| Content | Score | Started by | Date posted | ||
 |
 |
Gambling sites that accepts affiliation Gambling
PrimeDice.com has an affiliate program on an invitation basis only at this momen…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 21, 2013, 12:57:11 PM |
|
|
|
PrimeDice.com | The New Way to Roll | Lowest House Edge (1%) | Instant Betting Gambling
Any updates on being able to convert Prime Points? Also, Everytime I try to chan…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 21, 2013, 12:49:48 PM |
|
|
|
*FREE BTC* -PrimeDice.com Giveaway Thread - 0.001-0.003 EA *FREE BTC* Games and rounds
https://blockchain.info/tx/845ba4a6cf7250df02de79f70474314ae52006606332bf5c5ee55…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 21, 2013, 02:13:39 AM |
|
|
|
PrimeDice.com | The New Way to Roll | Lowest House Edge (1%) | Instant Betting Gambling
Everyone is claiming they have won quite a bit. But, I have lost more than I hav…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 20, 2013, 04:15:24 PM |
|
|
|
PrimeDice.com | The New Way to Roll | Lowest House Edge (1%) | Instant Betting Gambling
That is JavaScript code.So it is...Anyway it's working now. Thanks.We're working…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 20, 2013, 12:31:26 PM |
|
|
|
Just-Dice : FREE BTC : Play or Invest Service Announcements (Altcoins)
Invest idea is very clever! Lots of cool features, gonna try a few rolls Thanks.…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 19, 2013, 10:40:34 PM |
|
|
|
Just-Dice : FREE BTC : Play or Invest
n/a
Just-Dice : FREE BTC : Play or Invest by n/a
Invest idea is very clever! Lots of cool features, gonna try a few rolls
|
n/a | n/a | |
|
|
|
PrimeDice.com | The New Way to Roll | Lowest House Edge (1%) | Instant Betting Gambling
Has anybody ever won the 99.99% edge?People botting small amounts have won that,…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 19, 2013, 05:51:59 PM |
|
|
|
CoinsVictory.com - Bet Bitcoins on PacMan, Tetris, Snake & Others | 33% Referral Service Announcements
Very cool/refreshing idea, if done correctly this could be pretty big. I see a f…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 19, 2013, 01:52:17 AM |
|
|
|
*FREE BTC* -PrimeDice.com Giveaway Thread - 0.001-0.003 *FREE BTC* Games and rounds
received very fast,Thank's a lotGlad to hear it, next round will go out today mo…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 18, 2013, 01:54:43 PM |
|
|
|
Where's the new forum Theymos? Meta
Realistically it will cost 10k Max to make a new great forum, a lot of users of…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 18, 2013, 01:45:24 PM |
|
|
|
My country's government blocked accounts of online gamblers. Bitcoin Discussion
What country if you don't mind me asking?
|
n/a | Stunna | June 18, 2013, 01:19:22 PM |
|
|
|
PrimeDice.com | The New Way to Roll | Lowest House Edge (1%) | Instant Betting Gambling
No, I mean literally: what have they been betting on? 900% profit is not normal…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 18, 2013, 12:43:23 PM |
|
|
|
[FREE ENTRY] PrimeDice.com 3 BTC Raffle! Beginners & Help
12 days till drawing, make sure you get your entries in! If anyone has any sugge…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 18, 2013, 12:18:50 AM |
|
|
|
*FREE BTC* -PrimeDice.com Giveaway Thread - 0.001-0.003 *FREE BTC* Games and rounds
Maybe a normal faucet, but with the need for a code or the exact URL to get ther…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 18, 2013, 12:17:16 AM |
|
|
|
Another *Potential* Identifying Piece of Evidence on Satoshi Bitcoin Discussion
maybe Satoshi disappears for some reason. maybe he doesnt want the world knows h…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 17, 2013, 12:43:48 PM |
|
|
|
51% attack on all altcoins since Feathercoin happening. Beginners & Help
It's important for bitcoin to learn from these alt-coin experiments. They are ba…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 17, 2013, 12:32:15 PM |
|
|
|
[ANN] cointip bot (version 0.01) here I come Service Announcements
Very cool, nice work. Would be great if you had a verification option, so anothe…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 17, 2013, 12:25:16 PM |
|
|
|
*FREE BTC* -PrimeDice.com Giveaway Thread - 0.001-0.003 *FREE BTC* Games and rounds
Once again, next round will be going out later today. I'm looking to make a bett…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 17, 2013, 12:16:27 PM |
|
|
|
