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SELLING CLOUD ACCOUNTS - (AZURE / AWS / LINODE / HETZNER / GOOGLE CLOUD) Invites & Accounts
Will the aws accounts last a month?
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n/a | Manojdaran | July 16, 2020, 01:17:12 AM |
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Selling Hetzner, Vultr, Azure, Digital Ocean, Google Cloud, Linode Invites & Accounts
Azure is for student or pay as you go account
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n/a | Manojdaran | July 16, 2020, 01:15:28 AM |
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[WTS]###-high quality azure /ibm /aws /ovh /scaleway /and more-### Invites & Accounts
Bought 3 accounts and all worked. Wen the first one got blocked within sometime,…
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n/a | Manojdaran | July 16, 2020, 12:14:48 AM |
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###-high quality azure /ibm /aws /ovh /atlantic /scaleway /and more-### Invites & Accounts
Buying an account from the seller via btc.TBF
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n/a | Manojdaran | July 03, 2020, 09:52:15 AM |
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###-high quality azure /ibm /aws /ovh /atlantic /scaleway /and more-### Invites & Accounts
Is it credit based or free for a month if I buy from you?
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n/a | Manojdaran | July 02, 2020, 08:37:22 PM |
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###-high quality azure /ibm /aws /linode /atlantic /scaleway /and more-### Invites & Accounts
Aws is educate version?
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n/a | Manojdaran | July 02, 2020, 02:47:40 AM |
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Help setting up monitors for Mining at home Mining (Altcoins)
Thanks for the suggestion, will update once everything is set up
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n/a | Manojdaran | November 05, 2018, 10:55:39 AM |
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[ANN] BitcoinX (BCX) - Future Society Proof Cryptocurrency Announcements (Altcoins)
There are no deposit options in Exchanges? Why?
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n/a | Manojdaran | November 04, 2018, 10:10:03 AM |
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Help setting up monitors for Mining at home Mining (Altcoins)
Just install teamviewer or liteserver/viewer and control the rigs remotely . Thi…
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n/a | Manojdaran | November 04, 2018, 07:48:49 AM |
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Help setting up monitors for Mining at home Mining (Altcoins)
Just install teamviewer or liteserver/viewer and control the rigs remotely . Thi…
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n/a | Manojdaran | November 04, 2018, 07:47:24 AM |
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Help setting up monitors for Mining at home Mining (Altcoins)
Hey guys, I was mining for a year now, my rigs are placed at a store room in my…
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n/a | Manojdaran | November 04, 2018, 06:41:38 AM |
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BCU1525 Surfaces Online - First images Mining (Altcoins)
Today, I have come across these pics and they are legitimate [Dev confirmed]. So…
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n/a | Manojdaran | September 25, 2018, 12:37:45 AM |
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ALLMINE INC - FPGA Cryptominer Mining (Altcoins)
UPDATE:I'm currently operating our lyra2z design with 75W power consumption for…
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n/a | Manojdaran | September 19, 2018, 10:17:31 PM |
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EWBF's Cuda Equihash Miner 0.5 Mining (Altcoins)
All the shares are rejected! Tried different pools yet all the shares are reject…
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n/a | Manojdaran | September 11, 2018, 08:31:57 PM |
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EWBF's Cuda Equihash Miner 0.5 Mining (Altcoins)
All the shares are rejected! Tried different pools yet all the shares are reject…
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n/a | Manojdaran | September 11, 2018, 07:09:17 AM |
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DIY FPGA Mining rig for any algorithm with fast ROI Mining (Altcoins)
Rule #1 on this forum: Don't believe anything a newbie account has to say unles…
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n/a | Manojdaran | September 04, 2018, 09:13:04 PM |
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[ATTENTION] CVP 13 - Most Powerful FPGA ever Mining (Altcoins)
lol, do you think BCU1525 can earn back the investment in its life time?You thin…
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n/a | Manojdaran | August 31, 2018, 09:35:42 PM |
