Topic: YourPalsToots AMT user thread. (Read 2050 times)

@loshia

Again you have proven you are totally full of shit and just are a waste of space here. I cant stop you from posting. But it just shows that you honestly don't know shit other than to tell other people how they should spend their money. As far as I am concerned the PSUs I bought cost me 0$. I am getting the money back anyway one way or the other. I spent nothing in getting them at the end of the day. I know how the system works and can work it in my favor and do frequently and legally.

PS: Go away troll. Oh and if you decide to reply with more useless shit,  I will just make it my mission on this forum to make you look like a complete and utter ass in every fucking thread you reply to until you just fade away or actually contribute something useful. I will be your own personal troll. And you will not like it. This is me being nice. My mean side takes alot to show itself, but just because you are useless I hate nothing more than useless people, I will make it my mission to make sure the whole community sees you as useless until you either prove yourself otherwise or go away.

How about you to stop spending money for nothing
300 usd saved is not helpful. If it is not I can do nothing more helpful
Sorry
Zipkin poserko
It is about time you to show up and add something helpful will you
You are the one who should help not me.  

How about you add something new and helpful?

Dude,
Do not spend your money for nothing.
Why do you think poserkoto Zipkin is so silent. He do not ever bother to delete my posts any more.
He is just shipping crap and he knows it!
That is all. Said....it is beyond very border that can be crossed

I too think it may be the PSU. I have another PSU arriving today. It has 6 - 12v / 30a rails.


I do know that one module is for sure bad. There isn't any smoke but I can smell it.

As I said post your pool speed graph and number of modules?
Again licking Amt ass will not bring your money back nore speed your rma
 
But you can buy more psu's for sure the crap is a crap that is all

As I thought exactly you are a troll and still useless You still cant prove me wrong. And havent. Until you do you are exactly what you have proven yourself to be 

Really   
Go back to university dude

Ok again...you said alot but nothing useful....WHY is it not the PSU then? Explain with a technical reason besides saying their hardware is crap. You have given no technical reason for it. Just that its crap. And suppose I do get the PSU and it works? then what? What have you said or done to prove me wrong here? That is the point I am making. Yes I spend my money. But at the same time its also a tax write off OR I can return it either way I get my money back for the PSUs. US Govt will give it back to me as its a legitimate business expense in taxes. So I am not concerned. I don't have the "high degree" but I do have information and look at the available data to base my conclusions on. Not a long explanation.

I dont mind being wrong. its how I learn. But show me WHY I am wrong and WHERE with an explanation that goes beyond its crap. I am willing to accept the hardware is broken. BUT I have not gotten to that point. It powers up and is picked up by the operating system. Which means something is working correctly. Its just the hashing that's not happening (consistently) which could be due to a power problem as I have already suspected. Again SHOW ME HOW I AM WRONG. Because you have not been able to do that from a technical standpoint. Explain why the PSU I have (LEPA 1600W) should work but doesnt. Go into as much detail as possible. Otherwise you just are proving my point about how you contribute nothing to this discussion. I am at least helping out the other people on here who got miners as much as I can. I dont have to. I could be just like you and lol at their even worse situation. I was fortunate to get two intact systems so I am willing to share that knowledge to help them out.

You have not done that. All you do is come on here and ask for stats and when it doesnt meet your standards you basically lol at them and say return or sue. How the fuck does that help them? It doesnt. Is AMT responsible for helping them out? YES! Are they doing that now? NO! But figure the community can step up. Or at least I will because I care about my fellow human beings I dont leave them to "die" and then kick them while they are down by laughing at them as you have essentially been doing.


Then fucking tell us or shut the fuck up. You have been saying that and said that before. I am calling you out here. Explain in detail. Because you talk alot of shit but have not backed up a single word of it with something concrete. Just more shit. IF you can do that then you have at least proven you can be useful. Otherwise you have proven my point and fit the perfect definition of a troll and flamebait.