[FREE ENTRY] PrimeDice.com 3 BTC Raffle! Beginners & Help
Great Slogans!!!Let the good times Roll!!!Thanks, open to any suggestions for fu…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 17, 2013, 12:14:53 PM |
|
|
|
PrimeDice.com | The New Way to Roll | Lowest House Edge (1%) | Instant Betting Gambling
I wonder what these guys claming to win so much bet on...Agreed, most posts are…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 17, 2013, 12:07:47 PM |
|
|
|
PrimeDice.com | The New Way to Roll | Lowest House Edge (1%) | Instant Betting Gambling
You'd need a password now. Because while no one can cash out or steal your balan…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 17, 2013, 12:54:20 AM |
|
|
|
Bitcoin gambling apps allowed? Bitcoin Discussion
First off, sorry if this is the incorrect section. Wasn't sure where this would…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 16, 2013, 08:27:26 PM |
|
|
|
PrimeDice.com | The New Way to Roll | Lowest House Edge (1%) | Instant Betting Gambling
QuoteAs a condolence for the downtime, feel free to post your username on the th…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 16, 2013, 05:11:28 PM |
|
|
|
[1 BTC Bounty] What is Bitcoin? Bitcoin Discussion
Winner selected, sent PM!Congrats to eMansipater Wow, thanks Stunna! You know…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 16, 2013, 05:04:50 PM |
|
|
|
*FREE BTC* -PrimeDice.com Giveaway Thread - 0.001-0.003 *FREE BTC* Games and rounds
Once again as promised: https://blockchain.info/tx/8ff47de705a98d310e997efb634ab…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 15, 2013, 07:42:02 PM |
|
|
|
[1 BTC Bounty] What is Bitcoin? Bitcoin Discussion
Winner selected, sent PM!Congrats to eMansipater To a techie: Bitcoin is Mone…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 15, 2013, 06:56:49 PM |
|
|
|
[FREE ENTRY] PrimeDice.com 3 BTC Raffle! Beginners & Help
Still not too late to enter!
|
n/a | Stunna | June 15, 2013, 03:36:38 PM |
|
|
|
[1 BTC Bounty] What is Bitcoin? Bitcoin Discussion
Working on reading through these, make take a little bit longer to pick a winner…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 15, 2013, 03:35:18 PM |
|
|
|
*FREE BTC* -PrimeDice.com Giveaway Thread - 0.001-0.003 *FREE BTC* Games and rounds
Will be going through these shortly. Sorry again for the delay.
|
n/a | Stunna | June 15, 2013, 03:34:00 PM |
|
|
|
PrimeDice.com | The New Way to Roll | Lowest House Edge (1%) | Instant Betting Gambling
We're working on rolling out our loyalty program in the coming days!Preview so f…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 15, 2013, 03:31:15 PM |
|
|
|
[FREE ENTRY] PrimeDice.com 3 BTC Raffle! Beginners & Help
Just to clarify, we are still accepting entries. I'm not sure how much longer we…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 15, 2013, 03:23:19 AM |
|
|
|
*FREE BTC* -PrimeDice.com Giveaway Thread - 0.001-0.003 *FREE BTC* Games and rounds
Sorry for the delay, the next round will be sent within 12hrs most likely.
|
n/a | Stunna | June 15, 2013, 03:17:17 AM |
|
|
|
[1 BTC Bounty] What is Bitcoin? Bitcoin Discussion
Will be picking a winner in about 12-15 hours. Last chance to get entries in.
|
n/a | Stunna | June 15, 2013, 03:13:49 AM |
|
|
|
Are the mods getting paid from this forum? Meta
The mods have been doing everything in their power to keep this forum running sm…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 14, 2013, 08:17:51 PM |
|
|
|
PrimeDice.com | The New Way to Roll | Lowest House Edge (1%) | Instant Betting Gambling
I was at 15 btc yesterday from bitvegas, and I sent a 2.5 btc bet to satoshi dic…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 14, 2013, 03:37:46 PM |
|
|
|
PrimeDice.com | The New Way to Roll | Lowest House Edge (1%) | Instant Betting Gambling
Can I invest in this site? At this moment I still consider PrimeDice to be in a…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 13, 2013, 09:48:05 PM |
|
|
|
[FREE ENTRY] PrimeDice.com 3 BTC Raffle! Beginners & Help
Just a reminder, drawing is June 30th. I may stop accepting entries soon though.
|
n/a | Stunna | June 13, 2013, 01:48:34 PM |
|
|
|
*FREE BTC* -PrimeDice.com Giveaway Thread - 0.001-0.003 *FREE BTC* Games and rounds
I can i still do this Yup Remember to attach your address/other respective info…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 13, 2013, 01:47:29 PM |
|
|
|
[1 BTC Bounty] What is Bitcoin? Bitcoin Discussion
Picking a winner in two more days!