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[ATTENTION] CVP 13 - Most Powerful FPGA ever Mining (Altcoins)
Im waiting for some VCUs as well, lets see how it turns out to be
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n/a | Manojdaran | August 31, 2018, 08:40:50 PM |
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CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded NVIDIA Maxwell / Pascal kernels. Mining (Altcoins)
X16r/X16s/C11 Spmod-git #10 has been released- Fixed double nonce submission in…
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n/a | Manojdaran | August 31, 2018, 09:51:48 AM |
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[ATTENTION] CVP 13 - Most Powerful FPGA ever Mining (Altcoins)
Developers are working around the clock but Im sure they will release bitstreams…
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n/a | Manojdaran | August 31, 2018, 03:51:45 AM |
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[ATTENTION] CVP 13 - Most Powerful FPGA ever Mining (Altcoins)
There is a new FPGA in town. CVP 13 - A bittware product currently pre sale on m…
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n/a | Manojdaran | August 31, 2018, 01:20:14 AM |
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DIY FPGA Mining rig for any algorithm with fast ROI Mining (Altcoins)
Do you think there will be many multi-card (or too-big-for-BCU) bitstreams? It s…
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n/a | Manojdaran | August 31, 2018, 12:53:45 AM |
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Good time to buy GPUs? Mining (Altcoins)
Hope the nvidia surprises everyone with a massive performance boost. The situati…
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n/a | Manojdaran | August 17, 2018, 06:51:30 AM |
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Nvidia announces GeForce RTX 2080 Mining (Altcoins)
This cards will not be non-miner GPUs?I've read somethings like that before. Nvi…
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n/a | Manojdaran | August 16, 2018, 07:44:18 AM |
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Nvidia announces GeForce RTX 2080 Mining (Altcoins)
Looks like they are gonna release 2070 and 2060 in the next months after 2080
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n/a | Manojdaran | August 16, 2018, 07:43:10 AM |
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Nvidia announces GeForce RTX 2080 Mining (Altcoins)
Its official finally. Only the name could differ. An official video suggests the…
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n/a | Manojdaran | August 14, 2018, 10:23:35 PM |
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ASIC Miners India Import Discussion Marketplace (Altcoins)
There had been lots of hassles in the Indian customs regarding this ASIC miners…
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n/a | Manojdaran | August 06, 2018, 02:23:59 AM |
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DIY FPGA Mining rig for any algorithm with fast ROI Mining (Altcoins)
@whitefire990, Once I get the cards, do I need to program for each card or just…
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n/a | Manojdaran | July 26, 2018, 08:30:35 AM |
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[ANN] ⭐ SnowGem ⭐ First Equihash ⭐ zkSNARKs ⭐ Masternode ⭐ PoW ⭐ ASIC Resistant Announcements (Altcoins)
Anyone using funakoshi miner? Im getting the error "Worker Not Authorized". Pool…
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n/a | Manojdaran | July 26, 2018, 12:16:09 AM |
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DIY FPGA Mining rig for any algorithm with fast ROI Mining (Altcoins)
Im really a noob please bear with me if it looks silly. I looked at this model "…
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n/a | Manojdaran | July 25, 2018, 08:29:17 AM |
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Bytom Mining - ASIC algorithm now cracked by GPU miners? Big profits? Mining (Altcoins)
If I mine BTM, I will be getting as Coins or Tokens? What difference does it mak…
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n/a | Manojdaran | July 25, 2018, 12:38:34 AM |
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Good time to buy GPUs? Mining (Altcoins)
Totally agree. Only started mining ETH end of last year. Then the difficulty spi…
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n/a | Manojdaran | July 24, 2018, 09:05:56 PM |
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[ANN] Moac | A Revolutionary Blockchain Architecture (ICO June 20 - July 5) Tokens (Altcoins)
Im mining in this pool https://moac.bylt.gq It is finding blocks often but none…
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n/a | Manojdaran | July 24, 2018, 12:05:06 AM |
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Good time to buy GPUs? Mining (Altcoins)
