Topic: Your rate in betting base on odds alone? (Read 581 times)

In as much as soccer is one of the widely known games, that doesn't place any guaranty on it and there was a thread here where someone lost a whopping sum of about  one million 400 thousand america dollars on a 1.4 odd game and that was an eye opener that no game is too small  and regardless  of the odd and how sure we might be about a game, we should always try our best to have a good risk management strategy  that will always keep us in market irrespective  of the losses  because always are always in control  of all we do.

Soccer betting is more popular than other sports since it is more understood. Even when it comes to betting, people still like to put a wager under soccer. I understand how younger people can win;D I think you should be careful how you set up your games because sometimes if you lack patience, it will be challenging for you to win. I've also noticed that when you rush, you win and you keep winning in the hopes of winning, which is when addiction sets in. Even though I play for fun, it's not always simple to win even when I do.

Losses and profits are generated on a daily basis; it is best to plan for them so that everything runs smoothly. We always make strategies to attain better results, and even though soccer is comparable to seasons, we never see it coming. There would be seasons where anything related to sports favored us, it didn't matter which odd we chose, what mattered was for our predictions to be correct, which triggered our beliefs and some of us might be wiser, but most will drive into addiction, thinking they're some kind of pro experts in the space, not knowing it's all luck all the way.

I have more wins than losses so far. Of course, sometimes it's the other way but it's worth doing and in the long run, I think it will work while there is nothing left to do but bet. I use to just bet on sports that I like and know the most also but combat sports are not happening every day. Boxing matches take months and UFC events only happen on weekends.
There are risks still betting on 1.5 because some players turn the tide in a moment and we lose.  It rarely happens, however.

I think for someone who knows nothing about the sport, it's best for him to rely on the odds and the picker's choice. Don't you think?

You have experienced yourself that you have lost every day in soccer games, so why do you want to continue? I have no idea why, is it because you have no idea about you bet (bet blindly by choosing low odds) or because you following other's bets. You are free to do whatever you want to make more money including by gambling but, are you ready to lose it as well? Even if sports betting with lower odds than 1.5, there is still big chance to lose your money. Means that you main purpose to make more btc wont happen unless you are very lucky in one of your bets that give you huge return.

As for me i just considers it a risk when the odds appears in-between the two figures highlighted above, that is not a determinant for winning because they set up the odds specifically to distract some while as the match proceeds they also adjusted these same odds, but there are many people who are interested in these odds and take advantage of them because they have been used to how they manage them while gambling to always keep safe.

Predicting more than two teams is not easy but for people who are used to researching and finding a team with a bigger chance of winning than their opponent, it will be fine and they can do it.

I guess people who want to place bets will check every game and only place bets on games they are familiar with. Very rarely do people place bets on matches they are not familiar with because the risk of losing will be bigger.

Indeed, it's a perplexing phenomenon. Betting houses aren't just constructed on the foundation of bricks, but also on the solid underpinning of statistics. The "house edge", as you rightly note, is not just an antagonist, but the ultimate adversary. By solely focusing on the house edge, one may fail to note the value of research. In gambling, research and data analysis can be your Ariadne's thread, leading you through the maze. It's the golden rule: "the house always wins". However, that doesn't mean you can't sometimes break even, or even, on occasion, come out on top. But yes, never lose sight of the fact that your enemy is the house, not other gamblers. The house is what you're up against; fellow gamblers are simply fellow travellers on the same path, each attempting to find their way through the maze.

Yes, that's right, that's the most important thing before placing a bet, researching a team's strength, for example in football sports betting, you need to research in depth about the strength of the opposing club and the strength of your favorite club, not just because the betting odds are below 2.00, for example 1.70 or 1.50, of course it's not a benchmark that the bet is confirmed to win. but everything returns to the analysis that must be done before the match.

But there are also many gamblers who actively gamble during matches by taking advantage of high odds and also hoping for luck to come. Even so, every form of betting has its own risks, whether betting before the match or during the match, it is equally risky, well, in essence, doing research is most important the rest depends on luck, sometimes a club that is not the favorite can win with high Odds.

To do research so that you can make good predictions is an easy thing, but to be able to always win and choose more than two teams to be able to win everything is a difficult thing to do because the house edge will never let you win just like that and make a profit the greater one.
If you imagine betting just by making predictions then everyone can do it but here it's not just about research and predictions but you also have to take into account whether you can actually win or lose later because your enemy is the house edge, not just fellow gamblers.

Only by doing in-depth research can it be done to find a team with a higher chance of winning. And if we can do it for 5 games at a time and finally win, it will increase the money in the account. And if we can repeat it several times, surely the money we will get will also increase. But it all depends on how good our ability is in researching and finding clues to choose the right team and most of us see that out of 5 matches, we can only win 3-4 matches while there are matches we lose. But that's okay because at least we've benefitted from the other matches.

I believe that you might want to have a subjective side if betting too. Like not only betting on one side of a team but also truly watching it. Involve yourself in every game until you see a pattern of which team performs better than this or to this team. Not only by the numbers but also by seeing real-time how it is being played. Because for me, booking of bets does not have to do with how the team will perform in the is it? it is how you perceive a team winning or not, how well they score or defend, and how much they got violations or flags.

When you truly know the game you are betting, it is easier for you to take intuition of your own bets with an edge because you built it with experience.

You've probably chosen the wrong stream if earning more Bitcoin is what you are aiming for, gambling is not for that, you should go for trading in that case if you know how trading is done, I'm pretty sure you do base on your rank and experience, so you should probably not gamble away what you have if you are willing to have even more by the time we hit the bull run because gambling will not let you have that for long and it will take it all away.

