Topic: Your family disowns you over politics. (Read 256 times)

American politics is considered the most polarized and fierce in the world, and politicians are willing to do anything to achieve their goals. Just like in the last election, they are willing to assassinate each other, seek to imprison each other regardless of how this will bring bad reputation to the United States in the international arena. So you shouldn't be surprised that they also created such a country because political parties need enthusiastic support and cult-like worship to survive.

Not only in the US, I believe these things happen in many other countries too, we just never hear about them. That's why a lot of people don't care about voting, don't care about politics, and they think that if we support politicians, it means we're becoming their puppets .

Not a democrat problem, just a scumbag problem. Most of people would disown their family if they went all-in on democratic values as well. Both sides are trying to normalize some truly disgusting behavior and they are only doing it for power and political gain.

this sort of cut off especially in the religious sense sometimes pose the question on what true family is all about because in some religion, it even gets to the point where a father can kill his child or even watch his child being killed just because he believes in another religion. truth is that it is hard to watch someone that is close to you join in a contrary part that is against all the things you stand for but completely isolating the individual or even causing harm to the person is on the extreme.

politics is not a cult and often times, what a political party believes in officially doesn't reflect in what every member of the party believes in. today, a democrat might be a core supporter of his party and tomorrow he might just change and join he republican party. there is better way of selling the idea of your party to a brother or a family member other than making him feel like a stranger just because he doesn't align with your party system. in the typical Nigerian society were the people's democratic party and all progressive congress are the two main parties that most persons belong to, there is always a fine line between politics and every other form of relationship. when it it times for politics you play politics and when the season is over you go back to your normal activity and leave out all the sentiment.
even if you are on the right side of the divide, the fact that you can't relate well with your homies just because of different ideology is going to cause you some psychological issue that might progress into natural hatred with time.

Involvement in things like politics often bring about dispute especially when there are 2 differing opinions about a particular situation even amongst family members, colleagues at work and peers but I believe that everyone has the right to different opinions without discrimination.

People are such fucked up pieces of shit that they cannot communicate about anything meaningful without acting like complete and total dipshits. FUCK HUMANITY!!! HUMANS DESERVE TO BE FUCKING EATEN BY MIRROR SUPERBACTERIA! AND I WILL DO WHAT I NEED TO DO TO MAKE THE SUPERBACTERIA APOCALYPSE A REALITY!

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Nobody has to accept getting along with people who have completely different views about essential matters, like family, life and individual rights. Personally, many of the views and opinions from leftists are offensive to the lifestyle concept I consider to be the most productive and uplifting. During family's meetings, they only talk about ideological matters, under the optics YOU are guilty for the someone else's misfortune.

They completely remove personal responsabilities over the shoulders of people they consider to be victims of society, labelling everyone accordingly to their ethnicity and monthly income. For an example: if someone is poor, all his problems are originated from the abuses practiced by the middle class along the decades (leftists hate the middle class more than the wealthy ones).

By their sayings, it remains the impression that personal effort and work aren't valued. You are guilty if you thrive. I feel a heavy energy when they start talking, directly attached to frustration and envy. The ideology they adopted is the mean they found to manifest it in a "virtuous" way, as they say to be fighting for the oppressed ones.

Nobody should live together with people who make them feel sad, even if it's a family member.

Best thing to do is keep money, religion & politics discussions to a minimum. Say nothing if possible, keep them as  private opinions. Sometimes it’s good to say nothing about such sensitive subjects to risk upsetting family & friends. It’s probably not worth falling out with people over political beliefs.

If you pay attention to mainstream media and the way they show their news to the people of the country, then you may realize the division of the country is something which is done quite on purpose, probably to keep the duopoly of the power between the democrat party and the Republican party. There is almost no independent media with a huge audience in the USA and hence, you are being said 24/7 that republicans are evil or otherwise you are being said 24/7 democrats are evil. Inevitably, it will lead to people to confront one another and families to break apart because of politics.
There are already many examples of young people who have being disowned by their republicans parents, because of the extremely liberal thoughts and ideas.

Also, there is the classical example of Republican parents kicking out their house their son because he came out as an homosexual person.

I think this is absolutely different from the Christian way of cutting off from ungodly persons who have by their consistent character sworn not to change from their devilish way of living. The political cut-off in this case as narrated in the op is more of one driven by a personal interest motivated by the  desperation for power, and as such anyone who doesn't buy into the way is considered an enemy.

What makes democracy beautiful from all other forms of government is about the freedom it wields to people to make their own choices and respected by others that way in as much as it doesn't cause harm to next person. But in today's politics, power tussle has go so extreme that value for family and relationships is threatened. In my town a similar subject took place years back where a father shot his own son because he was on the other side of the divide in the state politics against his political ambition. 