Be prepared to mine and not sell until the time is right. That may be a year fr…
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n/a | Manojdaran | July 23, 2018, 11:24:15 PM |
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Good time to buy GPUs? Mining (Altcoins)
Read something lately. [Must be a rumour] Nvidia decided to launch the new GPUs…
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n/a | Manojdaran | July 23, 2018, 06:11:01 AM |
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Good time to buy GPUs? Mining (Altcoins)
Right now you'll make minus $0.96 running a A3 this is what asics do to profits…
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n/a | Manojdaran | July 21, 2018, 08:30:09 AM |
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Good time to buy GPUs? Mining (Altcoins)
Say, ASICs have dominated the crypto world. ASIC miners usually become obsolete…
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n/a | Manojdaran | July 21, 2018, 12:01:52 AM |
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Good time to buy GPUs? Mining (Altcoins)
How do you think the algo diff will be on par with the yet to release new gpus?…
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n/a | Manojdaran | July 20, 2018, 10:32:21 PM |
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Good time to buy GPUs? Mining (Altcoins)
Been mining for almost 1.5 years now. As time goes, so is my GPU count. Built 2…
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n/a | Manojdaran | July 19, 2018, 09:43:24 PM |
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[ANN] Moac | A Revolutionary Blockchain Architecture (ICO June 20 - July 5) Tokens (Altcoins)
Someone pls reply. I dont know how to set up the wallet. Is it ok to mine direct…
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n/a | Manojdaran | July 05, 2018, 10:12:47 PM |
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[ANN] Moac | A Revolutionary Blockchain Architecture (ICO June 20 - July 5) Tokens (Altcoins)
How to use the wallet?
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n/a | Manojdaran | July 05, 2018, 01:31:16 AM |
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CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded NVIDIA Maxwell / Pascal kernels. Mining (Altcoins)
Why should I use this PHI2 miner and get 7.1 MH/s on 80% tdp if there is a free…
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n/a | Manojdaran | July 04, 2018, 09:19:40 PM |
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[ANN] [XDNA]Revolution in mining|POW|Dual Mining|BitGun|T.N.T. [XDNA][ANN] Announcements (Altcoins)
That's one of the coolest Wallet designs in a long time. Keep it up guys. Please…
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n/a | Manojdaran | June 22, 2018, 09:29:33 PM |
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[ANN] KEYCO [KEC] - CHATBOT AND CRYPTOCURRENCY *POW*MASTERNODES 90%*CPU*ASIC RES Announcements (Altcoins)
Guys do you have the link to the Ccminer Tribus SpMod2?Following
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n/a | Manojdaran | May 05, 2018, 09:29:39 PM |
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⚡⚡⚡ LUMEN ANN ⚡ LEN ⚡ MASTERNODES ⚡ NEOSCRYPT ⚡⚡⚡ Announcements (Altcoins)
Chain split. Multiple chains on explorer 2 same blocks 7307.Exchange on diff. ch…
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n/a | Manojdaran | May 02, 2018, 09:08:49 PM |
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Suprnova finding blocks slower than ever? Mining (Altcoins)
I agree, but the reward finding time is nowhere near to what the dev said. Even…
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n/a | Manojdaran | April 25, 2018, 02:14:05 AM |
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Suprnova finding blocks slower than ever? Mining (Altcoins)
I dont know if its just me or the entire mining community. For the past week, I…
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n/a | Manojdaran | April 24, 2018, 09:29:34 PM |
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ASUS B250 Mining Expert MB - 19 Cards! Mining (Altcoins)
Strange.Using win10 and 13 amd 570 nitro+.Grt. Im on W10 1709 5x1060 11x1070What…
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n/a | Manojdaran | April 17, 2018, 09:06:27 PM |
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ASUS B250 Mining Expert MB - 19 Cards! Mining (Altcoins)
Strange.Using win10 and 13 amd 570 nitro+.Grt. Im on W10 1709 5x1060 11x1070I am…
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n/a | Manojdaran | April 17, 2018, 09:04:51 PM |
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ASUS B250 Mining Expert MB - 19 Cards! Mining (Altcoins)
Strange.Using win10 and 13 amd 570 nitro+.Grt. Im on W10 1709 5x1060 11x1070
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n/a | Manojdaran | April 17, 2018, 11:34:34 AM |