If you are doing sports betting, you shouldn't just make bets based on the odds and should at least do some research before you place your bets because sometimes even the teams with very high odds manage to win and that is because the favorites haven't really been up to the game lately and you can only know that if you do some research.

this is the same as a parlay bet which is very profitable if you are lucky to be able to win all the matches you choose even for only $ 5. but for parlay bets or choosing several matches, try to choose just one league. because choosing a parlay bet in one league will make the odds even higher, as I have done before comparing parlays in one league or mixing other leagues, the odds are very different.
back to the discussion, that in sports betting this can be very profitable when with a small budget to get big profits but all of that with the condition that you have to be careful in doing the analysis and for me if the match is very clear who the winner would be better to choose at least 5 matches but if it's hard to analyze better choose single bet to leave the risk is too high.

It will be better. It is also useful for many gamblers, especially those who don't have much money but want to bet on sports betting. $5 to win or $5 to bet on 5 games makes sense because it's such a small amount to bet so if we lose all the games, it's not that big. And I guess if we lose, $5 is an amount most gamblers can live with.

And if you win $ 5, your capital also increases so you can place even more bets. In this way, you can increase the amount of your capital and you can gradually accumulate a lot of money.

Odds, changing or not, will not determine the winner of the game. It is jist a 'pulse' from the gamblers such that majority thinks that the team with lower odds will win the game. Although it happens often, it would be wrong to fully rely on it such as betting all out. Anything could happen not only in the match but also with gambling. Therefore, risk management should always be consider than to be dependent with different factors such as odds.  Indeed there's a reason to why the odds is low or why do majority of bettors believe that a particular team would win; could be previous matches and stats. It is just that super teams in any field came across losses.

But this will not be easy, right. Because the odds may be changing during the live. The chance of winning in betting is sometimes cewek or fifty fifty. i personally also want to make more NTV from gambling, but honestly and actually this is not easy.

this will always be risky and whatever the decision is, gambling on Certain odds, or other sports bets will always be at risk, so yes, only against camping in things that we really understand

Well, hard to answer this question properly. There are lots of various factors that affect the odds and the probability of the possible event is already matched inside the odds. That is why taking into consideration only odds will give a specific advantage to the user and users can explore the possible outcome variation by just checking the odds portal. The best website for this purpose is definitely oddsportal platform but you have to register to check odds change for getting the best results, IMO.

I think we can agree that in soccer matches the team that first score already has the highest chance of winning the game so if the odds is 1.30, you can simply say the team will win.
Given that kind of odds, I will already be grabbing that chance to win.

Like @KTChampions said,  bookmakers determine the result of the game with an error of 1%.  At this rate, it's close to perfection. The only chance the other team has is a divine intervention.

Are you kidding me because I can see that your are trying to chase your loss that is why you want to change your strategy to betting on small odds...we can't be accurate with betting on small odds to guarantee our wins,because gambling is based more on luck but sometimes skill and knowledge also helps. The probability of you placing your bet on small odd in sportbet is 50-50. It is only if you are sure that the team with small odd is far better than the other team that is when this works. Don't gamble to win btc for the bull run because you might end up losing them all,and you will start to regret when the bull run comes.

I don't do soccer betting but I have won many bets on Cricket. The losses I mainly had were from e-sports because the teams that I betted for were doing very good in first round, however their gameplay went wrong after 2nd and 3rd rounds. I betted on Dota 2 and CS:GO mostly, and lost in both of the games. I supported favorite teams and I lost the bets, however, I have noticed that in e-sports betting sometimes we can win huge multipliers if we bet on weaker teams. They can win the games out of no where because you don't expect them to win the games, however in final round, weaker teams mostly win the game.

I don't generally bet based on the odds because whenever I bet I like to make a research of my own.
By doing that, I don't have any regrets later because I don't have anyone else to blame for the loss.
Also, I only place bet on odds more than 1.3x and avoid bets less than that.

Anyone who sees a big opportunity in front of their eyes will definitely be tempted a lot to this opportunity.
But opportunities like this make many gamblers lose large amounts of their money because they just immediately take advantage of opportunities without doing research first.
Yes, opportunities like that often occur in sports betting and we can always find them easily when there are lots of matches going on, but I still remind you that seeing opportunities like that it would be better to do research and research first before actually risking the money you have.

Why analyze if the bookmakers have already done everything for you? The coefficients most accurately reflect all the information known about the teams at the moment. I read somewhere that bookmakers determine the result of the game with an error of 1%. It is unlikely that this accuracy can be seriously increased. So if there is a desire to win more often, then you need to bet on the favorites, but you need to remember that even in this case you will pay the margin to the bookmaker and will be in the red in the long run.

Soccer IMO is 1 of the worst games to bet just because the tie. I bet during The World Cup, but otherwise I stay away from it. There is probably a lot of money that can be made from soccer but I live in the USA where soccer wasn't really all that popular until recently.

I think no one on earth has a reliable profit win rate for 1.5 odds (you need to win 2 out of 3 just to break even). Much better to go for closer to 2/1 odds on games you're very certain about, or using some kind of price boost. I don't normally go for them except on big games where I want to pad another more important match.

Sportsbet has a daily price boost that gets 1.8 to 2/1, that's where I'd bet my daily big bets. In fact, even without the price boosts, they tend to have better odds than Stake (which is where I'm assuming you bet).