Again opieum2 ,

I asked simple question and i got very long explanation that AMT stuff works as always but not your blades....I am not laughing at you
I can tell you that it is not PSU 100%
However fill free to spend 300+ USD for the second time i do not mind....
But then i will laugh loudly because my statement that Zipkin poserkoto is giving the crap in person will come true 

Again Loshia contribute something instead of useless comments since that is the only thing you have done throughout the entire AMT thing. You have not contributed anything but I told you so type comments...of course its obvious the systems aren't working properly. BUT looking carefully through the various comments, in not one situation is anyone running things as AMT recommends and they did make recommendations. The PSU is not one of the 3 they recommend which I imagine they tested with....OR the power requirements are met. The PSU situation is the case with me. The cards show up just fine. BUT the lepas on a per rail basis do not feed enough amperage to the cards. Those cards require alot more it appears. In my case all but a couple of chips are showing up. BUT not hashing. This is due to power. That much is obvious just on reading up on it. Once I get the new PSUs I will know for sure. The ones I got are the rosewills recommended by AMT. So if they still don't work properly after that (with the power sags not occurring on my electrical just on the system) I will be contacting AMT to address this. As its consistent on both systems its likley not both of them. The machines do hash for a while before they start experiencing this problem. But they dont sustain it. This is usually a power issue in my experience with other power hungry electronics. 

Obviously amt systems are not working dude!
Will you be so kind to share how your systems are working?
Pool graph preferably.
Thank you very much in advance

I will take a look to see what I can find out. My thought is the power supply might be the problem. Even though it has 104A on a single rail....that might be the issue in and of itself. I ran into a problem with my Lepa 1600W and had to replace it recently. I had to relegate to PC. I ordered a pair of these instead.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=17-182-251

I was seeing power sags with my lepas that I could not explain as I knew the electrical was fine. Figured I had some extra on my budget so I shelled out for the ones above. I will post back more though once i have them. THe performance on the lepas was good BUT not as consistent. I was sure it was not the hardware in this case. FYI that rosewill was one of 3 models AMT actually recommended. They obviously had their systems working with those so I am going on that recommendation. Also the amps on those are more in line with our needs for these miners. I will know more once i have them. But chances are its the PSU in this case. Like I said. It kinda sucks because its a bit of trial and error. BUT it will help others out at least.

I have 20a circuits.

I have the backplane plugged in.

When I power up the PSU the Raspberry Pi controller PWR light come on. After a few moments the internet connection lights turn green. Then a few moments later the fans spin up.

I am plugging the modules in one at a time and only one.

I have it set to power save mode.

1. I plug in module 1. See if it works. unplug it
2. I plug in module 2. See if it works. unplug it.

and I go down the line for all 5 modules.

all 5 do not respond.

I'm not sharing any rails right now. I have one 12v going to one module. It's one cable from the PSU to one module. That's it.

The connection on the power supply is 12v 104a.

Can you detail the process you are following? This might help in figuring out what is going on. Are you powering up a single blade...then a second....then a third?

There is alot of unknown information here so it will make it harder to figure out where your issue is. First the AMP question....what is your AMP draw on the circuit? To find that you go to the breaker box and look up the switch. If you are in the US it should say 15a, 20a or 30a. Could just be the numbers without the letter.

Secondly how are you hooking them up? Test each one individually first...if you get similar results that's a good sign each board works.  After that hook up a second board and see if you get similar results. Do this all in powersave to start with. Don't ratchet up speeds at all at this point. Hook up a third board and then 4th and 5th. Until the 0Ghs issue rears its ugly head. Again make sure NOTHING else is on that circuit where the miner is plugged in. IF so unplug it all. If there is a question of whats on the circuit go to the breaker box and switch off the circuit to see what is going on (And PLEASE be using a surge protector with your miner or you will fry it soon as it comes back on or you will have a paperweight after you flip the circuit back on).

I am covering everything just in case. I don't know your knowledge level so please don't be offended if I say something that is so basic and obvious, you would be surprised how often even advanced users miss the basic stuff.

DO things in small steps. Don't go for the big mining yet until you can determine why its not mining. I am relatively certain its a power problem but again without the questions answered above noone here can help you better address this.