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ASUS B250 Mining Expert MB - 19 Cards! Mining (Altcoins)
The graph is from the pool, I get it. From your miner on your pc, I am talking a…
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n/a | Manojdaran | April 17, 2018, 11:28:04 AM |
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ASUS B250 Mining Expert MB - 19 Cards! Mining (Altcoins)
The graph is from the pool, I get it. From your miner on your pc, I am talking a…
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n/a | Manojdaran | April 17, 2018, 11:17:00 AM |
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ASUS B250 Mining Expert MB - 19 Cards! Mining (Altcoins)
No matter how many cards this MB can support, it is just a bad mobo when it come…
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n/a | Manojdaran | April 17, 2018, 11:11:16 AM |
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ASUS B250 Mining Expert MB - 19 Cards! Mining (Altcoins)
No matter how many cards this MB can support, it is just a bad mobo when it come…
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n/a | Manojdaran | April 17, 2018, 06:44:24 AM |
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ASUS B250 Mining Expert MB - 19 Cards! Mining (Altcoins)
No matter how many cards this MB can support, it is just a bad mobo when it come…
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n/a | Manojdaran | April 17, 2018, 06:41:10 AM |
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Any chance market bounce back to where it was Speculation (Altcoins)
I think its really a good sign for the past 10 days or so. Steady increase.. let…
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n/a | Manojdaran | April 17, 2018, 06:37:01 AM |
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ASUS B250 Mining Expert MB - 19 Cards! Mining (Altcoins)
No matter how many cards this MB can support, it is just a bad mobo when it come…
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n/a | Manojdaran | April 16, 2018, 07:25:21 AM |
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Any chance market bounce back to where it was Speculation (Altcoins)
If this trend continues, at one point miners will have to run for their electric…
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n/a | Manojdaran | March 30, 2018, 02:06:34 AM |
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[ANN] Pigeoncoin (PGN) – a cryptocurrency network with a new X16S (shuffle) algo Announcements (Altcoins)
Exchanges listing timeline?
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n/a | Manojdaran | March 28, 2018, 09:12:45 AM |
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Any chance market bounce back to where it was Speculation (Altcoins)
For 2 months, market is not consistent. In the past, I have seen worse but the m…
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n/a | Manojdaran | March 26, 2018, 11:38:29 AM |
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Any chance market bounce back to where it was Speculation (Altcoins)
Depends what you mean by "where it was"? If you mean the December bubble, then t…
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n/a | Manojdaran | March 26, 2018, 08:51:24 AM |
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Any chance market bounce back to where it was Speculation (Altcoins)
Like many said the G20 summit will spill the difference? If so April month will…
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n/a | Manojdaran | March 26, 2018, 07:14:03 AM |
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Any chance market bounce back to where it was Speculation (Altcoins)
For 2 months, market is not consistent. In the past, I have seen worse but the m…
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n/a | Manojdaran | March 26, 2018, 01:13:03 AM |
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[ANN][RS] RareShares - NeoScrypt | Low supply | 🚀MasterNodes🚀 PRE-SALE !!! Announcements (Altcoins)
.tk? I think I better stay away from this one
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n/a | Manojdaran | March 02, 2018, 09:56:23 PM |
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[ANN] VIZEH [VZH] MASTERNODES - TOKEN PLATFORM - SMARTCONTRACTS - POS 3.0 Announcements (Altcoins)
Looks good. Following
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n/a | Manojdaran | February 27, 2018, 09:16:00 PM |
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[ANN] GARLICOIN - Reddit's Garlic Bread Worshiping Currency Announcements (Altcoins)
Selling 150+ coins daily. I might be super dumb if the MN is around the corner.…
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n/a | Manojdaran | February 22, 2018, 06:50:18 AM |
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[ANN][GEN] Genom CryptoCurrency (Smart Contracts. Masternodes.) NoPremine Announcements (Altcoins)
How much coins are you mining guys? for 100Mhs?
