed.

If you must know, I went to Waterloo. So, how does Waterloo promote violence against YOU?

BTW, some technologies are dangerous, and usually, access to them is classified or severely limited to the public.

They probably have immutable access logs, so relax, and stop being such a paranoid Luddite.

Research and progress are good in the long term. Why are you even talking about violence?
Calm down, and back up the truck.

If you are planning something violent, don't. Get help.

AF_newbie. I hope you know that none of the universities with bio-safety level 4 labs post cryptographic timestamps on blockchains. If MIT had a BSL-4 lab, it would not post cryptographic timestamps on blockchains either. I therefore consider all universities to be a threat of violence. The only reason why MIT does not post cryptographic timestamps of everything that goes on in its BSL-4 lab is because MIT does not have a BSL-4 lab. MIT would love to be as careless as Boston University, but MIT just does not have the right facility. Did you even go to MIT? If you did not, then don't talk about that institution. Universities promote violence by refusing to take the required steps so that people can investigate them in case there is an accident.

Are you the guy who wrote the paper on "Representations of algebras in varieties generated by infinite primal algebras"?

There is not much I can say about colleges in the US but I have never experienced physical or emotional violence at a european university. But then again we have real courses and students dedicated to studying instead of collectively screaming for professors to get fired for misgendering some multicolored half-baked "intellectual".

You seem to have given up on research in 2014 after 5 published papers.... I understand your frustration that most people cannot comprehend higher mathematics or your "Circcash" cryptocurrency, but instead of lashing out and showing your potential investors how temperamental and childish you are, you should perhaps find another way to market to a lesser educated audience.

Also, try to be less condescending and angry.

This is the best you can do? "geographic proximity"?

Do you even hear yourself?

If we follow your logic to its conclusion, we would have to arrest everyone because we all are guilty of "geographic proximity".

Put down Kaczynski's manifesto, take your medication, and relax.

BTW, nobody cares about YOU. And nobody is targeting YOU. You are irrelevant. Realize that. You are not that important. Nobody is.

Without universities we would still be wiping our asses with leaves, sitting cold and hungry in caves, hoping for the Sun God to 'give us'
warmth and rain.

PPS. Contribute to society if you can, if you cannot, shut your pie hole, get a meaningless job, and continue your meaningless life.
See a good psychiatrist because you are a narcissist and at best, you are suffering from mild delusions. You suffered some sort
of breakdown and you need help.

The only way you get wisdom from education is after your experience shows you that your education was wrong.

Do you know what is education education is something that will give you wisdom and after then then you have to use it to solve a problem so he degree is something that everybody will get but everybody cannot get a wisdom to solve a problem that is why I want you to understand it that is there is two different things there which is involved in education

Your college "degree" really means how hot you get when you get high in the dorm.

"OP, you only mentioned that institutions promoted violence against you, but you never mentioned what happened in that circle. One cannot simply believe your claim, or should I say false claim, against the institutions that helped you become the professor that you are today."-If you immediately claim that what I am saying is false, then I have nothing to say to you other than you are a worthless rotten fruit and a Nazi. I am not going to spill any details directly to you because you seem to be a very violent person who I really do not want to interact with. You are garbage.

"Because you have a problem with the institution, you cannot generalize it and make us all feel the same way you do about it."-Sorry. I do not respect you at all because you are calling me a liar. And the reason you are calling me a liar is because you are a bloodthirsty chlurmck.

Ebede-Please improve your English.

It is only in some of the African countries that does not regard certificates of higher institution but in some countries that is civilized before he will finish all graduate from university level there will be a work waiting for you or a job waiting for you but it is the system of some African countries regardless of gadgets that makes some people thinking of going to universities or studying to become a master's degree holder is invalid to the society

OP, you only mentioned that institutions promoted violence against you, but you never mentioned what happened in that circle. One cannot simply believe your claim, or should I say false claim, against the institutions that helped you become the professor that you are today.


Because you have a problem with the institution, you cannot generalize it and make us all feel the same way you do about it. Everyone has the right to express their feelings or reactions to certain notions in this life. If you have a problem with an institution, solve it at your own discretion.