Juice is so important, every little small percentage edge adds up, so it makes sense to shop around.

I thought you were asking because you're just want to know other users' preference, but it seems not as you're gamble in order to make more money. This is wrong because when you're always expecting you will win, when the result is not like what you expect, you will start to blame yourself and not enjoy during gambling. Make sure you have change your view to gamble for money to gamble for fun.

For me, I would bet when the odds is higher than 1.80x.

I hope it's not what you will make use of your investment funds to gamble with the hope of things may looks well when you gamble to take double advantage of both gambling and bullrun, well everything involves taking risk andbe reminded that there's nothing certain the too than the risk involved


Odds can persuade us to gamble and bet games we are not even meant to try because we think there's an opportunity in doing so and we would like to take an advantage of the presented odds for maximum profitability, this is common with varieties of sport games and live matches.

Betting in small amounts I think is strategic. I did these in Premier League, ITF, Nations League, and Baseball which in a few hours you will know how many wons you got right among the 5 matches you bet on. Just $5 each but of course, you will pick the teams who are favored. 

If by a few hours, you profited I guess, then perhaps the odds of the bookmakers are right. I gradually increased the number of matches. Things you do for fun without watching the game actually 

to be honest, I don't only bet on certain soccer sports, but it depends on my interests to analyze the match and sometimes I take a little risk on a team that is not the favorite but with the strict analysis that I use. maybe I will give a few examples from my experience but this is not my intention to show off but to give an example not to always place your bets at certain odds.
as long as you can predict and profit, do it.




this is an example of my past bet without choosing at what odds I will bet but more concerned with which matches I can predict.

but my advice if you do this with the thought of increasing your BTC assets, you have to be more careful or don't do it. if you do this with that in mind I'm afraid you can't control yourself to bet on matches you don't know about.

I also bet small bets for every game I want to participate in because by placing small bets, I won't lose a lot of money if the team I choose loses. And even though if I win, the money won't be big either, that's okay because betting on sports is just fun. Apart from that, I also don't bet on sports betting too often, only on certain events where I know much about the teams that will compete. It will be safer for me because I don't lose big money, can still wait for the results, and relax while playing slot games as usual.

The point I'm making is that betting based on just odd analysis alone is not productive. Of course like you said, it can be twisted and manipulated to confuse those gambling for that week. So we need to move away from only analysing based on odds and look at other areas that will give good analytical Idea to winning the bet like head to head performance of previous games, the players psychology and readiness, injuries etc .

So far maybe 0%. To be honest I don't bet based on the odds too often, but when I want having fun I definitely do it only with small bets. But all my bet didn't go very well, because my parlay always lost if bet based on odds so far, that's why I wrote 0%. If you make a bet based on odds, my advice is to do it in small amount maybe successful if you bet on single bets. But don't do it, because it's better research first Sir.

The moment you become so tactical about your bet thats the moment everything turns sideways because even the bookmakers sometimes twist these odds to get the gambler confuse because like you said there are several cases of small odds winning the big odds and if you are gambler who rely basically on odd selection you will always fall victim to such manipulation.

People here are not discouraging OP from gambling, rather we're trying to discourage him from looking at gambling as a means to make money. Those are two completely different things. We, as gamblers, know that what we do isn't the best way to make money. If you want to earn something, get some work or get some gigs that give you money. Gambling does not 100% provide you that. It takes luck and skill to do that, whereas in getting a job and receiving a pay check, you do as what the job description says and you'll be paid, no matter how mediocre your work is at the end of the day.

That's what I usually do. I bet on over/under in football and it works well most of the time. Winning these bets doesn't give you a lot of money because it's more of a general bet than betting on a total score of the match or a specific team. It's more like playing dice in sports, at least the math is similar.
I agree with those who say you shouldn't see it as a way to get more bitcoin before the bull run because that will put you at a mental disadvantage. Focusing on a goal will only make you regret more when you fail to reach it.

Defeats that often occur when I bet parlay. Parlay bets often cause players to lose because one team loses so all the other teams that have won based on the selection will mean nothing.
I rarely bet using Bitcoin but instead place bets using fiat on this type of football bet.

I often win in football betting based on small odds by choosing teams with 1.50 and 1.70 because the team that I will place is superior in quality.
Usually, the dealer gives a small chance to a team that is considered strong or has a much greater chance of winning and will give the opposite to a team that is likely to lose.
For example, my favorite football team against another team, which incidentally, based on statistics, has often won every game they have played in different seasons.

Winning of bet is not necessarily about the odds that you choose to bet on. Betting is gambling but you also have to do some underground work on it by researching and analysing the match going through the games already played by both teams. I have seen some upset with small odds losing against big odds. There are different ways that some predict with odds like if the small odd keep reducing and the big odds is increasing, with this they mostly and rightly predict a winning for the small odd vice versa. It is not easy with betting, you have to have faith in your prediction and hoping for luck to shine on you but definitely not because of your odd as a reason you lose or win your betting.

Gambling blindly might also lead to losses and a gambler doesn't wished to be in the shoes of losing, they knows how that feelings works, I've been there and I say this for free, one would be emotionally unstable, at that moment one would be ready to face whatever consequences. Everything is not all about guessing, rather full analysis should be carried out inother to increase the probability of winning, its never too late know the basic necessities before placing a bet. Although these games might be risky but it's important to be on the safer side, not betting all because of been persuaded by the profris, rather for the passion and extreme caution.