|
n/a | Stunna | June 13, 2013, 01:46:20 PM |
|
|
|
*FREE BTC* -PrimeDice.com Giveaway Thread - 0.001-0.003 *FREE BTC* Games and rounds
Will do next round again today, remember to follow @PrimeDice on twitter for ext…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 13, 2013, 12:40:44 AM |
|
|
|
[FREE ENTRY] PrimeDice.com 3 BTC Raffle! Beginners & Help
1PdrhY7ngQnA7rZwtXFzC3rzS44FMk8mNy@funfactfredThanks, remember to get 10 posts s…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 13, 2013, 12:39:29 AM |
|
|
|
PrimeDice.com | The New Way to Roll | 1% House | Instant Betting Gambling
Stunna, I just wanted to say thanks for primedice. A few weeks ago I made .6 int…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 12, 2013, 09:36:37 PM |
|
|
|
[FREE ENTRY] PrimeDice.com 3 BTC Raffle! Beginners & Help
Just reiterating this, I've updated it so anyone can enter this even at this poi…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 12, 2013, 04:55:16 PM |
|
|
|
Do you think Bitcoin will be used to pay employees? Bitcoin Discussion
I remember there was one company that attempted this and they eventually had to…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 12, 2013, 02:00:43 PM |
|
|
|
New Mac Pro for mining? Beginners & Help
Strongly doubt it will be worthwhile for mining given the pricetag there are bet…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 12, 2013, 01:00:40 PM |
|
|
|
[FREE ENTRY] 3 BTC Raffle! Beginners & Help
19 days to june 30th so no use to join anymore, good luck allI'm going to accept…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 12, 2013, 03:41:22 AM |
|
|
|
Ridiculous obvious shill/bumping of Primedice.com thread Gambling
Hey all, to change your client seed please refer to this:https://bitcointalk.org…
|
n/a | Stunna | May 28, 2013, 06:08:56 PM |
|
|
|
Blockchain.info - Bitcoin Block explorer & Currency Statistics Web Wallets
Piuk,I've been using this wallet since I first discovered bitcoin and just wante…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 12, 2013, 03:05:08 AM |
|
|
|
Bitcoin - The Movie Project Development
Hey,I'm funding a short [~5-10Min] Bitcoin action movie which will hopefully be…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 10, 2013, 02:26:53 AM |
|
|
|
*FREE BTC* -PrimeDice.com Giveaway Thread - 0.001-0.003 *FREE BTC* Games and rounds
~~ i have two other well established twitter accounts with even more followers t…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 11, 2013, 09:29:13 PM |
|
|
|
[FREE ENTRY] 3 BTC Raffle! Beginners & Help
19 days to june 30th so no use to join anymore, good luck allI'm going to accept…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 11, 2013, 09:25:31 PM |
|
|
|
PrimeDice.com | The New Way to Roll | 1% House | Instant Betting Gambling
The run bad streaks are just too horrid on here. I really don't know why. Litera…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 11, 2013, 05:48:35 PM |
|
|
|
Bitcoin - The Movie Project Development
Title: "The ASIC project"here is my small script idea:First, Some abreviationsGB…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 11, 2013, 01:45:10 PM |
|
|
|
[1 BTC Bounty] What is Bitcoin? Bitcoin Discussion
Loving all the answers, having a really hard time narrowing them down to a few p…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 11, 2013, 01:26:04 PM |
|
|
|
*FREE BTC* -PrimeDice.com Giveaway Thread - 0.001-0.003 *FREE BTC* Games and rounds
~~ i have two other well established twitter accounts with even more followers t…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 11, 2013, 01:23:53 PM |
|
|
|
*FREE BTC* -PrimeDice.com Giveaway Thread - 0.001-0.003 *FREE BTC* Games and rounds
I'M CALLING BULLCHIT AN THIS THREAD~=I FOLLOWED THE INSTRUCTIONS AND DID'NT RECI…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 10, 2013, 01:24:32 PM |
|
|
|
PrimeDice.com | The New Way to Roll | 1% House | Instant Betting Gambling
Ohh I'm still on the leaderboard. Someone beat me :p We're toying around with a…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 11, 2013, 01:21:28 PM |
|
|
|
[WTS] 1981 DeLorean DMC-12 Goods
Very lovely car, never seen one out in the wild. Definitely the coolest thing I'…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 10, 2013, 10:49:37 PM |
|
|
|
(WTB) Lamborghini, used. $90,000 to $150,000 USA or Thailand not Orange! Goods
Best of luck in your search for one, buying a luxury car is certainly an excitin…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 10, 2013, 10:44:47 PM |