The universities themselves don't. They just harbor an ideology that could lead to violence. It's not as if these institutions are what they once were. No longer do they promote freedom of speech. They manufacture oppression at every turn and will accuse those who dissent as having character flaws instead of attacking arguments. Of course it's easier to attack character opposed to the actual arguments.

"You sound self-centered from your own perspective why colleges are not educational institutions."-And you sound like a hateful violence promoter who just wants to discount what I have to say. There is nothing wrong with me for standing up for my own safety, and if you hate me for standing up for my own safety, then you are just a violent chlurmck who needs to be locked up. And since universities promote violence against me, they most likely promote violence against other people as well because universities are evil places.

You sound self-centered from your own perspective why colleges are not educational institutions. From my own view, anybody that wants to go to the university must pass through college, which is the secondary education before tertiary education, just like you did. So I don't see anything bad if you went to college and can't afford to go the university.

It is not everybody that must go to the university but it is compulsory that everyone must go to college. All fingers are not equal,what matters most is that you are a professional in one field or the other to add impact in the society. Everybody is equal irrespective of their educational background. Any college graduate is educated,uneducated people are referred to as illiterates.

The confidence in the idea that you are well educated is what a university degree imparts. It doesn't mean that youARE well educated, or that the university taught real knowledge.

Consider all those doctors who followed university training by sticking people on ventilators for Covid, and killed them that way.

Yes, I understand his point.

The product that comes from the universities and colleges are diverse. They may have their own ways of teaching and they're enforcing it while the students are staying on the school.

But once they come out, it really changes. The differences are the only thing that we can see from each individual and being educated is subjective on how people believes on how it should be.

That's why I've said that it's not just all about those academic stuff and certificates.

I share same belief with you, don't use your personal experience to general. Every institute in the world had its policy and management issues.  School it's self is a process and a continuous programme it doesn't have an end. Even if you read to the level of a professor you still can know all, if someone stop at first degree and he /she can't afford to proceed forward doesn't make them a failure.
Violence has been part of the society, and the university is a Micro part of the society. The university is not a building but the people in it.

Ok, I'll bite.

How do universities promote violence?

and more specifically how is the EECS program at MIT promoting violence?

Be specific. Which part of this program promotes violence?

I am not talking to you because you are a Nazi.

"Huh, I don't want to be rude or anything but all this situation you are describing sounds like a personal problem you are having with a specific institution which may done something wrong to you.

Only because you had a bad experience in a university does not mean the concept of higher education is a wrong one and we should not generalize all of them because of one. We need more education and apply it to the problems of the society."-Then why the fuck would these institutions be unable to even recognize that there is something wrong? This is because these institutions promote the violence because they are filled with the most bloodthirsty of chlurmcks. The only reason why you do not see their inability to apologize or recognize wrongdoing as a problem is that you yourself are a worthless bloodthirsty chlurcmklet who has absolutely no value to society.

"Generalizations are almost always wrong.

If you have a degree from a top-tier university (in a civilized, non-corrupted country) and you graduated with a 4.0 GPA,
it is pretty much guaranteed that you are well-educated."

-And this 'education' means nothing except for indoctrination and Nazism as long as these institutions refuse to acknowledge that there is a problem. What about people from a second tier university? Are they uneducated then? Are you saying that only a few people who ever went to a university are educated? If you are, then you are essentially proving my point. If anyone has been educated from a university, it would be me instead of any of you chlurcmklets who I cannot even have a conversation with.

"Do you need a university degree to be well-educated? Almost always the answer is yes."-You are wrong because universities fucking promote violence and refuse to apologize. If you have a degree, then I will only believe that you are uneducated unless you demonstrate otherwise. And this demonstration begins by taking that stupid ass degree and setting it on fire because universities fucking promote violence.

"It's all about being a slave to the system long enough so that the system thinks you will tell others that the system is good."-This is almost as torturous as drinking a liter of gasoline and then lighting one's farts on fire when the gasoline passes through.

If universities were worth anything at all, they would fucking apologize or acknowledge that there is a problem. Universities refuse to apologize, so we should all consider the people who went to these institutions to be extremely uneducation; and by uneducated, I mean fucking stupid.