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n/a | Manojdaran | February 22, 2018, 02:50:50 AM |
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[ANN] [ZOI] Zoin - Zerocoin based privacy - CPU - No founder's reward - 0.8.7.4 Announcements (Altcoins) |
n/a | Manojdaran | February 21, 2018, 09:52:52 PM |
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[ANN] GARLICOIN - Reddit's Garlic Bread Worshiping Currency Announcements (Altcoins)
Any ideas for masternodes yet?
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n/a | Manojdaran | February 21, 2018, 09:25:11 PM |
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[ANN][FLM] FOLM | PHI1612 |NO ICO | Masternodes | PoW | HIGH ROI Altcoins (Deutsch)
Following. Hope this will be success in the way of LUX
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n/a | Manojdaran | February 21, 2018, 12:57:27 AM |
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✅ [ANN] 01 Coin [ZOC] ♦️POW/Masternodes ♦️ OFFICIAL Announcements (Altcoins)
Dev needs to respond to the community.
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n/a | Manojdaran | February 20, 2018, 01:54:29 AM |
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[ICO][ERISTICA] - P2P Challenge Platform | First ICO in FunTech ✔ Tokens (Altcoins)
Bought some tokens yesterday. Let's see how it goes
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n/a | Manojdaran | February 08, 2018, 02:29:12 AM |
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Why do we have a price drop? Altcoin Discussion
Because new news they say china banned ico and cyptoCan you link us to place wh…
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n/a | Manojdaran | February 07, 2018, 02:01:15 AM |
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Why do we have a price drop? Altcoin Discussion
In addition to that bad news came from India. A minister in India made a press s…
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n/a | Manojdaran | February 02, 2018, 09:19:14 PM |
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[ANN] HERO.org ⭐️⭐️⭐️ - tokenize yourself 📱📱📱 Tokens (Altcoins)
Pre ICO hasnt started as said earlier. The Count down just expired.
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n/a | Manojdaran | January 29, 2018, 04:34:08 AM |
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[ANN] QBIC [QBIC] - Masternodes, PoW, Secure, ASIC Resistance Announcements (Altcoins)
No Block source available. Have 8 active connections still not syncing. Help me…
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n/a | Manojdaran | January 24, 2018, 09:39:57 PM |
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Is regulating Crypto killing the market? Altcoin Discussion
Say, Mining pool servers have been blocked in your country. What will happen the…
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n/a | Manojdaran | January 23, 2018, 08:58:29 AM |
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What other OC program besides Afterburner? Mining (Altcoins)
Afterburner is the best, but I felt Asus GPU Tweak II is good for Equihash in my…
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n/a | Manojdaran | January 23, 2018, 08:34:44 AM |
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Is regulating Crypto killing the market? Altcoin Discussion
We re seeing a lot of things about cryptocurrencies in our daily news. Many coun…
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n/a | Manojdaran | January 23, 2018, 08:29:26 AM |
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[ANN] GOBYTE [GBX] - Masternodes, PoW, Secure, ASIC Resistance, & Decentralized Announcements (Altcoins)
Guys do something. Deposits are still unconfirmed in Cryptopia for days. Some de…
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n/a | Manojdaran | January 18, 2018, 02:17:03 AM |
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[ANN] GOBYTE [GBX] - Masternodes, PoW, Secure, ASIC Resistance, & Decentralized Announcements (Altcoins)
Guys do something. Deposits are still unconfirmed in Cryptopia for days. Some de…
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n/a | Manojdaran | January 17, 2018, 10:20:03 PM |
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[ANN] GOBYTE [GBX] - Masternodes, PoW, Secure, ASIC Resistance, & Decentralized Announcements (Altcoins)
Guys do something. Deposits are still unconfirmed in Cryptopia for days. Some de…
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n/a | Manojdaran | January 17, 2018, 09:18:10 PM |
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Electroneum [ETN] Holders, What is your take? Altcoin Discussion
ETN - the coin that was speculated to make much noise suffered much with this dr…
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n/a | Manojdaran | January 17, 2018, 10:27:54 AM |