To sum up:
Power single blade up in powersave mode.
Power 2 blades up in powersave mode.
power 3 blades up in powersave mode.
do this until you get to 5 working blades OR 0GHs issue. If 0Ghs issue then its almost certainly the PSU at that point. It might have a shared rail in which case I recommend getting an 8pin EPS to PCIe 6+2 pin connector (frozencpu sells them).

Also so far it seems you have only been able to get 2 cards working is that right?

Now I'm back to nothing. All blades reporting 0.

I'm thinking maybe it's the backplane or something.

185 on powersave is good. Not great but good. So its workable. Its a starting point but  also is starting to confirm what I said earlier about it being a power issue.

So if you start to see the problem after 2 or 3 blades its either your PSU or your circuit. The circuit draw is the one unknown here. Is it a 20A or a 15A circuit? They usually are labled. This is where a killawatt meter comes in real handy.

I did this previously and the blade that is now running at ~185 first reported 0. I did each blade individually one by one.

OK. "Power save" is on and the single blade is running ~185

Great now that you have some results start to plug in others one by one until you get some results. If you can get them working at a base speed then its def a power issue you need to address in your electical system.
Basically plug them in until you the 0GHs thing happens again. I have asked around and based on the bitmine forums as well this is a power problem.

here it is on Eligius

http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/15XZocSHwnfA6o7bxX9iRvLAxzzCZVSrBV

Throttle down the setting to power save then on that single blade and see if it hashes at its base spec. Basically 1/5th of 1THs is what you are looking for. About 200Ghs is what should be getting +/-10Ghs Then throttle up on native then turbo to see the results. Check Johnnyguru.com for your PSU to see if it has a shared 12V rail also could be another reason for problems.

OK. NOW I have a blade that previously reported 0Ghs now running at ~180 Gh/s

Only one blade is plugged in.

More power? I only have one blade plugged in.

Based on what I am seeing you dont have enough power going into the PSU. If you have other stuff on the circuit for that miner it might be causing you issues. ALSO check that its a 20A circuit. Check your breaker box. If you are on a 15A circuit it might be the reason you are seeing those problems.

Also try to run it at powersave mode in the interface unless you know how to work the SSH console and can enter the right cgminer settings. If you are not familiar with linux then use the web interface.

Again this is where Tooltime logic applies....MORE POWER. This is just the nature of ASICs at this point. Some are more power friendly than others. This one is not one of them. But make sure you are pulling 20A at the wall and make sure its the ONLY thing on that circuit. Note not the outlet. The circuit. You need to know what is on that circuit and take it off for this to work. These things belong in a datacenter.

no

The raspberry pi is very fickle. It is attached to another board but always seems to move round. I shut off the power, checked all the connections and fired it back up again. This time the IP address shows up and I can't log into the interface but no modules show up and I'm hashing at zero.

You have a temperature sensor? 

Not sure what happened but the fans are back spinning but now the web interface is not working so I can't see if it hashing at all.

and now it's entirely dead.

fans stopped spinning. modules are all at zero

nothing but a light on the raspberry pi

and with a >POP< goes module 1

I was very excited to see the first one hashing at 190. Then came the disappointment of 2 and 3. Then 4 climbed up but stopped at 100.

so far this is a $6,000 ant s1.

Hmmmm.... not looking good.

OK. My 4-pin to molex cable has arrived and the blade testing has started.

I am only plugging them in one at a time for testing purposes.

Module 1 - ~190 Gh/s
Module 2 - 0 Gh/s
Module 3 - 0 Gh/s
Module 4 - ~100 Gh/s
Module 5 - 0 GH/s

No. He never responded.

Did mell replied what is it....?
You can ask in bitmine threads. The Psb is copy paste from there.

With no documentation from AMT I'm not 100% sure what it is. The fans supplied on the unit have 3-pin connectors which worked by plugging them into the 4-pin connector on the controller.

You can buy any cheap fan and just rip the cable
Make sure it is Pvm fan
It is a cable fan- connector right?