|
|
|
WTS - my website making $500+/month from google adsense Auctions
Sounds interesting, you won't really get much serious attention though if you ar…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 10, 2013, 10:34:47 PM |
|
|
|
[Auction] MacBook Air :: Latest Model :: i5 :: 4gb RAM :: 13" Auctions
I have a gaming pc but now that I don't play many video games I now use this lap…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 10, 2013, 10:33:05 PM |
|
|
|
Bitcoin - The Movie Project Development
the journalists mom is actually satoshi... endless possibilitiesYeah, we were ce…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 10, 2013, 10:30:23 PM |
|
|
|
PrimeDice.com | The New Way to Roll | 1% House | Instant Betting Gambling
Ah, couldn't resist gambling anymore, +0.05, yay! Rolls seems to sometimes be ta…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 10, 2013, 10:24:44 PM |
|
|
|
Unknown miner growing rapidly in mining % share Mining
If the government was interested in destroying bitcoins they wouldn't be mining…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 10, 2013, 01:29:50 PM |
|
|
|
[FREE ENTRY] 3 BTC Raffle! Beginners & Help
I have to remove myself from this due to a misunderstanding on my part. Sorry f…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 10, 2013, 01:27:08 PM |
|
|
|
PrimeDice.com | The New Way to Roll | 1% House | Instant Betting Gambling
BTC arrived! Thank you Stunna!Was my pleasure, if you have further issues please…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 10, 2013, 01:21:24 PM |
|
|
|
*FREE BTC* -PrimeDice.com Giveaway Thread - 0.001-0.003 *FREE BTC* Games and rounds
There seems to be a suspiciously high number of first posters wanting to take 0.…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 10, 2013, 02:39:24 AM |
|
|
|
[FREE ENTRY] 3 BTC Raffle! Beginners & Help
like this?1D4ucNsg9vbDsqbY6Hb536guF1aDnCuZM4Yes that is fine , worth noting tha…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 10, 2013, 02:36:37 AM |
|
|
|
[1 BTC Bounty] What is Bitcoin? Bitcoin Discussion
Just a reminder, people can enter more than once if they'd like
|
n/a | Stunna | June 10, 2013, 02:34:08 AM |
|
|
|
PrimeDice.com | The New Way to Roll | 1% House | Instant Betting Gambling
Hey Stunna, I have a problem...I sent 0.1 BTC then 0.4 BTC, both of which were n…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 08, 2013, 10:44:57 PM |
|
|
|
[FREE ENTRY] 3 BTC Raffle! Beginners & Help
15vLwCGw3xemzVARQ7vzA6Equ71CVYwQ6hSweet! Thanks, I spend a lot of money at prime…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 08, 2013, 06:46:06 PM |
|
|
|
*FREE BTC* -PrimeDice.com Giveaway Thread - 0.001-0.003 *FREE BTC* Games and rounds
as promised: https://blockchain.info/tx/556f7dc1f117ff7851149850ab0093bdd9f13053…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 08, 2013, 03:46:54 PM |
|
|
|
*FREE BTC* -PrimeDice.com Giveaway Thread - 0.001-0.003 *FREE BTC* Games and rounds
Sorry for the delay, working on the latest batch of them now. I'm pretty far beh…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 08, 2013, 03:21:38 PM |
|
|
|
[FREE ENTRY] 3 BTC Raffle! Beginners & Help
Followed - algibson1Sig done.Bitcoin address - 1ALZmuyX2rxvYsJQcEANkuZf74c7rC2NF…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 08, 2013, 03:20:28 PM |
|
|
|
PrimeDice.com | The New Way to Roll | 1% House | Instant Betting Gambling
Maybe you could set options for how slow & fast you want the rolls to be This w…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 08, 2013, 03:17:44 PM |
|
|
|
[FREE ENTRY] 3 BTC Raffle! Beginners & Help
When I try and post a signature it says "images removed". Not sure how I can sh…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 08, 2013, 12:05:09 AM |
|
|
|
*FREE BTC* -PrimeDice.com Giveaway Thread - 0.001-0.003 *FREE BTC* Games and rounds
We've given away about one bitcoin, will work on going through all the recent en…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 08, 2013, 12:04:20 AM |
|
|
|
PrimeDice.com | The New Way to Roll | 1% House | Instant Betting Gambling
Maybe you could set options for how slow & fast you want the rolls to be This w…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 08, 2013, 12:01:50 AM |
|
|
|
PrimeDice.com | The New Way to Roll | 1% House | Instant Betting Gambling
That's possible, I haven't seen that result at all, it seems to not like our cop…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 07, 2013, 05:59:29 PM |