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Forget the drop, why isn't difficulty change at all? Altcoin Discussion
It seems that the difficulty of mining did change a little. But the prices are s…
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n/a | Manojdaran | January 17, 2018, 09:43:19 AM |
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Forget the drop, why isn't difficulty change at all? Altcoin Discussion
May be a silly question. All the coins have dropped substantially, but why isn't…
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n/a | Manojdaran | January 17, 2018, 09:30:35 AM |
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GPU causes system freeze Mining (Altcoins)
Decreasing the OC doesnt help. With stock settings, the GPU can last 30 seconds…
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n/a | Manojdaran | January 09, 2018, 11:23:38 AM |
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GPU causes system freeze Mining (Altcoins)
My rigs are running well for days but this error occurred earlier today which I…
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n/a | Manojdaran | January 09, 2018, 06:31:17 AM |
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[ANN] dstm's ZCash / Equihash Nvidia Miner v0.5.8 (Linux / Windows) Mining (Altcoins)
Could some of you guys check your devfee statsTonight I ran 1 of my rigs about 4…
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n/a | Manojdaran | January 07, 2018, 06:44:56 AM |
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EWBF's CUDA Zcash miner Mining (Altcoins)
Seems like GPU0 couldnt give more sols ever. Out of my 9x1070s, 8 gives more sol…
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n/a | Manojdaran | January 07, 2018, 06:39:27 AM |
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[ANN] ccminer 2.2.2 - opensource - GPL (tpruvot) Mining (Altcoins)
Why isnt my total hashrate hit the maximum at all? Its like increasing by 2-4 KH…
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n/a | Manojdaran | January 07, 2018, 06:17:13 AM |
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ASUS B250 Mining Expert MB - 19 Cards! Mining (Altcoins)
Thanks for this informative thread.Do you guys use the 3x atx12v connectors? I b…
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n/a | Manojdaran | January 07, 2018, 06:30:54 AM |
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Supernova Mining ZCL Mining (Altcoins)
Suprnova is weird nowadays. Although the diff have sky rocketed, the mined coins…
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n/a | Manojdaran | January 07, 2018, 06:24:01 AM |
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ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released? Mining (Altcoins)
Another BIOS update within a month. That's new. Let me try this one now
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n/a | Manojdaran | January 04, 2018, 09:20:40 PM |
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Very first tests P104-100: 39 Mh/s ETH; 470 sol/s ZEC - Nice GPU! Mining (Altcoins)
Any chance you could try this with neoscrypt? Looking forward.
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n/a | Manojdaran | January 04, 2018, 09:07:00 PM |
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Asus GPU Tweak II vs MSI Afterburner Mining (Altcoins)
I was using Afterburner for a long time with no issues at all. When I switched t…
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n/a | Manojdaran | January 02, 2018, 03:28:17 AM |
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Can anyone explain to me how ETH will switch to PoS without a fork? Mining (Altcoins) |
n/a | Manojdaran | December 31, 2017, 09:07:26 PM |
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Hashrate not stable in Gtx 1070 Mining (Altcoins)
Ive recently switched to gen2 pcie in the bios settings snd it has sorted a simi…
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n/a | Manojdaran | December 26, 2017, 09:17:56 PM |
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Hashrate not stable in Gtx 1070 Mining (Altcoins)
Based on my research this could be a MOBO problem. Read a lot of stories about t…
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n/a | Manojdaran | December 26, 2017, 01:46:17 AM |
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ASUS B250 Mining Expert MB - 19 Cards! Mining (Altcoins)
No, it was worse in the previous bios too.
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n/a | Manojdaran | December 19, 2017, 09:07:11 AM |
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ASUS B250 Mining Expert MB - 19 Cards! Mining (Altcoins)
Updated the December Bios. Currently on 9 x 1070. With ETHminer, the stability i…
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n/a | Manojdaran | December 19, 2017, 05:04:33 AM |
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