The company I ordered to 4-pin cable from just called. They are out of stock and will take 2-3 more days for that particular part to arrive in their warehouse. I asked if they had anything else that would work. They found a Y cable that they would will work and they are sending it instead. The price for the new cable is more expensive but they are price matching it and sending it anyway. I received a lot better customer service for a 93 cent part than I did after spending 6 grand.

There is only one needed for the backplane.

No idea..........I have 6 Antminers & 3 GPU's & 1 Gridseed coming to play with  

I got a bunch of those if anyone needs one,two,three  

How many of these are needed for the backplane?

These AMT folks are insane!  What do they hope to achieve by shipping miners that need assembly without instructions?

No problem,I have a bunch if anyone wants em     Got some with the male 4pin molex too.

Thanks but I've already made an order. Thinking back I should've made a bulk order for all the other AMT victims.

Maybe I should make a "AMT fixit kit" with all the parts that should had been included in the first place.

Hell,if you need a "whip",the connector & whatever inches of wire length,I can send ya a few from old dead PSU's I have layin around 

PM me & you pay shipping,problem solved 

That sucks. Do you have any pc recyclers in your area? I probably have a dozen or so around in old computers. Another option would be to use an older psu for the back-plane and build a null cable  so both psu's start at the same time. just throwing around some ideas. I'd like to see you up and running.

So the part that I need is a molex to 4-pin connector. I've found it online for $.93 but in order it to get here in a decent amount of time, shipping will cost $12.50.

Jesus what a mess, remove that topic

So no 4-pin connectors at the local Frys. Typical for them since they only carry half the stuff you need half the time you need it.

I may have a 4-pin someone in an old machine somewhere.

AMT, it really sucks you didn't included the proper cables or any documentation.

No.

No manual.

No instructions.

No chicken scratch on a bar napkin.

Nothing.

From what I can see in your picture it looks like only 1 board is salvageable. it looks like the others are separated from the heat sinks. From the sounds of things you want perfect contact to dissipate the heat. very hard to tell from the photo though. Honestly if it was me I would just pack the whole thing back up and send it back. Even if I had to pay the shipping, I would not want to be responsible for trying to fix that.

You are kidding about the manual, aren't you? They have had a broken web portal up for months that is supposed to have all this info in it. They paid for a video that was sent out to editing about a month and a half ago that still hasn't seen the light of day. They said on friday that by the end of the day they would post details on setting these things up but instead decided to open 2 new threads and lock the old one and then disappear on us again. I didn't opt for the kit because I feared something like this happening and was not willing to forgo my rights to a working, profitable miner due to AMT's incompetence.

Why are all these connectors a mystery?

Isn't there a manual somewhere?

Regtable said it is a floppy drive connector that powers the back-plane.

Good you got it working... hope I can get mine working with your help!

Anyway,  this is what I got when they shipped it:



I may be able to salvage 3 boards... the other two have their power connectors ripped out due to shipping... hope AMT gives will let me RMA the boards.

Or possibly a fan connector maybe?

An old floppy drive power connector   It says 5v on the right,which would possibly correspond to that type connector...........

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html#floppy

PM sent. Hopefully I can get this connection identified so I can start testing blades.

Pm mell he made it I am sure he can give you a hand.there is a video of his miner also
I can't unfortunately...

Not plugging in all 5 yet. I'm only will go one by one until the other power supply shows up.

Your psu can provide 104 Amps on 12V only. Not good....for 5 modules
about conector, other folks know maybe?
Guy's?

Does anybody know what this connector is?

Ok. I've added a real power supply to the equation.

The power supply I'm using.



The connections on the fans are 3 pin. On the the controller board there are two set of connectors that may be for the fans. Since there are no instructions or tech support from AMT who knows which one will work. The 3-pin fans only work in the 4-pin connectors on the control board.



The power is turned on, the lights come on, and after a few moments the fans spin.

So far so good.



Next up are the blades. But first I have to find a long ethernet cable.

be back shortly.

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I will be restoring old photo posts here.

In the meantime I will move forward with testing my AMT 1.2 miner.

Thx for your patience.

Since AMT locked the other thread. I will posting about me getting my AMT 1.2 miner working here.