Generalizations are almost always wrong.

If you have a degree from a top-tier university (in a civilized, non-corrupted country) and you graduated with a 4.0 GPA,
it is pretty much guaranteed that you are well-educated.

The vast majority of university graduates end up with only superficially understanding the subjects
that they were studying.

But if you are passionate about the program you are pursuing, and you are talented, it is
just a matter of time before you become very well educated.

Do you need a university degree to be well-educated? Almost always the answer is yes.

Your college degree doesn't mean you are educated. What it means is that you were willing to live with college indoctrination long enough to get a degree from that college.

It's all about being a slave to the system long enough so that the system thinks you will tell others that the system is good.

There are lots of educated people who wouldn't touch college with a 50-foot pole. It's the reason why trade schools are so successful.

Huh, I don't want to be rude or anything but all this situation you are describing sounds like a personal problem you are having with a specific institution which may done something wrong to you.

Only because you had a bad experience in a university does not mean the concept of higher education is a wrong one and we should not generalize all of them because of one. We need more education and apply it to the problems of the society.

Are you referring to universities globally or within a specific region?? Because with no disrespect to your social status which I'm not interested in anyway, what point are you trying to prove??

Nobility. If we cannot trust universities to not promote violence against me or at least recognize that promoting violence against me is wrong, then we most surely cannot trust the graduates of these institutions to be competent at anything except for harming others.

But that's not his point. He's only emphasising on individual differences that one portrays which we know has nothing to do with degrees and certificates

Yeah, there's a deeper meaning about being educated. It's not just all about the academic achievements and stuff, whether it's a college degree, a masteral or doctoral.

But it's more of being how well mannered a person is and that's I think what you're implying to say. I used also to think about that when I see professional folks that have good job titles but when its come to their attitude, they fail.

Nobility. There we go with the Nazi talk again.

And that's why I'll still say it over again "jvannane you're uneducated"
Why then did you go up to achieving such feat as an academic?? Didn't you do research, thesis and dissertations before being decorated as a Ph.D holder?? Why didn't you become a doctorate degree holder by ignoring schooling and certifications??
Now you're referring to me as evil and uneducated. I'll put it to you that you don't know what education is.

Your college degree means you are educated, I will disagree with you based on my own opinion please, getting educated doesn't mean you are building only one career rather it means you learning more things about people way of living and how to relate in the outside world, getting a college degree does not mean your future will be built from that career, rather from that college degree you can build different career from it. So I will say get a college degree but do not let that degree make you focus on one particular career, rather let that college degree be an open door to multiple careers.

Nobility. Um. I have a Ph.D. which is a bit better than a stupid Bachelor's degree. And you are uneducated and evil, because you are the one here who is promoting violence against me because you are an absolutely terrible worthless pile of rubbish.

"Don't you think it's a selfish request?"-Oh f*** you. You are just a violence promoting Nazi who just wants to make any excuse possible to promote violence against me. Nobody is becoming a productive member of society by being a part of an institution that refuses to acknowledge that promoting violence against me is wrong. Instead, those people are simply becoming bloodthirsty Nazis.

With all due respect professor, the reason why people should disregard university degree or qualifications is because they promote or promoted violence against you. Don't you think it's a selfish request? Your case should be used to generalize about universities all over the world. You have not also told us what transpired between the university and you that let to the violence allegation. For me universities are institutions that teach educands specific or general skills that could help them to be productive and law abiding. Although there are some of them that promote other negative vices based on the educational goals of the country.

Firstly, what's your concept of education?? And if the reason to change the opinion stated is acknowledging that there's a problem and taking necessary steps then I will say this unapologetically that Joseph Van Name is uneducated

I was a mathematics professor, and as a professor, I must regard colleges are extremely unprofessional institutions that not only promote violence against me but also refuse to acknowledge that they are the problem. The only proper response to this situation is for people to collectively regard college degrees as very bad and college graduates as uneducated. The only thing that will get me to change my opinion about these wretched institutions is for the institutions to acknowledge that there is a problem and take steps to solve this problem.

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.