|
|
|
[1 BTC Bounty] What is Bitcoin? Bitcoin Discussion
Ending in one week, I appreciate all the thoughtful and intelligent answers. Tha…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 07, 2013, 04:03:05 PM |
|
|
|
[FREE ENTRY] 3 BTC Raffle! Beginners & Help
I don't want to take coin from people who likely need it more but I'd like to sa…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 07, 2013, 04:01:26 PM |
|
|
|
*FREE BTC* -PrimeDice.com Giveaway Thread - 0.001-0.003 *FREE BTC* Games and rounds
Next round goes out today Considering just making a bitcoin faucet, would be…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 07, 2013, 04:00:29 PM |
|
|
|
PrimeDice.com | The New Way to Roll | 1% House | Instant Betting Gambling
That's unusual, does the problem persist, or was this a one time error?I closed…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 07, 2013, 03:36:49 PM |
|
|
|
PrimeDice.com | The New Way to Roll | 1% House | Instant Betting Gambling
Stunna, may I suggest that you also publish a hash of future secrets? So we know…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 07, 2013, 02:36:21 AM |
|
|
|
PrimeDice.com | The New Way to Roll | 1% House | Instant Betting Gambling
Stunna, I'm still not on the leaderboard and I have more points than Dickbag. (T…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 06, 2013, 08:08:00 PM |
|
|
|
*FREE BTC* -PrimeDice.com Giveaway Thread - 0.001-0.003 *FREE BTC* Games and rounds
Already entered Twitter giveaway on other thread Thanks, feel free to post yours…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 06, 2013, 05:50:56 PM |
|
|
|
Low Hash Lotto Number 4 by Dabs. Provably Fair. One Week Draws. Gambling
Hey,Very happy to have won but you've been working very hard on this lottery and…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 06, 2013, 12:22:43 AM |
|
|
|
mem's BITCOIN GAMBLING LIST Gambling
PrimeDice, if you fix up your provably fair issue, let me know please Made the r…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 05, 2013, 10:57:51 PM |
|
|
|
PrimeDice.com | The New Way to Roll | 1% House | Instant Betting Gambling
Ok. Client Seed editable. Now provably fair.As for the cash out, your competitor…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 05, 2013, 09:00:51 PM |
|
|
|
[FREE ENTRY] 3 BTC Raffle! Beginners & Help
I'm unsure about mine, can i have 2 different signature?I've also resized it, so…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 05, 2013, 02:51:37 PM |
|
|
|
The richest users on the bitcoin forum Bitcoin Discussion
Interesting list but in my opinion if you are basing it off largest received BTC…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 05, 2013, 02:18:44 PM |
|
|
|
[1 BTC Bounty] What is Bitcoin? Bitcoin Discussion
A bit over a week left till I decide on a winner, lots of great entries. I'll pr…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 05, 2013, 02:15:13 PM |
|
|
|
*FREE BTC* -PrimeDice.com Giveaway Thread - 0.001-0.003 *FREE BTC* Games and rounds
Hello, new to bitcoin, new to this site, and thank you for link to become involv…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 05, 2013, 02:13:11 PM |
|
|
|
[FREE ENTRY] 3 BTC Raffle! Beginners & Help
You must have one of the signatures or you will be disqualified, we are checking…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 05, 2013, 02:11:54 PM |
|
|
|
PrimeDice.com | The New Way to Roll | 1% House | Instant Betting Gambling
Hey all,We've improved our provably fair system. You can now edit your client se…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 05, 2013, 01:43:38 PM |
|
|
|
♛PrimeDice.com | The New Way to Roll | 1% House | Instant Betting | Free BTC Gambling
Haven't received my cashout yet. It says instant. Yet, it has 2 confirmations of…
|
n/a | Stunna | May 18, 2013, 01:55:08 AM |
|
|
|
♛PrimeDice.com | The New Way to Roll | 1% House | Instant Betting | Free BTC Gambling
Sexy site. But no HTTPS? I would like to see security with my coins. Will defini…
|
n/a | Stunna | May 18, 2013, 01:26:48 AM |
|
|
|
*FREE BTC* -PrimeDice.com Giveaway Thread - 0.001-0.003 *FREE BTC* Games and rounds
Received. Thanks. , reminder to everyone to only enter once please.
|
n/a | Stunna | June 05, 2013, 01:19:38 AM |
|
|
|
PrimeDice.com | The New Way to Roll | 1% House | Instant Betting Gambling
Quote from: dabsStunna, at what point can I be considered a top player? My maxim…
|
n/a | Stunna | June 05, 2013, 12:29:06 AM |
Jump to: