Topic: Americans will burn in hell for eternity - page 4. (Read 3859 times)
I believe there is need for hell reorientation, that is proper understanding of the word hell fire... How beit, human history has it in all cultures and civilization a name for certain level of inhuman operations, evil and devilish to what can also be call a anihuman acts. This being true, then the belief of eternity cannot be far from truth and cannot be underemphasized... Just as there's devil incarnate in Asia, so it is in America, Africa, Europe etc and there are also angles
Many Americans have committed no evil at all and are just regular people trying to enjoy their lives the best they can with their given circumstances.
This is the case with most of the societies. But the societies are not ruled by these people. People who make the decisions are the one ruling the society and they are the one responsible for all the actions, but the regular poeple who just want to enjoy their lives also share some responsibility for not stopping those who are incharge. Afterall the ones who rule are elected by these regular people.Well, in the case of the United States and also other western democracies, you must realize that those people who are mostly innocent of the policies of those countries are trapped in some kind of political/power monopoly which do not allow them to get better leaders who would not commit evil and attack other countries for the sake of the pursue of power or territory. The case of the United States is the most obvious and the easier to understand. The people from the USA are trapped between the Democrat and Republican party, those who are disappointed with the Democrats go and vote for Republicans, those who are disappointed with the Republican go and vote for Democrats. If there is a group of people who is considering not to vote or do it for an independent they are called out to vote for one of the two hegemonic parties.
The media is controled by people with strong ties to both Democrats and Republicans, they ignore other parties in purpose so they won't catch voters and make them weaker against their long-standing political rivals.
In that system like that, there is not much the average people can do in order to change the quality of the president, the representatives or the members of the Senate. Any alternative beyond voting would be considered to be an act of rebelition or against the State.
Many Americans have committed no evil at all and are just regular people trying to enjoy their lives the best they can with their given circumstances.
This is the case with most of the societies. But the societies are not ruled by these people. People who make the decisions are the one ruling the society and they are the one responsible for all the actions, but the regular poeple who just want to enjoy their lives also share some responsibility for not stopping those who are incharge. Afterall the ones who rule are elected by these regular people. It is very wrong to generalize issues. There are terrible and wicked people everywhere in the world, it is not just peculiar to Americans.
I don't the rationale behind such generalization, and I strongly condemn it in all its entirety.
I don't the rationale behind such generalization, and I strongly condemn it in all its entirety.
That is obvious, there is bad people and evil in all countries around the planet, regardless of the culture and society. Some countries have more problems than others, but all of them have them.
Though, even though you have a fair point and I also agree with your point of view, you need to realize we are living through very scary times and times where many people are paying attention to geopolitics and inner politics within the United States.
Most of the conflicts around the planet which are going on right now as we speak have something to do with a single country in common, that being the United States of America, statistically there will be many on the internet who disagree with the position of USA in those conflicts and also they will criticize the American citizens (all of them) because of the way they have reacted to those conflicts or not reacted.
In the eyes of many pro-Palistine people in the world, the USA is supposed to be flooded with massive civilian protests.
I understand your point. Well, I don't know how true statistically that America have a thing or two to do with many of the world conflict. Even though this is true, it is still wrong for any one to now generalize that Americans are bad people.
I am not an American and I do not hold brief for them, but I still believe that despite what is happening, not all Americans are in support of the actions and inactions of their government.
Both of the major happenings now are the conflict in Ukraine and the conflict on the middle east. In both of them the United States of America has direct intervention in funding and logistical support to Ukraine and Israel. That is something which cannot be denied, obviously. The support given to them is public.
On the other hand, many foreigners have noticed or are aware much of the funding to those conflicts come directly from the taxpayers of the United States, which are all citizens.
The logic behind all of it by people who is against the USA is that anyone who pays taxes is indirectly responsible for the destruction and chaos going on in both eastern Europe and the middle east.
It may be unreasonable, but that is what they think.
Oh, I get it.
Yeah it is true and also public knowledge that America Government has been send ammunitions to Ukraine, I am also ure there are other countries doing same.
And it is also true that the government uses tax payers money to acquire these ammunitions. And like you said, it will be unreasonable to blame tax payers for paying taxes uses to support their ally in conflicts.
It would be ideal if there was some system put in place for taxpayers in the United States or in any other country where taxes are an important part of the states revenue, so each person who pays taxes can decide what the government is allowed to do with their contribution. It would be a simple enough system. Each time each person fill their tax papers they would be require to also fill an additional documents where they would express which their personal priorities are for the government to spend their money on.