Anyone found in such dilemma should not be recognized as been sane, you can’t chose political party over your family, no it’s not done that way. You may as well have different political parties and different views in terms of politics but that’s does not warrant taken another person’s life even though it’s not your family. Politics have gone way beyond just what we know in a democratically view, it is now run more on a do or die affair than what he should be. The political system in America is just a bit different from here since it’s run on a two party system only unlike other countries where we have a lot of political parties fighting for one position. Any other activities in politics is run similarly in all countries, it’s a very dirty game and if you can avoid been part of it fully, it’s going to be better for one, only if they knew.

Americans are too fucked up to act like civilized decent members of society anywhere.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

I'm quite surprised that something like this can happen in USA, I thought that they are the land of the free and people there are free to make their own choices. Political ideologies is not supposed to divide any family, especially in a supposedly "civilized" society like America, I'm still surprised to hear this can happen there. If the country is being ruled by an authoritarian regime where people are oppressed if they don't support an oppressive government, that I can relate with it. This goes to show that even in strong democratic countries like America, where everybody has a right to belong to a political party of their choices, we can't expect everybody to be truly democratic.

It is not that difficult, actually. It depends on whether political faction works more like a cult, it is something which has been discussed before.
Usually cults seek to isolate their members from outside influences and only to focus on what the cult leader has to say.
Ironically, both the political right and the political left of the United States has accused one another of being a cult. It is the current battle between the MAGA faction of the Republican party and the Woke faction of the democrat party. Both MAGA and Woke ones wish to cut ties with the rest of their families in the case those people do not align with their ideas.

I makes me think that perhaps, a country as huge as a USA needs to have more independent voters and centrist, so there is more  balance of ideology and also less confrontation between extremes, because we all know in the end a divided country is weaker when facing inner and externals foes.

Exactly, I don't see the sense in people coming on social media and be arguing over politics things, causing and hating other human beings. Where is our humanity? It's okay to have your political stand, you have the right to be in a party and support any political aspirant, but you don't have to be extreme about it. You don't have to fight about it to the extent of disowning family, like that's unthinkable.

 Family is all you got, because this politician barely knows, and it's not like they are able to read all their social media handles. They social media managers that read all these things for them. So whether you are even cutting off your family or killing yourself online, they might not know. Like, can we be more thoughtful towards family? Can we be more thoughtful before taking actions? It doesn't have to be like this. Politics is supposed to bring us together, not divide us. If it's dividing us from our family and our friends, then we have to do something about it.

It's difficult figuring out who is really wanting to cut ties with whom.

Because of social media, it is shaking my head when I see people go argue with their favorite politicians as if these people really cares for them. They disown because of the difference of their beliefs and choices over politics. This is the sad thing on this generation, people seem to be serious with political affairs than of their family affairs. I guess these politicians are aware of this and that's why they're not reminding people to go back over their values and study it once again if they are still on the line.

Creating unnecessary enemies among ourselves in a circle of friends and families has been one accompanied with politics that is why it is called "A game of individual interest" because we delegates to campaign and vote for anyone of our choice without getting let being redirected by a so relative because of you don't vote according to your mind and your candidates opposition wins and could not serve you good governance, you would be sure to have yourself blamed because your vote single vote counts a lead to a winning vote.

There should not be a sympathy vote on political election but voting based on certified capacity to lead well should be hold upon responsibly because as your vote speaks so you should also stand in the chances to yourself decisions.
But despites all these interests only fools that takes it so personal if the other is not in accord to their team because after politics comes your reality world where politicians compromised and fails their attracted promises.

Politics in many regions have no emotions like these but still we have this mindset and families are broken as well, but I never break any relationship just because of politics because I prefer relationships better than politics which is having never been on good in my life.

Sometimes we have serious discussions with many things also gone against us as well but controlling emotions and having fair and balance table talk always ended on batter and position point.

23 percent of families want to disown other members for having different political opinions. I bet that if people did not lie about their political opinions, that number would be closer to 100 percent. After all, most people are stupid ass psychotic pieces of shit who deserve eternal damnation. FAMILIES SUCK! ALL FAMLIIES ARE ABUSIVE PIECES OF SHIT! IF YOU SEE A BABY, GIVE THE ENTIRE FAMILY THE MIDDLE FINGER FOR BEING AN ABUSIVE PILE OF SHIT!

It is exceedingly difficult to have respectful and constructive discourse with anyone anywhere because humans (especially you, bitch) are fucked up pieces of shit.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

P.S. People generally do not want to implement solutions that will actually solve problems. People just want to act like pieces of shit. I can think of a few ways that will dramatically improve our political systems, but people don't want to think about this because they are too fucking stupid to live. And yes, I really mean that. I know of a way to prevent the extinction of humanity, but I would rather not deal with human stupidity, so I will continue to be mostly silent about this because you are all a bunch of stupid ass pieces of shit who deserve extinction. If you don't like what I have to say, then ACT BETTER, BITCH!

It is kind of a very unpleasant thing to try to argue with someone who does not harbor the same political ideas you do, specially when comes to the woke-left of the USA or Europe. You can have a political argument with a conservative person who does not agree with the main ideas behind libertarians, and it can be a respectful and constructive conversation until both parties agree they have differences which cannot be resolved. On the other hand, it is very difficult to have such a respectful and constructive conversation with someone within the woke-leftist spectrum, it would not take much time before they started to call you names, after saying some of the things you genuinely believe in

Politics in the western world  is not supposed to be a do or die affairs people should  learn to put things in their right places   politics should not interfere with family in the right sense

In the US politics certain families have played certain influencial roles when it comes king making as such leadership revolves within their camp that's it becomes hard on them when a member goes anti party

A liberal political supporter should always respect opinions from a supposed opponents or people that have contrary view from them, Democracy doesn't encourage intolerance as having arguments and opposing views are one of the key ingredients that forms a democratical system.

But one thing in democracy that is not arguable is the fact that, election has consequences. the opposition party should not expect favorable laws from a suppose openent party, so that is why you always need to be at the majority party so that your opinions would be recognised because "minority they say will have their say but majority will always have their way".

Most parents won't want anything to between their relationship with their children not even what they live most. Sometimes they will always be rage and disagreements but the find a way to either convince the children or if it gets beyond what they can handle the choose to let the children have their way just to preserve relationship.


No fact no matter how polished and coincise it might appear will be justifiable. All the week is equality and freedom and I see no reason to destroy them. The fact lefties sees the the society radically different from others doesn't necessarily mean they are bad just as people tend to paint them. The leave in a world of fantasy which is correct but yet their perspective might be what might work out if tried.

Politics can break families apart when they have different views about the election, and who they support. What I don't fancy about it, is when they begin to take it to the next level of hating and killing themselves for someone who doesn't know whether they exist or fighting for their interest.

It's only a fool who hates his or her family for politics, whereby the person they support wouldn't be in the seat of leadership for long, they will step down, and another person will take over. Why then hate on family members for what reason, when the family bond is meant forever, not to be broken by politics

I have no problem with that, since my parents were always more conservative than me. They were the old guard of authoritarian Christian conservatives who grew up after WW2, while I was always a conservative libertarian, so we had our differences, especially when it came to religion and law, but there was never any risk of isolation or disowning.

I don;t know any leftist, or people who like woke culture. If I knew them I'd probably destroy them with facts.

There is no doubt that family love is one of the most important things one can have in moments of uncertainty and in my opinion and that love and care is never supposed to be broken by politics, not even for disagreements among family members on how a country is supposed to be run or not.
It is part of the playbook of how American politics work, if you asked me, keeping the families and the whole population of a country divided and fighting against one another, so they cannot focus on real problems within society.
It is said that family is the basic unit of society and if that is true then western families need to be aware of the importance of union, care, love and mutual support within a family, otherwise one's country gets weaker and weaker through time.

The "cut off" happens in Christianity too, but not done in hate. You could consider it an act of love especially for the healthy ones who are uninfected by evil from infected person.
The cut off is like isolating an infected person from the rest, but the isolated person isn't allowed to rot away. He/she is isolated to heal while being voluntarily "reeducated" with the holy Bible.

But when people at the wrong side are isolating you, instead of you isolating them, it could be considered a self isolation which they do ignorantly for your good. Besides, humans or animals with dissimilar behavior naturally "isolate" themselves. And that could help keep things be more peaceful, prevent the whole from getting spoiled or let people with similar abilities come together to solve problems they are uniquely equipped to solve

This post makes me recall how a brother shot his own brother because of different political views. These democrats are taking the issue too far and thereby destroying their family ties. Elections will come and go but your family members will always be around forever. If you disconnect with your children because of your political views, when you get old or sick would your political party come and stand with you. It's stupidity to choose a political party over a family.

A PRRI study shows 23% of Democrats want to cut ties with family members who disagree with them about politics. Leftist outlet Salon covers the story in a seemingly positive way:
https://www.salon.com/2024/12/18/going-no-contact-with-maga-parents-crucial-self-care-or-the-unraveling-of-america/

"On the Trump-voter side of the debate, the sentiment has been nearly unanimous: It's an outrage if "woke" friends and family stop speaking to them. The only real disagreement among that cohort is whether this trend is literally the devil's work, or merely liberal "intolerance." One TikTok video that went viral featured a woman crying about being cut off and saying, "I'm completely heartbroken about my family taking it how they are. I never did this to them when Biden won." Conservatives have coined the phrase "vote-shaming," which seems to equate political and ideological conflict with personal choices regarding diet or sexuality."

It seems to me this is the bedrock measure of a cult. You have a system of belief, and if you are a disbeliever, you are cut off, whether family or not. It is clearly and obviously intolerant, but the deluded author Salon merely put intolerance in quotes as to not agree with the intolerance of it.

There is nothing that has helped my life more, especially during trying times, than the unconditional love of the people in my life. The shining gem of western conservatism is the unconditional love that seems to specifically originate from Christianity.