Well, betting just based on odds have never really been a good and effective gambling, or rather, a betting strategy.
This is exactly what I was doing when I was new to betting, I never really had the time to watch matches on television, or follow their updates online, and those days, I've always lost 98 percents of all my betting activities.
Atleast this happened until I started creating time to watch matches, or even follow live updates online, with this, I started building my own sports knowledge, and from there, I began to see many of my bets won rather than loose.

I see many of you want to discourage OP from gambling, but this is a gambling forum! Most of us here gamble or have gambled and most of us advertise a casino, so saying that he shouldn't gamble when he wants to make money is contradictory.

I say gamble, just set yourself goals that are reachable. If you really want to make some bitcoin in a safe way, work for it, sell some stuff for bitcoin and so on, but if you want to try to gamble, go for it. Best way for me would be to bet fiat money and if you sin, pocket the bitcoin profit and move it to your offline wallet.

Its not all in picking side you have also various number of bets you can do for odds for example between 1.50-1.70. You can try and do over/under aswell. But picking blindly without knowing the team is like betting on red or black. You need to analyse the matches and know the players so you can pick out the winner to increase your winning percentage.

I think you should learn and learn more about the game you are betting with instead of just betting to it. And it is not right thing to always hope to gambling that it will be the best thing to create more money, people who always do that tend to lose more trying to earn more and more each day that's why it is not advisable to make it as a passive income.

One-sided match I guess can be a good strategy and finding these by just looking at the odds. I have been trying this for a week and although I made profits but these one-sided matches can sometimes end in an upset.

Which sports do you think this can be done besides soccer? There are only a few games in a day but if there are about 10 matches, the result could be more profitable.
Some bets however are voided, anyone experienced the same?

He meant easier, so it's most likely the total goals or asian totals in some sportsbooks with the over and under instead of the correct score where you need to be more precise.

If the totals are too high, i'd also check for the BTTS and sometimes pair it with the over since they can boost the odds around -120. Or if it's a one-sided match, i'll take the team totals, it's a good alternative against the asian handicaps but not all sportsbooks have this market.

Do you mean betting on the correct goals that are scored in a game, or just betting on a range of goals that could be scored? The first proposition can be quite difficult to predict since you'll lose if you don't accurately predict the exact goal score. On the other hand, if you bet on a range of goals the odds will be lower but your chances of winning will be higher. Which i do the most is simply simply bet on over x.x or under x.x goals.

In some leagues where there are a lot of goals scored weekly, I go for "both teams to score," which has relatively good odds and sometimes, I also bet on corners or cards (yellow/red cards).

When you say known football games I think this will still depend on our familiarity of the team. Not to be harsh but the OP seems a beginner when it comes to sports betting because he is only basing on the odds and not on other factors which can help us better to increase our winning chance. Knowing how the sport is played is not enough skill to have in sports betting.

Sports-betting is still a form of gambling and no matter how sure we are, the chance of losing is still there. This is why it is not advisable if our main aim is to make more money. If I'm with the OP, I will just play less for fun purposes only and I will just continue buying and holding my BTC because that alone is already enough to give me a better profit once the bull run arrives.

You sure with that? Be careful because you may not have anything anymore when the bull run comes.

It is not just all about the odd but be sure that you get to see the news around it. If you're a certain fan of soccer, you get the ins and outs of it and mostly the most recent news that circulates with the upcoming match.

That will give you an edge and it's not just always the odds that you have to consider but also get to know what's with the two teams on that match you're about to bet with.

I suggest just being a bettor on usual. It might give you pressure to win if you have a target goal like that especially if you are also dealing with the market volatility and speculative price. Just try to maintain winnings "regardless of the market trend". Isn't it more comfortable to just be on your usual as in the first place, the goal is to make profits.


Only you can find a better way to deal with that. As long as you continue lurking on that sport, it might give you a better strategy on the way. First of all, do you really bet on soccer since then, or just new there? Anyways, not an assurance that the winning chance or rate is high if you bet based on odds especially on soccer, that you are also dealing with a DRAW result there, not just a team who will WIN or LOSE.

Do you intend to have more BTC from winning bets and be able to collect a large amount when BTC increases in price?

If that's what you're betting on then I don't agree with you and it's better to collect BTC slowly by buying and keeping it because when you bet there is a big chance of losing the amount that is staked.
Football sports betting is the easiest in my opinion because there are many types of bets to choose from with relatively different odds.
Betting only by relying on Odds is a folly that must be avoided if you want to have a bigger chance of winning.

Do you bet on 1x2 type of bet or moneyline since a 1.50 to 1.70 odds on 1x2 bet types is pretty dangerous due to the 3 way scenarion. Statistically speaking, You should be winning more by choosing that kind of odds on 2 outcome bets. I believe the problem is not on your odds choice but on the bet type picks because you can win more if you will beat on that kind of odds in Basketball since that odds show a dominance on the game.

I’m not expert on soccer but I saw a lot of regular games ending on draw even if the odds is very high. Most likely the lower odds is not really that low if you consider the actual status of the game.

I think everyone in sports betting understands the risk already of losing. It is however almost derisked to bet on a team that is close to winning, with fewer profits however but sometimes it ends up losing still, especially in a sport that is highly unpredictable like the MMA sport which one false move of a good fighter makes him lose.

Soccer is almost predictable at some point especially when one team already has gotten 1 point. Before the odds change, I think 1.50 is worth risking.

If you like betting on football I would recommend you rather gamble on number of goals that will be scored. In general its easier to guess this compared to guess who will win the match. Using odds alone method can make more sense here because scorer teams will always have lower odds in higher amount of goals. I think its possible to really strike good amount of money here. I personally do not suggest odds alone method but I only see one possible "may work" section.