It would allow people not to directly fund the purchase and manufacturing of bombs, ammunition and tanks to be used in a war they do not agree with. Though, it is quite obvious a powerful government like that one in the United States would never give that power back directly to their citizens, the representatives are for now the holders of that power, not the power who chose them or the people who actually out the money in the table.
It is quite curious how lawmakers in Washington are so eager to approve finds to continue wars away from their country, but do not seem to be that eager when comes to preventing school massacres and providing healthcare to their population.
Yeah. That would have been a wonderful idea. Bit I doubt if that would be possible. It is mind bugling to even imagine the enormous sum of money being budgeted for wars outside your shores. I really wish tax payers can dictate where their monies go into, maybe these wastes would have been minimised.
It is very wrong to generalize issues. There are terrible and wicked people everywhere in the world, it is not just peculiar to Americans.
I don't the rationale behind such generalization, and I strongly condemn it in all its entirety.
I don't the rationale behind such generalization, and I strongly condemn it in all its entirety.
That is obvious, there is bad people and evil in all countries around the planet, regardless of the culture and society. Some countries have more problems than others, but all of them have them.
Though, even though you have a fair point and I also agree with your point of view, you need to realize we are living through very scary times and times where many people are paying attention to geopolitics and inner politics within the United States.
Most of the conflicts around the planet which are going on right now as we speak have something to do with a single country in common, that being the United States of America, statistically there will be many on the internet who disagree with the position of USA in those conflicts and also they will criticize the American citizens (all of them) because of the way they have reacted to those conflicts or not reacted.
In the eyes of many pro-Palistine people in the world, the USA is supposed to be flooded with massive civilian protests.
I understand your point. Well, I don't know how true statistically that America have a thing or two to do with many of the world conflict. Even though this is true, it is still wrong for any one to now generalize that Americans are bad people.
I am not an American and I do not hold brief for them, but I still believe that despite what is happening, not all Americans are in support of the actions and inactions of their government.
Both of the major happenings now are the conflict in Ukraine and the conflict on the middle east. In both of them the United States of America has direct intervention in funding and logistical support to Ukraine and Israel. That is something which cannot be denied, obviously. The support given to them is public.
On the other hand, many foreigners have noticed or are aware much of the funding to those conflicts come directly from the taxpayers of the United States, which are all citizens.
The logic behind all of it by people who is against the USA is that anyone who pays taxes is indirectly responsible for the destruction and chaos going on in both eastern Europe and the middle east.
It may be unreasonable, but that is what they think.
Oh, I get it.
Yeah it is true and also public knowledge that America Government has been send ammunitions to Ukraine, I am also ure there are other countries doing same.
And it is also true that the government uses tax payers money to acquire these ammunitions. And like you said, it will be unreasonable to blame tax payers for paying taxes uses to support their ally in conflicts.
It would be ideal if there was some system put in place for taxpayers in the United States or in any other country where taxes are an important part of the states revenue, so each person who pays taxes can decide what the government is allowed to do with their contribution. It would be a simple enough system. Each time each person fill their tax papers they would be require to also fill an additional documents where they would express which their personal priorities are for the government to spend their money on.
It would allow people not to directly fund the purchase and manufacturing of bombs, ammunition and tanks to be used in a war they do not agree with. Though, it is quite obvious a powerful government like that one in the United States would never give that power back directly to their citizens, the representatives are for now the holders of that power, not the power who chose them or the people who actually out the money in the table.
It is quite curious how lawmakers in Washington are so eager to approve finds to continue wars away from their country, but do not seem to be that eager when comes to preventing school massacres and providing healthcare to their population.
It is very wrong to generalize issues. There are terrible and wicked people everywhere in the world, it is not just peculiar to Americans.
I don't the rationale behind such generalization, and I strongly condemn it in all its entirety.
I don't the rationale behind such generalization, and I strongly condemn it in all its entirety.
That is obvious, there is bad people and evil in all countries around the planet, regardless of the culture and society. Some countries have more problems than others, but all of them have them.
Though, even though you have a fair point and I also agree with your point of view, you need to realize we are living through very scary times and times where many people are paying attention to geopolitics and inner politics within the United States.
