Topic: Casinos not asking for KYC to register and play, but do require it to withdraw (Read 9052 times)

My concern is not that the gambler does not have the required documents for KYC but the issue is that even if he has the required documentation for the KYC, the gambling sites may still not accept the KYC if the withdrawal amount is big and they do not want that the gambler becomes eligible for a withdraw.

There are a lot of complications in case you do not want do the KYC initially. I think one should read the terms and conditions first and if there is a KYC requirement at any stage, better do it on the first stage and avoid any problems later. If you do not want to do the KYC, better play at KYC free casino that will not ask for KYC even at the time of withdrawal.

I guess this is it, you are complely right with all that you have said, most especially, your closing remark, so much agree with that.
I've never come across this casino, but already, everything about the is screaming scam, scam, and more scam.

It is totally wrong and unethical to allow potential users to freely register on your casino, and even deposit money and gamble, then turn around to demand full kyc verification from same user upon them requesting a withdrawal of funds, and I guess the big question would be, what then happens if the users is unable to complete the kyc verification process for one reason or the other? Maybe due to the user not having the requested document and so on.
This casino is scammy and I personally feel that their license be revoked, this is if they are even registered.

Might be unfair but if they aren't violating the law then they can legally operate and your complain is nothing. I guess that's just the norms now, even the most popular casinos now doesn't require KYC document right away, they just let your plan, on my part,  I have this casino that I have been using for years now and still my account is KYC free, and mind you, this casino is regulated so it's not really a must for them.

AFAIK, they can initiate that casino if they want to, so if we understand responsible gambling, maybe that's part of it to ensure that we don't break any of their TOS, so we won't face problem in the future, especially when we are winning.

Well, let me take the remark that the casino has the right to demand of you to complete the KYC again as a mistake because, at times, we may not be sensitive to the overbearing nature of these casinos, and this makes us cheat ourselves. Fine, they may ask you to complete the KYC again due to one reason or the other, but is the reason genuine and is the motive right? That's the first thing we should look at here. However, that "right" context is too much power-inclined in my opinion. The reason they often get away with this is because no one has sued them about it, at least, it is not popular if such has happened. We have our rights as well, only that things like this are often overlooked by gamblers.

If sued, the court may overturn their demand and let you withdraw your money from them, so it is not about one "right", it is just because they have that "Power" which you mistake for the "Right." Fine, they can ask you for additional documents as well, that's a better bargain, but still, all these show the excesses and misrepresentation of casinos in my opinion. I tell you, asking for videos, for instance, is just nonsense to me. What if a look-alike did the video? In my family, my brothers may do this for me and nothing will happen. This is why I do not like the idea from the beginning, it has never been a very good way to verify, only that some companies like to make life miserable for their customers for some ulterior reasons, rather than genuine.

do you know when Casino have the authority to ask you story update your document for kyc upload or verification it is when the document is not authentic or there is a error somewhere in your document so they will need you to reverify your document so if they do so there are absolutely right because many people use a fake document to verify their casino account based on they have the mindset of scam in them and that is why they refer to use their original and the official document verified casino account so I'm not against them in such art but I know where casino used to do wrong which every person have it own observation

It is very obvious that this asymmetric treatment of entry and exit is not casual but rather by design and at this point I wonder if these casinos could not be accused of having money that is illegal, that is, you do not allow withdrawal without identification but they are keeping that cash themselves so, if the money is not legal, they are holding illegal money.

Even though you have done with the KYC verification, the casino has the right and its legal for them to ask their players to do KYC again.
So, do not think that after done with the KYC, your account has been whitelisted by the casino.
And the initial KYC is just a basic KYC, you will not be asked to submit source of income/proof of income, video calls, utility bills, etc.

Also, not all casinos that do not provide KYC features or refuse to accept KYC at the beginning are a bad casino. It could be just their marketing tricks to attract new customers.

every casino platform once their customers to verify before the participate in their platform or deposit any font in their platform except it is the platform of Casino that have the mindset of scamming that we hide their kyc for their customers so it is good for a customer itself to ask for kyc before the person deposit any money in the platform of a casino website because if you have not done your kyc at the certain point a platform of casino might withheld  you not to withdraw, so basically I know that casino platform work according to their rules and regulations.

If you are preaching fairness, you might preach from now till eternity and nothing will happen and once the law of the land is backing them up, you have no say here. This is why we should be conversant with the happening around the business we do, and even if we can't read all the terms and conditions, we should endeavour to read the important parts that are crucial to our immediate dealings with the casinos. And as long as a casino is not preaching no-KYC, they have every right to ask you for the KYC completion at any time. It is we customers who should try to be up and doing and expect it at any time if we can't do it from the beginning.

No one will pretend that the KYC is not supposed to be done, and whether they ask for it in the beginning, middle or at the end of our plays and transactions, it does not matter. What matters is for us to make sure that we do it since that's the standard procedure while dealing with duly registered casinos. So, instead of preaching fairness, we should stop being too smart in our ways to be playing too relaxed with good casinos, such gamblers should be blamed and not the casinos when they eventually ask. Even if you are not sure of the casino, why not ask them directly if they will ask you for the KYC completion or not so that you know whether to leave or continue playing with them or find time to complete the KYC earlier instead of crying foul later?

As long as we do things well and without harming anyone it is better, and if we are aware that we are not doing anything wrong then there is no reason to forget anything about the partner, also if we start to see if a partner is not accompanying us in In good times and in bad times, the least we have to do to reward him is to give him his position in that sense, to tell him something so important, the casino is not a good activity, we cannot allow people to think that, it is something normal, it is fun and it is something that we should always consider doing healthily if we are mature in it, our partner must understand us, in my personal case my wife tells me to bet to see if we win something more.

We will need to understand their own side of view as well because all that matters here is just a business strategy and nothing more, the gambling platforms will prefer seeing that they allow gamblers have the first encounter with their platform and finds it easy to bet without having challenges in doing that, then to later request for kyc in which can be the only reason they can use to hold customers down to their platform for the sake of those that wont be able to provide the requirements for it.

This do only happen with those scammy sites out there and pretty sure that once a certain person/gambler would really be able to experience this shit condition then it would really be spreading like wildfire
on where platforms/companies wouldnt really be liking that if they are really that running a legit business but if its a scam then it would be surely busted sooner or later. Yes, its written on the terms and conditions but we know that things that stated there could really be changed up and this is something that we should really be thinking into or something that we would really be aware.

In overall, you would really be able to avoid all of these possible experiences if you are really just that simply sticking with the current best and known in the market and dont tend to touch up new platforms
or into those who arent that much popular. Who would really be making up such consideration? I would definitely be sticking into those places on which you do saw that it do gives out that
kind of confidence and worry free.

If KYC is must, I think they mustn't allow users play/use their casino until they fill their details and get accepted rather than let them deposit and play from the very beginning. It may be somewhere in TOS but letting them play/deposit but deny withdrawal asking KYC is totally unfair and somewhat scam/cheating. Then it will be like one way door. One can enter but can't exit.

For sure people will understand if you didn't hide anything from her and try to tell those activities that you have done so she will not get surprised to see you participating on any of that activities. Then leave some statement that you are just enjoying yourself with those game you play and give a assurance there's nothing bad will happen to you while participating on those gambling activities. A proper discussion will result to any positive approach so don't hide anything and just be open to your partner about what you are doing.


Well if they make all things complicated to their players then I guess they will be out of the business soon as their players will not go back to them especially if they implement something that can make their life so hard for getting their funds. What they did is somehow not a good action or decision since for not accepting drivers license for sure there will be a lot of people will get disappointed with that and some may think that it seems like they don't want their players to withdraw their money on their casino.

This is absolutely nothing to be surprised about, don't talk as if this is just starting now, things like this have been from a very long time, most casinos, especially the smaller ones won't hesitate to look for every means possible to frustrate any of their players who manages to win a fraction of what they have in previous times; lost to the casino back, it's no news that the management of some casinos are so damn greedy that all they wanna just see is people losing their money to them and they eat and grow fat.

This is not peculiar to bc.game though, it's something is general with most casino, for some users, they can win and withdraw easily, that means they are in luck all round, but for others, they have to pass through such frustration from the casino before they get their money out, if actually the casino doesnt end up scamming the player off his or her hard winnings in the disguise that the user was not able to provide the exact personal document they(the casino) requested or asked for, very pathetic.

And I think to be on the safer side while dealing with all this online activities, I think it's best for people to have all this forms of documents ready for whenever any will be needed, that is, having the drivers license, the national ID card, the passport, and what ever type of documents casinos are likely to ask for, have them ready for times when they go crazy with kyc.

Most time it is casino with KYC. For me it is not a problem, but lots of gamblers here don`t like it. But you are right - well known casinos rare has such problems.

Yep, they have such opportunity and it can`t be called cheating due to the ToS. But when we see how casino uses it - it is about cheating.



Few weeks ago i`ve got interesting situation. I won big prize with the odd about 7.5 and was KYCed. I proved myself and as the result the casino just returned me my bet, because "they don`t sure that it wasn`t inside information".

It's very nice that your girlfriend understands you in your activities, and even if she doesn't understand you, I think you should always maintain your position , because that's the only thing that makes us more affable, when I'm not talking about playing I say it, I don't really care who approves it and who doesn't, honestly that doesn't matter to me first because you spend it and second because it is with my money that I play, no one tells me, it takes 500usd to Spend Nobody in the casino, but things should always be like this, maybe people see gambling as a bad habit, but what does it matter ? What matters , what matters is that one as a person is happy, as long as one does not Generate bad things towards Others around us.

Another case of a casino asking for KYC before you can withdraw: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5494948.0;all

What's happening in casinos now? Bc.game no longer accepts Driver's licenses and Postal IDs as valid documents for KYC verification. It used to be okay; they accepted those before, but now they don't. The player who's complaining has been a long-time player of bc.game, but now that they've won a large sum of money, they're being asked for other documents like a passport for verification.

This is the pattern many casinos use to deceive their players and we should not be surprised about that. They will start it like KYC is never necessary to play bet on their casino but one would be surprised to see that KYC actually necessary when you want to make withdrawals. Sometimes when a Casino notices that a new player had a huge winning, they would they many attempt to ask for documents that would be very hard to get or submit by the user. Although not all casinos behaves like this but one need to be conscious on this kind it trick that is being exhibited by bad casinos.

There are many cases regarding this with now we can't run from this as well because things are getting the worst day by day with the centralized casino can ask anytime about anything and if you are fail to provide this all surely you are going to be in trouble with your wins I already have membership of few casinos and mostly are doing things like these while members are having big wins as they are saying they need to provide this all to provides without these things now gaming is going to be ended for the peoples those are looking for the casinos which have no KYC rules.
Still they are not considering this as cheating because they are also having pressure about many things, and they want to stay in market with their value and all rules which are set by the authorities.