This is a bad plan IMO, this is how people get addicted to gambling, when plans meet gambling it leads to self-destruction,  leave gambling be and don't plan anything with gambling, this is hard to believe but it's pure fact.

Gambling was never meant to change the life of anyone, if you walk down this part of you believing that you can accumulate Bitcoin through gambling, you will lose it all, the best money for accumulating Bitcoin is your hard earned money, gambling isn't hard-earned, it's total.gambling that's based on luck, you will lose most times and no one has an antidote for this.

Find a stable source of income if truly you want to see your Bitcoin accumulation a success, do not rely on gambling for anything, not even for buying a pen.

We already have another way to be able to increase our BTC amount by trading. But before we can start profiting from trading, we must learn to understand how to trade properly, analyze the market, and practice what we have learned. We have to do that to be able to benefit.

Meanwhile, if he chooses to gamble to increase his BTC amount, he must understand that gambling can cause him to suffer losses. In addition, he is not always able to benefit from gambling because many people have tried it but he failed before he could benefit from gambling.

I just recently tried betting for soccer matches and mostly when I see tips on the chatbox from popular users in Stake.com only. I can say it is a bit difficult too. Even if the odds are like 1.50 - 1.60 there are always chances for the third option which is a draw. I think it's harder than betting for games without draws. Just pick one team and voila, claim your profits if you guess the right team or swallow it if you lost. Unlike in soccer, there's little regret about why it ends up in a draw instead of just 1 winner.
Sadly, I have not been successful here even though I am choosing the favorites. But, I do have some luck with over and underscores. I don't know why but I seem to understand it more by using the history of both teams on their average points per game. Right now, I am just focusing on that type of betting instead of team picks.

I think gambling to increase the amount of Bitcoins owned is not wise enough, because gambling is not the right way, gambling does not provide certainty of winnings, and buying Bitcoin in the DCA way is better in my opinion than betting or trading
Unfortunately, I rarely bet on the money line, so choosing another market that is considered to be more profitable but still not always like that.
Next season when the game starts again, I will try the strategy of only betting on one team that I predict will perform well throughout the season, maybe they will get a few defeats or also draws but the winning results will be more like what happened to Manchester City and some other teams, only the odds will sometimes get lower from time to time if the team performs consistently with many wins.
But I don't bet so that I can keep my bitcoins growing because targets like this can sometimes make us more pressured and not careful in predicting matches.

On a normal way everyone gambling will want games or sports with odds that are given because the higher the odds the better the increased chances of winning big, many people will have to consider the odds especially when they are on the target to win a huge amount, but eventually people still don't understand that the more the odds is far it's likely come as expected, odds can deceives sometimes.

Sometimes the more you chase after something the more it gets away. So your hope of being able to increase your BTC by playing gambling is quite the wrong decision, considering that your chances of winning are not that great. I myself would not want to increase my Bitcoin in this way because it is not effective at all, it is better to trade because it is much more effective and the opportunity for profit is far greater than gambling.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but if you meant that you're hoping to make more BTC by betting, you're probably mistaken. While I don't disagree that you may earn through betting, the truth is that gambling isn't a way to make money. You will probably lose more than win in gambling. That includes sports betting.

More bets means more chances of winning? Possibly. But it also means more chances of losing. So, if you want to acquire as much Bitcoin as possible before the bull run takes full speed, I think you better try to make as much money as possible and buy Bitcoin. Stack Sats before they get so expensive. Gambling isn't stacking Sats; it is losing them.

But keep in mind that the more bets you make, the more you will lose. In football betting [sports betting] I never bet more than 2 or 3 games a day. Even if I will win or lose, I will still quit. If it forces me to bet on other matches, then it's just assumptions and lust, no more analysis and I always lose if I use that method.

If I prefer to play at odds of 1.7 and above. Sometime in 2.2 or 2.5. But it takes analysis and faith. If I'm unlucky that day, I sometimes bet at odds of 1.2/1.3 with big bets to get my losses back. Yesterday I almost won at odds 8.3 but I hesitated and put nothing there, usually I put it at big odds for little money. And several times it worked

I don't usually rely on odds when I try to bet. I take them into account, but only at the last second. I usually base it on the teams that are playing, simple statistics that I can infer from their past matches, players, coaches, stuff like that. I won't deny that I've taken some bets with the odds only, especially in cases where I absolutely have no idea who were the teams that were playing the matches, then I refer to the odds. It's still close to a 50/50 afaik though, might be lower, I don't really keep track of which ones I just wing anyway.

That odds is too risky though, maybe lower might be good enough, but who knows, sometimes upsets happen in soccer that often so it's hard to bet on the favorites and it might be better to go for the underdog from time to time.

Anyone, not sure how effective your strategy is for putting your BTC in gambling in hope that you can accumulate more.

Might be better if you will just hold on it and not take the risk? just saying.

Betting on odds right? Well in some cases it does work but not all the time. It is betying on the underdog team and to the majority, there's a reason why the other team is an underdog although it is not certain. This is somehow going against majority's opinion about a match and ofcourse if you would win in bigger odds, then returns would be higher. High risk;high reward concept.

But if you're in need to accummulate big winnings and if you are ready to put money into it, I'd advise arbitrage betting more. It is a kind of scheme that a player would bet on every possible outcome of the game to assure winning on different sites. Just be sure to have the right position in order to avoid bigger risk of losing more.

I certainly share the opinion of others members here when they say that the best way to prepare for the bull run is to play less, save your Bitcoin and not spend more with the hope of getting a good prize.

Surely you've heard a lot about it, but still don't believe that: Gambling is a game where you should bet just for fun, not for money, putting in it only what you're willing to LOSE.

You are right to place sports bets as they are the easiest way to increase your winning odds rather than other games based on luck alone, but still you should not see games as a way to multiply money for a future plan.

Good luck!

I don't often win bets in soccer games, especially if I don't do an analysis. Analyzing before placing a bet is very important to know how big the chance is for the team we want to choose to win. If you lose every day, you need to take a break because it will only make you place more bets. If you can analyze, you can place multiple bets at once. But if you don't analyze, you will lose no matter how much money you use. It's better for you to bet on a team that you know and can collect more complete data so you can win. Just skip matches you don't know about so you don't experience a losing streak because you placed many bets.

The result will always be unpredictable because unexpected things usually happen but if you're continuously losing, then you might lack strategy. You must learn how to analyze the game or even search for the players' previous game histories so you would have an idea of where to bet. Despite the unexpected result, you could still have an advantage through research.
If you're planning to accumulate and invest more in Bitcoin, I don't think it will be wise to wait for your luck in gambling. I guess it will be best if you'll have a separate allocation for investing and gambling so that in case you fail in gambling, you'll still have enough preparation when the bullish season approaches. Waiting for your luck just so you'll have funds for investing in Bitcoin will not give you any assurance of good profit in the future.

The first thing you should know, in every betting, winning and losing is commonplace. in fact, no prediction is really 100% accurate. well, let's discuss.

Actually, you don't have to stick with just one betting option, I mean with a 1×2 bet. In football betting, you have many options that you can choose according to the final results of the analysis you are doing. In betting, there are various options available. but generally, we bet at 1×2. You can bet on goals, handicaps, under/overs, corners, and so on.
To be honest, I don't like the odds below @1.50, but for @1.70, it's at least ideal. for example, if the team that I predict has a high probability of winning the match, but the available odds are not ideal for example @1.50. I will look for other alternatives that are ideal in my opinion. can bet on Under/Over. or, the Asian Handicap option. You can also, bet on both teams to score.

The point, before referring to the betting options. I always make it a habit to do some research and find all new information regarding the two teams that will compete. to be sure, there is a lot that becomes my consideration before making a betting choice. well, this is where we need experience, insight, and knowledge, if you want to be involved in sports or football betting.
Also make sure, you are very familiar with the league you are betting on. if possible, you have to learn about football itself, for example, formations, patterns, systems, players, and so on. for me, this is very important because it will always be involved when we do research.

Btw, I hope what I'm saying can provide the bit of information you need.

Yes anything can happen even during the live games and it all depends on the luck factor on the side of the gambler because there is nothing like sure predictions and at that, all our analyses still depend on luck to win,  I have lost a couple of live games but if the ratio between my loses and winning put together I think I have won more than I lose in a live game.

But on the ability for the odd to get manipulated on and at that the gambler is at the advantage of easy prediction and actual payout since the odds will remain the same all through the games.

You wager on them games regardless of which division they are?? How do you make your analysis?.. cus I'm quite certain that anyone that's got an entitlement in real life shouldn't be focused on watching every league's game...so, I ask again, how do you run your predictions?
Apparently, it's clear that a win isn't guaranteed when you wager on smaller odds..; it only FEELS safer sometimes as most games with smaller odds are super teams with the capability to win: AGAIN', ITS NEVER GUARANTEED SO I WON'T EVEN CONSIDER THEM ODDS WHEN PLAYING.

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I like to think the latter when it comes to live games because the game is already in session and although its hard for them to manipulate the odds then but there is still the fact that anything can happen in that game that can alter your predictions and make you lose that bet and moreover life bet makes you spend more money since you will have to stake the game huge cash to actually guaranteed any good returns and don't even start by telling me you bet for fun because you will definitely like to win and not the opposite.

Odds can deceive anyone and sport book sites are always fun of using the odds mechanism to trick gamblers into choosing the wrong odds by being manipulative in their odd allocation,  because sometimes they give bigger odds to the stronger team and also small odds to the weaker clubs so if a gambler is not knowledge enough you end up choosing the small odds taking it as a sure odds.

But then what I like most is to bet on live games that way I can easily predict the outcome of the match and my chances of winning will be higher than expected.

Hard to say. Mostly I do multibets and often the odds are far from reasonable (let's say not 3-4 but 6-10 and higher), but it seems to me that I am more often lucky than unlucky. At one time, I made calculations where I took into account how successfully I implement free bets regarding a strategy where I would always bet on odds of 2 and get 50% on average and it turned out that I surpassed such a strategy.

The odds are being dictated by the bettor, so there's a big chance of wining if the odds is fair and great.
Though, you can just have a simple analysis before you bet since this is Soccer, you can easily search about the strength of your team and have a confidence of having a good bet. This is gambling after all, and your goal to have more Bitcoin by the next bull run might not be easy, I wish you nothing but luck.

If you are here in the forum, you can already find threads on every sports you want to bet with.
There are so many discussions and you can already get good insights about what may possibly happen to the match.
Low odds is not a guarantee that you can win, it still depends on the actual performance of the team.
But you can always follow some users here in the forum where they will give their picks and are willing to discuss about it.

To keep making consistent profits from soccer games, you need not to focast game yourself but you need people around to share there knowledge about a certain match so that there opinion can make you filter your games so that can increase your changes it winning. Sometimes you can ask friends around for there predictions about some matches, you will need to scrupulously select those games you think could win and bet some bets on them. That is one of the best way to predict games will high probability of your winning since the results is always uncertain.

Well to the best of my knowledge, I've  always known gambling as a game of luck and most times wbatbhad kept me going in gambling  is the fact that I don't either expect to win or loss and I also try as much as possible to gamble only with the amount of money I'm willing to loss.
I've got a friend who bets mostly on odds and I think the wins are much more than the losses for him, maybe because I don't witness his losses I guess  but you shouldn't be expecting to get all.the money you need for the next bull run from gambling as that might be putting some unnecessary  pressure on yourself and might lead to blowing of your account.
Just take things easy and enjoy every moment.

personally, I believe that this approach is wrong because you are choosing the results based on the odds and not so much based on their real probability of "winning".
change your strategy...don't play odds "because it's a value you like" but instead play events that you think are likely to happens, this definitely change your approach to gambling and your winning chance.

In general, after analyzing my bets, I noticed that I lost on average 1 every 10/12 events (obviously it depends on the odds, but in general I always avoid playing "too unreal" results).

when you are going to place a bet do not think about placing bets with very low odds like odds of @1.50, always look at the two teams, their last 5 games and which players will play, ignore the odds and do your own analysis to see if those odds really make sense, for example there are many games in which one of the teams has an odd of @1.25 but when I do my analyzes I realize that clearly that odd of @1.25 simply doesn't make any sense, because both teams are at the same level, so I don't place bets, but when there are live games in which two teams have a very big difference in terms of performance

but at that moment the very weak team is winning by 2 - 0 and in the statistics they have a more dangerous attack and have an odd of @1.25 so in this scenario it makes a lot of sense to bet on that team, but only see if you place a multibet bet to be able to have much higher odds, it makes no sense to bet on games with low odds, they are not profitable in the long run, ideal are odds above @1.80 in my opinion, in the past I was betting on those games that have low odds and all my bankroll ran out, no matter how many wins I had, it would be enough to have a few losses for me to have losses

I don't think it's smart to place bets based on odds alone... odds can deceive us! My betting on sports is colorful... I have many won & lost parlays and single bets. I also prefer betting on football (soccer), it's what I follow, simply it's the sport of my choice. But even with some knowledge and experience, it's hard to maintain a winning streak! So after a few good bets and wins I usually get into a red streak...

I think it's possible to make some profit with sports betting, at least for people with patience and some plan (which I don't have, but that's another story) it's possible to make some profit in the long run. Choosing the games and making breaks between bets can be a very smart move, who can do it.

In the end, if you don't try it you will not know if that works for you or not! So give it a go!

Betting based on odds alone is as risky as betting with your eyes closed. If you want to improve your skill level, try diving deeper into soccer - talk on sports forums, analyze team and player statistics, watch matches, etc. I, like many others, believe that only a deep dive into sports can improve your betting results. Otherwise, everything depends only on your luck.

I think you’re approaching this the wrong way. The odds of course state the more times you play the more chances you have to win, simply by the numbers, but those odds aren’t at a very high percentage if you’re not very knowledgeable about what you’re betting on.

I mostly bet NFL and NBA, especially the NFL because it’s by far the sport I’m most knowledgeable about and I do quite well each year. I bet say Hockey here and there but I don’t know the game well at all and I often lose, so I stopped doing so. My advice is stop betting soccer.

There are no guarantees in football betting and in most cases 1.50 or 1.70 odds are not the problem but the team itself. While placing sports betting; it is important to check through the team sheet, statistic and overall play before casting a bet on teams because the odds (1-50 and 1.70) never tell the true picture. This is why sometimes you see 10.00 odd scoring 2 goals against a team with 1.13 odds. The odds figure paint a different story

Always check and study the football side stats

For conditions like this, I look at the statistics first because sometimes looking at the odds is a bit deceiving.
It doesn't really matter if you are confident with your bet when the odds are like that, but on the other hand, of course, we need to consider other factors in this case because sometimes odds like this are only likely to occur in a few matches and both of them don't really display a fairly balanced strength or vice versa.
When I'm confident, I'll do just that, for example when Madrid met Manchester City in the semi-finals where Manchester City were odds 1.6x if I'm not mistaken, as well as the Champions League final against Inter.
But if I'm not really sure about my bet, I'd rather skip or play it safe first and see how the game plays out afterwards.

Such a flawed mindset. Although I understand your cause and as much as possible would like to stand behind it, I would highly discourage gambling or betting on sports to earn profits for your bitcoin basket lmao. You'd find that you'll lose more games than you win even with whatever strategy you have in mind, and the only thing that could really secure you profits in this industry is making sure you don't lose what you win. So in that regard, secure your wins, try to bet less, learn which teams you're more comfortable betting on and stick to them so as to make sure you amp your chances of winning even by just a tad margin, and never go beyond your pre-set personal limits.

Gambling for profit is just a massive death wish but I can't really stop you now can I? besides, I think you know what you're doing already, so just make sure that all the pointers I set above are met and you should be good to go at least.

Don't put your faith in gambling to increase your BTC earnings; gambling is unreliable, therefore you should exercise caution while placing bets to prevent losing all of your previously earned BTC. Instead of jeopardizing all you've managed to save, why not just stick with your signature campaign? Working with campaign managers can help you amass a lot of bitcoin quickly.