Most of the conflicts around the planet which are going on right now as we speak have something to do with a single country in common, that being the United States of America, statistically there will be many on the internet who disagree with the position of USA in those conflicts and also they will criticize the American citizens (all of them) because of the way they have reacted to those conflicts or not reacted.
In the eyes of many pro-Palistine people in the world, the USA is supposed to be flooded with massive civilian protests.
I understand your point. Well, I don't know how true statistically that America have a thing or two to do with many of the world conflict. Even though this is true, it is still wrong for any one to now generalize that Americans are bad people.
I am not an American and I do not hold brief for them, but I still believe that despite what is happening, not all Americans are in support of the actions and inactions of their government.
Both of the major happenings now are the conflict in Ukraine and the conflict on the middle east. In both of them the United States of America has direct intervention in funding and logistical support to Ukraine and Israel. That is something which cannot be denied, obviously. The support given to them is public.
On the other hand, many foreigners have noticed or are aware much of the funding to those conflicts come directly from the taxpayers of the United States, which are all citizens.
The logic behind all of it by people who is against the USA is that anyone who pays taxes is indirectly responsible for the destruction and chaos going on in both eastern Europe and the middle east.
It may be unreasonable, but that is what they think.
Oh, I get it.
Yeah it is true and also public knowledge that America Government has been send ammunitions to Ukraine, I am also ure there are other countries doing same.
And it is also true that the government uses tax payers money to acquire these ammunitions. And like you said, it will be unreasonable to blame tax payers for paying taxes uses to support their ally in conflicts.
It is very wrong to generalize issues. There are terrible and wicked people everywhere in the world, it is not just peculiar to Americans.
I don't the rationale behind such generalization, and I strongly condemn it in all its entirety.
I don't the rationale behind such generalization, and I strongly condemn it in all its entirety.
That is obvious, there is bad people and evil in all countries around the planet, regardless of the culture and society. Some countries have more problems than others, but all of them have them.
Though, even though you have a fair point and I also agree with your point of view, you need to realize we are living through very scary times and times where many people are paying attention to geopolitics and inner politics within the United States.
Most of the conflicts around the planet which are going on right now as we speak have something to do with a single country in common, that being the United States of America, statistically there will be many on the internet who disagree with the position of USA in those conflicts and also they will criticize the American citizens (all of them) because of the way they have reacted to those conflicts or not reacted.
In the eyes of many pro-Palistine people in the world, the USA is supposed to be flooded with massive civilian protests.
I understand your point. Well, I don't know how true statistically that America have a thing or two to do with many of the world conflict. Even though this is true, it is still wrong for any one to now generalize that Americans are bad people.
I am not an American and I do not hold brief for them, but I still believe that despite what is happening, not all Americans are in support of the actions and inactions of their government.
Both of the major happenings now are the conflict in Ukraine and the conflict on the middle east. In both of them the United States of America has direct intervention in funding and logistical support to Ukraine and Israel. That is something which cannot be denied, obviously. The support given to them is public.
On the other hand, many foreigners have noticed or are aware much of the funding to those conflicts come directly from the taxpayers of the United States, which are all citizens.
The logic behind all of it by people who is against the USA is that anyone who pays taxes is indirectly responsible for the destruction and chaos going on in both eastern Europe and the middle east.
It may be unreasonable, but that is what they think.
It is very wrong to generalize issues. There are terrible and wicked people everywhere in the world, it is not just peculiar to Americans.
I don't the rationale behind such generalization, and I strongly condemn it in all its entirety.
I don't the rationale behind such generalization, and I strongly condemn it in all its entirety.
That is obvious, there is bad people and evil in all countries around the planet, regardless of the culture and society. Some countries have more problems than others, but all of them have them.
Though, even though you have a fair point and I also agree with your point of view, you need to realize we are living through very scary times and times where many people are paying attention to geopolitics and inner politics within the United States.
Most of the conflicts around the planet which are going on right now as we speak have something to do with a single country in common, that being the United States of America, statistically there will be many on the internet who disagree with the position of USA in those conflicts and also they will criticize the American citizens (all of them) because of the way they have reacted to those conflicts or not reacted.
In the eyes of many pro-Palistine people in the world, the USA is supposed to be flooded with massive civilian protests.
I understand your point. Well, I don't know how true statistically that America have a thing or two to do with many of the world conflict. Even though this is true, it is still wrong for any one to now generalize that Americans are bad people.