Don't let losing make you lose hope because that's just how betting is; better days are coming for you. Just do your best to avoid letting your loss affect you or letting greed rule the day. When placing a bet, I take into account a number of other things in addition to what the odds are indicating about the game. Though odds don't always deceive, they can occasionally be misleading.

I actually have a good win rate when it comes to football because I know a lot about it, teams, and players. I can estimate what will happen in a game and place my bets accordingly and most of the time I win. However, I don't include more than 5 games in a combo, usually sticking to 2-3 games, maximum 4.

I aim to find odds of around 4-5 so my potential gain is 5 times what I placed which is pretty good for me. I suggest avoiding random teams that you have no information about and instead look for known football games that offer good odds.

Good luck mate:)

I wouldn’t say I bet solely on the odds alone. However, I do take the odds into account and there have been plenty of times that my decision on which side to place my bet was changed due to the odds. Balancing risk and reward is a major step in gambling and investing and nothing displays this more simply for people than the “odds” of a bet.

Odds don't mean anything unless you know the reason why providers placed it that way. It's not enough to take those numbers in face value, as it depend on the teams and players playing. There are tons of factors that affect the whole game, and the odds providers already took that into account hence why they come up with the odds. You, as the bettor, also needs to know the reason as to how they came up with that number, and figure out whether that is worth the bet or not. You need to know the sport and the teams in order to make money on sports betting.

If i'm only betting based on the odds, then i'd probably lose more because there are a lot of inconsistent teams between different leagues that fail to deliver a win at home and on the road whenever they're a 1.5 - 1.7 favorite. Even with research, i've been struggling to win on favorites with odds around the same range, so you need to learn when it's a trap because it's common to see bookies rate a few teams too high, and then they'll start bottling when you bet on them.

This is where you are getting it twisted because you are focusing and channeling your efforts to earn more bitcoin instead of you to gamble for fun, let me clarify you on something that was happening to me back then when I was desperately gambling to win a huge and a higher amount; I was always losing because I do accumulates some higher odds thinking of that after getting some odds it would all played probably I cash out big time but guess what?

I was always losing till I learned to removed my attention on making big cash out or possibly got rich from gambling I decided to reduced my way of thinking and selection of games precisely soccer. But currently I don't gamble regularly and I don't lose that much maybe if I do the likelihood of winning a game would be higher of losing. Actually those odd aren't that bad for you to lose, so the possibility of winning might be cool with you.

How well do you follow soccer?
For you to win bets in soccer you have to have to a have a certain level of understanding of the sports. If you are just going to bet according to the odds then its going to be more difficult for you to win. Sports betting is very tricky and soccer is among the worst of them. The team with the smaller odd doesn't always win. In fact most times the opposite is the case. Even when the team with the lesser odd wins the odd turns out to be too small and you end up not winning much. At that point you're risking so much to win very little.

Picking teams with 1.50 to 1.70 odds, its not guaranteed you'd win even if that is the smaller odd. So I would advise you not to use odd alone, but try to analyze to match, analyze both teams and see their current performance. Check how the perform at home and how they perform away from home. Check how often the score, both home and away.
One thing other gamblers do that I don't do is check the head-to-head of the teams. I don't know how accurate that may be, but a lot of gamblers do it and it wouldn't hurt to try.
All these are not guarantees that you'll win, but it might improve your chances.
You can also use your intuition to determine.

Gamblers who often see gambling as a way to make money will loose plenty money trying to make more. @OP, if you are trying to get more Bitcoins, winning some from gambling can seem like a way, which is true, but it is not the most advisable place to hope to make money from gambling. Even if you win Bitcoins from gambling today, and gambling by then has already become an uncontrollable habit, it is not impossible that you still gamble away the Bitcoins you win. It takes strong discipline for gamblers to keep what they win.

This is absolutely a bad idea to try to increase your level of betting just because you want to earn more Bitcoin because it has been proven that the more you gamble just to win the more you lose and the more money the casino makes instead you making more (Bitcoin) as you wanted,  there is no way that a gambler will determine the direction the outcome of the bets.

Also, note that even the game with the smallest odds can still give you losses so as that you shouldn't rely on odds to make such stances of winning.

And if care is not taken,  the more games you play the more money you will lose using odds indicators unless luck is on your side consistently.

It's not a smart thing to do but it's your money. Open a thread like stadus did in the last NBA season and update us on the result of your odd-based betting.

I also bet based solely on the odds but I seldom do that. Maybe only 5 or less out of the 38 games in the Premier league. The amount I bet is also not that significant since I understand the risk so it's not really worth counting the wins and losses.

Do not gamble because you want to make more bitcoin (money) for the coming bull run, it is just a way of giving yourself a bad thinking that can make you lose even the ones that you supposed to hold. Gamble with what you can afford to lose, not with bitcoin that you supposed to hold.

It depends on the odd itself and how perfect the match is after making analyses. That last one I took was 2.2 odds. The last one I took before that was 2.4 odds which was in-play. But I bet in a way that I know that I can lose as well. I can go for 1.25 odds, but I can go lesser than that. What that matters before staking is my analyses.

I do not like going for any odd lower than 1.25 odds anymore. Sometimes I like penalties too which can be of at least 1.2 to 1.3 odds for a penalty played. But penalty can be lost too.

I gamble with very little amount of money, so nothing to think about if I lose.

I'm hoping to make more BTC so the more bets from now on the more chances of winning. I think that's what I'm going to do now before the bull run takes full speed.
Regardless of which game. To me, I bet on Soccer but I seem to have lost every day. How often do you win in Soccer games if you just bet based on odds by picking a team with 1.50 and 1.70?