I am not an American and I do not hold brief for them, but I still believe that despite what is happening, not all Americans are in support of the actions and inactions of their government.
It is very wrong to generalize issues. There are terrible and wicked people everywhere in the world, it is not just peculiar to Americans.
I don't the rationale behind such generalization, and I strongly condemn it in all its entirety.
I don't the rationale behind such generalization, and I strongly condemn it in all its entirety.
That is obvious, there is bad people and evil in all countries around the planet, regardless of the culture and society. Some countries have more problems than others, but all of them have them.
Though, even though you have a fair point and I also agree with your point of view, you need to realize we are living through very scary times and times where many people are paying attention to geopolitics and inner politics within the United States.
Most of the conflicts around the planet which are going on right now as we speak have something to do with a single country in common, that being the United States of America, statistically there will be many on the internet who disagree with the position of USA in those conflicts and also they will criticize the American citizens (all of them) because of the way they have reacted to those conflicts or not reacted.
In the eyes of many pro-Palistine people in the world, the USA is supposed to be flooded with massive civilian protests.
I have bad news for you. That thing you call hell does not exist.
that would be GOOD news. would it not? very good news. America as a country had committed the same sin other countries are commiting so that does not make any difference because everybody that sins would surely go to hell but there are people that believe that he'll does not exist. Everyone has there own believe and until we are dead before we know the actual truth.
It is very wrong to generalize issues. There are terrible and wicked people everywhere in the world, it is not just peculiar to Americans.
I don't the rationale behind such generalization, and I strongly condemn it in all its entirety.
I don't the rationale behind such generalization, and I strongly condemn it in all its entirety.
There even more uncanny coincidences in other old media. It is very weird, to be honest. It would seem that reality imitates art and is not the art which imitates life.
What do you personally think of those media which seemed to predict such a big tragedy to the American people? Do you believe is there a logical explanation to it or it was just part of the popular culture back then to comically destroy those towers in works of fiction?
That could be a logical and credible explanation, like something like a running gag or joke going through several generations of comic artists and witters.
I would need to ask someone from the United States about it and has some knowledge about comics. The other explanation obviously enters the realm of conspiracies, which we all know about, though, the point of a conspiracy is to remain secret, what would anyone involved get from secretly advertise their plans like this?
9 current, former California police charged in corruption case
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-08-18/la-me-police-charged-bay-area
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-08-18/la-me-police-charged-bay-area
York Fire in Nevada and California spawns 'fire whirls'
https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/01/us/york-fire-california-nevada-fire-whirls/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/01/us/york-fire-california-nevada-fire-whirls/index.html
all this coming from someone that listens and prays to a pedophile.
I have bad news for you. That thing you call hell does not exist.
that would be GOOD news. would it not? very good news. 
What has the people of the U.S don to you to deserve such an attack from you? Mind you there is never a time anyone will burn in a place call hell because it doesn’t exist. No nation on earth is without atrocities but calling out the people of U.S for whatever reason you think is justifiable is not ideal. Allow God to decide the fate of people or are you deputizing the creator of mankind?
In the end, we need to learn how to differentiate from the government which people is living under from the people themselves, there will always be good and bad people in any country, does not matter whether we talk about the USA, the Vatican City, Malasia, etc. agreed most citizens are aware of what’s wrong with their country but since the ones in position have done nothing but make the system worse, the entire country is now perceived as evil or some sort
maybe this ideology is coming from americans’ very strong patriotism and sense of superiority that a lot (not everyone) has
Wow i am just surprised by the level of some dudes thinking how can you come up with such words generalizing it to the whole people of the country, this looks childish and I feel it's is a hate speech against Americans.
What has the people of the U.S don to you to deserve such an attack from you? Mind you there is never a time anyone will burn in a place call hell because it doesn’t exist. No nation on earth is without atrocities but calling out the people of U.S for whatever reason you think is justifiable is not ideal. Allow God to decide the fate of people or are you deputizing the creator of mankind?
No need to argue with OP, he has become an inactive member of this forum, so it is very unlikely he will even read your message in a while.
I agree with you though, obviously he has some bias against the people from the United States. It is nothing new to see ant¿ti/Americanism on the internet and in countries which alleged adversaries of the USA.
In the end, we need to learn how to differentiate from the government which people is living under from the people themselves, there will always be good and bad people in any country, does not matter whether we talk about the USA, the Vatican City, Malasia, etc.
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